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In February, Hussain and 24 other Muslims joined a statewide lawsuit against Citizenship and Immigration Services and the FBI for what they called unusually lengthy delays in processing their citizenship applications. Some waited as long as five years.''The lawsuit helped my application. I have been waiting so long,'' said Hussain, an Orlando machinist from Iraq. -- from this article
Why is Hussain, a "machinist from Iraq," here in the United States? If he were ever a "refugee" he is a refugee no longer. He has no special skills that are desperately needed in this country. Why isn't he back home, working hard to build the new Iraq? If he is a Shi'a Arab, then Shi'a Arabs have, thanks to the American invasion, inherited Iraq, or at least Baghdad and all points south, including the major oilfields. If he is a Sunni (not everyone named "Hussain" need be a Shi'a) he has all of the area west and north of Baghdad, save where the Kurds now run things.
Why is he here? Is he here because he must be here to avoid persecution? From Muslim countries, the only justified immigration should be that of non-Muslims. They are the ones who have a legitimate case to be here to avoid persecution. Does Hussain, the machinist from Iraq, fully support the American Constitution? Does he even understand its contents? Or is such understanding no longer necessary in order to obtain American citizenship?
Hussain, machinist from Iraq, by his lawsuit demonstrates worrisome bad faith already at this initial stage. For if he thinks "three years and two months" is a long time to wait for the high privilege of becoming an American citizen, and if he dares to start a lawsuit about it, his attitude is entirely the wrong one. Does he really not know how long people wait for citizenship, in this and many other countries? I know people born in Italy, raised in Italy, but who never acquired Italian citizenship. And now, when they return, they have to wait years just for the damned "permesso di soggiorno."
Can this "new American" not understand why it is -- can anyone in his right mind not understand why it is -- that certain background checks might have to be made? Can he not understand why this might have to be done on someone, for god's sake, from Iraq? Is that really all that hard to figure out?
Or why, given all that has happened, and all that is likely to happen, and all that we Americans can see happening in all the countries of Western Europe, is it really all that hard to figure out why such background checks would be needed? In Western Europe, foolishly and with criminal negligence, ruling elites have permitted the large-scale immigration of Muslims. They pose the same problems no matter what Infidel country they end up in. And among all the vast and various groups of immigrants, they present -- they uniquely present -- certain problems that show no signs of going away. They will not go away because they emanate not from "poverty" nor from any other external cause, but rather, from the texts, tenets, attitudes, and atmospherics of Islam.
And those texts and tenets flatly contradict the spirit and letter of the American Constitution, and the American Republic. And this contradiction cannot be ignored. Indeed, it should not be ignored by those whose duty it is to make sure that we do not admit people who are incapable of true and permanent integration with our legal and political institutions, but whose inculcated duty it is to change those political and legal institutions, so that all obstacles to the spread, and dominance, of Islam, are removed. The fact that not all of them will assume or fulfill that duty is slim consolation, for minds can change, and do. Look at Maher Hawash. Look at the Lackawanna Six.
I'm amazed that people such as Hussain, machinist from Iraq, are granted citizenship. One hopes that those in the INS who are permitting such things will be investigated by members of Congress. This can't go on. Not at a high level of immigration, and not at a low level.
Posted by Hugh at May 26, 2008 6:44 AM
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Until the hate rhetoric of most of the Islamic countries and of those violent Muslims already protesting on our streets settles down, no Muslim immigration should be permitted. not one.
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at May 26, 2008 7:33 AM
This case is a symptom of an out of control immigration policy. We do not need the amnesty or so-called comprehensive "reform" that McCain is, once again, scheming to force down our throats. We need a period of three years immigration moratorium during which we sort the current mess out and formulate a set of policies and procedures that serve the national interest and strengthen the country. And it goes without saying that such a policy should include a permanent ban on Muslim immigration.
Posted by: RBLA at May 26, 2008 9:15 AM
There should not be any Muslims immigration at all into the United States. None. It has shown in other countries such as India and European countries,that once a certain threshold is reached in Muslim population we get all sorts of demands for sharia and Islamic institutions. We get high crime and violent behavior towards non Muslims. We get no go areas and sadly Jihadi activity to subvert the laws of the host country and to kill its citizens who are not Muslims. Muslims have a bad track record which I would think is a matter of National Security. Their inspiration comes from the doctrines of the violent and blood thirsty ideology of Islam. It wants to kill everyone who is not a Muslim and wants all constitutions to be Under Sharia law.
Posted by: savsiv at May 26, 2008 9:16 AM
During the Cold War, we used to welcome refugees who fled the Iron Curtian to the freedom of the West. The difference was that they didn't try and turn their host countries into Communist ones or make non stop idiotic demands against their new hosts.
Posted by: Celsius at May 26, 2008 9:33 AM
Since Saddam met his maker, not a single muslim Iraqi should gain citizenship here in the US or any allied western nation. Americans (and their allies) must not suffer the insult/assault of unnecessary/unwarranted muslim immigration compounding the thankless blood and treasure already invested in this albatross. ENOUGH.
Posted by: justamomof4 at May 26, 2008 10:15 AM
Citizenship means exactly nothing to all the actors in this tragic play.
Citizenship means nothing to Muslims, who know by Allah's word that they rightfully own the entire planet already. Muslims know that our immigration laws and our national borders, as just yet more manifestations of infidel laws and societal organization, have no validity, since only Islamic law is to be respected. Muslims know that immigration laws and national borders are just impediments to the spread of Islam to be cleverly circumvented by taqiyya, by kitman, by intimidation (legal and otherwise), by threats of violence, or by real violence, as part of their everyday jihadic duty. Muslims know that their loyalty is owed to the Ummah alone, and not to any infidel entity--such as to the host nation, or to the governing Constitution--save outwardly for deceptive purposes, until their numbers are large enough and they are strong enough to pull off the mask and then force their will on the rest of us. As they deconstruct our civilization from within, Muslims know they are right to do this because they are the Supreme Ones, having the special knowledge and wisdom that only they possess, and that the unsavory, benighted people they seek to dominate are too mean-spirited, dumb, and ingnorant to know what is good for them.
Citizenship means nothing to the leftist, cosmospolitan bureaucrats of government, who know by Marxist theory that global socialism with centralized planning should rightfully control the entire planet. Leftists know that our immigration laws and our national borders, as just yet more manifestations of obsolete Christian-based laws and societal organization, have no validity, since only global, secular law is to be respected. Leftists know that immigration laws and national borders are just impediments to the spread of socialism to be cleverly circumvented by lying, by word games, by intimidation (legal and otherwise), by threats of punishment, or by real punishment, as part of their everyday progressive duty. Leftists know that their loyalty is owed to the global cosmopolitan Community of Man alone, and not to any traditional entity--such as to any nation state, or to a governing Constitution--save outwardly for deceptive purposes, until their numbers are large enough and they are strong enough to pull off the mask and then force their will on the rest of us. As they deconstruct our civilization from within, leftists know they are right to do this because they are the Supreme Ones, having the special knowledge and wisdom that only they possess, and that the unsavory, benighted people they seek to dominate are too mean-spirited, dumb, and ingnorant to know what is good for them.
Citizenship means nothing to the global businessmen, who know by capitalist theory that international markets should rightfully control the entire planet. Global businessmen know that our immigration laws and our national borders, as just yet more manifestations of obsolete economic structures and societal organization, have no validity, since only global, international commerce is to be respected. Global businessmen know that trade laws and national borders are just impediments to free commerce and movement of the labor supply to be cleverly circumvented by lying, by marketing word games, by intimidation (legal and otherwise), by phony economic rewards and punishments (kickbacks and bribes), or by real economic rewards and punishments, as part of their everyday managerial duty. Global businessmen know that their loyalty is owed to the Investors alone, and not to any traditional entity--such as to any nation state, or to a governing Constitution--save outwardly for deceptive purposes, until their numbers are large enough and they are strong enough to pull off the mask and then force their will on the rest of us. As they deconstruct our economy from within, global businessmen know they are right to do this because they are the Supreme Ones, having the special knowledge and wisdom that only they possess, and that the unsavory, benighted people they seek to dominate are too mean-spirited, dumb, and ingnorant to know what is good for them.
I will save the ink and not go through the same exercise with academics, but the same pattern is evident. And the academics, who probably owe the most to our nation for their privileged position in society, are the ones least likely to respect their citizenship, as they collectively preach a disdainful contempt for our civilization at every opportunity while looking down on the rest of us from their dreamy perch on Mount Olympus.
at May 26, 2008 10:19 AM
Perhaps Hussain should apply to settle here in Britain. I promise he'd get a much smoother ride. Apparently, 300 new British Citizenshis are granted every minute here! I'm sure one more is not going to make a jot of difference.
I think the only requirements under this government are that the applicant be a muslim, does not speak English, has no qualifications, has muliple wives, has at least 5 kids with a promise to have more, is devoutly religious, can recite and teach quaran and is not averse to a bit of suicide bombing.
If he fulfills all those requirements, our home secretary will promise to marry him and bear him many kids.
Come to Britain and vote for Nu Labour.
Posted by: Hermit
at May 26, 2008 10:28 AM
Hermit: You've hit the nail on the head! Do you remember the case of the one-legged 'roofer'?
Posted by: Sencit at May 26, 2008 10:59 AM
Hermit,
300 citizenships a minute is 18,000 an hour, 432,000 a day, 157,680,000 a year. Even if we only consider working hours and exclude weekends, we end up with 36,000,000.
This cannot be correct.
Posted by: kgordon at May 26, 2008 11:04 AM
Hermit,
300 citizenships a minute is 18,000 an hour, 432,000 a day, 157,680,000 a year. Even if we only consider working hours and exclude weekends, we end up with 36,000,000.
This cannot be correct.
kgordon
Sincere apologies kgordon.
I meant 1 every 3 minutes.
Even then its a diabolical state of affairs.
I get carried away sometimes.
Thanks for pointing it out.
See here:
See here
at May 26, 2008 12:48 PM
> Why is Hussain, a "machinist from Iraq," here in
> the United States? If he were ever a "refugee" he
> is a refugee no longer. He has no special skills
> that are desperately needed in this country.
There are times, here and then, usually occurring as I am reading bloody communazi tyranny's thigh-stroking rot like that quoted above, when I earnestly cannot wait for the Huns to sack Rome.
Or something like that.
Honestly: You deserve it *so bad* now.
==//==
There was a time when a fellow could get on an prop-engined airplane and travel all around the world, showing nothing but the color of his money. And if some rag gave him a hard time, he'd show them the business end of a M1911, Bogart-style. Oh, but that's too macho for the modern, latte-sipping whipped western world -- us sheep now "need" a bloated Leviathan $53 trillion in debt to post guards at the corners of the nation-wide concentration-camp, er, "gated community".
Posted by: Mike Schneider at May 26, 2008 2:18 PM
Nice piece of tantrum prose there, Mr Schneider. Did you read Hugh's article? I get the impression you missed it.
Posted by: Novalis at May 26, 2008 4:02 PM
He didn't miss it, Novalis. For a while there he was busy bbq-ing and mowing the lawn to show his patriotism on this great holiday, but now he has the time to dispatch Hugh and the rest of us Nazis.
Yes, Mike. We know you're hoping this rotten civilization falls. We deserve it "so bad."
Well, I guess that about decisively refutes Hugh's points.
I just love a good argument.
Posted by: Haid Dasalami at May 26, 2008 6:23 PM
So what's wrong with . . .
"There was a time when a fellow could get on an prop-engined airplane and travel all around the world, showing nothing but the color of his money. And if some rag gave him a hard time, he'd show them the business end of a M1911, Bogart-style."
Posted by: Mike Schneider
Huh?
Key phrase here is " . . . if some rag gave him a hard time . . . "
Not at odds with Hugh's "In Western Europe, foolishly and with criminal negligence, ruling elites have permitted the large-scale immigration of Muslims. They pose the same problems no matter what Infidel country they end up in. And among all the vast and various groups of immigrants, they present -- they uniquely present -- certain problems that show no signs of going away. They will not go away because they emanate not from "poverty" nor from any other external cause, but rather, from the texts, tenets, attitudes, and atmospherics of Islam." (posted by Hugh)
I mean Mike Schneider's way offers a solution to the problem.
Stendec's
"Citizenship means nothing to Muslims, who know by Allah's word that they rightfully own the entire planet already. Muslims know that our immigration laws and our national borders, as just yet more manifestations of infidel laws and societal organization, have no validity, since only Islamic law is to be respected. Muslims know that immigration laws and national borders are just impediments to the spread of Islam to be cleverly circumvented by taqiyya, by kitman, by intimidation (legal and otherwise), by threats of violence, or by real violence, as part of their everyday jihadic duty. Muslims know that their loyalty is owed to the Ummah alone, and not to any infidel entity--such as to the host nation, or to the governing Constitution--save outwardly for deceptive purposes, until their numbers are large enough and they are strong enough to pull off the mask and then force their will on the rest of us."
. . . outlines the crux of the (Islamic) problem.
Hoping that the problem will go away (by not daring to point it out as Mike Schneider does with
" . . . latte-sipping whipped western world -- us sheep now 'need' a bloated Leviathan $53 trillion in debt to post guards at the corners of the nation-wide concentration-camp, er, 'gated community'".
Schneider's " . . . I earnestly cannot wait for the Huns to sack Rome. . . . Or something like that. . . . Honestly: You deserve it *so bad* now."
I interpret as meaning "if we keep on as we have, we deserve what we get." I may be wrong, someone correct me, if I am and you want to spend the time doing so.
The only part of Mike Schneider's comment that puzzles is when he quotes Hugh . . .
"Why is Hussain, a 'machinist from Iraq, 'here in
the United States? If he were ever a 'refugee' he is a refugee no longer. He has no special skills
that are desperately needed in this country."
and says,
"There are times, here and then, usually occurring as I am reading bloody communazi tyranny's thigh-stroking rot like that quoted above, when I earnestly cannot wait for the Huns to sack Rome."
His " . . . bloody communazi tyranny's thigh-stroking rot like that quoted above . . . " makes no sense--to me.
But still . . .
The (Humphrey) Bogart solution, although right now giving rise to screams of outrage from most sides, may (will?) yet be the only one left to solve that problem.
Posted by: unicorns62000 at May 26, 2008 7:56 PM
Hmmm.
Posted by: Haid Dasalami at May 26, 2008 8:19 PM
Why are Muslims not seeking refuge in other countries belonging to the Ummah?
Because the Ummah is a lie? Can a Muslim travel to a member of OIC without a visa? Can he stay without any restrictions?
Posted by: Shahryar at May 26, 2008 9:02 PM
Hugh,
Although I agree en principe with your article, I think we also need to take into consideration that some of these "Husayns" were expelled by Saddam in the Shia uprising after the Gulf War (when they expected Bush I to help them) and ended up in refugee camps in the deserts of northern Saudi Arabia for 10 years until they were allowed to come to the US.
Posted by: ed at May 27, 2008 3:18 AM
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