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April 24, 2008

Islamic scholars in Algeria: government ban on veils in passport photos violates Sharia

How is it that so many Islamic scholars end up becoming Misunderstanders of Islam? Anyway, it will be interesting to see how this shakes out: will Sharia win or lose? I expect the smart money will be on another victory for the guardians of religious purity. "Algeria passport veil ban protest," from the BBC (thanks to Morgaan Sinclair):

Muslim Scholars in Algeria say a government ban on pictures of veiled women in passport photographs runs counter to Sharia law.

The Society of Algerian Muslim Scholars has denounced the ban which also applies to bearded men.

The organisation says the veil and beard are part of Muslim tradition which cannot be outlawed.

The society says it issued a fatwa against the ban after receiving hundreds of complaints.

Prime Minister Abdelazeez Belkhadem is reported to have received complaints from the public urging him to overturn the ban.

The BBC's Arab affairs analyst Magdi Abdelhardi says it is an example of a modern secular state coming under fire from a resurgent Islamism....

Wow! Really?

Posted by Robert at April 24, 2008 9:52 AM
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Hey, that's okay. The proper response from immigration officers in threatened countries would be to simply say: "I'm sorry, Ma'am this doesn't look like you. Could you step over here, while we verify your identity?" Then, proceed to do whatever is necessary to identify the Muslimah in question, up to and including DNA matching.

No exemplar for a DNA match? Gee, that's too bad. No identification, no entry into the country. Pretty simple.

Can't afford the plane ticket home? Gee, that's too bad. Detention and deportation are the solutions to that difficulty.

Posted by: Abscedere [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 24, 2008 10:26 AM

No, I'm not very hospitable. I cringe to see my relatives drive into the yard, and I love them.

Posted by: Abscedere [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 24, 2008 10:28 AM

The organisation says the veil and beard are part of Muslim tradition which cannot be outlawed.

Maybe there is equality between the sexes in Islam after all. It seems that both men and women must cover the lower half of the face. Well, the men can do that by letting their beards grow, but the women must make do with a fake beard, otherwise known as a veil.
Either that, or a lot of Moslem women have beards, and cover them up with a veil out of embarrassment; and the rest of Moslem women (the non-bearded ones) wear the veil out of sympathy for their hirsute sisters, and to keep the veil from becoming the sign of a bearded woman.

Posted by: ebonystone [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 24, 2008 11:01 AM

"Muslim Scholars in Algeria say a government ban on pictures of veiled women in passport photographs runs counter to Sharia law."

Well then Sharia is alive and well in Canada. My wife who works at Costco saw one woman last week come in for a passport photo. All that could be seen were her eyes. My wife asked about it and was told "that's their religion!" (why would you ask, bigot)

Posted by: Sounder [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 24, 2008 11:44 AM

The Passport Canada website says:

Photos must show a full head without any head covering, unless it is worn for religious beliefs or medical reasons. However, both edges of the face must be clearly visible.

There is a photo of a woman in a headscarf and veil, as an example of an unacceptable picture. Somewhat confusing, actually. I guess it's okay to cover the head, but not the face.

http://www.ppt.gc.ca/cdn/photos.aspx

Posted by: ImNoDhimmi [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 24, 2008 1:05 PM

Then I hope the Gov't rejects the photo taken! They must.

Posted by: Sounder [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 24, 2008 1:45 PM

Maybe they should use those novelty pictures that when turned a little, change appearance (clothes disappear, etc.) Veil, no veil. Beard, no beard. Just shift the angle you look at the passport picture.

Look how many misunderstanders of Islam cover their faces with ski masks, balaclavas and bandanas when demonstrating, raging or just committing general acts of terrorism. Equality for the sexes as ebonystone said. One covers their face so they won't shame their men, the other covers their face because they are shameful cowards.

Posted by: bigwhiteinfidel [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 24, 2008 1:51 PM

As there is no mention of flying in the Koran, I would assume that air travel is un-Islamic. So this should not be an issue.

Posted by: Paul [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 24, 2008 5:46 PM

did the Muslim Scholars study at Fatwa U..

Posted by: pulsar182 [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 24, 2008 8:51 PM

just tell them sharia law is not the law here
proper pasport photo or go home them we see how many
muslims start having proper photos on their passport
they tried to viel tunt here and go shut down by the supream court

Posted by: crusader [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 24, 2008 10:48 PM

I thought international law states that a passport photo must show the face? I guess that Shar'ai law is greater than international law.

Posted by: Mystical Time Traveler [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 24, 2008 11:24 PM

This "veiled passport photo idea" is a bit of Islamic economic genius!

One photographc image could be re-used for every woman in the country!

Who would ever know the difference?

Islam: defacing women since 622 A.D.

Posted by: profitsbeard [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 24, 2008 11:54 PM

Paul,
Mohammed's flying horse.

Posted by: jay [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 25, 2008 1:32 AM

Just don't issue passports to Muslims fanatic enough to disregard these clear, obvious and non-discriminatory rules.

There is every chance that these are the people we would prefer stay in their own countries and perform their 'religious duties' (including surprise demolitions of UN buildings) in their own countries, not here.

Posted by: Henrik [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 25, 2008 5:13 AM

I'm with Abscedere above.

As Yoda would say -
"Your face I see can not, My country you see can not. Too bad, so sad, now home you go will"

Posted by: CelticCoyote [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 25, 2008 9:19 AM

Muslim Scholars in Algeria say a government ban on pictures of veiled women in passport photographs runs counter to Sharia law.

Good.

Posted by: RalphInfidel [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 25, 2008 6:14 PM

I'd like to become a Muslim I could misunderstand it a lot better

Posted by: dennisw [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 25, 2008 8:59 PM

"I'd like to become a Muslim I could misunderstand it a lot better

Posted by: dennisw "


you would be disappointed...Muslims cannot understand anything except maybe how to be stupid and violent...

Posted by: pulsar182 [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 27, 2008 4:43 PM

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