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March 7, 2008

"She’s a Christian and her life is in danger if she goes back": Iranian ex-Muslim denied refugee status in New Zealand

If leaders of Western countries were aware of the death penalty for apostasy in Islam (per Muhammad's own words), and that it is anything but a relic of the past, this sort of thing would not happen. It would also give them pause to consider that this is the same Sharia law that some of their own citizens and residents want to implement in their countries. "Deportation could spell death," by Hayden Donnell for the North Shore Times:

Deportation could mean death for Bahareh Moradi - Immigration New Zealand is ordering the 25-year-old Iranian Christian back to Iran within the next two weeks.
It is refusing to wait for a High Court judicial review of her appeal for refugee status, or for the Iranian embassy to issue her a passport.
Three of Miss Moradi’s brothers and their families have already been granted refugee status and are living in Auckland.
One of those brothers, Hamid Moradi, says his sister is being denied her rights and sent into danger.
Converting to Christianity is – under Sharia law – an offence punishable by death.
"I can’t believe this, that this could happen in New Zealand – one of the most democratic countries in the world," says Mr Moradi, a Birkenhead resident.
"They have to let us talk at the High Court. They just have to let us talk.
"It is our last chance."
Miss Moradi’s first application for refugee status was declined in 2006.
She appealed that decision to the Refugee Status Appeals Authority, with the support of her family and her pastor.
That was denied in December 2007 in a decision that called her conversion to Christianity into question.
The family then spent $5000 hiring a lawyer to apply for a judicial review in the High Court.
Because Immigration New Zealand will not wait for its result, the family is now spending another $2500 to try for an injunction on Miss Moradi’s deportation orders.
Mr Moradi is upset the organisation is deporting his sister when it lists a judicial review as a right on its website.
"If they believe we had no right to go to the High Court then why did they let us pay $5000?
"I want a guarantee the review can go ahead even if she is in another country."
His sister has refused to sign removal papers, but has signed an application for an Iranian passport.
"I do not understand why they would not wait even for her to get a passport," says Mr Moradi.
"This way she can’t go to any countries except for Iran."
Rinny Westra is Miss Moradi and Mr Moradi’s pastor at St Aiden’s Presbyterian Church in Birkenhead.
He testified to the genuineness of her conversion at her first appeal and is protesting her deportation orders.
"She’s a Christian and her life is in danger if she goes back.
"There seems to be something very negative towards Iranian Christians."

Indeed. Even when they're not apostates from Islam.

Posted by Marisol at March 7, 2008 12:24 AM
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An appeal to religious leaders in New Zealand and abroad may help; so would intercessions and petitions with the New Zealand government and its ambassadors and consuls.

Posted by: John C [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 7, 2008 1:27 AM

Muslims in New Zealand, and their non-Muslim collaborators in the government, are clearly behind this. It's a fantastic situation, where Muslims continue to be admitted, in large numbers, because anyone sensible will recognize that Muslim immigration ought on September 12, 2001 ceased all over the Western world, once the spectacle of the parties and celebrations all over the Muslim world had been observed and fully taken in. Yet those who suffer the most from Islam -- non-Muslims and, especially, apostates, are in danger, apparently, of being repatriated.

Who in New Zealand will look into this? Who will raise the issue of where this kind of decision comes from, who is influencing those who make immigration policy and come up with something like this?

Posted by: Hugh [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 7, 2008 1:37 AM

Could any JW readers living in New Zealand help her out?

Posted by: Voltaire [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 7, 2008 2:30 AM

Also what does Thomas Haidon think? He's a lawyer and lives in New Zealand. If he's truly a moderate, then shouldn't he be helping her out?

Posted by: Voltaire [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 7, 2008 2:36 AM

Posted by: Hugh

Who in New Zealand will look into this? Who will raise the issue of where this kind of decision comes from, who is influencing those who make immigration policy and come up with something like this?

May-be her case was looked into, and they found her conversion was a conversion of convenience
and she was unlucky to be exposed, where as her brothers where able to pull the wool over the eyes of Immigration New Zealand

Odds on they where moslem when they first arrived to New Zealand, and converted after arrival and able to pull off their scam.

It is scams like this that has a negative effect for the true christians who are being persecuted in Iran

So I find it positive that the Immigration New Zealand are waking up to this scam

It would be even better if New Zealand put a stop to all immigration of moslems from Iran, and grant
entry only to those who where christian at the time of leaving iran.

This is easily done as there are a few organizations who are dedicated to helping persecuted groups in Iran.

It would be ideal for Immigration New Zealand to work with this groups so as to avoid the expense of scams like this, also to ensure that the right people are allowed into NZ, and stop moslems from abusing this loophole

Instead of protesting about this case, NZ should deport this woman, and also review the brothers, and if the converted after arrival, then their conversion should been considered questionable and they also be deported, thus making room for those that are already being persecuted in Iran, not moslems who leave Iran for financial gain and resort to playing the victim card.

Posted by: Shiva [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 7, 2008 2:56 AM

Posted by: Voltaire

Also what does Thomas Haidon think? He's a lawyer and lives in New Zealand. If he's truly a moderate, then shouldn't he be helping her out

Do you mean Thomas Hamza Muhammad Haidon New Zealands Tariq Ramadan

Posted by: Shiva [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 7, 2008 3:05 AM

Contact info. for NZ embassies and consulates in the US: http://www.nzembassy.com/contact.cfm?CFID=13101702&CFTOKEN=66006957&l=86&c=31

Contact info. for NZ high commission in the UK: http://www.nzembassy.com/contact.cfm?CFID=13101702&CFTOKEN=66006957&l=56&c=14

Contact info. for NZ mission to the UN:
http://www.nzembassy.com/contact.cfm?CFID=13101702&CFTOKEN=66006957&c=51&l=124

Prime Minister Helen Clark: pm@ministers.govt.nz
Rt Hon Helen Clark
Prime Minister
PO Box 18888
Parliament Buildings
Wellington
NEW ZEALAND
Ph: 64 4 471 9998
Fax: 64 4 473 3579

Posted by: margheri [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 7, 2008 8:50 AM

Sorry, I posted the last comment too soon.

New Zealand Embassy to Belgium/Mission to the EU:

http://www.nzembassy.com/contact.cfm?CFID=13101702&CFTOKEN=66006957&l=70&c=24

Posted by: margheri [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 7, 2008 9:14 AM

So Western governments are refusing to deport people like Mullah Krekar because they might be tortured upon their return, but it's okay to send an innocent Christian convert to her death?

Posted by: Futureman [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 7, 2008 10:39 AM

If she and her family are for real, she should be granted asylum.

If not, deport the whole clan.

Taqiyya (tactical lying) comes in all flavors.

Posted by: profitsbeard [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 7, 2008 11:21 AM

The New Zealand government should be ashamed of itself.

Posted by: US_infidel [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 7, 2008 12:54 PM

Why not go to Lebanon? There is a large part of the country that is Christian still.

Posted by: Borg [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 7, 2008 1:13 PM

If this was a muslim making false claims, muslim would get refugee status accepted.

Posted by: Crusader [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 7, 2008 3:19 PM

Posted by: US_infidel

The New Zealand government should be ashamed of itself.

Why should The New Zealand government be ashamed, Like I said before these conversions stink of conversions of convenience.

This family where moslem when they left Iran, so they where not being persecuted, where as there are thousands today who are still being persecuted in Iran.

There have been cases of moslem going to the extreme of mutilating themselves so as to avoid being deported, such as sewing up their mouths.

New Zealand would be best getting rid of these people so as to avoid possible trouble in the future,such as expensive court cases where they start claiming damages for psychological stress caused by Immigration services.

Here is an example of what shit they will do so as to stay, granted, this is not New Zealand but it is the same type of people, Iranian moslems

AN IRANIAN refugee who sewed his lips together while on a hunger strike in Baxter Detention Centre is now suing the Commonwealth of Australia for damages.

Abdul Amir Hamidi came to Australia on a boat in June 2000 from Iran, where he had been imprisoned and tortured for several months.

Mr Hamidi, 35, claims his treatment by Australian authorities triggered a severe psychiatric illness, for which he will need supervision for the rest of his life.

In his South Australian Supreme Court statement of claim, Mr Hamidi says he was repeatedly physically and verbally abused by detention centre guards.

When being transferred to the Woomera detention centre in 2001, Mr Hamidi says he was left handcuffed and without water for up to five hours in stifling heat, as guards lunched at a roadside cafe.

Mr Hamidi claims he was denied access to a doctor of his choice after sewing his lips together as part of a hunger strike at Baxter in late 2004.

During his detention, Mr Hamidi swallowed shampoo and laundry powder, slashed himself with razors, hit himself in the head with rocks and tried to hang himself.

Despite his history of self harm, Mr Hamidi says he was denied psychiatric treatment for anxiety and post traumatic stress disorder.

Mr Hamidi says he was held in isolation cells for long periods, when "it should have been obvious that such confinement could itself cause or exacerbate psychological or psychiatric damage."

He was released from detention on Christmas Eve 2004, after the Federal Court ordered he be put into a mental health facility.

Mr Hamidi, who is now an Australian citizen, is the first detainee to launch legal action in South Australia.

Last month, the NSW Supreme Court awarded former detainee Parviz Yousefi $800,000 for permanent psychological damage suffered in detention.

In 2006, the same court awarded Iranian child Shayan Badraie $400,000 after the Commonwealth agreed to a settlement midway through a trial.

The Commonwealth has been given until later this month to file its defence.

http://illustratedpig.blogspot.com/2008/02/emotional-vampires.html

Posted by: Shiva [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 7, 2008 3:53 PM

I saw the article in my local paper. Last time I wrote to a minister about a similar situation, I received the reply that they don't really trust these conversions. They seem to have some grasp of taqiyya.

As for finding this clear statement on the front of our little free local paper, usually only concerned with community issues, I could hardly believe my eyes:

"Converting to Christianity is – under Sharia law – an offence punishable by death."

What more could you ask for?

New Zealand does not let hordes of any type of immigrant into this country. We have a very strict points system (similar to Australia, and which the UK is now imitating!!!). And we let a very limited number of refugees in.

A Christian Sudanese friend of mine is one such refugee for instance.

Our government is far from perfect, but we are more cautious and immigrant-wary that many other western nations.

I do pity this girl if she really is a convert, but as people say - it seems damn convenient...

Posted by: Lili [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 8, 2008 2:28 AM

Lili - yes, NZ does allow hordes of immigrants in. And you are paying the price. The tagging, the violence in South Auckland, the recent attempted hijacking of the ANZ flight on the South Island - to name a few issues.

Still, the NZ ministers - and Clark - are too naive to come to terms with the fact that helping others at the expense of your own citizens is suicidal.

The absolute lack of security on domestic flights - still - is appalling.

The hordes of Somalis are appalling.

The mosques are only a short time away and NZ will be just as crippled to deal with that as they are tagging.

Another issue here in NZ - and this probably contributed to this case - is the proud, militant, atheism so displayed by so many.

Well, thats fine as long as its aimed at Christians where it is safe - what will you do when you attempt to stifle islam - once you allow more than the nose under the tent - and a bomb goes off?

More insipid letters to the editor and useless handwringing in the beehive.

Posted by: infidel! [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 9, 2008 1:53 PM

It is true that a large exception is made for Pacific Islanders.

Hmm, what do you think will happen if immigrant muslims start talking fire and brimstone? Do you think the strongly christian Pacific Islanders will take it lying down?

Posted by: Lili [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 10, 2008 1:01 AM

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