Maybe his case had less merit than he thought it did. He should have aimed lower and prolly it would have passed by. Notice the slimey innuendo about the judge being a Clinton appointee. It's a lot easier to slime some judge than actually examine the rational merits of Michael Savage's case.
I sent him $10, but as far as I am concerned, he is an ugly, stupid fascist bigmouth who fancies himself as being really intelligent cause he was a Botanist. He is rude and abusive and really turns me off cause he is too stupid to realize when he is wrong or dishonest. I won't listen to that ugly egotiscical lunatic anymore, his paranoid self centeredness makes his show all about him. The mark of wisdom is when you admit you don't know something instead of making blanket indictments based on his rabid lunacy.

Posted by: Dumbo at March 12, 2008 9:23 AM

How did I guess you would side with CAIR?

Posted by: Elric66 at March 12, 2008 10:16 AM

I left California in 1965 or so. What the hell happened?

Posted by: tanstaafl at March 12, 2008 10:52 AM

The action in U.S. District Court in Northern California also accused CAIR of using extortion, threats, abuse of the court system, and obtaining money via interstate commerce under false and fraudulent circumstances – calling it a "political vehicle of international terrorism" and even linking the group with support of al-Qaida.

Errr, yeah, but what about the original copyright infringement? That seems a little bit easier to prove in court, don'cha think? So, did CAIR violate his copyright or not? Or, are there exemptions to the copyright law for Muslim groups, out of a sensitivity to cultural pluralism?

Posted by: special_guest at March 12, 2008 12:13 PM

"I left California in 1965 or so. What the hell happened?"

Growing up 2000 away, I thought it would be paradise in Southern California. The best days for a teenager or someone in college would have been from 1959 to 1967, but I was just California dreamin'. Blame my day dream on Jan and Dean, Dick Clark's "Where the Action Is" and the Beach Boys. Oh, for the good ole days.

I think Charlie Manson spoiled it.

Posted by: Pelayo at March 12, 2008 12:54 PM

Pelayo -

I think Brittney Spears just administered Last Rites.

Posted by: tanstaafl at March 12, 2008 2:13 PM

Pelayo,

Yep. Growing up on a farm in the Midwest during the '50s and '60s, and being fed a steady diet of Beach Boys, Mamas and Papas, and Sandra Dee surfing movies, I, too had a vision of Southern California as paradise. But after moving there and staying for 15 years I was ready to move on.

California as a state of mind is great, but when you live there the reality is a little less glamorous.

Mostly, I miss the restaurants.

Posted by: Eastview at March 12, 2008 2:17 PM

About Michael Savage - Yes, his hyperbole is sometimes over the top but that's what draws listeners to the show. It's a refreshing antidote to the incessantly bland pap fed to us by the MSM.

It's useful to separate style from substance. Savage's style may offend some, but from what I can tell the substance of his stance against creeping Islamization is exactly the same as that of JW/DW. It's the same message, but with a style of delivery that will appeal to that segment of the population for whom lofty intellectual concepts finds no connection. Savage should be supported by all of us. In the Long War, he is on our side.

Posted by: Eastview at March 12, 2008 2:36 PM

Time for civil disobedience everybody. When the US judiciary threatens US national security, we cannot go quietly into the night...

Posted by: pythagoras at March 12, 2008 2:39 PM

Considering the quickness of the decision, I believe the Clinton Appointee had a personal dislike of Mr Savage.

Posted by: Pelayo at March 12, 2008 4:44 PM

Savage goes way to far. I mean, just about every creep you hear or read these days says he's politically incorrect. Well, he goes on about vermin in the media and mentally deranged people, and based on the trash that comes out of his mouth, he's on top of that list. His constant insults, lies, self pitying whining, gross overgeneralizations and pseudo scientific and intellectual stuff that comes out of his mouth has finally made me lose any sympathy and respect. Plus, his attitudes about Islam, as well as other issues, seesm to fluctuate with the tide, making me think he is manic depressive too. Whatever else, he is truly a self centered man lacking any true wisdom. But according to him, it's just the deranged liberals and homosexuals who are out to get him. For someone who is such a victim, he seems to do pretty well.

Posted by: Dumbo at March 12, 2008 5:16 PM

Michael Savage said

What I may try to do is have the case removed from California because I cannot get a fair trial ... I may remove it to Alabama, for example, where maybe I could get a fair trial – maybe where there's still America. It certainly doesn't exist here in California.

That's one way to build your (Californian) audience, by insulting them and calling them un-American, compared to Alabamans. Or, maybe all the Californians who listen to "Savage Nation" are American, but those who don't, aren't.

Posted by: special_guest at March 12, 2008 6:53 PM

That's one way to build your (Californian) audience, by insulting them and calling them un-American, compared to Alabamans. Or, maybe all the Californians who listen to "Savage Nation" are American, but those who don't, aren't.

Gee, I thought he was referring to the Californian judges, not Californians in general. I also doubt many of the "Californian" judges are "Americans" ideologically.

Posted by: Concerned Citizen at March 12, 2008 7:39 PM

Dumbo,

Michael Savage may be all the things you describe him as, arrogant, self-centered, etc. I only listen to him infrequently, and sometimes I have to change stations when he goes on a rant. Still, over the years I have managed to construct my "Inverse Savage" filter that filters out the inessential, non-informative parts of his show. Offensive as his comments may be to some, the fact is that his underlying message about Islam resonates with a lot of Americans judging by what I read on many sites, including this one. He has the freedom to insult you, just as you have the same freedom to make insulting remarks about him, as you did in your post above. In any case, I don't see anyone rioting or any bombings being carried out because of anything Michael Savage has ever said. On the other hand, I see daily bombings by Muslims in many places carried out in the name of Islam or Allah.

If the judge reached her decisions because she didn't like Savage's communications style, then she has no business sitting on the bench. She's there to interpret the law in the cases brought before her, not make judgments based on whether she likes or dislikes the particular people involved.

Posted by: Eastview at March 12, 2008 8:25 PM

"Maybe his case had less merit than he thought it did. He should have aimed lower and prolly it would have passed by. Notice the slimey innuendo about the judge being a Clinton appointee. It's a lot easier to slime some judge than actually examine the rational merits of Michael Savage's case.
I sent him $10, but as far as I am concerned, he is an ugly, stupid fascist bigmouth who fancies himself as being really intelligent cause he was a Botanist. He is rude and abusive and really turns me off cause he is too stupid to realize when he is wrong or dishonest. I won't listen to that ugly egotiscical lunatic anymore, his paranoid self centeredness makes his show all about him. The mark of wisdom is when you admit you don't know something instead of making blanket indictments based on his rabid lunacy."

Dumbo, thank you for your ungrateful comments regarding Michael Savage. Since he has the option to amend his complaint, one could hardly say that the case is dead, and, as for aiming too high, instead of too low, you could not be accused of the same based upon your unkind comments regarding his intellect or person.

Eight million listeners seem to enjoy his insight and personality. He has done a lot to expose the truth about Islam through his radio program, utilizing the expertise and scholarship of R. Spencer and others for the benefit of millions of listeners, but, this, evidently, has escaped your notice.

Since you were only willing to pay $10 to support a very expensive lawsuit against CAIR, I just made another donation in support of Savage's action. Maybe, Bill Clinton, the world traveler, will chip in a bit of his $30M from the uranium mine deal to make up for your flagging support.

Posted by: BurkasforHitlery at March 12, 2008 8:31 PM

Ungrateful for what?
the man has made millions peddling his ravings. He is a very popular, well connected person who has 1000000x as much as I have. If he wants to insult, abuse and denigrate his callers and people he has a problem with and advocate mass death and imprisonment, then he deserves to feel some heat. his popularity says there a lot of paranoid, dishonest, stupid people in America who are such mindless piglets that they have to admire such a creep. Popularity means nothing to me.

Posted by: Dumbo at March 13, 2008 9:44 AM

Please . avoid Alabama .
Tennessee , Alabama, Mississipi belong to the Good Old Boys Club.
Islam is not in their dictionary and they will go along with Cair.
You will fight not only ignorance but corruption.
Maybe it is better to go all the way to Supreme court in California.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/020045.php#comments

Posted by: Tartine at March 13, 2008 9:49 AM

Dumbo, your personal animus against an ally in the war against fundamental Islam obscures the bigger picture here. If it doesn't bother you that CAIR is trying to silence a critic and raising money to do so by infringing on copyrighted material, then criticize away.

Mass imprisonment and death to enemies of this country sickens you, huh? Vote Clinton/Obama in '08. It will be a redux of all the Clinton corruption and scandal including more military technology giveaways to the Chinese.

Posted by: BurkasforHitlery at March 13, 2008 6:54 PM

Michael Savage uses verbal shock therapy in an impassioned effort to wake up those who do not understand the challenges that Americans face.
He needs to be applauded for his courage in taking on the presssure groups who want to completely subvert the principles of the founding fathers. Liberalism is a mental disorder, which combined with the toxic mixture of multi-culturalism and political correctness, that has rendered us vulnerable to islamic fascists seeking to use the very freedoms that we cherish to destroy our nation. I listen to Michael Savage every chance I get even staying up late because I know I am listening to the spirit of Paul Revere. God Bless America. God bless Michael Savage!!

Posted by: Americantothecore at March 13, 2008 9:31 PM

I think that you have misunderstood the judge's ruling. Savage's suit alleged that CAIR's use of excerpts from his broadcasts violated his copyrights. The judge rule, correctly, that the use of such excerpts constituted "fair use". This is exactly the same aspect of copyright law that entitles Jihadwatch to quote excerpts from statements by CAIR. The judge's ruling is legally solid and does not indicate any sympathy for CAIR's positions or activities. CAIR is a despicable organization but it did not infringe Savage's copyrights, and that was the issue the court had to decide.

Posted by: billposer at March 14, 2008 3:52 AM