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The million dollar question here is: Which Koran version/translation was this? Aside from seeing English translations which unconscionably distort in an effort to appear less violent, there are also “abridged” Korans—you know, the ones that end up having little space left for the Medinan verses. At least this is a win for anti-Dhimmitude.
“Residents Angered by Group's Distribution of Korans,” from Fox News, July 2:
Some Houston residents are upset after Korans were left on the doorsteps of hundreds of homes in their neighborhood as part of a campaign to educate people about Islam.Residents of Braes Timbers in southwest Houston began finding the holy books two weeks ago, MyFOXHouston.com reported. The Korans came with a note saying they had been left by the Book of Signs Foundation, which claims to have distributed 30,000 free copies of the texts to residents throughout the city.
"If we went into a Muslim country and left a Bible, we would be in prison and then decapitated a few years later," Sue Ann Pieri, a resident who chose not to destroy the book, as other neighbors did, told MyFOXHouston.com.
A most objective observation; good for you, Sue. Continue reading JW.
The foundation, which left the books on doormats or hanging from doorknobs, said in a note accompanying the Koran that "rather than judging Islam and Muslims by the actions of a few, we want our fellow citizens to judge us by the book that influences and guides the lives of over 1 billion Muslims."Tarick Hussein, the president of Houston's Council on American-Islamic Relations, told the station he believes the Book of Signs Foundation wants to educate non-Muslims about the religion.
He told MyFOXHouston.com: "This is a very peaceful way of conveying a message."
Definitely much more peaceful than driving planes into buildings, to be sure.
Posted by Raymond at July 2, 2008 5:45 PM
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I've always stressed to my kids, that while it is important to listen to what people say, it is essential to watch what they do.
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at July 2, 2008 6:01 PM
I'd actually love a free copy of the Koran, but don't want to bother with one edited for use in the West. What edition is suggested for a non-Arabic speaker?
Posted by: MP at July 2, 2008 6:03 PM
As I mentioned on another thread, someone should sue organisations like the Book of Signs Foundation for distributing ma book that includes incitements to violence against non-believers and Jews.
Posted by: madijihadi at July 2, 2008 6:09 PM
MP-- here are two links where there are multiple translations. The USC one has 3 translations side-by-side. The IslamiCity site has numerous translations in English and other languages.
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/
http://www.islamicity.com/mosque/quran/
It's not the same as a hard copy, which can be handier for quick reference, but along with being free, those sites demonstrate the wide agreement among various translations, which lets the air out of apologists' attempts to write you off for using this or that translation (which can magically become a "bad" one if you're trying to make a point that's critical of Islam).
As for individual translations, there's a bit about that among the frequently asked questions at the "Robert Spencer" link at the top of the page.
Posted by: MarisolJW at July 2, 2008 6:20 PM
Has anybody produced a chronological version of the Koran, from Mecca to Medina?
Posted by: Stephen Gash SIOE England at July 2, 2008 6:29 PM
The question I have is, are the people angry for the right reasons? Are they upset someone left a "religious" book on their porch, or are they upset because the muslims were trying to pull a fast one on them? It is important because they could have just as easily been upset if some Christian group left a copy of the Bible on their porch. And as we all know, there is a MASSIVE difference between the two books. So, are they angry for the right reasons, or just angry?
Posted by: Kevin at July 2, 2008 6:30 PM
MP:
There is also the 'Prophet of Doom' site, which has 5 translations side by side, plus various other texts, such as 'Mein Kampf' and Khomeini's 'Little Green Book':-
http://www.prophetofdoom.net/Qurans.Islam
Posted by: StephenA55 at July 2, 2008 6:31 PM
Doorsteps2doorstops.
Posted by: western infidel at July 2, 2008 6:34 PM
Hey Mohammedans - I know about your evil book.
If I found one on my doormat, or hanging from my doorknob, I'd rip it to shreds, scattering the pieces to the wind, throughout my neighborhood.
Posted by: darcy at July 2, 2008 6:43 PM
"...the book that influences and guides the lives of over 1 billion Muslims."
You mean, over 1 billion brainwashed 'bots?
Posted by: darcy at July 2, 2008 6:48 PM
What boggles me is that they know Infidels are going to read "Kill the Infidels" and "Slay the Unbelievers," etc.. Hello! What do they think we are, stupid?
Posted by: darcy at July 2, 2008 6:52 PM
I'd actually love a free copy of the Koran, but don't want to bother with one edited for use in the West. What edition is suggested for a non-Arabic speaker?
Posted by: MP at July 2, 2008 6:03 PM
http://www.ummah.com/what-is-islam/quran/noble/
This one is free of the bias inherent in translating words that cannot be translated , you have to do a little extra work to find out the meaning of some words.
at July 2, 2008 6:54 PM
So, are they angry for the right reasons, or just angry?
Posted by: Kevin at July 2, 2008 6:30 PM
Right reasons. The Koran is evil. The Mohammedans are trying to take over the world. Mohammed is a false prophet. Islam is Terrorism against all non-Mohammedan peoples.
Right reasons.
at July 2, 2008 6:55 PM
Thanks for getting this article covered. It took me by suprised that there is an effort by a Muslim group to begin with. People should be angry. This is invasive.
Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 at July 2, 2008 7:03 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't infidels forbidden from touching the koran??? Or are the generous koran deliverers expecting everyone to keep a special pair of koran-handling gloves handy?
Posted by: No_Mooselimbs at July 2, 2008 7:17 PM
Here is the site where these Korans came from.
Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 at July 2, 2008 7:19 PM
My friend who received one thanked the group that distributed them. He had been planning to read the Koran but didn't want to pay for it. So he has saved himself $25.
And he gets a good target for shooting practice after he is finished.
Posted by: Mystical Time Traveler at July 2, 2008 7:35 PM
Has anybody produced a chronological version of the Koran, from Mecca to Medina?
Posted by: Stephen Gash SIOE England
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I can help you with that question. There might be others, but the Rodwell version is available online (free) on the Gutenberg Project website.
Try this link: http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/2800
Or this one: http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/3434
Not sure why GP has two copies. Maybe different editions?
Posted by: CJ at July 2, 2008 7:48 PM
Marsiol, StephenA55 and Mr Fitnah. Thanks for the information. Regards, MP
Posted by: MP at July 2, 2008 7:52 PM
I would be horrified to find a Koran left at my front door with a note saying before you judge the "1Billion who are guided by this sick book by the actions of a few"; I would have to remind them that the few speak for the whole, because the many seem to be extremely quite when the few kill many infidels. Islam is and had has always been evil, it is ugly.
Posted by: savsiv at July 2, 2008 8:14 PM
Churchill:
"Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith."
That's what they do. They follow their religious obligation.
Ramming it down your throat, wherever they are.
From the US to Australia, (to Cairns, where we will have the mosque we have to have) to Germany where the mosques are getting bigger than the great domes of the churches, to once great Britain, where the natives flee from Muhammedanism and the corrupt multiculti-government of Brown-sauce, that seeks to replace the indigenous population with a Muhammedan proletariat.
It will get a lot worse before it gets better. But will it?
I'm beginning to have my doubts...
Posted by: sheik yer'mami at July 2, 2008 8:25 PM
And if you threw the Koran away, what would happen to you then?
Posted by: Voltaire at July 2, 2008 8:34 PM
The Book of Signs is a part of the al-Farqaan Foundation headed by some character named Wajahat Sayeed.
What about Mr. Sayeed and his al-Farqaan Foundation's unsavory connections?
From CreepingShariah.com:
Sayeed [founder of BoSF] is also the director of the MLFA (Muslim Legal Fund of America). This fund is a coalition of Islamists including CAIR (Council on American Islamic Relations), named an unindicted co-conspirator in the Holy Land Foundation trial; the MAS (Muslim American Society); and the American Muslim Task Force associated with the far left, such as the ANSWER Coalition. The organization clearly is a mouthpiece for the Holy Land Foundation victimology propaganda and believes among other absurd apologetics that Sami al-Arian is “wrongly accused”… - note - nothing about Muslim responsibility in Islamist-inspired terror. The goal of Al-Furqaan as stated on their website is to put a Qur’an in “every household, hotel room, hospital, college dorm, and retirement home in America”. The translation is endorsed by the toxic Zakir Naik, and his entire Wahhabi-Deobandi proselytizing mission for Islamism (i.e., political Islam).
And that Zakir Naik is a real piece of work in his own right.
Posted by: Dinah Lord at July 2, 2008 9:12 PM
Quote: "And if you threw the Koran away, what would happen to you then?"
- You'd probably get charged with a hate crime and have to spend tens of thousands of dollars on a lawyer, just to get yourself off the hook.
And yes, this is actually a possibility.
Posted by: Rogster at July 2, 2008 9:41 PM
Stephen Gash--
Regarding the chronological order of suras, here's a link (with several more links at the bottom of the page):
http://www.wikiislam.com/wiki/Chronological_Order_of_the_Quran
Posted by: MarisolJW at July 2, 2008 9:48 PM
Couldn't this distribution of Korans be considered the invitation to join the faith prior to an attack? Is my interpretation unreasonable? If I were a lawman in Texas, I would be on my toes from now on.
chsw
Posted by: chsw at July 2, 2008 10:15 PM
So maybe a group of Christians should go into a muslim neighborhood and leave Bibles hanging off the doorknobs. You know, so muslims would understand Christianity and all. And the reaction from the muslims would be......anyone?........
Posted by: cp at July 2, 2008 10:52 PM
Why bother to get mad at all? Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons routinely proseletyze like this. It's certainly better than counquering the place and converting people at sword point.
Posted by: MorrisMinor at July 2, 2008 11:55 PM
The goal of Al-Furqaan as stated on their website is to put a Qur’an in “every household, hotel room, hospital, college dorm, and retirement home in America”. The translation is endorsed by the toxic Zakir Naik, and his entire Wahhabi-Deobandi proselytizing mission for Islamism (i.e., political Islam).
And that Zakir Naik is a real piece of work in his own right.
Posted by: Dinah Lord at July 2, 2008 9:12 PM
I doubt if retirees and sick people would be interested in reading the vitriol and blood-lust that oozes from the satanic qur'an but some of it is downright hilarious, especially the awesome and astounding "scientific" revelations. The qur'an is not as putrid as the hadiths but it is incriminating nonetheless. Muslims should be hiding qur'ans from infidels, not passing them around to prove how beautiful their death cult really is. Unless, of course, the expurgation specialists cleaned them up for infidel consumption.
If muslims think the qur'an exonerates islam, they really are raving lunatics, all of them. The qur'an is a manifesto of pure evil and any decent human being would be utterly appalled and sickened by it.
Posted by: Susanp at July 3, 2008 12:07 AM
Assuming that the translation of the Koran which was distributed was not a doctored one, then I see nothing wrong in distributing it. Every American ought to read the Koran. In fact, reading the Koran should be required for graduation from every high school in the country. Someone should get a copy of this Koran and verify that it is an accepted translation. If it is a doctored translation, then Fox News should report the fraud. If it is not doctored, then everyone should be encouraged to read it from cover to cover.
Posted by: cgoldberg at July 3, 2008 12:36 AM
Hang a Bible neatly in a plastic bag on the doors of Moslims and throw a free Koran on the ground, kind of childess way of doing that, but who knows, what will work.
With a lot of donated Koran's make a Bon Fire on the beach.
Day after day reading of all of the cruelty and watching it, you just want to do something too, feelings might get hurt, but that is too bad.
May be that would give Geert Wilders a good laugh, I gues he can use that now. Him having the guts to start a new movie clip, while already having to live in fear and protection.
Jordan and the rest buz off.
Just a chat with the middle east, no good news, what means for me, can't sleep again.
Would it be nice, if we could say, Okay, you have your religion of Islam, but lets make a deal,all people with the religion of Islam, live there your way of life in the Middle East, so leave the West where you are living now and all the native Christians and foreign Christians, get out of there. Too bad that you have to leave your job, when the West don't have to fork over to the Moslims now, they don't have to do that anymore, so they can help you getting back on your feet in your Homeland.
Let the Middle East and oher Moslims countries help them selves. Bad for the Economy? You want to loose your head for that, be my guest, but stop sending my son over there.
at July 3, 2008 5:14 AM
Personally, I do find it offenive.
This is all part of the Islamization drive to make Islam an everyday part of Western culture - a culture in which Islam does not belong.
Muslim's don't need to become more Western - they will NEVER accept Western values or put Western culture before Islamic norms or their umma.
We need to start rejecting Islam, and stop negotiating with it. Negotiation and appeasement leads to further Islamization... Islam should be banned, period.
Muslims should get the same treatment in our countries as other religons get in theirs. Hence, Islam should be banned in public, only allowed in private and with no peaching allowed - until such time as Islamic states accept FULLY reciporocal equality for all religions in their states.
at July 3, 2008 5:40 AM
Okay - everyone who received a "free" koran.....on the count of three, FLUSH!
Posted by: ImNoDhimmi at July 3, 2008 9:09 AM
chsw
I think you're onto something.
Once the Muslims can consider themselves as having offered you the summons to become a Muslim, and you've shown yourself to be an evil person, ripe for punishment, by saying NO; then they can start in on the attempt to punish you, i.e. to subjugate you, or annihilate you, with a clear conscience.
Here's a passage from the Hadith, showing a clear sequence that starts with presenting the 'message' of Islam, and finishes with full-scale war. Presenting the message is stage 1; if it is refused, the Muslims go to Stage 2, namely, the demand for jizya (OR ELSE); If the wicked kafir defy the threat and refuse to pay jizya, this triggers Stage Three...the Muslims attempt to carry out their threats.
"When you meet your enemies who are polytheists {which, of course, includes Christians, because of the Trinity}, invite them to three courses of action. . . .
Invite them to (accept) Islam;
if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them. . . .
If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizya [the special tax on non-Muslims].
If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands.
If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah's help and fight them" (Sahih Muslim, book 19, no. 4294).
These 'hundreds of households' in Houston, Texas, have been 'invited to accept Islam', through the offer of the Quran.
They have refused, some of them most emphatically.
I anticipate some difficulty for the Muslims, however, in Houston, Texas, if they were to follow the set program as per the Hadith, and proceed to Stage Two, 'Demand Jizya on Pain of Violence'.
Imagine Muslims trying to tell Houston residents that, having rejected the 'invitation' to become Muslim, they should now pay PROTECTION MONEY to their friendly neighbourhood mosque...
After all: unlike the defenceless Christians in Iraq, Houston Texans are very unlikely to view a wannabe Muslim jizya collector/ standover man/ enforcer as anything other than a suitable target for a double-barrelled shotgun blast.
No, Houston residents should be on their guard, because I would guess that some of the Muslims, at least, will now be skipping straight to Stage Three, declaration of Jihad against the obstinate Infidels who have, by saying No to those lovely Qurans, shown themselves to be Enemies of Islam.
Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at July 3, 2008 10:16 AM
You can thank the givers for helping you to desecrate their holy book and by handing it to 'infidels' they are complicit in the desecration. They are very nervous about the 'torture of the grave' thing - this would make them very nervous like shivery little chihuahuas.
Posted by: poetcomic1 at July 3, 2008 11:07 AM
For excellent books that do more than time-line the koran, visit www.cspipublishing.com. For example, AN ABRIDGED KORAN, also tells what was going on in the man's life at the time of that particular visitation. Every non-muslim should read the above book for our survival. tyAC.
at July 3, 2008 1:23 PM
Woo Hoo! Free Toilet Paper!
/Homer Simpson
Posted by: Laughs_at_Silly_Jihadis at July 3, 2008 3:41 PM
On second thought...
The Gideons place Bibles in hotel rooms, hospitals, etc. The Bible is a message of peace, understanding, freedom, love, and deliverance. The Mormons also have their testaments in the same places.
On the other hand, the Koran is a message of hate, intolerance, slavery, misogony, war, violence, racism, terrorism, and barbarism.
I think this is a ploy by the islamists to stop the placement of Bibles and Mormon Testaments in hotel rooms, hospitals, shelters, waiting rooms, etc, to "Make room for Mohammed" and his epileptic, sputtering rants.
/gack.
Posted by: Laughs_at_Silly_Jihadis at July 3, 2008 4:01 PM
Everyone, I'd welcome a free book, too. Although, I have to admit that I already own paperback versions of Dahood's and Yousef Ali's translations of the Qu'ran. I'd also accept a free copy of the Book of Mormon, even though I think that Joseph Smith and Brigham Young were two of the biggest snake oil men since Muhammad.
CP, there are at least a few ex-Muslims in Christian churches who trace their conversions to Gideon Bibles or other such freebies.
Posted by: Kepha at July 5, 2008 6:39 AM
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