Well I guess it is okay to have children wearing a ammo belt, holding grenades and an rifle in the hand with the word Jihad on their head. I do not know weather this is a matter of civility or racism. If do not like spicy food you do not like it. I mean the last time I heard Indian cuisine(which is spicy or can be made depending on the palate) is popular in England and that this has to be a Islamic Sharia thing to shut down all criticism and valid examination of Sharia and Islamic ideology. Instead they have literally taken control of British society and shut it down. It has made Islam and Sharia a protected class at the expense of all others.

Posted by: savsiv at July 8, 2008 11:32 AM

After reading the article in the Telegraph, one comment in particular caught my eye:
"Some people in Britain seem to be just as mad as us in Germany. Some months ago an elementary school boy was punished by his headmaster in the Hanover area for sharing some sausages with a classmate who happened to be a Muslim. It turned out to that the sausages had contained some pork so that the Muslim boys parents issued a complaint. How is a child at such a young age supposed to know that Muslims do not eat pork? It's just insane that he was punished for his friendliness"
What in the world is occuring in Europe??

Posted by: Ladywolfnl at July 8, 2008 11:38 AM

Insane. These are acquired tastes.

If a child eschews Stilton cheese, black pudding, or bangers and mash, will they be branded anti-British?

Posted by: MarisolJW at July 8, 2008 11:41 AM

They will not eat them with a duck, all they have to say is yuck.
Little racists they must be, they will not try our food you see.
They do not like green eggs and ham,
quick, call up the head imam.

Apologies to Dr. Seuss

Posted by: Shakey_Premise at July 8, 2008 12:11 PM

I'm with Marisol.

Physiological fact is trumped by PC crap.

Posted by: undaunted at July 8, 2008 12:14 PM

What if a black British tot dislikes spicy food? Racist? And against what race would that be...?

I never had so much spicy food as when I was in London, and that was >20 years ago. Oh yeah, that was Indian food, and they weren't muslim.

Posted by: CapitalistGig at July 8, 2008 12:16 PM

Most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. The PC leftard world is coming completely unglued. Mental disorder take on a whole new meaning.

Posted by: Sounder at July 8, 2008 12:56 PM

Comment #285 after the article, from "Ben Williams":

"I take it then that Muslim toddlers who turn their noses up at bacon will be equally classed as racist?"

No, Mr. Williams. If a Muslim toddler turns his nose up at bacon, he is NOT racist, he is simply devoutly religious.

However, if you're a kid from Germany who offers a Muslim classmate a sausage, you're an inconsiderate, racist* bigot, who should be punished.

* No, I don't know what race Islam is, either.

Posted by: Lori B. at July 8, 2008 12:58 PM

Actually, Asian, er Paki food, is not spicy, or at least less spicy than Indian food is - when was the last time anyone had spicy Mughlai chicken? Even their biryani and kebabs are non spicy, unlike their Indian versions. In India itself, food gets spicier as one goes southward, towards the parts that have fewer Mohammedans per square mile. At the other end, the world's spiciest food is Indonesian, but somehow, I doubt that Indonesian food was what the National Children's Bureau had in mind.

How about serving spicy pork sausages to those poor jilbabi darlings? If they complain, book them on grounds of racism and even better, accuse them of Islamophobia. After all, what goes around....

Anyway, it's nice to know that Islamophobia can be started at such an early age. Catch them young, as they say.

Posted by: Infidel Pride at July 8, 2008 1:10 PM

Whomever contributed to this useless but costly 366 page "guide" should be sacked.

Ain't multiculturalism grand?

Posted by: awake at July 8, 2008 1:27 PM

Orwell was British.

He wasn't stupid.

Who do you think he was observing, but the parents and grandparents of the current generation of Brits?

Welcome to the world of 1984.

It's all coming true.

Posted by: joeblough at July 8, 2008 1:36 PM

Send your children to a Church run pre-school, if you can't parent your own children.

Remember, this is the stuff that actually gets into the news. We don't hear about the new age teacher telling the kids that they "are gods" or the atheist teacher who says, "God is just made up."

If you think I am paranoid, ask the kids what they say for "grace" at pre-schools. It is often, "Ohhhh ... the Earth is good to me, and so I thank the Earth." The word God is replaced with Earth, thereby making the song neo-pagan.

Protect your kids folks from PC run amok and other stuff you don't want. See www.lifesite.ca for examples of this movement to indoctrinate children into a non-Christian worldview.

Posted by: James Martel at July 8, 2008 1:43 PM

VERY interesting comments, but to sum up with a twist, If a child doesn't like ham, bacon or pork chops, then that makes them a racist?

OK, I get the "blackie" and the like comments, if a child calls someone else a "kaffer" that should count too shouldn't it?

Like witch trials of old, that kinda petered out when the accused started fingering people in authority when pressed for additional names; Same with these idiot requirements - use them against those who wanted them in the first place. Just as our open societies have been turned against us, why not turn these requriements on their ear? If one child says spicy food is "yucky" then it stands to reason a child who eats spicy food and says bland foods are "yucky" is obviously a racists and his/her parents should be treated as same ;-)

Posted by: RecycledCG at July 8, 2008 1:53 PM

About 5 years ago I was talking to a salesman in a large and almost deserted showroom when my late wife who was standing about 20' away called out;

"You naughty boy! Fred this boy has just punched me in the stomach!".

When I turned around I saw an "Asian" child of about 6 years old being pulled away by his brother(?) who was about 9, so her stomach was about as high as he could reach. We could not see their parents and were too shocked and embarrassed anyway and I would say this did not happen in an "Asian" area. When I told a work colleague the following day she said she and others had similar experiences when living an "Asian" area of Yorkshire. In her case a 10 year old had asked her the time before punching her in the chest and running away.

Does anyone know a UK government sponsored agency that reports "Asian" children who punch middle aged women?

No point in writing to "The National Childrens Bureau" as they would only tell us it was our own fault, the result of "Asians" social deprivation and the fact that we were racist.

Posted by: Fred at July 8, 2008 2:06 PM

Make your feelings known..here is the National Children's Bureau contacts page from their website...

http://www.ncb.org.uk/Page.asp?originx4262pi_72674772502512n5z9052761316

These people should be interviewed on TV so we can all have a laugh...

Posted by: MrTommyAtkins at July 8, 2008 2:12 PM

Tommy:
I looked at the NCB Organizational Chart, and the administrator who seems to be the one to write to is Gill Frances, Director of Well-Being (including Personal, Social, Health & Economic education).

But before you think that she will be sympathetic to logical thought, check out her staff bio (below).

It's kinda ironic that she wrote a book called "Say No To Abstinence Education," and is identified in the next paragraph as the chair of the Teenage Pregnancy Independent Advisory Group ... nothing like making sure you stay in business!

***********

GILL FRANCES is director of Well-being at the National Children's Bureau a post she took in 2001. She has long experience advocating for all children and young people's entitlement to personal, social and health education and citizenship. She has written widely on most aspects of PSHE including Say No to Abstinence Education (NCB 2004) and Childhood Bereavement: Support for children and young people in school (NCB 2004).

Gill is chair of the Teenage Pregnancy Independent Advisory Group, a member of the Children Young People and Families Stakeholders Board and a council member of the Association for Citizenship Teaching.

Posted by: Lori B. at July 8, 2008 3:22 PM

"Toddlers who dislike spicy food 'racist"
BULLCRAP A TODDLER HAS KNOW IDEA WHAT RACE EVEN IS
"This could include a child of as young as three who says "yuk" in response to being served unfamiliar foreign food.
KID KNOW WHAT THEY LIKE TO EAT THERE WERE SPICY FOODS I DID NOT LIKE AS A KID I GREW TO LIKE LATER ON IMO THE NCB IS NUTS SIGH IT LOOKS LIKE THE NUTCASES AKA THE PC IDIOTS ARE IN CHARGE OF THE NUT HOUSE NOW

The guidance by the NCB is designed to draw attention to potentially-racist attitudes in youngsters from a young age.

It alerts playgroup leaders that even babies can not be ignored in the drive to root out prejudice as they can "recognise different people in their lives".
SO WHAT THEY HAVE NO IDEA THEY ARE DEFERENT MY BABY SITTER WHEN I WAS 3 WAS A NATIVE INDIAN AND I DID NOT LIKE THE FISH OIL SHE DIPPED HER FOOD IN BUT THAT DID NOT SHOW RACISM THE IDEA THAT A CHILD SAYING YUK IS A SIGN OF RACISIM IS UTTER BS
HECK MY SISTERS 2 BOYS A 1/4 BLACK FOOT AND MY WIFE IS 1/4 JEWISH AND 1/4 CHERROKE SO I CAN ONLY CONCLUDE THAT NBCS IDIA THAT YOU CAN TELL IF A CHILD IS RACIST IS THE SIGN OF A PC MORRON

Posted by: ISLAMSNOTFORME at July 8, 2008 4:10 PM

Well first I checked the URL to make sure I wasn't on The Onion.

Then I checked the calendar to make sure it wasn't April 1st.

Then I followed the link to The Telegraph to make sure Robert wasn't 'making stuff up'.

The idea that care givers have a 366-page government manual on child care is bad enough, but to compound it with guidance on racial matters vis a vis toddlers with narrow food preferences, makes me think that Britain has truly gone mad.

The fact that this sort of thing was put to print is proof enough for me.

Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses at July 8, 2008 4:25 PM

Welcome to human nature, 101.

Kids being totally honest is a crime now, huh? More likely this is designed by Muslims to train teeny-tiny non-Muslims where their place will be in society, now that Muslims are running the show in formerly jolly Old England. No thinking is allowed, no rebuttal, no response; just subjugation to the will of "Allah" or whatever creepy pedophiliac leader is currently in charge.

If they really want to be effective, a stern first warning with a follow up cliteridectomy with no anesthesia in front of the whole class would probably do the trick, in keeping with the whole terror-as-a-motivator idea.

Posted by: Isabellathecrusader at July 8, 2008 4:41 PM

Great Britain has become the United Kaliphate

Posted by: allahlovesporkchops at July 8, 2008 5:15 PM

I gave my son ice cream when he was 18 months old. Because it was so cold, he spit it out and cried. I gave my son spaghetti, and rather than eat it he played with it, threw it on the floor and on the wall.

I guess he's a racist.

/geeze oh petes already!!!!!

Posted by: Laughs_at_Silly_Jihadis at July 8, 2008 5:49 PM

I like their food. It's the rest of their culture that makes me sick.

Posted by: MP at July 8, 2008 6:16 PM

Will the "Asian" children be introduced to the joys of bacon?

Posted by: MP at July 8, 2008 6:18 PM

The guide goes on to warn that children might also "react negatively to a culinary tradition other than their own by saying 'yuk'".

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I'm waiting to see if nursery schools will be serving moslem kids bangers and mash! Or maybe a nice Wienerschnitzel! And how about some BBQ!

To those foods I say YUMMMMM!!!

Posted by: Ummah Gummah at July 8, 2008 6:22 PM

George Bush the elder didn't like broccoli. Whom is he racist against? And he heaved up Japanese food on the Japanese Prime Minister's leg. Is he racist toward Japanese?

Posted by: Ummah Gummah at July 8, 2008 6:39 PM

WHAT? You've got to be kidding?!!

Who could know that Mighty Old England would become such a cosmic joke - joke - in the early 21st century?

Posted by: darcy at July 8, 2008 6:52 PM

This must be a joke.Will the last one here please wave the white flag.

Posted by: grgy at July 8, 2008 6:54 PM

This must be a joke.Will the last one here please wave the white flag.

Posted by: grgy at July 8, 2008 6:55 PM

This is perfectly ridiculous.

Children 5 and under eat what they want to eat and what they won't - they won't. I know. I have raised four, and many a not-wanted meal finished up in the hair, all over the high chair, and on the floor.

If the stupid Thought Police, hoping to find Evil Racists, visit the homes of the three-year-olds who spit out curry, they may well find that in fact Mum loves nothing better than Tom Yum soup sizzling with chilli and that Dad cooks a mean curry. Kids don't always like the same stuff as their parents do. Common sense.

The Thought Police need some egg on their faces.

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at July 8, 2008 8:32 PM

The Thought police have had a few pints.. too many.. LOL

Posted by: Ummah Gummah at July 8, 2008 8:41 PM

I have earthworms in my garden with more spine and intelligence than the leaders [NOT !!!] in charge at the National Children's Bureau.

How are we going to classify children, or any other age group, that refuse, or display reluctance, to eat any given food item. For example I like calamari but the rest of my family does not. Should I have them arrested by the PC police? Am I subject to prosecution because I prefer not to eat lobster? What will we do with people that absolutely refuse to eat chocolate covered grasshoppers[locusts]?

Where, if at all, does this madness stop?

Posted by: getrealnow4 at July 8, 2008 9:43 PM

I'd like to extend an invitation to dinner to the authors of the guide. They can set an example of non-racist attitudes for 5-year-olds everywhere when they eat (with open-minded gusto) the various ethnic dishes on the menu that night: Rocky Mountain oysters, maggot cheese, snake wine, stuffed baked oppossum, haggis, ...

Posted by: CJ at July 9, 2008 12:15 AM

I loved this guys comment in response to the article:
4. Posted by Michael on July 08, 2008 09:51 PM
My dog doesn't like spicey food either. I am glad he is nuetered so the hate can stop with him.

This just shows how the UK is lost. 1%, 2%, 3%...we are seeing how the Trojan Horse works in slow motion. I just wish it were revealed to more peoples eyes.

Remember my mantra, "Spread the Word"? I tried to spread the word that jihad is here in a chat box on a pornstar's website. Who knew there would be liberals there? It didn't go over big. I thought about linking JW on my favorite classic car forum, but I moderated my own post before I made it. I'm not anonymous there and this is perhaps best accomplished one person at a time for me for me.

I did reach one person this week with the word. And it's only Tuesday. It was a friend at work, a man who fled from Viet Nam, deciding to become a refugee rather than stay. He's someone I find interesting to talk politics with at work (yikes). Knocked out his engineering degree at the same time as he was learning to better his english. Don't be dissing my boat person buddy. So this guy was in my office and wondering out load, not real loud - my office is accross the hall from two Muslim engineers - why it is that we are seeing a rise in Muslim activity in this country. I grabbed a post-it and wrote down the URL for JW and handed it to him. I told him if he wanted the key to the information that would answer all of the questions he had that was it.

He actually expressed some fear about going to the website. He thought that the government might be monitoring people's web browsing (he may not be far wrong) and someone might knock on his door if he visited JW. Remember he was reared in a communist country. I had to remind him a few things about liberty and freedom and the Constitution. I think I'll bug him some more about strapping them on and reading up tomorrow.

This Viet Namese buddy of mine rocks. Vijay Kumar looks like a benefit to this country too. Why can't more immigration be like that?

Posted by: Richard at July 9, 2008 12:37 AM

The indoctrination begins early in the U.K. and I'm sure it's a one-way operation aimed at white, indigenous children. All these idiots are doing is magnifying the cultural differences that exist between the numerous and distinct ethnic/religious groups in the U.K. What is this supposed to accomplish? Everyone is presumably British, right? These fools are instilling racism in innocent babes, not nipping it in the bud. Why in the hell can't they focus on mutual similarities instead of forcing exotic culinary experiences on babies? Why can't indigenous British children remain a distinct and separate ethnic group in their own country, a country that worships separatism (multiculturalism). You're either united or you're Balkanized; what's it gonna be? Are the natives supposed to morph into a brand new cultural group, a lovely conglomeration of the assorted immigrant cultures that totally excludes native British culture? That must be the plan.

I happen to find some cultures more enticing than others, some are repugnant. Islam is the most repugnant---absolutely sickening. Children may be naive and inexperienced but they are intuitive and refreshingly honest. If something stinks, they're the first to notice and the first to announce it. This stinks.

I'm glad my ancestors left Scotland and came to the U.S. in the 1700's. I'd hate to be stuck in this Orwellian nightmare. The kids will grow up hating the people that eat the yukky food and wear the weird clothes. The liberal, PC crowd is so unbelievably stupid but from what I've read and heard, the EU agenda is stupefying and national identity will be the first casualty of the Lisbon Treaty. To call the eurocrat agenda "radical" is an understatement. It appears to me that the pompous, unelected eurocrats are creating the perfect storm, the very scenario the EU was created to prevent. But like the despicable UN, the EU has outgrown its mission, or forgotten it altogether.

Posted by: Susanp at July 9, 2008 1:14 AM

This stuff coming out of the good ol' UK just keeps getting better and better.
A country that is in free-fall and has completely lost its way - populated by a majority of moral cowards - what a disaster and like myself all the "quality " people have or will leave just leaving the rest of these moral cowards to stew in the cesspit of their own making

Posted by: johnmacII at July 9, 2008 5:10 AM

Racism is the new McCarthyism.

Ironically, with racism it is the Communists - who have infiltrated many of our institutions (including government) - who are the hunters rather than the hunted. Perhaps they're just getting their own back. I guess the fact that I am accusing the Communists of conducting a witch-hunt for racists makes me guilty of McCarthyism.

Anyway, some kind of mass hysteria has descended in the UK with regards to alleged racism to the extent that the police have set up dedicated teams to handle so-called "hate" crimes - one of which being racism.

We now have the quite farcical situation where an incident is deemed racist if either the victim or anyone else declares it to be so.

So much for objectivity.

Posted by: watling at July 9, 2008 7:23 AM

"It alerts playgroup leaders that even babies can not be ignored in the drive to root out prejudice as they can "recognise different people in their lives"."

So... If a baby cries whenever he sees the man who likes to grease him up and "thigh" him, that baby is a racist?

Filthy people, filthy "customs", filthy laws.

"Bigot" is the word these cretins want, not "racist", but I guess it's too much work to try to be right and important at the same time.

No, I'm wrong. "Racist" is the word they want to use, when infiltrating and subverting cultures that find racism unacceptable. (I'm still on my first cup.)

Posted by: Abscedere at July 9, 2008 9:20 AM

johnmac -
'A country that is in free-fall and has completely lost its way - populated by a majority of moral cowards - what a disaster and like myself all the "quality " people have or will leave just leaving the rest of these moral cowards to stew in the cesspit of their own making'

As I am a moral coward by your definition, living in England, perhaps you as a 'quality' person could tell me how I too could become superior? By running away like you?

On the main point: I have noticed media reports fairly recently about the 'need' for more curry chefs being touted as a reason for shipping in even more Asian migrants to fill the vacancies in 'Indian' restaurants. Absolute nonsense, there are many unemployed Asians and others here already who can be trained to cook. If there is a genuine shortage, which I doubt, then surely it is time to retrain some of those welfare spongers.

As a 'racist' spiceophile who dislikes 'Halal' butchery practices, please, Indian restaurateurs, advertise your origins clearly, as at present more than half of 'Indian' restaurants in the uk are actually Pakistani or Bangladeshi, and it would be nice to know which is which so that I can support the ones that are non-Islamic.

Posted by: StephenA55 at July 9, 2008 10:29 AM

Watling - "Racism is the new McCarthyism".

Brilliantly put. It is the new hysteria.

Posted by: carpediadem at July 9, 2008 11:16 AM

Right thinking play leaders and nursery teachers could use this regulation to subtly turn the tables on both Muslims and the PC thought police. How?

Give the children ham sandwiches. When the Muslim children refuse to eat and their parents complain: cite them for having racism!

Posted by: Provoslavni at July 9, 2008 11:24 AM

Someone pointed out to me the similarities between NCB's demand of 'reporting parents for their child's potential for being some sort of subliminal (food) racist', and the Nazi's and Stasi demanding people report their families and friends for possible and imagined crimes against the regime(s). The UK is swirling, headlong and blind, down the tube. Last one out of the loo, please turn out the light.

Posted by: allahlovesporkchops at July 9, 2008 12:42 PM

Authoritarianism at it's finest. Catch them early before age 5 with a series of Pavlovian response devices designed to ensure lock step loyalty toward whatever concepts follow. Wonder what those might be? Who really thought they could out do the police dog-boots story within a week?

Posted by: We need G.C. Scott at July 9, 2008 10:48 PM

The guide goes on to warn that children might also "react negatively to a culinary tradition other than their own by saying 'yuk'".
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Well, duh. Not only do most very small children dislike spicy food, but many toddlers react to almost *anything* new in this manner.

I'm a vegetarian. I would certainly not find it offensive for a two-year-old to consider tofu icky, or to say "yuk" to broccoli. One time when I was taking care of my small nieces and nephews, I found that all they would eat was macaroni and cheese and tofu hot dogs--nothing green at all. My response? I was just glad that I had *something* in the house that they would eat.

Ladywolfnl wrote:

"Some people in Britain seem to be just as mad as us in Germany. Some months ago an elementary school boy was punished by his headmaster in the Hanover area for sharing some sausages with a classmate who happened to be a Muslim. It turned out to that the sausages had contained some pork so that the Muslim boys parents issued a complaint. How is a child at such a young age supposed to know that Muslims do not eat pork? It's just insane that he was punished for his friendliness"
........................

Absolutely. I would not hold it against this little boy that he shared his lunch with my child--I would be glad he was such a good friend. Somehow I would find it difficult to imagine that a Jewish fanily would react in this way, even though they also have a dietary ban on pork.

Marisol wrote:

Insane. These are acquired tastes.

If a child eschews Stilton cheese, black pudding, or bangers and mash, will they be branded anti-British?
.........................

Hah! You can add Toad-in-the-Hole, mushy peas, parkin, kippers, bovril, weak tea, beans on toast, treacle tarts, bubble-and-squeak, star-gazey pie (made with fish heads!), haggis, and my husband's favorite (from his stay at Oxford) digestive biscuits.

I get to poke fun at British food, as me Mum is from Herefordshire . . .

Posted by: gravenimage at July 10, 2008 1:05 AM

Don't forget spotted dick, pease pudding, Bedfordshire clangers, Cornish pasties, cock-a-leekie soup, stovies, bridies, Irn Bru, HP sauce, dumplings, Marmite, Welsh rarebit, to name but a few.

Posted by: watling at July 10, 2008 5:55 AM

As stupid as this may see,I'd like to read the whole report. It seems teh reaction to this is worse than the problem. Rush Limbo threw his superficial two cents in on this yesterday then threw in the now 20 year old incident of the way the word "niggardly" upset some people in DC. Feel upset and paranoid, the thought police are coming!

Posted by: Dumbo at July 10, 2008 11:09 PM