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Andrew Bostom reports at his blog:
An open letter calling for “dialogue” was introduced this Monday, February 25, 2008, by Tariq Ramadan, ballyhooed by its promoters in grandiose terms as the “World’s First Cross-Denominational Statement from Muslims to Jews.” A press release sent to me directly by one of the Muslim organizers of the initiative, Dr. Akbar Ahmed, touted two Jewish leaders, Rabbi David Rosen, “International President, Religions for Peace and Advisor on Interfaith Relations to the Chief Rabbinate of Israel,” and Rabbi Danny Rich, described as “Director of Liberal Judaism,” who had quickly endorsed the statement.Rabbis Rosen and Rich should disavow their naïve endorsements because support for this initiative, as framed in the letter, is an egregious error.
Find out why at Andy's site. Here is just one part:
Salient examples of Jew hatred from these foundational Islamic sources, ignored, conveniently by the Muslim authors of the “Call to Peace, Dialogue, and Understanding”, include:· How as a central anti-Jewish motif, the Koran decrees an eternal curse upon the Jews (Koran 2:61/ 3:112) for slaying the prophets and transgressing against the will of Allah. This motif is coupled to Koranic verses 5:60 and 5:78 which describe the Jews transformation into apes and swine (5:60), having been “…cursed by the tongue of David, and Jesus, Mary’s son” (5:78). The related verse, 5:64, accuses the Jews—as Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas did in a January 2007 speech, citing Koran 5:64—of being “spreaders of war and corruption,” a sort of ancient Koranic antecedent of The Protocols of the Elders of Zion. The Koranic curse (verses 2:61/3:112) upon the Jews for (primarily) rejecting, even slaying Allah’s prophets, including Isa/Jesus (or at least his “body double”), is updated with perfect archetypal logic in the canonical hadith: following the Muslims’ initial conquest of the Jewish farming oasis of Khaybar, one of the vanquished Jewesses reportedly served Muhammad poisoned mutton (or goat), which resulted, ultimately, in his protracted, agonizing death. And Ibn Saad’s sira account maintains that Muhammad’s poisoning resulted from a well-coordinated Jewish conspiracy
· How the Koran’s overall discussion of the Jews is marked by a litany of their sins and punishments, as if part of a divine indictment, conviction, and punishment process. Specifically—the Jews wronged themselves (16:118) by losing faith (7:168) and breaking their covenant (5:13). The Jews (echoing an ante-Nicaean, Marcionite polemic) are a nation that has passed away (2:134; repeated in 2:141). Twice Allah sent his instruments (the Assyrians/or Babylonians, and Romans) to punish this perverse people (17:4-5)—their dispersal over the earth is proof of Allah’s rejection (7:168). The Jews are further warned about both their arrogant claim that they remain Allah’s chosen people (62:6), and continued disobedience and “corruption” (5:32-33) Other sins, some repeated, are enumerated: abuse, even killing of prophets (4:155; 2:91), including Isa [Jesus] (3:55; 4:157), is a consistent theme. The Jews ridiculed Muhammad as Ra’ina (the evil one, in 2:104; 4:46), and they are also accused of lack of faith, taking words out of context, disobedience, and distortion (4:46). Precious few of them are believers (also 4:46). These “perverse” creatures also claim that Ezra is the messiah and they worship rabbis who defraud men of their possessions (9:30). Additional sins are described: the Jews are typified as an “envious” people (2:109), whose hearts are as hardened as rocks (2:74). They are further accused of confounding the truth (2:42), deliberately perverting scripture (2:75), and being liars (2:78). Ill-informed people of little faith (2:89), they pursue vague and wishful fancies (2:111). Other sins have contributed to their being stamped (see 2:61/ 3:112 above) with “wretchedness /abasement and humiliation,” including—usury (2:275), sorcery (2:102), hedonism (2:96), and idol worship (2:53). More (and repeat) sins, are described still: the Jews’ idol worship is again mentioned (4:51), then linked and followed by charges of other (often repeat) iniquities—the “tremendous calumny” against Mary (4:156), as well as usury and cheating (4:161). Most Jews are accused of being “evil-livers” /“transgressors” /“ungodly” (3:110), who, deceived by their own lies (3:24), try to turn Muslims from Islam (3:99). Jews are blind and deaf to the truth (5:71), and what they have not forgotten they have perverted—they mislead (3:69), confound the truth (3:71), twist tongues (3:79), and cheat Gentiles without remorse (3:75). Muslims are advised not to take the Jews as friends (5:51), and to beware of the inveterate hatred that Jews bear towards them (5:82).
· How the Jews’ ultimate sins and punishments are made clear in the Koran—they are the devil’s minions (4:60) cursed by Allah, their faces will be obliterated (4:47), and if they do not accept the true faith of Islam—the Jews who understand their faith become Muslims (3:113)—they will be made into apes (2:65/ 7:166), or apes and swine (5:60), and burn in the Hellfires (4:55, 5:29, 98:6, and 58:14-19).
Once again, read it all.
Posted by Robert at February 27, 2008 7:27 AM
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at February 27, 2008 9:43 AM
I stumbled on this program by accident while watching a movie on another channel, and channel surfing during a commercial break. I immediately saw it as a fraud, since the dialogue was extremely over-the-top.
The bakery employee sounded like a radical leftard's caricature of an "islamophobe".
I hope the former customers in the surrounding community boycott this bakery for its complicity in this anti-American fraud.
Posted by: StephenDvd at February 27, 2008 10:06 AM
Interestingly the "moderate, balanced and civilized" taquia-in-chief tariq did not appear to sign even the "common word" deception of 138 "islamic scholars". Now suddenly he is jewish-friendly? Yeah right!
Posted by: Excommie at February 27, 2008 10:22 AM
Bostom, and others, keep trying to state the obvious: that, pace Bernard Lewis, had European antisemitism in the twentieth century never existed, Islamic antisemitism -- that is, a special hostility reserved for Jews within the wider anti-Infidel hatreds inculcated by the texts of Islam -- would still exist. Some people have a great deal of difficulty in even beginning to think about this calmly. First, they appear to believe that there is only one kind of antisemitism, and anything that does not look exactly like the variety, in Europe, with different wellsprings, cannot therefore be described as "antisemitism." But there is not one antisemitism, but rather two: that which is to be found to be an outgrowth of early Christian efforts to distinguish Christianity, among its potential pool of earliest adherents, Jews, as superior to the Judaism that was already available to them (in other words, it was like IBM badmouthing Apple -- you don't win converts to Christianity by telling them how wonderful Judaism is), and, over time, the attack on Judaism intermingled with the desire to present a history that diminished the role of the Romans and ascribed a collective guilt to "the Jews" for the death of Jesus, while Herod and other Romans retreated from view. Over time, with a little help from a few passages in the Gospel of John, antisemitism in Western Christendom became established, not unmmixed, of course, with the usual promptings -- the desire, for example, of assorted kings or nobles to help themselves to the possessions of Jews, those killed, or those forced to leave, whether from England (1297), or France (1396), or Spain (1492), and provided with ideological justification.
Islamic antisemitism is not rooted in the same theme of "Christ-killing." But the Jews have been depicted as the enemies of Muhammad, and of Islam, and even accused of being responsible for Muhammad's death. It is a different, but a parallel, tradition. They rejected not Allah, but Allah's Messenger. And many of the most important events in the life of Muhammad, the ones which to us show him at his worst, involve attacks on Jews: the Banu Qurayza, the Khaybar Oasis, and the assassination of a 90-year-old Jewish man.
Posted by: Hugh at February 27, 2008 10:29 AM
I was waiting for this and it is getting boring.
Rules of Propaganda
1. The rule of simplification: recduce all data to simple confrontation between "good & bad", "friend & foe".
2. The rule of disfiguration: discreding the opposition by crude smears & parodies.
3. The rule of transfusion: manipulating the consensus values of the target audience for one's own ends.
4. The rule of unanimity: presenting one's viewpoint as if it were the unanimous opinion of all right thinking people: drawing the doubting individual into agreement by the appeal of star-performers, by social pressure and by "psychological contagion"
5. The rule of orchestration: endlessly repeating the same messages in different variations and combinations.
(Dr) Goebbels
One of the more insidious forms of propaganda, however is that where the true sources of information are hidden (or ignored) from the recipients and propagators alike. This genre of so-called "covertly directed propaganda" aims to mobilise a network of unsuspecting "agents of influence" who pass on the messages as if they were acting spontaneously. By feigning a coincidence of views with those of the target society, which (that) it seeks to subvert. By pandering to the proclivities of key individuals, it can suborn a dominant élite of opinion makers by stealth.
Posted by: ericthekuffar at February 27, 2008 10:38 AM
"Make friends with neither Christians nor Jews"--al-lah, the Kuran.
This doesn't leave many possibilities open for "interfaith dialogues" now does it??? (No).
Posted by: pythagoras at February 27, 2008 9:55 PM
Translation:
Sit still so we can behead you, you bugger!
Posted by: profitsbeard at February 28, 2008 12:03 AM
Hugh articulates good distinctions between Western and Islamic anti-Semitisms. However, this one statement is simply incorrect:
That in Islamic tradition, part of the reason Jews were hated was because -- "They rejected not Allah, but Allah's Messenger."
Actually, the Koran foments both (see, e.g., 5:70-71): The Koran and Sunnah has it that Jews rejected Allah long before Mohammed was born (since in Islam, the God of the Old and New Testaments was Allah, however much the Jewish and Christian writers of those texts had willfully and perversely tried to obscure that truth): the entire history of the Chosen People, as expropriated by the writer(s) of the Koran and thereby perverted, recounts how Adam through to Noah then Abraham right up to Issa (Jesus) were (among a few others) a special Elect who did not follow the large majority of corrupt, ignorant and wicked Jews who in various ways rejected Allah's "Guidance".
Posted by: cantor at February 28, 2008 6:23 PM
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