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Here again, the responsibility is entirely upon non-Muslims to foster integration. There seems to be no awareness whatsoever of the fact that Islamic leaders in Europe are discouraging integration, or any discussions of the manifold implications of that fact. "Culture Dialogue: EU Needs To Teach Coexistence At School," from ANSAmed, May 16 (thanks to Insubria):
(ANSAmed) - BRUSSELS, MAY 16 - In order to build up a European society where Muslims, Jews and Christians can live together in harmony we must act on the schools and on the children: this is the "recipe" which the EU must apply, according to what has emerged from the public debate organised by the EU Commission under the initiatives of the European Year of intercultural dialogue. "We must contribute to the conciliation by focusing on education," Education and Culture Commissioner Jan Figel said, explaining that he has just signed an agreement which multiplies by four the EU contribution for the Erasmus Mundus programme, which allows the students of the southern coast of the Mediterranean to study in Europe.According to the leader of the Muslim Council in the UK, Abduljalil Sajid, it is necessary that the institutions try to establish a dialogue with the religious communities, "because the churches are always a resource: when there is a crisis, the religious communities are always ready to help without asking for anything in return," he said in a speech at the conference. Mario Mauro, vice-president of the European Parliament, also agreed with the work to be done in the schools: "We must promote education policies which also include religion and help to understand the differences, because the future of Europe depends on how we will integrate". (ANSAmed).
Posted by Robert at May 17, 2008 9:40 AM
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Yeah all that open asylum for these poor souls who happen to want to leave their so called paradise of despotic and tyrannical ruled Islamic countries and enter the EU and set up the whole cycle over again. The Europeans foolishly thinking they will assimilate like non-Muslim immigrants. The Love affair with Islam continues. We let them in so I guess it is up to us to assimilate them. Does not matter if they beat up our clergymen or create no go zones. Incite hate and threaten those who speak against Islam.
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at May 17, 2008 10:02 AM
ha ha ha ha ha
They try to make people think in metric and that doesn't work....
The problem is that most europeans want to believe that islam is peaceful but find that the examples of moslems in their neighbourhoods demonstrate quite the opposite.
It is not hatred, bigotry, or lack of education or understanding that that makes people want to expel all moslems, it is the actions of the moslems....
When moslems live peacefully (not pretend to mind) then they will be accepted.
at May 17, 2008 10:14 AM
Sorry, meant "Incite fear and threaten those who speak against Islam."
Posted by: savsiv at May 17, 2008 10:24 AM
"Here again, the responsibility is entirely upon non-Muslims to foster integration.."
exactly! it is always we, who try to work so hard to make integration with Muslims work. THe Muslims neither willingly or peacefully contribute to the integration efforts. Oh, yeah, they immigrate, but only for the purposes of subduing the host country and for the express purpose of domination of their hate filled ideology called Islam... One has only to look at any country where Islam dominates and see their efforts to foster integration of the Christians, Jews and other Non Muslims who live or used to live there.
There are no two way streets in Islam. Trying to get Muslims to integrate into peaceful societies is akin to trying to take food away from a rabid pit bull..it won't work.
Posted by: pulsar182 at May 17, 2008 10:27 AM
Capt. Smith: Telegraph engine room Full Speed Ahead, and keep the helm straight at that iceberg, boy!
Posted by: Hedgehog at May 17, 2008 11:15 AM
Why do these ignorant dhimmis' continue to ignore the locked in stone aspirations of the Islamic Ideology?
There is no integrative collective thought among the practicers of the umma, there is no desire for coexistence among those who live by the teachings of Mohammed,there is no compromise in Islam.
there is only the desire for Islam to rule and subjugate all non Muslims. Multiculturalism is our achilles heel, and they know it and they are exploiting it for all they possibly can.
But the fools we are keep rushing into their parlor of taquiya, and kitman practices because Muslims believe they are already in the dar-al-harb with the West.
Posted by: Mackie at May 17, 2008 11:26 AM
Yes I think the Crusaders of old understood the meaning of integration
Posted by: lonewolf at May 17, 2008 1:09 PM
Integration. I think the Crusaders of Old understood the meaning of integration.
Posted by: lonewolf at May 17, 2008 1:09 PM
In 1934, Adolph Hitler (another totalitarian) told the German people: "Give me your children and I will give you a Thousand Year Reich!" I intepret this to say that if you have the ability to exclusively indoctrinate the children, you can eventually make ANY ideology acceptable. You need only to monitor palestinian children's shows to see Islam understands this and is actively using this method, to advance their ideology.
The world must understand that "tolerance" is a "two-way street". It's immoral that Islam should demand our tolerance, while their ideology institutionalizes intolerance. (Make NO mistake, Islam is NOT a religion, but a totalitarian ideology!)
at May 17, 2008 1:20 PM
They do this all the time in our public schools, too. I forbade my kids from ever competing in Scholastic Art projects, due to the one-sided nature of these poster contests: For example, the topic one year was fighting racism. Well, the kids' own experience on the bus to school was this: Most of their friends were of mixed race, and had no problems with white kids. The kids who said the most racist things were the black kids or the latino kids. At any rate, we don't tolerate any form of race baiting or racism in our house, so when they come home with posters that depict only white racism, it doesn't match their reality. The only racism ever discussed is KKK. And we don't have a local chapter of the Klan here in Lancaster County. But we have plenty of racism among the kids. And the black and Latino kids aren't afraid to exert their racism against my kids who are afraid of them. In fact, the victims, the perpetual victims who cry racism all the time, are themselve most racist.
Posted by: Jewel Atkins at May 17, 2008 3:13 PM
Possibly the most pathetic aspect to all this is that no one in th ewestern democracies seems to realize that non-Muslims doing favors for Muslims does NOT result in non-Muslims receiving any slack from Islam's meting out of brutality and ruthlessness.
Non-Muslims may as well forget about doing any type of favors for Muslims for all the good it does them (which is zero).
Posted by: pythagoras at May 17, 2008 3:17 PM
"where Muslims, Jews and Christians can live together in harmony we must act on the schools and on the children: this is the "recipe" which the EU must apply"
sarcasm on/
Actually, this is a great idea which will assure the defeat of anti infidel islam. The more infidels know the better off they will be to protect themselves.
A primary school in Amsterdam wished to provide its pupils with an understanding for other cultures. But during a visit to a mosque, the children were told they were dogs.
The parents were understandably angry.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=096_1207863743
at May 17, 2008 4:32 PM
Its our responsibility to assimilate the noble savages?
By living in fear and submission while they don't give an inch?
Yeah, it will be us who will be assimilated.
Posted by: sheik yer'mami at May 17, 2008 9:04 PM
The Koran teaches eternal contempt for the "lesser peoples" of the world.
Or, in words that these EU geniuses may understand: it teaches contempt for all non-Muslims.
Until the Koran stops preaching such hatred for all but its own, it has no place being tolerated as anything but a recipe for the suicide of those who do so.
Blindness to the intolerance of others is not broadminded, but mindless.
Posted by: profitsbeard at May 17, 2008 10:28 PM
Oh yes, education is just the ticket. But not the sort of education the Deceivers have in mind - education for submission, the education to teach the non-Muslims to give way to Islam, and Muslims, always, and everywhere, without questioning or resisting.
We Infidels will most certainly keep right on self-educating, and educating others. *We* are educating for RESISTANCE and fully-justified SELF-DEFENCE against an alien, hostile, supremacist ideology which has never, in all its history, taught its followers to live on terms of equality or reciprocity with others.
The resources we use:
Mr Spencer's books and his Blogging the Quran; 'Islam 101' at this very website; and the useful and hard-hitting perspective which is found at Bill Warner's Centre for the Study of Political Islam. The more we see of classical Quran-Sira-Hadith Islam, the better we understand it, the less we like it.
Madame Bat Yeor's oeuvre, for Jews and Christians. As a companion piece, Mark Durie's little handbook 'Revelation? Do Muslims and Christians Worship the Same God?' which sets out, briefly and clearly, the diametrical oppositions between the Biblical and the Islamic account of the divine.
Andrew Bostom's 'Legacy of Jihad' together with 'Legacy of Islamic Anti-Semitism'.
For Indians and Thais, in addition to the accounts of Islam in India provided in Bostom's 'Legacy of Jihad': the relevant works of V S Naipaul, Sita Ram Goel and K S Lal.
On film/digital medium: 'Submission' and 'Fitna' for Infidel teenagers and the soundbite generation; and 'Islam: What the West Needs to Know', for those with a longer attention span, or those who - having been gripped, shocked awake, and alarmed by 'submission' and 'fitna' - are now ready to learn more.
We will not submit.
Muslims need to start hearing the message from the infidel lands - 'shape up {observe our laws} or ship out'.
Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at May 17, 2008 10:36 PM
test
Posted by: skevin at May 17, 2008 11:42 PM
david~ there is a link on the page you posted to this article by Bruce Bawer:
"Eurabia's birth pangs: homosexuals now unsafe in Europe"
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=066_1201620784
Posted by: skevin at May 17, 2008 11:47 PM
Profitsbeard:
"Blindness to the intolerance of others is not broadminded, but mindless."
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Yes.
One could say, "They are so open-minded that their brains fell out..."
or
One could say: tolerating intolerance, in the misguided quest for "tolerance", is... intolerable.
Brings us to Ayn Rand's quote (via the character John Galt, I think) "In any compromise between good and evil, it is only evil that can profit."
at May 18, 2008 12:40 AM
This quote was priceless.
"Mario Mauro, vice-president of the European Parliament, also agreed with the work to be done in the schools: "We must promote education policies which also include religion and help to understand the differences, because the future of Europe depends on how we will integrate"
It seems to me that Mr. Mauro is talking about integrating Europeon children into a new multiculti society where they will be afforded dhimmi status, if the islamic indoctrination of the school system does not take.
Those who have any background in agriculture will realize what happens if you sow crops the way these "leaders" are sowing people.
What is needed is that in each society service organizations should work with immigrants to assimilate them into the broader society. It makes much more sense than trying to assimilate everyone into some multicultural ideological pipe dream that has its only basis in the minds of some deep thinkers divorced from the real world.
at May 18, 2008 12:48 AM
During the controversy about the Archbishop of Canterburys comments on Sharia, it transpired that their was a European Court ruling which establishes that sharia is incompatible with human rights legislation.
I am fascinated to know more about this ruling. Do any lawyers read this blog?
Can they tell us more?
at May 18, 2008 4:32 AM
There is of course plenty that the dhimmis have to learn and understand, Islamophobia is rampant in Europe there the dhimmis don’t even understand the most basic in how to behave and dress to not offend and distress super sensitive muslims.
Netherlands: Complaints about construction workers dress
The heads of a contractor firm working on a large renovation project in Almere were asked last week if the construction workers could change their short pants into something with longer legs. The Muslim neighbors had complained about the workers wearing such bare clothing. …
Oslo police recently released its 2007 Rape Report. The report shows a marked increase in Somali rapists, generally on account of gang rapes. …
Last year a record-high 161 rapes and 35 rape attempts were reported in Oslo. Over 70% of the rapists were non-Norwegian
Somali: But listen now, Norwegian girls complain that foreign boys do this and that, but the reason there are so many rapes is that Norwegian girls go around almost completely naked! That's like saying "come here and fuck me", you understand?
Berlin's 'Döner King'
A native of Turkey, the man has lived in Berlin for 37 years and was described as one of the largest suppliers of meat for Germany's ubiquitous döner kebabs - pitas stuffed with meat shaved off a rotating spit and often drenched in garlicky white sauce.
The man supplied meat to hundreds of döner stands in Berlin alone, authorities said. …
How offensive and cultural misunderstanding of differences can it get. we have to set a new standard i every area so we don't offend.
at May 18, 2008 11:04 AM
re: Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at May 17, 2008 10:36 PM
Add the following to the list of videos:
This two-and-a-half hour presentation manages to investigate the belief system and history of Islam, the development of the Arab-Israel conflict (more accurately the Muslim-Jewish conflict) and 9/11.
Though I would quibble with details such as giving Islam credit for Byzantine architecture and the number zero . . .the film offers a convenient format for overview of a very complicated subject.
at May 18, 2008 11:51 AM
Maybe we SHOULD make assimilation our business! To wit: ENFORCED assimilation.
We didn't go "trolling" in your islamic cesspools and force you to immigrate. You came voluntarily. This implies you wanted to live in a different society and live according to it's laws. You can stay, IF you accept our laws, morals, religions and history.
Your "religion" has no place in our schools, you teach your people about religion in your mosques. And you have no need to build "moslem" schools either. You're free to worship God in your own way, but not to enforce your beliefs on anyone else. That includes your early morning caterwauling, waking up the neighborhood, at "o-dark thirty" every morning! We have laws, called noise reduction laws, we enforce them too! We like our laws and feel NO compunction to change them, just to pander to your "sensibilities". You're the "odd man out" here, WE decide what direction our countries develope.
BTW, your advocating the enforcement of Sharia, via jihad, is TREASON. We execute traitors here and keep an eye on their families, to ensure ALL the traitors have been caught & punished. Also, families here are limited to one husband and ONE wife, plus kids.
These are a few rules you islamic immigrants seem not to understand. If they are not to your liking...TOUGH! You should have researched the country you were immigrating to, a bit more thoroughly. You can assimilate and join the peaceful people of our country, or go back to the theocratic, third world sewer you came from! Have a nice day!
at May 19, 2008 5:54 AM
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