"have both been talking to Wilders but now say his demands are "bizarre" and unacceptable."

Complete and uneditied is "bizarre" and "unacceptable"?

Posted by: Elric66 at March 6, 2008 7:49 AM

He should have told him it was about the Bible, they would have aired it.

Posted by: Elric66 at March 6, 2008 7:52 AM

Sounds like Dutch TV has a severe case of projection, no pun intended. The TV hacks are the ones who are bizarre and unacceptable as protectors of civil liberty. They should emmigrate to some place where TV is more regulated, say, Iran.

Posted by: Max Publius at March 6, 2008 8:00 AM

Obviously having your country islamified is not bizarre and perfectly acceptable!
Morons!

Posted by: Gramfan at March 6, 2008 8:05 AM

They will broadcast porn, but not this?

Posted by: GrennBeck at March 6, 2008 8:10 AM

Dutch Ambassador summoned in Pakistan.
http://kleinverzet.blogspot.com/2008/03/pakistan-summons-dutch-ambassador.html

And this OT
Woman fined for calling muslim neighbor Usama. An insult to muslims.
http://kleinverzet.blogspot.com/2008/03/woman-fined-for-naming-muslim-usama.html

Posted by: Borg at March 6, 2008 8:24 AM

"we are very concerned about inciting hate or discrimination," said Van Gelderen, the editor of the Netwerk news programme.

How absurd! The whole point that Wilders is trying to make is that the koran itself incites nothing but hatred and discrimination. Van Gelderen is a spineless and lily-livered appeaser. What a gutless place Holland has become! The Dutch will pay for this in the long term with a bloody civil war. Or slavery.

Posted by: johndoe at March 6, 2008 8:24 AM

To blame Wilders for the potential violent reactions of Islamic fanatics....as many are doing...is like someone criticising Nazi ideology in 1938 and then blaming the critic for any violent response on the part of the Nazis and castigating him for discrimination and hating Nazi beliefs and hurting Nazi feelings. To accuse Wilders of inciting hatred , when all he is doing is highlighting the obvious for the sake of freedom and equal rights,is worse than disingenuous. It's sick.

Posted by: johndoe at March 6, 2008 8:28 AM

Well, you can knock the EUro-dhimmies all you want, but apart from a few websites I haven't seen much of a spine by any networks in the US either, far from it.

In fact, 7 years after 9/11 I think the EUrabians are much closer to understanding the threat than the deliberately stoopid in the US.

Just look at yourselves:

You don't even have one single Wilders!

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at March 6, 2008 8:37 AM

ER..excuse me Sheik yer'mani.....I'm British and I live in Europe.

Posted by: johndoe at March 6, 2008 8:45 AM

Has anyone contacted any of the networks in the US to see if they will air Geert Wilder's film?

Posted by: Elric66 at March 6, 2008 8:47 AM

After the murder of Van Gogh I just can't believe the TV networks and the politicians are cowering like this. They surrender so easily, its eerie.

Maybe this banning will increase the films notoriety, as it does, after all illustrate Wilders point exactly. I mean, people will get the point surely.

Posted by: savitch at March 6, 2008 8:52 AM

The Western world is in a bind. If they refuse to air it, it proves Geert right because of the fear of airing it. If they do air it, Muslims will riot around the world over it, again proving Geert right. They might as well air it and side with freedom.

Posted by: Elric66 at March 6, 2008 8:58 AM

Very well then. Let copies circulate, and then be copied, and re-copied (here some people in China well-versed in this sort of thing may be able to lend a hidden hand). Let copies be distributed all over. Invite people over for viewings. Let there be a frisson of fear, when this is done, in what can now be called, with ever-greater accuracy, Occupied Europe. Show the film. Then talk about it. Take it in.

Others will want to up-load it at YouTube. Here, and there and everywhere. Or at sites, their own sites, or the sites of others. There will be no stopping it. And as "the movie Muslims didn't want you to see" it will be seen.

Posted by: Hugh at March 6, 2008 8:59 AM

Why can't this film be distributed on YouTube?

Posted by: LondonBorn&Bred at March 6, 2008 9:08 AM

Im sure it can be posted on YouTube but how long before YouTube bans it?

Posted by: Elric66 at March 6, 2008 9:14 AM

Johndoe,

my post was directed at our American friends, not at you...

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at March 6, 2008 9:20 AM

Why not show it in the United States? (okay, with subtitles)

When someone does not want you to see something, all the more reason to see it.

Posted by: tanstaafl at March 6, 2008 9:32 AM

tanstaafl,

I emailed all the US news agencies I could asking if they will air it. I will be surrpsied though if I get even one reply back.

Posted by: Elric66 at March 6, 2008 9:33 AM

LondonB&B,

It will be released on the internet.

There's even a dedicated site: www.fitnathemovie.com

Wilders has said that in the event he is not able to release/premier it on Dutch national TV, he will hold a press conference on or around March 28th just before releasing the film on the internet.

Posted by: Klein Verzet at March 6, 2008 9:45 AM

A disappointing but half expected effort from a profit driven self serving media. If any one need to see this short its the tv networks and the press!
Maybe then they might stop this bleeding heart Palestinian hogwash BBC world is full off today.

If they really knew about the Koran they should see they are just making themselves pawns of Islam. Maybe they would then realise they do their public a great dis-service at the moment.

And since when are the networks in the habit of not playing programs and documentary's in their unedited full form??

But I hope it gets on Youtube ASAP. Further more I recommend any poster how has enough uplink bandwith should repost it on youtube. Make it hard for them to kill it off.

As quick as they get it pulled off all and sundry just put it up again multiple times.

Posted by: sri at March 6, 2008 9:52 AM

"Just look at yourselves:You don't even have one single Wilders!"

sheik yer'mami is absolutely correct about this. America has had no comparable figure as Wilders (the equivalent would have to be a Senator or Congressman), or a Pym Fortuyn, or an Oriana Fallaci (where the equivalent would be a venerable mainstream journalist), or a Carl Hagen of Norway (head of Norway's second-largest party, the Progress Party -- Fremskrittspartiet), or even a Sarkozy saying the things he has said about Islam. Hell, even our "ultra-right extremists" don't have the anti-Islamic balls or brains of a Nick Griffin!

Posted by: cantor at March 6, 2008 10:38 AM

Elric66 - I'm keep my fingers crossed, but..................the US does allow "American Idol" on the air, so anything is possible.

Posted by: tanstaafl at March 6, 2008 10:40 AM

Cantor, I completely agree with you and the sheik. Watching Wilders speak plainly to the clueless and cowardly media, one only wishes we had a member of the U.S. Congress so straightforward. The Dutch are fortunate to have him, and I believe the majority of Dutch people know that.

Posted by: Infidel33 at March 6, 2008 10:54 AM

"I'm keep my fingers crossed, but..................the US does allow "American Idol" on the air, so anything is possible."

LOL Too true.

Posted by: Elric66 at March 6, 2008 10:59 AM

http://www.fitnathemovie.com

The youtube bypass.

Not yet released, so bookmark the site.

Infidel technology supercedes dhimmi self-censoring.

Note to the Dutch: Laat de Leeuw niet in zijn hempie staan.

(Don't leave the Lion standing in his nightshirt.)

Posted by: profitsbeard at March 6, 2008 11:33 AM

Hollywood couldn't buy this kind of publicity. Wilder's film is said to be a mere 15 minutes in length. It doesn't take a great deal of imagination to see that this film could bring a massive audience to network/cable television coffers.

Here is just a short list of articles I collected this morning -

Dutch PM asks for French help over anti-Islam film


Dutch want Geer Wilder's Movie to be broadcast regardless of consequences

Majority of Dutch Want Wilders Film Shown

The Geert Wilders effect

Cringing Dutch Eurodhimmi TV shuns Wilders' Qur'an film

Geert Wilder's Movie 'Propagates Hate'

Moderate Muslims In Denmark Rally To Protect Denmark. Demand Censorship Of Cartoons To Protect Endangered White People

Dutch want Geer Wilder's Movie to be broadcast regardless of consequences

No Retreat, No Surrender; Free Speech in Europe

Variety: Al Qaeda Takes Aim at Dutch Film-Maker; Cairo Film Fest Drops "Where is Winky's Horse"

AP: Dutch movie about Islam threatens nation

Germany shuts gallery over Muslim threats

Ministers warn Wilders about Koran film

Voters Punish CDA for Appeasement Politics over Wilders Film

'Fitna' the movie website


Dutch PM seeks French help over anti-Islam film

Wilders to show film to anti-terrorism tzar

82 Kurt Westergaards in Denmark are threatened with death


Burn Down Danish Embassies and Kidnap Danish Ambassadors to Slaughter Them at Muhammad's Tomb


Muslims also have a responsibility

Memo to Geert Wilders: Show Us the Damn Film Already

Dutch up threat level as brace for Koran Film: ANP

Palistinians call for Muslims to rise up and slaughter Danes

Professor axed over Danish cartoons


Dutch PM warns of attacks due to anti-Islam film

Dutch Government Seeking To Ban Wilders' Movie "Fitna"

Posted by: justamomof4 at March 6, 2008 11:34 AM

Just as I finished entering the list, I get this added in my e-box :

Europe Braces for Release of Film Linking Koran to Terror (CNSNews.com) – A leading U.S.-based Internet company says it’s ready for any electronic attacks that may come its way for hosting a Web site featuring a provocative short film critical of the Koran. The soon-to-be-released movie has sparked protests in the Islamic world and concerns in Europe...

There is a great deal of pre-release publicity for Geert Wilder's short film to be taken advantage of. Hello, msm . . .pay attention!

Posted by: justamomof4 at March 6, 2008 11:54 AM

It is the glory of our age that we live in times of transparency and the net. At least the days when this news could go undisseminated are over and those of us who don't wish to live under the "Law of the Prophet" can escape it through the internet and online videos...

Posted by: A Simple Sinner at March 6, 2008 12:51 PM

If it's over 10 minutes, may not make sense having it as a 2 part series on Youtube, but why not put it on Google video, Geert's own website (that's bound to guarantee him maximized hits, and improve his ad revenue) and other places that host videos, including hotair, here, historyofjihad, faithfreedom.org, islam-watch and any others.

Posted by: Infidel Pride at March 6, 2008 1:05 PM

If it's over 10 minutes, may not make sense having it as a 2 part series on Youtube, but why not put it on Google video, Geert's own website (that's bound to guarantee him maximized hits, and improve his ad revenue) and other places that host videos, including hotair, here, historyofjihad, faithfreedom.org, islam-watch and any others.

Posted by: Infidel Pride at March 6, 2008 1:05 PM

Did they actually show the film Submission on TV? Anywhere?

How many people do you personally know that saw it?

For all the hoopla on talk radio and the internet, I don't know anyone personally who watched it. Even though I told everyone I know to watch it.

Same for What The West Needs To Know.

I think it will be the same with this.

The muslims rage, but the west ignores the movie.

Posted by: Borg at March 6, 2008 1:09 PM

sheik yer'mami said

You don't even have one single Wilders!

We may not have any Wilders here in the U.S., but we're bursting at the seams with Van Gelderens.

The Netherlands are much closer to the critical tipping point than we are in the U.S. It is bringing out the best (Theo Van Gogh, Geert Wilders), and the worst (Van Gelderen, Jan Peter Balkenende) in their society, while we're still focused on Britney Spears' troubles.

The Dutch are in the thick of the battle, and deserve our support and, if you're so inclined, our prayers. If they successfully defend themselves and their culture, the results will stand as an example for us all. And if they fail, the results will stand as an example for us all.

Posted by: special_guest at March 6, 2008 1:17 PM

Borg-

"Submission" was shown on Dutch t.v. in the Summer of 2004.

Theo Van Gogh was slaughtered for it on the U.S.'s election day, that November, although this may have been a coincidence.

It was/is also available online.

I spread the word around to everyone I know in The Netherlands and The U.S. to watch at the time, especially after Van Gogh's ritual murder by the jihadi killer Mohammed Bouyeri.

Posted by: profitsbeard at March 6, 2008 1:17 PM

There are alternatives to YouTube: Our Media, Google Video, GUBA, Jump Cut, Yahoo!Video, Video Egg, Bolt, Cast Post, Daily Motion, Nelsok, ViddYou, etc.

Posted by: US_infidel at March 6, 2008 1:19 PM

Posted by: Elric66
Has anyone contacted any of the networks in the US to see if they will air Geert Wilder's film?

You must be joking, you saw how the media in the states rushed to publish the danish cartoons.

Posted by: Shiva at March 6, 2008 1:22 PM

Posted by: Infidel Pride

Geert's own website (that's bound to guarantee him maximized hits, and improve his ad revenue)

I don,t think that Wilders interested in revenue from this film.

And it is this fact that sets him apart from many of the other anti-jihadists.

Posted by: Shiva at March 6, 2008 1:44 PM

Posted by: sheik yer'mami

In fact, 7 years after 9/11 I think the EUrabians are much closer to understanding the threat than the deliberately stoopid in the US.

Just look at yourselves:

You don't even have one single Wilders!

And the chances are the are going to get themselves a moslem President

http://illustratedpig.blogspot.com/2008/03/america.html

Posted by: Shiva at March 6, 2008 2:05 PM

Not quibbling with your overall point that most US media folk are all the way Dhimmi - but Savage isn't the only one. Bill Handel definitely stood up to them http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Handel

Posted by: Bill Ryan at March 6, 2008 7:09 PM

"Wilders has said that in the event he is not able to release/premier it on Dutch national TV, he will hold a press conference on or around March 28th just before releasing the film on the internet."
-- Klein Verzet

Hopefully we won't have to wait that long now that Dutch broadcasters have refused to air the film.

p.s. K.V., Thank you for your excellent blog!

Posted by: alexon at March 7, 2008 1:03 AM

Thanks Alexon. Compliment much appreciated.

Posted by: Klein Verzet at March 7, 2008 9:45 AM

What do you mean, we don't have any Geert Wilderses in the U.S.?

We have Robert Spence! We have Ali Sina! (I'm assuming he's American....)

We have Wafa Sultan. And I'd love to claim Ayaan Hirsi Ali, but the Dutch have her right now - soon to be France?

We also have many other great and unheralded individuals who have been risking life and limb to expose this hideous cult of death that is daily bearing down on us.

The Truth About Islam

Posted by: Suziq at March 7, 2008 11:27 AM