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An important message from the father of one of the heroes of Flight 93:
Dear Fellow Americans:The planned Flight 93 Memorial contains extensive Islamic symbolism. It is an insult to my son Tom, and to the other murdered heroes of Flight 93 who stopped Islamic terrorists from destroying the White House or the Capitol that terrible September day.
Please consider signing this online petition that I and some compatriots have put together. It calls for a new memorial design, and for investigation of the present design. If you want to do more, feel free to forward or post this appeal.
For those who are not familiar, the original “Crescent of Embrace” design was laid out in the crescent and star configuration of an Islamic flag:
Outrage over this overt Islamic symbolism forced the Memorial Project to disguise the original crescent with a few additional trees, but every particle of the original design remains completely intact in the so-called redesign. The giant crescent and star flag is still there!
The Memorial Project assumes that any similarity to an Islamic crescent has to be unintentional. Even if it WERE unintentional it would still be intolerable, but how can anyone look at that crescent and star configuration and think that it CAN’T be intentional? That is like seeing an airliner fly into the World Trade Center and thinking that it CAN’T be intentional. Worst of all, the Memorial Project refuses to confront voluminous evidence that the Islamic symbolism IS intentional.
It turns out that a person facing into the giant crescent will be facing Mecca. A crescent that Muslims face into to face Mecca is called a “mihrab” and is the central feature around which every mosque is built. The crescent memorial will be the world’s largest mosque!
When TWO airplanes fly into the World Trade Center, even the most naïve person has start taking the possibility of intent seriously, but not the Memorial Project. The Islamic symbolism in Flight 93 Memorial goes on and on, but the Park Service refuses to be concerned.
Architect Paul Murdoch says that the crescent shape comes from the hijacked airplane breaking the circle where it crosses the upper crescent tip. The flight path then continues down to between the crescent tips where Flight 93 crashed. (That’s right: the crash site is the star on the crescent and star flag.)
Along the flight path are to be placed 44 translucent blocks, equaling the number of passengers, crew, AND terrorists:
Left image: The Memorial Wall, traces flight path just above the point of impact. The white line at eye level is a set of 43 glass blocks, 40 to be inscribed with the names of my son and the other passengers and crew, and three (on the near side of the gap) to be inscribed with 9/11 date. Right image: At the upper crescent tip, at the end of the Entry Portal Walkway, sits a huge glass block, the 44th glass block on the flight path. It marks the spot where, in the architect’s description, the terrorists turned our humanitarian circle into a giant (Islamic shaped) crescent. Inscription: “A field of honor forever.”
I don’t want to celebrate the terrorist’s circle-breaking crescent-creating feat, and I certainly don’t want my son’s name inscribed on that terrorist memorializing block count.
We need to get the word out: the Flight 93 Memorial has been re-hijacked, and this time the whole nation is aboard. We have to get up out of our seats and stop this abomination!
Sincerely,
Tom Burnett Sr.
Northfield Minnesota, March 2008
P.S. Paper petitions are also available (with mailing instructions, and explanatory information on the back). Just open and print.
Online petition: http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/HonorFlight93/
Paper petitions and flyer-petition combinations: http://www.crescentofbetrayal.com/PetitionPage.htm
More information: http://errortheory.blogspot.com/2008/03/petition-for-congressional.html
Full exposé: http://www.crescentofbetrayal.com/
Posted by Robert at April 10, 2008 7:13 AM
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This is absolutely disgraceful, I am just stunned!!!
I hope the petition gets millions of signatures and this is barred from happening!
Posted by: Demvaril
at April 10, 2008 7:53 AM
Signed and forwarded to my co-workers
Posted by: Elric66
at April 10, 2008 8:03 AM
The memory of those brave Americans, who gave their lives on Flight 93, should not be sullied by Islamic symbolism and the worship of Satan. May the one true God grant them eternal peace and rest.
That said, I would gladly sign the petition but found it somwhat offensive and misleading as it as it requires a "donation" to validate the signature.
Posted by: descendantofacrusader
at April 10, 2008 8:04 AM
The memory of those brave Americans, who gave their lives on Flight 93, should not be sullied by Islamic symbolism and the worship of Satan. May the one true God grant them eternal peace and rest.
That said, I would gladly sign the petition but found it somwhat offensive and misleading as it as it requires a "donation" to validate the signature.
Posted by: descendantofacrusader
at April 10, 2008 8:05 AM
My apologies for the double post!
Posted by: descendantofacrusader
at April 10, 2008 8:06 AM
Hey descendantofacrusader, it does not require a donation, it clearly states that the money is to support ipetitions.com and no money goes to the petitioners.
This needs to be stopped. Keep the toxin of islam out of our memorial.
Posted by: Abu_Lahab
at April 10, 2008 8:20 AM
Abu_Lahab:
Once again: and the petition “clearly” does NOT say anything about a 'donation' being prerequisite for validation of the signature. I in no way disagree with the cause of the petition. My point still stands, thank you!
Posted by: descendantofacrusader
at April 10, 2008 8:31 AM
Descendant - if you look above the donation table, you will see the note "Your signature has been recorded." That is, assuming you signed. There's nothing about validating a signature.
Just close the window at that point if you're not interested in contributing to ipetitions. That's what I did.
Posted by: Godefroi
at April 10, 2008 8:46 AM
Does the child in the picture on the left appear to have on a headscarf?
Enlarge the photo by doing a 'Ctrl and scroll' - it sure appears to be.
at April 10, 2008 8:48 AM
descendantofcrusader,
You said: "That said, I would gladly sign the petition but found it somwhat offensive and misleading as it as it requires a "donation" to validate the signature."
From the site:
Your signature has been recorded.
Please help support iPetitionsWe promote democracy on the Internet by helping people and organizations create online petitions like the one you just signed. We provide these services for free and rely on donations from people like you to keep the site running. This is NOT a donation to the person or organization whose petition you just signed.
How is this unclear?
Posted by: Abu_Lahab
at April 10, 2008 8:49 AM
Descendant - if you look above the donation table, you will see the note "Your signature has been recorded." That is, assuming you signed. There's nothing about validating a signature.
Just close the window at that point if you're not interested in contributing to ipetitions. That's what I did.
Posted by: Godefroi
at April 10, 2008 8:56 AM
sorry for the double - network error resent
Posted by: Godefroi
at April 10, 2008 8:58 AM
Abu_Lahab, Goddfroi, et al:
The cause of the petition is correct - lets not get mired in detail. If I spoke in error, I apologize. Fair enough?
Posted by: descendantofacrusader
at April 10, 2008 9:13 AM
Absolutely descendantofacrusader,
My only concern was that people will read your comment and not go any further or be put of signing up. Despite the petition being a long shot it may just go across enough desks that someone somewhere will be motivated to join the cause.
You and I are already bonded by our fight against islam, no need to apologize.
All the best
Posted by: Abu_Lahab
at April 10, 2008 9:19 AM
Abu_Lahab:
My sentiments completely and thanks!
Posted by: descendantofacrusader
at April 10, 2008 9:27 AM
Looking at a satellite photo of the road on google maps, it appears that some site work is happening.
One other thing that was pointed out on one of the sites on this a while ago: The water feature on the right side of the photo appears to be a person sitting. Right outside the crescent there is another water feature, the place to wash(?) and out of view on this but clear on others it appears that there is a shrouded woman on the other side of the small "washing" water feature.
see http://errortheory.blogspot.com/2008/03/qiblalocator-confirms-mecca-orientation.html
Finally, something I hadn't seen before till I saw this particular view of it, it looks like a profile of a shrouded woman with hands in prayer.
Take a look; perhaps I'm seeing something that isn't there but it seemed to jump out at me today.
Posted by: eve_anne_gelical
at April 10, 2008 9:46 AM
The water features, identified at item 13, are more evident on
http://errortheory.blogspot.com/2008/03/petition-for-congressional.html
at April 10, 2008 9:48 AM
Signed, with a comment. Saw Morgaan Sinclair's just above! Also a great comment.
Posted by: darcy
at April 10, 2008 10:09 AM
Who IS the designer? A Mohammedan? A Mohammedan Apologist? I mean, obviously. One or the Other.
I mean, the 4 Murderers are included in the glass blocks? So, where there should be 40 blocks, there's 44! Hello! Reminds me of the PC MoonBats who included the Va. Tech murderer as one of the "victims." Yeah, right. Or it's like including the 2 Columbine psychos in the Columbine Memorial.
Because of the crescent design and the other Islamic features, I have to think that Mohammedan Sympathizers are designing the Flight 93 Memorial. What a disgrace. Beyond disgrace.
Posted by: darcy
at April 10, 2008 10:16 AM
On the bright side, should this nonsense continue to its disgraceful conclusion, the blocks are glass. Glass can be broken. If the caretakers of this egregious "monument" are willing to replace four blocks that mysteriously keep getting broken... (shrug).
Signed, with comments.
Posted by: Abscedere
at April 10, 2008 10:31 AM
If the design for this memorial had "accidentally" been drawn up in the shape of a cross or a star of david, the howling would be unbearable from the super secular shieldbearers.
But a Moslem Crescent, no biggie.
That must just be a completely innocent occurence, right?
I have a 12 lb. sledgehammer waiting for those extra four glass "terrorist memento" blocks, and don't mind serving time for their obliteration, should this insulting desecration of the memory of the heroes of Flight 93 ever get that far.
Posted by: profitsbeard
at April 10, 2008 10:48 AM
Eve_anne_gelical is correct. The two ponds are giant ablution ponds (one of a dozen typical mosque features, all realized on the same epic scale as the half mile wide Mecca oriented cresent, or mihrab).
The knee to chest line on the feminine shaped ablution pond points within one degree of the rhumb-line direction to Mecca (the direction of constant compass heading). The knee to chest line on the masculine shaped ablution pond points within one degree of the great-circle direction to Mecca (the shortest-distance or straight-line direction).
The feminine figure is not in a praying position, which in Islam is prostrate, but an abluting position, seemingly wiping water back over her hair with her head tipped back (part of the ablution ritual).
Many thanks to Robert for posting this letter from Mr. Burnett. Tom is going to give a speech to a Republican convention in Wisconsin later this month and we'll try to get some video that we can turn into something punchy to further promote the petition.
Posted by: Alec Rawls
at April 10, 2008 11:15 AM
I screwed up the link for the feminine shaped pond. Trying again. (Works!)
Posted by: Alec Rawls
at April 10, 2008 11:20 AM
Alec - when and where in WI? I would like to attend.
Posted by: mepeteart
at April 10, 2008 11:24 AM
"if you look above the donation table, you will see the note "Your signature has been recorded."
Maybe so, but you are led to believe that you need to donate.
I signed the petition, but then it throws this page up that gives you a choice of donation options that does NOT include $0.00 donation choice.
I just closed out the page, but was left feeling insecure as to whether or not my signiture would be counted.
I consider the way they handled this "donation" to be slimy and disengenuous.
Posted by: StephenDvd
at April 10, 2008 11:34 AM
Im #3075 and I didnt donate. I admit I was confused as others have stated but my signature and comment was recorded.
Posted by: Elric66
at April 10, 2008 11:37 AM
mepetart:
I will ask the Burnetts if the convention is open to anyone. Will update here when I hear back.
We are still trying to arrange a videographer. Any chance that is up your alley? Nothing fancy. This would just be for web distribution, so we don't need high resolution. Good sound would be nice though.
Posted by: Alec Rawls
at April 10, 2008 11:40 AM
Craziness stops eventually. Doesn’t it? I mean would they support statues of James Earl Ray alongside statues of Martin Luther King Jr. I think not.
This is the second time a highly questionable and insulting "memorial” is being made. The first poke in the eye being in Arizona.
Why do these "artists” designing this stuff get to decide, why not let real "artists” submit their designs to the folks of that state vote on what they would actually like?
at April 10, 2008 12:01 PM
Alec - wish I could say I was an expert in that field but about all the video experience I have is doing dog shows. And that's with my digital camera. What part of WI will this be in? Perhaps you could find someone in the area who would be willing to donate their time to a good cause? I'd be happy to help look for that someone if I know where I'm looking. I do have access to a good video camera but it's not a professional model.
Posted by: mepeteart
at April 10, 2008 12:01 PM
Signed!!
Ugh, can my skin get any more creepy-crawly?
Posted by: Madame Vengier
at April 10, 2008 12:01 PM
mepetart:
I will ask the Burnetts if the convention is open to anyone. Will update here when I hear back.
****************************************************
Alec - I am a registered Republican in WI and have worked on a campaign, if that helps any.
Posted by: mepeteart
at April 10, 2008 12:04 PM
This shows the degree to which America has already been infiltrated. This abomination is the result of subversion, treason, ignorance and Arab-Muslim influence in the US.
GWB seriously f*kced up after 9/11. But the political landscape today is even worse, much worse. In fact it is so bad that America needs to send Sada Cucumber to the OIC:
http://www.masnet.org/articleinterest.asp?id=5013
at April 10, 2008 12:07 PM
This is all part of the jihad we refuse to confront. We are getting exactly what we desire.
If we deported all muslims and outlawed islam, we would not have this or a million other muslim-related problems.
The muslims are taking over our lands right before our uncomprehending eyes and all we do is whine and complain and sign petitions. Yet not even one law restricting the movement of muslims has been considered. It's not a good way to win a 1,400-year-old struggle.
Islam marches on...
at April 10, 2008 12:08 PM
Thank you for posting this, I had no idea this was going on and I live in PA. I can say one thing for sure, in my neck of the woods this is getting no attention, although I live in the eastern portion of the state.
This memorial is design is disgusting.
How did this all come about?
How did architect Paul Murdoch get to design it? Why is the overwhelming evidence of its Islamic symbolism being ignored?
If anyone living in Pa is involved in this petition in any detail please contact me and let me know if I can help since I live in the state.
Posted by: adobe
at April 10, 2008 12:20 PM
StephenDvd:
“I consider the way they handled this "donation" to be slimy and disengenuous.”
Wow – I feel somewhat responsible (because of my initial post) for the negativity that has unfortunately developed regarding the “signature vs. donation” issue in this thread. Whether there is confusion or no: the issue of probable Muslim-themed sacrilege in the memorial design to commemorate the true American heroes of Flight 93 is FAR more important than any pettiness that I may have initiated and I completely support Tom Burnett in his noble endeavor.
at April 10, 2008 12:38 PM
Architecture is the marriage of art and engineering. All architects study the history of art and architecture. All should try their best to understand how their symbols will be seen by others. Memorials more than other works that tell a story. The architect's job is to find a design that is meaningful to the viewer.
It is not unusual for a public memorial to gather a lot of criticism before it is built. The Vietnam Memorial received a lot of criticism before it was built. The prime criticism was about the overly abstract nature of the proposed design. In practice that memorial has been very successful and the abstract nature seems to have worked for most viewers. In this case I don't think the critics are wrong. The architect's own efforts to describe his crescent as an arc show that under all he understands what he did.
I cannot know what was in the mind of the architect but when the criticism began he should have tackled the issues directly instead of dismissing them.
at April 10, 2008 12:47 PM
Signed!!
Ugh, can my skin get any more creepy-crawly?
Posted by: Madame Vengier
LOL!! I'm with you on that! Creepy-crawly is right; and I've signed the petition, too.
Posted by: champ
at April 10, 2008 12:52 PM
There is a paper petition drive taking place on the ground in western PA. We have a petition page set up where anyone can open up the petitions in their browser and print them out. The address to mail signed petitions to is included on the petition. You can also email Bill Steiner, who is organizing the petition drive. Just don't expect an immediate reply since his is going fishing til Monday.
We have forced the issue into the public consciousness in western PA by buying ads and protesting at the public meeting of the Memorial Project, which has netted dozens of news stories in the local and Pittsburgh papers over the last two years. A reporter for the UK Independent who did a story on the memorial last week told Tom Burnett that he had talked to many people when he was visiting Somerset and pretty much everybody knew about the controversy and wanted a new design. Bill Steiner, who chats up lots of people, says the same thing: pretty much every random person he encounters now knows and is angry.
About the only exception is the local politicians, who are all implicated, because they ran the Memorial Project and don't want their misfeasance exposed. The media has been equally obistinate, because they are all in bed with the local power structure, but we have nevertheless succeeded in forcing quite a bit of coverage. They try to slant their stories in favor of the defenders of the crescent, but the facts are too obvious to cover up and the people see right through it.
Posted by: Alec Rawls
at April 10, 2008 12:52 PM
Islam - where they take PRIDE in their evil deeds.
Posted by: champ
at April 10, 2008 12:53 PM
Alec,
Thank you for your service to our nation and our nation's heritage by undertaking this task.
When I mentioned that one part of the design looks like someone praying, I didn't mean the ponds. I meant the large beige area; it looks to me that someone is sitting on the crescent. On the qibla locator page, it seems to me that item 1 is the head of the figure, the small protrusion facing 12 noon being hands and item 2 down by the red crescent being knees. Could it be someone in prostration also facing mecca?
Posted by: eve_anne_gelical
at April 10, 2008 2:17 PM
I signed this petition with a greater sense of indignation than I have ever felt in my life! I also called the White House Comment Line and gave them a piece of my mind.
Anyone still believing that the government is their friend had better take a look at what the National Park Service permitted to be built as a 'memorial' to the jihad victims on Flight 93. Well, guess what--the government ain't our friend!! It couldn't be. I still can't believe this. I am truly HORRIFIED!!
To call this so-called "memorial" to the heroic passengers on Flight 93 anything less than a monstrosity would be sacrilegious. What a betrayal of these people and our country!
Imagine being a family member of one of the victims on that flight on that tragic day and coming out to visit this "memorial" and then discovering a tribute honoring Islam and the jihadist "martyrs" had been erected instead of a tribute properly honoring your loved ones (as was promised by the government).
Islam was the villain on 9-11. The passengers on Flight 93 were the heroes. The "memorial" was to be a tribute to THEM. Not the jihadist murderers who invaded our country to commit murder and mayhem.
God help us. I'll never trust the US government again!
Posted by: pythagoras
at April 10, 2008 3:19 PM
"The Memorial Project assumes that any similarity to an Islamic crescent has to be unintentional."
OMG - what a load of lies! Give us all a break! Doesn't this make you mad?!!
Blood pressure reading: 160/90 ...and rising!
Muslims and their supporters must think that we are SO stupid. Yeah, this demonic design was unintentional just as sending Flight 93 into the ground was unintentional. Shut up!!
Posted by: champ
at April 10, 2008 3:42 PM
"Crescent of Shame" would be a better name.
Perversely, this Crescent ties Islam forever with the horrific events of 9/11.
One change would be to have the innocent victims separated from the Islamic Jihadis.
Posted by: DP111
at April 10, 2008 4:33 PM
Eve_anne-gelical:
The large beige area above the giant crescent just reflects the pre-existing alternation between woods and field in those areas. The male and female shaped ponds, on the other hand, are very much the product of Paul Murdoch's landscaping. As the land lies now, there are not three separate ponds, but a single large wetlands area. Murdoch is crossing the wetlands with a raised causeway, and will be using bulldozers to create the pond shapes depicted in the site plan.
Interestingly, the Cresent of Embrace design is the only design out of a thousand submitted that violates the only physical restriction set down by the Memorial Project: that the physical landscape not be altered. It would not even be legal under environmental protection laws for a private developer to build a causeway through the wetlands Murdoch plans.
Posted by: Alec Rawls
at April 10, 2008 4:44 PM
Perhaps this is addressed elsewhere in this thread, but aside from Burnett, where do the families of the other victims on Flight 93 stand on this issue? One would think that a unified stance on their part, coupled with a vigorously prosecuted law suit, would force a stoppage of the current work, review of the selection of the architects who produced this monument and send it back for a new design.
Posted by: Eastview
at April 10, 2008 4:54 PM
People -you DON'T have to "donate." Just sign. And your signature (and comment, if you choose) gets recorded. A no-brainer. There's nothing "slimy and disingenuous" about it. JUST SIGN! Hello!
Posted by: darcy
at April 10, 2008 5:53 PM
Perhaps this is addressed elsewhere in this thread, but aside from Burnett, where do the families of the other victims on Flight 93 stand on this issue?
Well, here's what some of them have to say:
http://www.nps.gov/flni/parkmgmt/upload/tomtancredo.pdf
at April 10, 2008 5:57 PM
Alec Rawls said
It would not even be legal under environmental protection laws for a private developer to build a causeway through the wetlands Murdoch plans.
Well, isn't that a significant point? It wouldn't be the first development project shut down due to environmental concerns.
I mean, the part about it being an Islamic crescent oriented to face Mecca and about it being a memorial to the hijackers instead of the passengers is offensive, but plowing over wetlands is illegal.
Posted by: special_guest
at April 10, 2008 6:39 PM
With the Vietnam memorial this was not a government sponsored thing. The veterans had wanted something for years, and in 1979 formed the Vietmam Veterans Memorial Fund, raised money, and eventually got permission for a memorial at Washington. The actual design was chosen as a result of an open competition. It was a young architecture student called Maya Ying lin whose design was chosen. She was only 21 at the time.
The government had not wanted to commemorate Vietnam because it was not a military victory, and the war was mired in controversy, but a generation that had lost their buddies needed some closure and place to grieve.
I think this one looks like it is a government initiative and it would seem it has been penetrated and hi-jacked at some level.
Posted by: devorgilla
at April 10, 2008 7:13 PM
Signed
Posted by: MP
at April 10, 2008 7:20 PM
Unfortunately - this is only the "tip of the iceberg":
Bloggers such as Michelle Malkin, LGF, "Zombie", etc. were on this story nearly 3 years ago - when it first became public knowledge.
First clue: "The Crescent (!?! nothing remotely islamic about that symbol -now is there) of Embrace"
About that time (September 11, 2005) - the process was supposedly halted for reassessment, but as we now know - nothing was changed.
For some more info with additional links on this subject:
http://michellemalkin.com/2005/09/09/flight-93-memorial-controversy/
(if the link does not work - go to Malkin's blog and do a search www.michellemalkin.com).
Here is one of the most baffling aspects:
"The fundraising campaign is being co-chaired by former Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Ridge, who was the first Homeland Security Secretary, and retired Gen. Tommy Franks, who oversaw operations in Afghanistan and Iraq after the terrorist attacks." (M. Malkin blogsite).
We either have some very very dense federal officials - or we're really in trouble (as they are pro-islamists).
at April 10, 2008 7:23 PM
If Murdoch WAS a 'Troofer', could he have found any more offensive way to make his point?
I'd sure like to see his list of pending and awarded contracts for 'offshore' clients...
at April 10, 2008 7:45 PM
Signed the petition!
Posted by: bigcatgirl13106
at April 10, 2008 9:45 PM
I am petiton #3651
Posted by: bigcatgirl13106
at April 10, 2008 9:49 PM
I've just signed the petition.
Posted by: commonsense
at April 11, 2008 12:12 AM
Signed, sealed and delivered. I hope this petition reaches far and wide and I hope it reaches 300 million signatures.
There is no excuse what-so-ever for this design to be accepted by the American people!
#3711
Joseph DeFalico-
"This project needs to be restarted from scratch.
Why would any of the victims of flight 93 want to be honored with the muslims who caused that atrocity?"
Posted by: mrockroll1969
at April 11, 2008 1:13 AM
Signed.
Alec
Do we need to provide our real names, or will our online identities be adequate?
Posted by: Infidel Pride
at April 11, 2008 1:27 AM
#3727
Posted by: Infidel Pride
at April 11, 2008 1:29 AM
I'm sure you can use any name you want.
Posted by: mrockroll1969
at April 11, 2008 1:30 AM
I wonder if they record your IP address? Maybe we all can sign it 1000 times, lol.
Posted by: mrockroll1969
at April 11, 2008 1:32 AM
This is obviously an islamic symbol. Anyone who says it isn't or that it is unintentional is lying.
Whoever is behind this is laughing at those who died.
I assume it was designed by either a muslim, someone who is controlled by muslims or a do-gooder artist who is trying to prove islam is a peaceful religion by shoving islam in the faces of the victims of terrorist atrocities and being controversial.
There is a place for controversy, and this isn't it. It's like having a swastika as a memorial to those who died in the holocaust.
If I was you America, the day they open this insult to your country you should go down there with bulldozers and hammers and destroy it.
If you allow this "memorial" you will have taken the next step to being a dhimmi as the UK, my country which is now the dhimmi capital of the world (for now).
at April 11, 2008 8:30 AM
I sent an email from ipetition to friends about it and the link isn't working...it is missing the "HonorFlight93/" part of the link.
at April 11, 2008 9:09 AM
Just to give you an idea of how dhimmi th UK is now, see this article from the UK paper the "independent" which describes the idea that this memorial has islamic symbology as a "conspiracy theory" and that no one other than conspiracy theorists could possibly see any islamic symbology in an islamic crescent, with an islamic prayer sundial pointing towards mecca. According to the "independant" the direction is coincidental as it points to washington.
This is a totally disingenuous article, just like most of the press in the UK, who try to manipulate people into disbelieving what they can see with their own eyes.
Apparently the families of those murdered on flight 93 think this islamic symbol is fantastic and that those who oppose it are crazy, as there is nothing in this design to suggest any islamic symbolism whatsoever. Go figure!
Welcome to the UK. OR Great Dhimmiland if you will.
Let's roll.
Posted by: DaveMate
at April 11, 2008 9:19 AM
Mepetart:
Convention chairman Richard Hartung says anyone can come. He is going to send me the details. You can email me (alec@rawls.org) or Mr. Hartung (rjhartung@centurytel.net) to find out. Location is Pope County Wisconsin.
Posted by: Alec Rawls
at April 11, 2008 5:27 PM
Blab.
Yammer.
Blog.
Whatever.
Get off you fat cans and take action:
1,000 Harley Davidson motorcycles.
1,000 sledgehammers.
That's how you "counter-hijack" that monstrosity.
Posted by: Mike Schneider
at April 13, 2008 4:58 AM
Blab.
Yammer.
Blog.
Whatever.
Get off you fat cans and take action:
1,000 Harley Davidson motorcycles.
1,000 sledgehammers.
That's how you "counter-hijack" that monstrosity.
Posted by: Mike Schneider
at April 13, 2008 5:00 AM
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