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April 21, 2008

Man sentenced to death for blasphemy in Saudi Arabia

Sharia Alert: "Saudi Arabia: Death, for taking God's name in vain," by Borzou Daragahi in the LA Times's Babylon and Beyond blog (thanks to Western Resistance, where there is much more on this):

Turkey's president and prime minister have stepped in to save the life of a Turkish man sentenced to die in Saudi Arabia.

The prisoner's capital offense: using God's name in vain during an argument with a neighbor, according to Turkish newspapers.

Turkish President Abdullah Gul has penned a letter to Saudi King Abdullah requesting a pardon for Sabri Bogday, a barber who moved to Jeddah from southeastern Turkey more than a decade ago. Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan has also reached out to Saudi officials on the barber's behalf.

Apparently, Bogday had an argument with an Egyptian neighbor in Jeddah. The neighbor told authorities that Bogday had "cursed the name of God."

Bogday was arrested, tried and sentenced to death, even though his accuser has apparently disappeared. [...]

We'll give the final word to the astute Fred Stopsky, at the Impudent Observer, who spotted the story:

Saudi Arabia stands with the United States in the fight against terrorism. Unfortunately, that fight against terrorism does not include the nation of Saudi Arabia.

Indeed not, and that is just one of the unfortunate results of our refusal to face the reality of what (and who) exactly we are fighting in this great conflict.

Posted by Robert at April 21, 2008 8:38 AM
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No accuser to be found?

No other witnesses, or evidence to be found or confronted in a court of law?

How can one be sure that the other arguing, and accusing party was only getting back at him?

That's all it takes in Saudia Arabia,the word of someone and you can get a death sentence?

How could any intelligent person define that as justice?

No intelligent design or thought here, just archaic paganism brought to you by sharia law

Posted by: Mackie [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 21, 2008 10:21 AM

Allah is just the cardboard mask that Moloch has worn since 600 A.D.

Posted by: profitsbeard [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 21, 2008 10:41 AM

Actually, two witnesses (Muslim men), or four Muslim women, or four Christian or Jewish men are required. The testimony of non-Muslim women is not admissible nor is the testimony of non-Muslim men who are not Christian or Jew admissible in a Shari'a court.

Throughout history where dhimmis have lived under the yoke of Muslim oppression it has been and remains to this day, a common practice for two Muslims to accuse a dhimmi of some wrongdoing in order to cancel debts or settle vendetta. It is harder for a dhimmi to defend themselves (by bringing witnesses in their favor) than it is for Muslims to defend themselves since dhimmi can never find two Muslims who are willing to testify against another Muslim.

Shari'a is quite a morass. It never scaled up successfully from its roots as a primitive tribal warrior code. It is the codification of an ideology that truly needs to be expunged from the planet forever, just as other tribal codes such as cannibalism also needed to be expunged.

Make no mistake interpreting what I am saying. I advocate the extermination of the ideology, not its adherents. If its adherents however do not accede to the abandonment of the elements of the ideology that compels them to make perpetual war on their non-Muslim neighbors, then they choose their own destruction.

Posted by: SaracensAtTheGates [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 21, 2008 10:43 AM

President Bush seems to think these guys are swell, so how bad could they be?

Posted by: MontyRockIV [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 21, 2008 10:56 AM

Wow, It would really make me want to work there. I have to wonder how the Kingdom is able to recruit Western "slaves" at all.
/Bandar Bush, call the ranch.

Posted by: MP [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 21, 2008 12:31 PM

I don't understand what this unfortunate Turk is supposed to have said ? What language were they arguing in ?
When I was in Saudi many years ago, I was initially surprised by the casual use of "Wa'Allah" and other phrases including the name of God, which are not considered blasphemous. Or so I was told. Did they lie ?
Off-topic, I cannot help thinking that in the good old days the Turks would have sent the Albanians in to get this sorted out, and to do a bit of pillaging on the way....

Posted by: M Al-Content [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 21, 2008 3:04 PM

I read in Zaman that the head of the Turkish Human Rights Commission appealed to the Saudis for this man's life. He based his pleas on the fact that the accused was a family man and that Saudi-Turkish friendship should not be harmed. No mention of the fact that blasphemy should not be a crime.

Posted by: Jen [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 21, 2008 7:53 PM

This story should be run and run and run all over the Kemallist or secularist press in Turkey. Let them get at Erdogan and his crew obliquely, by contantly exposing what goes on in Saudi Arabia, Iran, Sudan, Pakistan -- and making clear that It Can Happen Here.

The university rectors, the judges, some journalists, are doing all they can to preserve the mental freedoms of the advanced segment of Turkish society, and the possiblity of such mental freedoms being taken advantage of by other, still mind-formed-manaclded, Muslims who do not realize what Ataturk wrought, and how fantastic, we now see, was his achievement - even if the achievement needed to be worked on, needed to be extended, needed to not replace one cult of personality (that of Muhammad) with another (that of Ataturk himself), or one Best of Peoples (the Arab Muslims) with another (the "Turks").

This is a news item that must be exploited to the fullest, by free Turks, Turks freed from the mental enslavement of Islam (even if they may continue to call thsemelves "Muslims" or "cultural Muslims" but in fact are "Muslim-for-identification-purposes-only" Muslims).

Use this story. Shout it out from the top of the Galata tower. Publish it all over the Turkish-language blogs. Don't stop.

Posted by: Hugh [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 21, 2008 9:02 PM

Hugh, you have high hopes for the Turks. From a German/European perspective where they run rampant through our cities in mudering gangs this sounds rtaher optmistic.

Hell, they can't even own up to the fact that they massacred a million Armenians in I think it was 42 days.. and they make fun of the Holocaust in Germany along with their "palestinian" and Lebanese buddies.

Anyone whpo reads German can find their vile comments to that effect as well as a host of other issues such as gays and "infidels" all over Youtube.

I have zero hope for the Turks. Nor for us Europeans the way things are going.

I am fortunate to live in America and I PRAY that we won't see HUSSEIN OSAMA in the White House or I may have to end up in Brazil or New Zealand.

Posted by: Ummah Gummah [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 22, 2008 1:53 AM

Alas, I spoke too soon. The Turks did do something good after all. I just read on the atheist blog the link to which someone posted on Jihadwatch that the ottomans actually hit the black rock in mecka-mouse with cannon fire.

Big ups to the Turks!

Too bad they were lacking in fire power to finish the job.

Mankind might well be living in peace and prosperity already if they had been able to blast that devil stone to Kingdom Come.

Posted by: Ummah Gummah [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 22, 2008 2:37 AM

...or I may have to end up in Brazil or New Zealand.

Why? Are they Muslim-free zones?

I didn't know such places existed, but if they do they're going to get rather crowded in the coming years.

Alternatively we could send all Muslims back to the desert wastelands of the Middle East where they belong. There they can rape, murder and pay homage to their fictitious satanic god to their hearts' content.

Posted by: watling [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 24, 2008 4:53 AM

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