There's a lot o'that going on, I hear. Gotta stop those Christian Fundamentalists, or else we end up in a theocracy run by canon law!/sarc.

Posted by: John C at June 15, 2008 7:17 PM

The inversion of reality is getting beyond the pale. There is a continual stream of this sort of stuff. I see this in your-face-Orwellian fraud, deceit and lying as proof the leftist/islamist pact is engaged in a massive emergency operations to shore up their corrupt, murderous ideology and project guilt onto the innocent. Next, Red Ken Livingston will explain how Arab Christians are intimidating Muslims throughout the Middle East.
http://www.bravenewsworld.blogspot.com

Posted by: Max Publius at June 15, 2008 7:44 PM

"It's not meant to be shocking or to cause offence and it comes very much from the storyline."

Of course its not meant to offend, because you know that Christians don't get offended by this crap, at least not to the point where they will riot and serve lawsuits to you, calling it hate speech.

Posted by: Jimmy the Dhimmi at June 15, 2008 8:53 PM

yeah sure what a bunch of sorry people. Oh this is sickening. Really a Christian beheading a Muslims My Gosh...honestly! I really do not know who to give a good kick up the behind the Islamic terrorist or these stupid idiotic BBC producers and their reasoning. Yes okay it is entertainment but...if they had portrayed a Muslim beheading a Christian, well we all know what would happen then--mass protest, Islamophobia etc. Hey give it to BBC take the easy route you know you ain't gonna have any Christians accusing BBC of Christianphobia or any threats of killing the producers.

Posted by: savsiv at June 15, 2008 9:26 PM

You realize that this twisted fantasy will only play into the already bloated victim status that they already indulge themselves in.

Posted by: Jewel Atkins at June 15, 2008 9:39 PM

The BBC is also doing a documentary on the nuclear bomb Israel dropped on Iran in 1980. And the BBC is doing a historical play about the Muslim world aiding the Brits against Nazi aggression. Oh, and then a documentary on the greatest nude sculptures in the Middle East. And a wonderful story a female race car driver in Saudi Arabia.
http://www.bravenewsworld.blogspot.com

Posted by: Max Publius at June 15, 2008 10:09 PM

Producer Rhonda Smith said: "It's not meant to be shocking or to cause offence...

Well, then, you've failed.

... and it comes very much from the storyline."

Which is because your story line is a flawed, perverse, inverted distortion of reality.

Posted by: Concerned Citizen at June 15, 2008 10:47 PM

Christianity is insulted yet again, and yet again we do not respond with violence. Why? Because we Christians are a religion of service, sacrifice and love, whereas Muslims are a religion of piety and honour. This is why Christianity is superior to Islam.

As for pathetic secularists, their "religion" is self-fulfillment of the individual. As long as they are being fulfilled in their individual life, they don't give a damn about their children or future generations being enslaved by Shariah law.

Christians must become much more political and assert themselves into the public square or much will be lost.

Posted by: James Martel at June 15, 2008 11:02 PM

I wouldn't mind this stuff so much if there were several dozen episodes of Muslims beheading people while chanting from the coran.

Posted by: Dumbo at June 16, 2008 1:19 AM

Mr. Martel,
What drivel. Put on the martyr crown and get on the pity pot and show us heathens just how morally superior you are.

Posted by: Dumbo at June 16, 2008 1:24 AM

What if people stopped watching television and threw out their television sets. No. Scratch that. Just stop paying BBC Jizyah.

Posted by: Jewel Atkins at June 16, 2008 1:25 AM

When has a 'Christian fundamentalist' ever beheaded a Muslim or anyone with a sword?

And how many times in recent history has the reverse occurred?

Posted by: Sonshine at June 16, 2008 1:45 AM

Unbelievable. Just when you think the BBC can't get any more debased and rotten, it pulls out another vile piece of self-loathing and hateful propaganda. It is poisoning the minds of millions, including people in my own family and circle of friends. I find it excruciating when trying to reason with anyone who swallows whole the authority of the BBC....and it is the nature of TV to suspend and even put an end to critical independent thought. It is a powerful instrument of mind control and it's so tragic to witness the brainwashed uninformed drivel coming from regular viewers of the relentless trash, lies and distortion about Islam that they allow the BBC to inflict on them. I wish some Christian 'fundamentalists' would blow up the BBC television centre and give these hatemongers a run for their money and a reality sandwich.

Posted by: johndoe at June 16, 2008 3:03 AM

There was, long ago, a time when an embattled Christian leader DID behead Muslims.

If the BBC had any wit and guts at all, and wanted to tell a good solid blood-and-thunder story, they would get a decent director and scriptwriter to tell the story of the Siege of Malta, and tell it straight.

NOT the Siege by the Nazis during World War II, though that was a Turning Point, and deservedly gained the entire community of Malta the [St] George Cross for valour.

Not that, but the Great Siege of 1565, when a monstrous Ottoman fleet was sent to take Malta (just as much then as in the 1940s the Key or Gate of the western Mediterranean) from the Knights of St John.

Behind that embattled Gate, and those few Christian Knights (a multi-ethnic multi-lingual force from all over Europe, led by a fierce Frenchman, Jean de Valette - hence the city, today, of Valetta, in Malta), lay the glory of high Renaissance western Europe. Beyond that gate lay the England of the young Queen Elizabeth I, and the infant Shakespeare, but one year old.

The Knights fought with a searing fury. At one point in the battle, after the Turkish Muslims had captured an outlying fortress, and killed and mutilated the knights there and beheaded them and bound them to crosses and set them to float on the current to Malta itself, Jean de Valette responded in kind: he took his Turkish Muslim prisoners, summarily beheaded them, and fired the heads back against the Turks.

Here's a link to an article that gives quite a good popular account of the siege (ignore its final two sentences, which may be safely omitted - they're a perfunctory sop to the 'moral equivalence' crowd).

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-466818/Historys-bloodiest-siege-used-human-heads-cannonballs.html

In the end the Knights were relieved, and what was left of the Ottoman fleet limped off home.

Queen Elizabeth I, I am told, ordered special prayers of thanksgiving recited and church bells rung, all over England. Infant Shakespeare in his nurse's arms would have heard those bells ringing to mark the retreat of a great darkness that might otherwise have devoured him.

If Jean de Valette had not had a fighting spirit that meant, among other things, that he was prepared to behead murderous and barbaric Turkish Muslims, Western Europe, with Shakespeare, and Thomas Tallis, and so much else we can't even begin to calculate, might well have been gobbled up by the insatiable greed and bizarre sadism of the Muslim Ottoman caliphate.

Like Jackson says in the article I linked: "WE OWE THOSE KNIGHTS".

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at June 16, 2008 3:11 AM

We get a lot of such stuff, only thing is, it is the "Extremist or Fundamentalist Hindu" inflicting "atrocities" upon the "patriotic, praying 5-times-a-day religious good muslims". And then the "poor, patriotic,praying 5-times-a-day muslim" falls into the hands of the "muslim extremists". Now some muslim actors are getting their movies financed by the sowdi barbarians and the purpose is spreading lies only.

Note to Indian readers : After the success of jihadi shahrukh khan's Chak De India (story of a "patriotic, praying 5-times-a-day religious muslim" hockey coach who is viewed by suspicion by his neighbors because he is a muslim who leads his team to victory.), jihadi aamir khan is getting out his latest movie. Title is "ghazni". These movies are big-budget affairs, quite unlike the C grade semi-porn ones in which the male lead is muslim whereas the females are all Infidel. Big hit with muslim teenagers. Defiling Infidel women, whether on-screen or in real life, gets one some extra "sabab" and everyone knows that.

Posted by: arjun.sevak at June 16, 2008 3:34 AM

I'm noticing a lot of this nonsense in BBC productions. The 'terrorists' inevitably turn out to be some deep spooks in Special Branch and the Muslim suspects are totally innocent. We recently endured East West 101 television cop show recently in which the Muslims were kind, patient, warm, family-loving, benevolent etc folk while all the non-Muslim people were either hard-hearted careerist bitches or alcholic, or liars or otherwise morally depraved. Talk about reductio ad absurdum...

Posted by: jewcat at June 16, 2008 4:13 AM

And look at the picture max posted see anyone who looks familiar.

Posted by: spcbat at June 16, 2008 6:04 AM

It's just completely unbelievable.

Posted by: darcy at June 16, 2008 8:54 AM

Funny if not so pathetic. British taxpayers'pounds sterling at work with al-BEEB.

Posted by: MP at June 16, 2008 10:01 AM

"Willful blindness" is what they call that.

Posted by: MontJoie at June 16, 2008 10:10 AM

"So, I want you to get up now. I want all of you to get up out of your chairs. I want you to get up right now and go to the window, open it, and stick your head out and yell,

"I'm as mad as hell,
and I'm not going to take this anymore!!"

Howard Beale, Network, 1976

Posted by: ImNoDhimmi at June 16, 2008 10:18 AM

ImNoDhimmi:

Here is..Howard the mad prophet of the airwaves

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dib2-HBsF08

Posted by: johndoe at June 16, 2008 10:35 AM

"The inversion of reality is getting beyond the pale. There is a continual stream of this sort of stuff. I see this in your-face-Orwellian fraud, deceit and lying as proof the leftist/islamist pact is engaged in a massive emergency operations to shore up their corrupt, murderous ideology and project guilt onto the innocent" .....from post above

I believe that in Newspeak, it was called "blackwhite", the willingness to impudently state that black is white, in spite of all historical knowledge to the contrary. Orwell was writing about the stalinists and nazis, but his ideas certainly apply to any totalitarian political philosophy, including two of the most pernicious; islam and multiculturism.

Posted by: Infidel33 at June 16, 2008 10:59 AM

Just when I thought they were beginning to wake up. I used to think that only privatization would cure this cesspool, but now I have changed my mind. Nothing can. The BBC must simply be abolished and all its staff thrown into the unemployment queues. It would be interesting to see who would make it out.

Posted by: Paolo at June 16, 2008 11:58 AM

While this adequately demonstrates how, deluded, demented, and repulsive the establishment elite in media/academia/politics have become, some small good might come of it. Even many Muslims are not so out of touch with reality as to believe that this is happening while they do know that Islamic groups have beheaded infidels. Seeing the reverse has to cause a few of them to say: "Hey, we would find it disturbing and savage if they were really doing that to us."

No single phrase or argument or event will create mass movements towards apostasy. Some events like terrorist attacks and extreme statements at unguarded moments from clerics can be the final straw for some or a first step towards reevaluating their religion for others but for the most part it is a long war of ideas that we are engaged in.

In theory there should be no Islamic apostates. The fear and psychological manipulation that Islam uses is extremely strong and cleverly constructed through 1400 years of trial and error. But from the time of the war of compulsion after Mohammed's death to the present time there have been people trying to leave. Apostates have tools today that they never had before. they can build communities, publish arguments and expose the acts and beliefs of Islamists.

The BBC has hitched their wagon to the dead mules of Islamic theocracy and Marxism.

Posted by: Saul Wall at June 16, 2008 1:50 PM

"Man bites dog" always sells more papers.
http://bravenewsworld.blogspot.com

Posted by: Max Publius at June 16, 2008 3:59 PM

Only to be expected of the BBC which is why it is being increasingly referred to as the B------- Broadcasting Corporation.

This morning (Monday) Andrew Marr who is there absolute Number 1 political man lead a Radio discussion on “Globalisation” which was to include covering “The poisonous fear of Muslims/Islam”. I could not stay to listen but I assume it was our “poisonous fear” he was pontificating about.

These bozos should open their eyes.

Posted by: Fred at June 16, 2008 4:45 PM

The BBC have done more to promote Islamofascism in this country than pretty much any other organisation. And we have to pay a license fee for their anti-west, anti-Christian, anti-white propaganda.

I grew up with a BBC that seemed to have morals and ethics. Now it just seems to be run by zealots intent on destroying the very country and traditions that created it in the first place.

Posted by: DaveMate at June 16, 2008 5:34 PM

Fu** the BBC.

Posted by: traeh at June 17, 2008 12:20 AM

This is the letter I submitted to the BBC Complaint Page. I won't hold my breath looking for a reply.

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I would like to know if the notice (link below) is accurate.

On what planet are Christians beheading Muslims? In what fantasy world does this occur? And yet in the real world, how many times have Muslims beheaded others? (Christians and non.)

I would like an explanation as to why such a slanderous show is being presented to the public. Who are these so-called "Christian zealots"? Whose teachings do they follow? Where are their holy texts that teach them to do such things?

And yet, does the BBC have the courage to present an accurate version of events - Muslims doing the beheading, according to the teachings of their (so called) holy book and their leader, Mohammad? Do you have the courage to do that? To actually portray something that has happened, time and time again?

No. You do not. Why is that? Is it because you know that the most Christians will do is send a letter or call in complaint? Is it because you know that Christians do not believe in threatening people?

I ask you - I DARE you - to do a show portraying a Muslim beheading a Christian. Let's see how courageous you are then. Something tells me the only courage you have is in slandering followers of Christ - who would never do or condone such a vile thing.

My only question is why?

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BBC defends Muslim beheading
Exclusive by Derek Robins - BBC bosses have defended the grisly beheading of a Muslim by a Christian zealot in new drama Bonekickers.

In the bloody scene, ex-EastEnder Paul Nicholls plays a fundamentalist who decapitates a Muslim with a sword.

Producer Rhonda Smith said: "It's not meant to be shocking or to cause offence and it comes very much from the storyline."

http://www.teletext.co.uk/entertainment/news/8316d32d2dcb4334712254e79f46bd80/BBC+defends+Muslim+beheading.aspx

Posted by: Mo at June 17, 2008 10:19 AM

How long before the BBC tries to tell us Zarqawi was a Christian and Ken Bigley was a Muslim?

Posted by: Spirit Of 1683 at June 20, 2008 11:04 AM

Jewcat wrote:

I'm noticing a lot of this nonsense in BBC productions. The 'terrorists' inevitably turn out to be some deep spooks in Special Branch and the Muslim suspects are totally innocent. We recently endured East West 101 television cop show recently in which the Muslims were kind, patient, warm, family-loving, benevolent etc folk while all the non-Muslim people were either hard-hearted careerist bitches or alcholic, or liars or otherwise morally depraved. Talk about reductio ad absurdum...
......................

The BBC does seem to be the worst, but they are not the only purveyors of this ugly idiocy.

There was an episode of the popular crime drama Law & Order SVU last year entitled "Snitch". I realize that drama often turns on a "twist", but this muddled story had so many twists it offered a scenerio that was just completely ludicrous and unbelievable.

(I'm working from memory here, but this should be relatively accurate) The body of a young African girl winds up in the East River. While investigating, our heros discover that she has suffered FGM. At first they think it's some sort of kinky sexual scenario gone wrong, then they learn that the victim had had FGM performed on her by the "aunt" who sponsored her immigration from Nigeria.

Turns out our young victim--only 15--was the newest wife of a Nigerian immigrant, who had two other wives. The first is a blonde American woman, the second another Nigerian. The Nigerian--who is *not* Muslim--had only wanted to help the 15-year-old, who was in danger as a Christian back home. That this might have been accomplished without subjecting her to an under-aged polygamous marriage does not seemed to have occured to this guy. It's also never made clear just who these Nigerian Christians might have been in danger from. Animists, perhaps?

The "aunt" defends FGM as an African cultural practice--the victim, far from being forced to have FGM, had personally wanted it done, and in fact had *saved up for it*. Hubby had not insisted on it at all. FGM, while being somewhat frowned upon, is presented as almost a matriarchal rite, having nothing whatsoever to do with male pressure.

Our heroes do seem a bit put off by the polygamy aspect, but the American wife soon puts them straight, as she lectures them on how screwed up Western marriages are, and how superior her own wedded bliss is by comparison.

The saintly Nigerian guy, who sports an injured arm as a souvenir of some unspecified violence back home, is in danger because he witnessed a drug gang killing. This drug king pin has engaged in witness intimidation before--is that why his child bride was whacked?

One of his many small children shows up wearing a "Stop Snitching" shirt, presumably as a warning to keep quiet.

As if this wasn't already convoluted enough, the guy pushing these "stop snitching" shirts is not an inner-city thug as you might expect, but improbably a kind of irate anti-establishment white hippy.

More absurdity ensues, as the saintly Nigerian wrestles with the varied virtues of protecting society by testifying in court versus protecting his rather extended family.

Cutting to the chase, it was not the drug kingpin who killed the teen bride. It was the other wife--no, not that one--the *American* wife, who was just too jealous and petty to live up to the ideals of the beautiful polygamous marriage she so believed in.

Well, at this point all is well. The saintly Nigerian now conveniantly has only one wife, the others either dead or cooling her heels at the city jail.

All this is not quite as henious as portraying a Christian fanatic beheading a Muslim, but it is pretty grotesque. No wonder most movies these days have sneering upper-crust Brits or corrupt corporate types as the villians.

Hey, they're not going to complain.

Posted by: gravenimage at June 20, 2008 3:01 PM