This is what I think of when someone mentions Ben Elton, though that doesn't happen all that often to tell the truth.

If you remember the Young Ones he was one of the writers.

Posted by: non-croyant at April 2, 2008 9:44 PM

Too scared, so threats, world wide brotherhood of Islamic protest from the Ummah to the Muslims on the street, BBC and the western media begins to shake in fear. By the will of Allah we have the western media and them in terror, their hearts are full of terror. F*#%ing S#*T, what the? I have heard jokes on other religions. Hurting the sensibilities of Muslims? What about the sensibilities when they bomb and mass murder free peoples? What about the sensibilities of minorities, women and children in Muslim countries? Huh! What about the sensibilities of those persecuted and harassed my Muslims in Islamic countries when their belief system is not of Islam and sharia? Why has not the west placed sanctions on Islamic countries that violet human rights and genocide in Islamic countries of non Muslims?

Mohammedenbots are not concerned about the sensibilities of the free people they want to murder as many as possible, by the will of Allah, and looks like the western media and leaders want to comply as much as possible through evasion and obfuscation.

Posted by: savsiv at April 2, 2008 10:15 PM

Did y'all know it is haram for a married Muslim couple to engage in intercourse standing up? It's true; it might lead to dancing.

Posted by: Pelayo at April 2, 2008 10:16 PM

Will they show Achmed the dead terrorist?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jA_ABcohuZ8

Posted by: dentalque at April 2, 2008 10:39 PM

I tell you... I am very confused about the whole “religion thing”. I’ve just never made the leap of faith. I see all of this insane behavior and it just keeps getting worse. I read a new posting by zawahiri earlier tonight and that crazy bast*#d had the gall to say that muslims don’t kill the innocents in Iraq and elsewhere, it’s the “enemy” that hide behind muslims to use them as shields. I am not making this up. I read that article here:

http://www6.comcast.net/news/articles/general/2008/04/03/Ask.Al.Qaida/

But that’s not my point. My point is that I read another JW post a few days back (sorry I don’t remember who posted it) and it really has me thinking. The poster asked if this is the “great deception” that is talked about in the bible? Can so many people just be fooling themselves or is there a deliberate conspiracy to tell the opposite of the truth? Just how many people would willingly choose to ignore reality? Is this truly "evil"? I can see what’s happening with my own eyes and I just can’t understand it. I even got into an argument with my brother at the airport a couple of weeks ago because he thinks I’m just being over-dramatic, “like always”. And he’s the religious one… go figure. Yeah, this crap has really got me thinking.

Posted by: praxis9 at April 2, 2008 11:06 PM

Pelayo, great line.

And this is well said by Ben Elton quoted in the above article:

They might pretend that it's, you know, something to do with their moral sensibilities, but it isn't. It's because they're scared.

Several kinds of powerful censorship are now operative against Westerners in relation to Islam. Self-censorship, censorship by bosses who want to avoid trouble, censorship by well- or badly-intentioned multiculturalist politicians, censorship by lawsuits, and the overarching censorship imposed by jihadist thugs issuing death threats and death fatwas.

Censorship in relation to Islam is patchy but seems to have become more prevalent especially over the last couple of years. In the past, when people didn't talk in the media about Islam, the lack of mention was due to disinterest or to the fact there were fewer Muslims in the West then, so most people were pretty unaware of Islam. But nowadays the patches of silence settling in here and there are of the deafening kind, in this case eloquent with all that has been stifled and that might be said, in outrage, or in fear, or in sadness, if people weren't silencing themselves in an effort to protect themselves, their employees, or their families.

Most people in the West are no doubt still oblivious to all this, yet the force of the censorship and self-censorship emerging seems to be approaching a point where more and more people will inevitably become aware of it and of the large change it represents in the way Westerners, especially Americans, have become accustomed to live.

But the new censorship silences not only discussion of Islam; discussion of the censorship itself is silenced too. Stealth technology and self-cloaking devices are right up censorship´s alley. And Elton is right: censorship often masquerades as censuring, as some sort of moral posture, when in reality fear is all that's working.

Posted by: traeh at April 3, 2008 12:37 AM

I remember an episode of the classic comedy "Yes Minister" when Sir Humphrey and his sidekick Bernard had an exchange about taking "Mohammed to the mountain" when talking about a large Middle eastern chap.

Oh and the Not The 9 O Clock News sketch about the "search for the Ayatollah Khomeini's contact lenses goes on" over pictures of large numbers of Muslims praying with their face on the ground.

No-one batted an eyelid.

How times have changed.

Posted by: Celsius at April 3, 2008 3:03 AM

"scared"
Surely that's an admition that Islam is not actually and religion of peace.
I think the BBC should do a documentary on how it got the immmigration issue so wrong.

Posted by: Ian at April 3, 2008 4:00 AM

praxis9,

You are not alone I have been going through the same thing. The truth is so easy to see but people are ignoring it or deliberately spinning it to suit their needs. Its actually made me more religious because its so unbelievable and vast that it really be what was warned in the Bible. Another example is what an Austrian politician is going through. Charged with a crime for "insulting" Islam even though what she said is in the hadiths while an "artist" who depicted Jesus having sex with his apostles gets away. Insane? Very much so.

http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2008/04/iron-curtain-descends-on-austria-and.html#readfurther

Posted by: Elric66 at April 3, 2008 6:47 AM

The dual attitude at the BBC to religious jokes is best illustrated by this little tale that went out an arts programme on Radio 4. First told by the Irish comedian Dave Allen it was ostensibly broadcast to mark the first anniversary of his death.

Jesus arrives in heaven and wants to see his father but as he has never seen him he doesn't know what he looks like.

He sees an old man with a beard obviously anxious to meet someone and asks who is looking for? The old man tells him he is looking for his son so Jesus asks him what has he looks like and the old man tells him "Well he has holes in his hands and feet".

Jesus says; "That’s me!"

The old man says; “Pinocchio”!

Pure coincidence of course that this went out on Easter Saturday 2007 but what are the chances of a joke equally offensive to muslims going out, let alone going out during Ramadan?

Putting Christian sensibilities aside the most dangerous thing about this attitude is that they are depriving us of the best weapon we have - ridicule.

I think it was George Orwell who said that fascism could never take root in Britain because if men started goose-stepping about in uniforms with the right arms in the air everyone would just laugh at them. Now we have men with beards and funny clothes and women looking out of slits in black sacks all so they can leave this world for a celestial brothel. But we must not laugh at them because that's not nice - and they would kill us if we did.

But for the sake of the future we need to laugh at them – at every possible opportunity.

Posted by: Fred at April 3, 2008 7:40 AM

"But for the sake of the future we need to laugh at them – at every possible opportunity."

Laughter isnt going to stop the Islamic demographic bomb.

Posted by: Elric66 at April 3, 2008 7:49 AM

non-croyant:

"This is what I think of when someone mentions Ben Elton"

Ha! I'd forgotten all about Nozin' Aroun' - brilliant!

The BBC is shamefully spineless. No chance of them ever allowing comedians to do something like The Ayatollah Song these days.

Posted by: Matamoros at April 3, 2008 8:46 AM

Laughter isnt going to stop the Islamic demographic bomb.

Posted by: Elric66

Oh, absolutely, you are correct. But laughter, humor, and mockery are non-lethal arrows in our quiver of freedoms which we are now loathe to use, often self-censoring such ideas because they might offend some mad mullah and cause one to be threatened with death. I've said it before, and I'll say it again, when the likes of a Monty Python or a Mel Brooks do a blasphemingly funny movie on Ol' Moe and there are no death threats or riots from the Religion of Perpetual Outrage, then we'll finally be getting someplace.

Please don't sell mockery short. It just hates that.

Posted by: Rick at April 3, 2008 9:06 AM

"There is no fun in Islam"
- Ayatollah Khomeini

So it's up to infidels to provide it.

Take my wives, please.

Posted by: tanstaafl at April 3, 2008 10:18 AM

I guess this is really what Islamophobia is.

The BBC, the media, our leaders are displaying sheer terror and irrational fear in the face of Islam.

Constant appeasement, pandering, special treatments not available to non Muslims, dare not upset the adherents of the Religion of Perpetual Outrage, and they slap down anyone who is remotely disrespectful to the object of their irrational fear.

Yes, this is islamophobia.

Posted by: pr126 at April 3, 2008 1:34 PM

As a professional comedian, this hits home. I have heard for years gutter-mouthed comics push the limits on obscene scatological/necrophiliac blasphemy on Christianity and Judaism which is a big yawn to me. Jesuits long ago used to have a saying 'Even the Blessed Virgin can be used as a sex fantasy'. The transcendent transcends. The soilers soil themselves.

Here is the BIGGEST fattest target, this pompous ignorant Sacred Cow of self-righteous barbarism called Islam and they must 'bite their tongues'. Cartoons, pushing the envelope stage bits etc etc could finally REALLY make a difference.

Posted by: poetcomic1 at April 3, 2008 1:51 PM

Here's my comedy for the day: Abdul the Moderate Muslim, singing "I'll be There"

You and I must make a pact, take a look in my back pack.
We'll kill those infidels, I'll be there.

I will make a bomb for you, with Allah's help, we'll see it through.
We'll kill those infidels, I'll be there.

We'll blow up all those big cities,
We'll invade Europe, and America, too.
We'll get rich from all the spoil
And we'll have our harem, to come home to.

The FBI is after me, because I made a threatening speech
Let's lie about our motives, it's easy, you see.
We'll tell them we are peaceful men,
and that terrorism is against Islam.
Those stupid infidels, we'll fool them.

If they should ever make a movie about you, even if it's totally true,
We'll scream and protest, and I'll be there.
We don't want the infidels to know,
that killing them is in our souls.
We'll kill and maim them, and I'll be there.

(Just look over your shoulder, Abdul)

I'll be there, I'll be there, we'll kill those infidels, I'll be there
Don't you know, baby, yeah

(Alahu akhbar....)

Posted by: PersonOfTheBook at April 3, 2008 2:20 PM

Let's all have a go at writing funny songs or doing funny videos, and start spreading them around the internet.

With tons of these out there, we'll begin to chip away at the dreary monster known as Islam.

Posted by: PersonOfTheBook at April 3, 2008 2:28 PM

The Ballad of Ole Mo'

Come and listen to my story 'bout a man named Mo'
A poor camel trader, he was soon to roll in dough
He invented a religion, with a racket of protection
and promised his hitmen, a ticket straight to heaven.

He began to travel, around Arabia
Raping and stealing, from almost everyone
He married a girl, when she was only six
and he beat all his wives, for disobeying him.

He made a treaty, with a group of Jews
But after they surrendered, he killed all of the "fools".
"The People of the Book", the Jews used to be
but, Miracle of Miracles!, now they're Apes and Pigs!

Well the first thing you know, ole Mo's a millionaire
Great big haram, and stolen goods to spare
He returned to Mecca, with a sword in his hand
and terrorized the people of that formerly free land.

"Kill them all"; "forced conversions"; "slavery".

Posted by: PersonOfTheBook at April 3, 2008 2:30 PM

"Let's all have a go at writing funny songs or doing funny videos, and start spreading them around the internet."

OK, how about my "99 names of allah" video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqM3W8IcgP4

Posted by: Steve Wrathall at April 3, 2008 3:38 PM

Pretty good. Let's get some more going. We can get comedy songs all over the internet, and once we get a huge number out there, there won't be anything the arrogant Muslim Mafia can do about it.

Posted by: PersonOfTheBook at April 3, 2008 4:59 PM

Celsius, our cable company has BBC America, "Yes Minister" was my favorite show, Since BBC America no longer shows it, I have no reason to watch BBC.

I heard there was one or more seasons of "Yes Prime Minister" where Jim Hacker becomes Prime Minister.

As good as "Yes Minister" was, then BBC America gave us several episodes of "Bottom."

Posted by: Pelayo at April 3, 2008 5:32 PM

No Muslim society would ever dare make a show like "The Vicar of Dibley".

We need anonymous SWAT teams of cartoonists and a no-holds-barred ruthlessly iconoclastic comedy show.

Because so much in sharia that is not downright horrible is uproariously ridiculous, pointless and psychologically destructive - e.g. - according to Abdul Karem, sharia forbids men and women to talk to one another during sex!!!! Nor are they permitted to touch one another's genitals.

Now - supposing the parents have made a halfway decent choice, and naive little Fatima and Abdul are, in fact, quite interested in each other and human instinct is taking its course... poor things, if they've been strictly instructed in their religion, sharia law would forbid them from doing the two things - talking, and caressing - that would enable them to find out how to please one another.

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at April 3, 2008 6:21 PM

Note - in the final paragraph above the names 'Fatima' and 'Abdul' should have been within quotes, as typifying a purely hypothetical and fictional pair of young Muslim newlyweds.

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at April 3, 2008 6:24 PM

Tanstaafl, I am rolling on the floor, laughing!

Thanks; I needed that.

Posted by: Vee at April 3, 2008 8:58 PM

Dumbledoresarmy,I've read enough fatwas to know that what Abdul Karem said is false.

There is a funny fatwa that I cannot find now where a good Muslim asked if the could have a threesome with his two wives. The answer was although husband and wife can see one another nude, the wives cannot. I can visualize the questioner's face now - extreme dissappointment. That second wife held such promise of bliss, dashed by some old flatus mullah.

Posted by: Pelayo at April 3, 2008 10:06 PM

If I had only searched a little more. Here 'tis:

http://www.islam.tc/ask-imam/view.php?q=7072

Shameless? Nah!

Posted by: Pelayo at April 3, 2008 10:21 PM

Thhe BBC ISN'T too scared, it is too islamic.

Posted by: DaveMate at April 7, 2008 3:08 PM