Wonder how much of those "donations" are being directed to Mr. Sarkozy's Swiss bank account?

Posted by: Kevin at July 16, 2008 5:26 PM

No statues, of course. Mohammed didn't like them.

Posted by: tanstaafl at July 16, 2008 5:32 PM

Probably all of Saudi Prince Al Walid bin Talal's donation of 17m euros.

For someone to blatantly declare that "Islam is progress, science, finesse, modernity" surely is being paid off.

Good-bye, France.

Posted by: boneshack at July 16, 2008 5:33 PM

"France is a friend of Arab countries," said Sarkozy. "France wants peace,"

Well there's a surprise.
Did he wave a bit of paper saying peace in our time?

This is a French right winger, Britain had better start rearming again, to bail them out of their own folly, again.

Posted by: Ian at July 16, 2008 5:45 PM

"Islam is progress, science, finesse, modernity"

That's news to me. What planet is Sarkozy living on? He is a shameful and corrupt scoundrel. He represents the Jew hating heart of France. And he's dragging his country back down into the abyss.

Posted by: johndoe at July 16, 2008 5:45 PM

And he's dragging his country back down into the abyss.Posted by: johndoe at July 16, 2008 5:45 PM

Assuming of course that France has ever been out of the abyss.lol

Posted by: Kevin at July 16, 2008 6:23 PM

Sarkozy is a lunatic. France will not survive his presidency as an independent state.

Posted by: Osmund Bindalen at July 16, 2008 6:30 PM

I can't wait until the visiting mohammedans begin rampaging throught the Louvre, destroying all art that is considered un-islamic. Au revior, madamoiselle Mona Lisa, and uh, pardon my french.

Posted by: No More Ham, Ed at July 16, 2008 7:57 PM

How does this square with Sarkozy's comments to the Swedish Prime Minister that there are too many muslims in Europe?

Posted by: Stephen Gash SIOE England at July 16, 2008 8:11 PM

A previous article on Nicolas Sarkozy, husband to Carla Bruni and leader, I am told, of France:

Fitzgerald: Sarkozy: Curb your enthusiasm

Some previous curb-your-enthusiasm posts (lightly edited for clarity) about Sarkozy, who nonetheless is much better than any of the others, save Philippe de Villiers, whose time may well come:

1.

Here's a fine how-de-doo. Sarkozy, on whom so many hopes were placed, comes down on the side of equality of outcome, and does not dare touch the subject that needs to be touched: what is it about Islam that explains subpar economic performance, even in the Muslim lands that have no excuse, for they have received nearly $10 trillion dollars over the past 34 years and have failed everywhere to create the semblance of a modern economy. Nor does he dare touch on what explains the dismal performance of Muslim immigrants, compared to other non-Muslim immigrants -- Hindus, Vietnamese Buddhists and Christians, Chinese -- all over Europe. What is it about Islam that stands a permanent obstacle to integration with Infidels? Could it be, might it be, the very attitudes of hostility and even murderous hatred that one can find set out in Qur'anic passages, in Hadith stories, in details of the life of Muhammad set out in the Sira? No, none of that for Sarkozy.

And what a surprise to see the deplorable Dominique de Villepin stand up for -- well, essentially, for the grandes ecoles, and the meritocracy of examinations, and Long live the khagne! Long live the agregation! For if that goes, then the entire cult of intelligence and merit goes with it. And even though there are plenty of reasons to deplore the recent examples of graduates of ENA and suchlike, the destruction of the examination system, and the obstacle course set up in its place, would be the last nail in the coffin of Jules Ferry and la carriere ouverte aux talents, as well as of the cartable for the little ones, and the cahier, and the cahier de vacances, and the bac, and everything that is left to which even D. de V. sees has its points.

But he, too, does not dare explain what it is about Islam that stunts mental growth, or that prevents genuine integration of Muslims in a society where they do not receive what they regard as their due -- that due being, in the end, the modification over time of that Infidel society to accommodate Muslim demands at every level, until, as has happened everywhere that Muslims become a majority or a too-powerful minority, Islam comes to dominate and Muslims rule. It does not always take place through outright military conquest. See the East Indies, where traders from the Hadramaut settled in Java, and one thing led to another, with the results that can be observed.

[Posted by: Hugh at November 26, 2005 07:26 PM]

2.

Le Pen is disreputable in a hundred collaborationist, poujadist ways. Philippe De Villiers is fine, far more perceptive than Sarkozy, in whom so many (possibly misplaced) hopes have been placed. Some lepenistes apparently believe that Philippe De Villiers is doing Chirac's work for him, but this is never quite explained, since Chirac will soon be out of office, trying to stay out of jail.

It is Le Pen who has been inconsistent. He stood stoutly by Saddam Hussein, and appears to find the Muslim Arabs perfectly acceptable in the conduct of their Lesser Jihad against Israel, possibly a reflection of his most unsavory aspect. The best thing that could happen now for the emergence of a sensible anti-Islam movement in France would be the disappearance of Le Pen, and those of his supporters who supported him slightly or very unwillingly, malgre eux, can turn their attention, and support, to Philippe De Villiers, to give him power that he can trade on.

[Posted by: Hugh at October 28, 2006 1:08 AM]

3.

Sarkozy is good, but Philippe de Villiers is better. One hopes that Sarkozy will not engage in any idiotic "reaching out" to the "youths" in the "banlieues," but instead will make sure that they know that a different view of things now prevails, and the nonsense of the past will no longer be tolerated. Sarkozy was very good on television with the sinister Tariq Ramadan (for whom the jig is up in France, and in Switzerland, which is why he moved on to a temporary post in England, and hopes to take his show on the road to credulous America, where willfully naive Scott Appleby and Notre Dame still await him -- or so he devoutly believes).

Sarkozy has spoken in the past about the possibility of "integrating" the Muslims of France, and has even suggested the desirability of special programs to favor them in employment and with a kind of affirmative action in the schools. He still doesn't realize that teaching Believers French, teaching them about French culture, will not make them any better able to accept Infidel institutions, or make them necessarily loyal to the Infidel nation-state of France, but will assuredly provide many with the tools to better conduct Da'wa, to better promote their own, Muslim, aims. Such courses will be akin to those KGB schools for spies, where the spies were taught the languages and cultures of the West -- but still remained loyal to the Soviet system. Putin, for example, knows German perfectly. He knew exactly how to fit in to East Germany (and there were other KGB agents like him in what was then West Germany). But those KGB agents were not "integrated" into the West, though they were living in that West, and had been taught all about it.

Sarkozy must be very careful. And not hesitate to turn that ship of state completely around so that it rises higher in the water. The motto of the city of Paris, quondam Lutetia -- fluctuat nec mergitur (it bobs up and down on the waves, but doesn't sink, as if Paris were a bar of Ivory soap) just will not do, not for Paris, and not for France.

"Not sinking" isn't enough of a goal. Nor will the faith in making France "prosperous" again sufficient. The Muslim presence is, of course, an enormous economic weight, and drain on the welfare state. But more importantly, it is a great political, social, civilizational weight, a general demoralizer for those who see the problem, and those who perform the mental equivalent of salti mortali in order not to see it.

Sarkozy can help to disabuse the permanent French establishment about the Deux-Rives notion, that somehow France, or France as the leader of Europe, shares a civilization with the Arab Muslims of North Africa (google "Deux-rivistes" and "Jihad Watch"), and that the differences are merely those of that pesky Mediterranean in the middle. And assorted olivier-roys and gilles-kepels should lose their positions of unmerited and baleful influence, and if possible, their government employment at one of those many Centres de Recherches Scientifiques that provide sinecures for so many of the well-degreed and well-connected.

[Posted by: Hugh at May 7, 2007 10:28 AM]

Posted by Hugh at June 12, 2007 11:22 AM

After I posted that, one disgusted poster, apparently a fan of Sarkozy, wrote that "I guess I can now stop reading Fitzgerald."

His nom de post was "FreeSpeech." I wonder what he thinks of Sarkozy right about now.

Posted by: Hugh at July 16, 2008 8:37 PM

Sarkozy talks out of both sides of his mouth, so you never know what he really believes.

Posted by: Voltaire at July 16, 2008 10:24 PM

Why isn't the Saudi prince donating millions of euros to build a museum of Islamic art in Riyadh, so that Saudi Arabia can show off the Islamic cultural heritage to millions of tourists? Why does he have to build a museum in the heart of the infidel world?
Roughly a century ago, when the Gilded Age was at its height, American millionaires bought carloads of art-works in Europe (and Asia) and brought them home, and housed them in museums they financed. They also financed and endowed orchestras and opera companies and other institutions of high culture in American cities. They made the great American cities, like New York, Boston, Philadelphia, Chicago, into centers of high culture rivaling those of the Old World. They didn't build their museums in Europe, they built them at home.
I guess the Saudi prince realizes that his fellow princes would never let millions of un-believing tourists in, so nobody would see all the wonderful Islamic art.

Posted by: ebonystone at July 16, 2008 11:21 PM

Sarkozy, tu t'es fait payé, sale putin!

One day they will shave your head and spit in your face! I hope to be there!!!

Nous ne voulons pas manger les gateux, sale collaborateur!

Posted by: Ummah Gummah at July 16, 2008 11:40 PM

Can we also have a German section in the Louvre? At least we have *artists*. No sarcasm here. None at all.

All that money we've been paying into the EUssr.. can we at least get a broom closet for that?

What's the magic word to get a piece of the Louvre?

Is it money or is it jihad?

Where are the French Masses.. PROTESTING the desecration of la Grande Culture Française.. that very culture which they have always so jealously guarded against the likes of "les Americains".. the very "Americains" who shed their blood for you in TWO WORLD WARS!!

Go see the graves.. I have.. do you see any half-moons among the rows and rows of Crucifixes and Stars-of-Davids? Where exactly are the gravestones of the moslems who died for France?

God, I better stop NOW!

I have no hatred for the French but I am feeling quite sick just about now.

I can't eat enough Freedom Fries for how much I need to PUKE..!!!!

Posted by: Ummah Gummah at July 16, 2008 11:57 PM

"France is a friend of Arab countries," said Sarkozy. "France wants peace, France does not want a clash of civilisations between the West and the East", which he said "would spell catastrophe for the world."

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PUUUUUUUUUUUNK!!!!!

The clash only spells catastrophe for Quislings and cowards!!!!

Posted by: Ummah Gummah at July 16, 2008 11:59 PM

What will constitute victory in his eyes?

--

Do you really need to ask? Victory in his eyes is an islamic "art" section in the Louvre.

How about a section devoted to all the art which has been DESTROYED by islam!!!

Oh I forgot.. they wouldn't have enough room in Paris alone for THAT exhibit!

Right after Bastille Day.. The Louvre is now officially acknowledged occupied territory.

WHOM are Western People to VOTE for!!!??!!

Can't blame the French for this sarC*o betraying them and their trust which they expressed via their votes!!

Democracy??!!!

And it's OUR leftists who say WE are propping up figureheads over THERE!!

Friends, the fact is THEY are running our politicians like "uncovered meat" over HERE!

Posted by: Ummah Gummah at July 17, 2008 12:07 AM

And just a little while ago we had hoped this French President was different. The operative word here is French. Most of the "Greatness of Islam" came from the Greeks they conquered; architecture, science and engineering. Once those generations of Greeks died islam began it's decline. Even their mosques were patterned after Greek churches.

"It is in the Mediterranean that everything will be won or lost," said Sarkozy. "France is committed to ensure that all will be won."

Such a fool.

"France is a friend of Arab countries," said Sarkozy. "France wants peace,"

Have a nice jihad Mr. President.
Enjoy sharia
Harem line forms to the right

Posted by: muslim_watcher at July 17, 2008 2:55 AM

Ummah Gummah - excellent comment - "How about a section devoted to all the art which has been DESTROYED by islam!!!"

I think Sita Ram Goel once made an attempt at cataloguing, in detail, all the Hindu temple complexes (with paintings, statuary, pools, gardens, the works) vandalised or completely annihilated by Islam.

Hugh - was it one, or three, very fat volumes, with densely packed text on pages (thin paper), simply listing the names and locations of the Hindu sites that had been destroyed?

One must assume there was an orgy of destruction in Persia.

All the Buddhist sites in Afghanistan and northern India - simply erased. Latest casualties - the Bamiyan Buddhas, destroyed as soon as Muslims got around to using modern high explosive on them (and also, the exquisitely, gorgeously painted caves behind the Buddhas).

Christian and Jewish artistic, cultural and architectural losses in a wide arc from Spain to Persia, taking in the Balkans and Egypt - incalculable.

I don't know if anyone's attempted to make a list of what was destroyed by Muslims in eretz Israel - but the historical records, combined with the plethora of ruins uncovered by archaeologists in modern times, the remains of Byzantine churches, great and small, built between the fourth- sixth century, and of synagogues, from any time up to and including the sixth century, most famously at Jericho - suggest that it would be a long one. The vandalism continues - witness the recent destruction of Joseph's Tomb.

Between 1949 and 1967 the Jordanian Arab Muslims destroyed no less than 58 synagogues in the Old City of Jerusalem, the traditional Jewish quarter, then under their control, and from which they had evicted every single Jewish resident during the 1948-49 war. They also systematically vandalised the ancient Jewish cemetery on the Mount of Olives, using its headstones to build latrines. Literally p***ing on history and faith.

Islam seriously intends to take over the world. It will then impose sharia: which if taken literally, and strictly applied, forbids ALL forms of music, whether sacred or profane, vocal or instrumental; and forbids ALL sculpture, and ALL artistic representation of living beings.

Its most devoted followers mean to annihilate EVERYTHING, from Lascaux and Altamira and the ancient Aboriginal cave paintings of Australia, all the way through to the woodcuts of Japan (those sloe-eyed beauties - haraam!) - the entire glorious treasure-house of Western and Eastern and African and New World art.

The sheer horror and obsessive mean-mindedness of this Grand Barbarian Philistine Project - this will to utterly annihilate all that which one might, echoing a Biblical phrase, call "the glory of the nations" - simply freezes the blood.

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at July 17, 2008 3:46 AM

"to see that Islam is progress, science, finesse, modernity"

The problem is, Islam is NONE of these things. And a few pieces of art won't "prove" that it is.

Sarkozy, what an utter disappointment you are.

Posted by: Madame Vengier at July 17, 2008 5:12 AM

And we had such high hopes for Sarkozy.
France - bought and paid for. What a disgrace.

Posted by: ImNoDhimmi at July 17, 2008 7:12 AM

Instead of such a fraud, why not just demolish the louvre and convert it into a mosque? You know that's what the Mohammedans would do, why not save them the trouble of doing it after they take over and do it right now?

For all one knows, they might even like you as a result. Wouldn't it be wonderful?

Posted by: Infidel Pride at July 17, 2008 7:39 AM

"France is a friend of Arab countries," said Sarkozy. "France wants peace, France does not want a clash of civilisations between the West and the East", which he said "would spell catastrophe for the world."

I really, really wish it were up to him. I really, really wish that unilateral overtures of friendship and peace could forestall what lies ahead. I really, really wish that accepting Sarkozy's premise wouldn't require a willful suspension of disbelief and intentional reclusive ignorance. And I really, really wish that the Saudi Prince were not a smiling, duplicitous taqiyya expert.

But, wishful thinking, willful ignorance, and pleasant fictions will not avert the clash or the catastrophe. Would that God would send us sober, brave, loyal, honest and knowledgable leaders with the requisite conviction and resolve to appropriately "clash" while "clashing" might still be effective.

Posted by: Concerned Citizen at July 17, 2008 12:34 PM

"Hugh - was it one, or three, very fat volumes, with densely packed text on pages (thin paper), simply listing the names and locations of the Hindu sites that had been destroyed?"
-- from a posting above

It's a two-volume work, that laconically lists Hindu temples and temple complexes destroyed by Muslims.

Posted by: Hugh at July 17, 2008 1:18 PM

Maybe Sardhimmi will invite Hugh to curate an exhibit on art which has been lost due to destruction by mahomedans..

Posted by: Ummah Gummah at July 17, 2008 4:46 PM

Let's hope this is just a symptom of saying 'Nice Doggie' while reaching for the baton.

Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses at July 17, 2008 5:02 PM

"France does not want a clash of civilisations between the West and the East",
says M. le President

But it's not a clash of civilizations; it's a clash between civilization and barbarism.

Posted by: ebonystone at July 17, 2008 7:36 PM

What does Sarkozy know about Islam anyway? What are his scholarly credentials? Has anyone ever asked him exactly what he knows about Islam? Who is advising him about Islam? Is he just making this stuff up, off the top of his head?

These are pertinent questions, yet nobody seems to be asking them to Sarkozy, nor indeed to any other Western leader.

Posted by: Rogster at July 18, 2008 12:33 PM