Well! Harumpf! They want a better sort of prisoner club, do they? It seems the black Muslims of Darfur are just a scosh too black...abd....you know. And now the kufr in the prison yards are juuuuust a tad to pale.....there's just no pleasing some people!

Posted by: Jauhara Al-Kafirah at March 22, 2008 7:37 AM

Submission makes it all better.........sarcasm alert!

Posted by: tanstaafl at March 22, 2008 8:35 AM

Surely some criminals are given pause not so much by the treatment they can expect at the hands of the state, but the treatment they can expect, despite the state's attempts to protect them, from their fellow prisoners.

Muslim prisoners present problems. One problem is their ability, where they form a large enough group, to successfully conduct Da'wa, and to work in tandem with Muslim chaplains similarly bent on conducting Da'wa among non-Muslim prisoners even as they minister "to the needs" of the Muslim prisoners.

The government, which gives orders to prison authorities, needs to recognize that campaigns of Da'wa are important instruments of Jihad, and also help to create supporters of, and sometimes participants in, terrorism. At the very least it helps to expand the base of those potential supporters, or raise the level of that sea in which those terrorists can swim. This means that such campaigns of Da'wa must be monitored, and efforts made to block them -- certainly to block the use of foreign money to pay for such campaigns.

What about the prisoners themselves? It may not be a bad thing to segregate Muslim prisoners, both for administrative reasons (it is easier to feed them in islamically-correct fashion), or even for reasons of safety (not their safety, but the safety of non-Muslim prisoners).

But it depends. The clever administraors of prisons will work backwards from the proposition that they should work to make it more difficult for Muslims to propagate the message of Islam, and do nothing to remove what are seen by Muslims as "obstacles" to Islam but are simply the pre-existing rules that need not be modified by Infidels, in an Infidel nation-state.

In this case, perhaps moving those two prisoners was unwise because it suggested a willingness to yield to Muslim demands. And those demands must, always and everywhere, be resisted. The mere fact of such demands being made with impunity, and then sometimes being met, swells the Muslim certainty of steady progress in removing Infidel obstacles, and the promise of inexorable triumph at the end. This is what must be eliminated -- and instead a kind of despair, so that those Muslims who thought they could transform Western society, will instead find that the transformations will, if they are to be observed anywhere, will be found in their own families, as the whisperings of Shaytan, of all the circumambient shaytans, become too great. And that will make those most concerned to lead Muslim lives, to recognize that it will not be made any easier for them, and despite all the economic benefits they receive from the too-generous Infidel nation-state, benefits they have shown themselves in the countries of Western Europe to exploit to the fullest (including support for polygamists now granted in Great Britain) and then some, they will decide, one hopes, to return to Dar al-Islam so as to lead those Muslim lives, and thus to leave the Infidels, who had at long last demonsetrated that they were unwilling to yield any further, to their own, intolerable Infidel ways.

Given the demands of the Muslim prisoners here, it would probably have been better not to meet those demands. Perhaps fear of what they might encounter in prison will inhibit some Muslims from participating directly in terrorist activities, or even supporting them. But the larger question remains: how to restrict the deployment and force of the Money Weapon, how to limit and halt campaigns of Da'wa, how to halt and reverse demographic conquest. These are far more important questions that have been obscured by the manic and exclusive attention paid to terrorism, which is merely one instrument, and not the most effective, of Jihad in Western Europe.

Posted by: Hugh at March 22, 2008 8:51 AM

Abu Hamza is in Belmarsh awaiting deportation. I expect Barot will 'hook' up with him.

Posted by: grobari at March 22, 2008 9:09 AM

"They said they were at risk from other inmates - who are predominantly white - and claimed the environment was "dangerous" to ethnic minority prisoners. It is thought they had received death threats and attacks."

Now substitute a few words,

They said they were at risk from other inmates - who are predominantly muslim - and claimed the environment was "dangerous" to white non-muslim prisoners. It is thought they had received death threats and attacks.

Think anything would be done about that?

Grobari,
Good one! My morning smile.

Posted by: ImNoDhimmi at March 22, 2008 9:28 AM

I'd leave them where they can get a feel for living in terror. Actually, they are better protected than the average 'Kaffirs' are who are just trying to go back and forth to work to provide and enjoy a better living environment for their family and neighbors.

Posted by: Shawmut at March 22, 2008 11:21 AM

"Two of Britain's most dangerous Islamic terrorists moved to new prison - because they complained fellow inmates were 'too white,'"
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In other words, they can dish it out, but they can't take it in!

Posted by: PersonOfTheBook at March 22, 2008 1:17 PM

Send them to GTMO!

Posted by: PersonOfTheBook at March 22, 2008 1:18 PM

Racists.

I am talking about those terrorists.

Posted by: FreeSpeech at March 22, 2008 1:35 PM

And when they immigrated to England, they were under the impression that it was entirely occupied by Africans?

Too bad that all the other terrorists simply don't up and leave Europe for the same reason.

Posted by: Peter_Wiggin at March 22, 2008 2:44 PM

They said they were at risk from other inmates - who are predominantly white - and claimed the environment was "dangerous" to ethnic minority prisoners. It is thought they had received death threats and attacks.

Excuse me, I thought you were the crowd that loved death more than you loved life. Now we are supposed to worry about your safety.

Don't be whiteconvictaphobic, rejoice in the multiculturalism of the prision environment. Because if you and your buds keep this crap up, you'll look back on that environment as a picnic.

Posted by: RalphInfidel at March 22, 2008 5:04 PM

This is Britain, or should I say England, today. You have no idea how bad it is in this country now. This sort of thing happens every day. We have an unelected prime minister who is actively supporting the dilution and destruction of England.

I can't stress this enough. England is being destroyed by it's own government. Not accidentally but purposefully. They are actively importing anyone who will act against us.

While I am happy to have controlled immigration, this isn't it. Anyone, absolutely anyone, who will undermine England is being welcomed with open arms. This is classic Frankfurt school Marxism. What they don't realise is that they have invited people who want to destroy everything, imcluding their Marxist dream.

Sadly for them the country has finally woken up to it.

We have been treated like crap for too long. Unfortunately we are about to see the English at their very worst. I for one don't want to see this, but I am not listened to in my socialist nightmare of a country. I'm just English and white.

Posted by: DaveMate at March 22, 2008 5:08 PM

DaveMate:
This is classic Frankfurt school Marxism. What they don't realise is that they have invited people who want to destroy everything, imcluding their Marxist dream.

This is the most ironic part of the nightmare. Their delusional utopian dream (and, I believe, their childish economic jelousy) demand that Marxists see capitalism as man's worst evil, even though they are likely to be first the first necks on the chopping block.

Perhaps it is a marriage of convenience, and Marxists believe that once capitalism is eradicated, eradicating Islam can be accomplished with quick and brutual efficiency.

... and perhaps Islamists feel the same way about the Left.

Posted by: RalphInfidel at March 22, 2008 6:09 PM

The real solution is for the Brits to arrest more of the jihadis in their midst.

Then these maniacs'll have plenty of "asians" for company behind bars with them.

A win-win for Britain.

Posted by: profitsbeard at March 22, 2008 8:17 PM

From the BHO school of thought concerning race relations?
/sarcasm
Now moslems are going to tell us who they will go to jail with?

Posted by: interestinconundrum at March 22, 2008 8:20 PM

The police departments of every civilized nation must protect ALL people... so they are in a bit of a catch-22. If they would but let a few of the would-be terrorists succeed at a mission or two, then they would have to put their lives on the line PROTECTING the "asians" of the UK.

I guess the utilitarian in me says, "let them commit a little terror." Eventually all the jihadis would be forced--it doesn't matter "how"-- to abandon their plans of turning the UK into yet another Muslim hellhole.

Posted by: kj at March 23, 2008 12:25 AM

Man! I had no idea things had gotten this bad (in England)...http://www.thisislocallondon.co.uk/display.var.2132678.0.woman_on_toilet_attacked_by_rat.php

Posted by: DaninVan at March 23, 2008 12:01 PM

Can you imagine a white prisoner in the U.S., where, sad to say, a large percentage of prisoners are black, demanding to be moved to a different jail because the other prisoners were "too black"? And the authorities complying with this demand?

My head is spinning. This is too much to take in before breakfast...

Posted by: angloirishslav at March 23, 2008 10:02 PM

This is similar to what happened in my daughter's gang rape case from last year.
Link:http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,21591912-5001021,00.html
This is justice?
So now in NSW the defence can chose who represents the victim.
D.T.

Posted by: D.T. at March 23, 2008 11:22 PM

I've got the solution:

Tanning beds for the white guys.

Posted by: A_Nonny_Mouse at March 24, 2008 4:23 AM

It is interesting to compare this case with that of a BNP organiser who got two years imprisonment for an assault on an Iraqi asylum seeker. According to the BNP there were no witnesses other than the asylum seeker who spoke no English, no medical evidence of injury and character witnesses on behalf of their man from a minority community were not allowed.

Nevertheless despite no previous convictions he got two years jail which effectively means one year with remission. He was sent to prison for serious offenders rather than an open prison for low-risk offenders and obliged to request solitary confinement for 23 hours-a-day after being attacked by Muslim prisoners in the first week. A left-wing website gloated that he was “Skulking in his cell all day” implying that had he been a decent fellow he would have come out and allowed the Muslims to beat him up regularly.

Towards the end of his sentence the authorities were obliged to release thousands of prisoners early as the influx of serious criminals among asylum-seekers was causing gross overcrowding. Although the BNP man had been a model prisoner when he applied for early release and electronic tagging it was refused and he was made to serve the legal maximum.

They did however release a lot of violent criminals and child molesters under the same early release scheme more than a few of whom re-offend.

Just making a comparison.

D.T.

Unbelievable! I have heard of the defence objecting to jury members who might be biased, that’s standard practice but getting a prosecutor fired for trying too hard to secure a conviction!

Posted by: Fred at March 24, 2008 4:13 PM

And this doesn't qualify as racism bedcause....???

Posted by: Timur at March 27, 2008 7:45 PM