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Laurie Roth is wroth with Islam. “The Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC) wants to criminalize Christianity at the U.N.” by Dr. Laurie Roth, for the Canada Free Press, July 16:
Since 1999, the OIC has been pushing with the U.N the ‘Defamation of Islam’ campaign. The OIC isn’t a small fry committee trying to be heard in the U.N., but is being pushed by the 57, Muslim nation members in it and reflects the Declaration of Human Rights in Islam which is only reflected by Sharia law. That is how they want human rights defined and filtered through, Sharia law.What is it the OIC exactly wants and is pushing through the U.N.? Its actually quite clear when reading through even a little of this rubbish. On the surface they say they want to cover the defamation of all religions, but amazingly only one religion is mentioned by name as persecuted of sorts, Islam. According to Patrick Goodenough, International Editor, CNSNews.com, the text states they have “deep concern that Islam is frequently and wrongly associated with human rights violations and terrorism.”
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The way this anti protection of religion and freedom piece of rot reads would only criminalize Christianity and push the execution of more Christians who are already being sentenced to prison and death for reading the wrong material, mentioning a verse to a Muslim or doing practically anything that might engage a real discussion in a Muslim country with a Muslim.
Patrick Goodenough, CNSNews.com, says it like it is in pointing out that this religious defamation idea is being used as a shield and a sword. “In Islamic countries, blasphemy laws are used as a shield to protect the dominant religion, but even more dangerously, they are used to silence minority religious believers and prevent Muslims from converting to other faiths, which is still a capital crime in many Islamic countries.”
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Lets call this what it is. This aggressive effort of the OIC to slam this through the U.N and get the defamation piece approved by the U.N. itself is nothing but a declaration of War against freedom of speech internationally and Christianity. This is hidden in fancy, protective words, it would only protect MORE persecution, targeting and murder of more Christians and suck out even any soft ray of freedom a Muslim in a country might want to even discuss or compare their faith with any other. This will be brought up later this year at the U.N. again. Secretary-General Ban Ki-Moon will give an expected report on the measure put together by the OIC in Pakistan last year and passed in a vote 108-51.
Lets talk more about the OIC’s special glasses of protection they want to cram down our mentally ill, freedom loving throats. All freedom and religious protection must go through Shari law. Lets see, beatings for wives and women, yes; Execution of gays, yes; crucifixion of robbers, yes; beheadings of Christians who preach the gospel, of course; execution for any convert from Islam to Christianity…..on and on it goes and reads.
Posted by Raymond at July 17, 2008 8:12 AM
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Leave it to Islamania to paint itself (with infidel blood no doubt) as a victim while it preys upon everyone all over the world. Are we certain that chutzpah is really a Jewish concept?
Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS
at July 17, 2008 8:30 AM
Religious defamation? Sure.....just prove without doubt that your deity of choice exists and then you can submit that complaint. Waiting......
The U.N. has run its course, the West and any other non-appeasing country should withdraw from it and let it collapse.
Posted by: Abu_Lahab
at July 17, 2008 8:36 AM
So, would this 'defamation' apply to terrorists whom ?moderate" muslims claim have hijacked the 'religion of peace'?
Posted by: DJM
at July 17, 2008 8:42 AM
The OIC is establishing its intial program for its equivalent Nuremberg laws. Like the goals of the Third Reich, to establish laws to protect Germans from Jews, so to Second Caliphate through its political arm, the OIC, is seeking to establish laws to protect islam from infidels.
The Nuremberg Race Laws of 1935 deprived German Jews of their rights of citizenship, giving them the status of "subjects" in Hitler's Reich. So too these laws are designed to make infidels the "subjects" of sharia law in other parts of the world where the infidel cannot as easily be punished by fatwa or mosque mob.
Once established these laws will give extraterritorial affect to sharia law making it forbidden for infidels to marry muslims unless the children are automatically recognized as muslim. Like the Hitler laws these will talk about German persecution by Jews and will claim that The Law is simply for the Protection of Muslim (Blood) and Muslim Honor.
These laws are intended to soon be followed by "The Law for the Protection of the Health of the Islamic countries," which will require all persons in foreign countries to respect sharia law in their countries especially if a party to the domestic dispute is a muslim."
These laws are intended to give extraterritorial effect to sharia. If enacted they will be folowed by lobbying for laws that completely deprive infidels of their rights as human beings.
at July 17, 2008 8:56 AM
The wonder of the UN is how they intend to enforce all these measures in dar el Harb. I realize that in Europe the police and governmental authorities are cowed enough to do their bidding from within and without the confines of national borders, but in America, where ridicule and blasphemy are national past times, how will anyone but Hollywood and the press...oh, and the educational camps we call universities and the primary schools and secondary schools, how are they going to enforce these edicts....oh, never mind. I guess they already do. I forgot. Silly me. It's called multiculturalism.
Posted by: Jewel Atkins
at July 17, 2008 10:50 AM
I keep reading references to radical Islam; I need some help. Could someone please explain the difference between Islam and radical Islam again. It is all so confusing.
at July 17, 2008 10:58 AM
This is why the internet will play a big role in the years ahead with the needed job of exposing Islam for what it really is. JW/DW, DanielPipes, LGF, ete., are shinning examples of doing on the internet what needs to get done.
Posted by: bigcatgirl13106
at July 17, 2008 10:58 AM
This is a great approach to the problem...instead of focusing the struggle with the OIC to the singular context of free speech, Laurie Roth has interjected the well-being of Christianity into the mix. Doing so will hopefully galvanize Evangelicals and other believers who might otherwise have overlooked what is happening.
Posted by: Cornelius
at July 17, 2008 11:31 AM
"I keep reading references to radical Islam; I need some help. Could someone please explain the difference between Islam and radical Islam again. It is all so confusing."
-- from a possibly tongue-in-cheek poster above
Yes, I know what you mean.
at July 17, 2008 1:37 PM
While I certainly oppose any nonsense from the OIC, I think this woman is way over the top. Does she actually think the UN is going to pass a law criminalizing Christianity? Come on, let's have a little sanity and balance cause I think this woman is a crackpot. That screed is paranoid rubbish designed to elicit the usual self pitying dishonest rot from certain groups of so called "victims"!
Posted by: Dumbo
at July 17, 2008 2:22 PM
the text states they have “deep concern that Islam is frequently and wrongly associated with human rights violations and terrorism.
then they need to stop the nuts that that are committing terrorisim in allha name
at July 17, 2008 2:58 PM
Well seems to me as a former dem and liberal that the dnc are very good allies with the OIC.
The true enemy to the west is our own goverment islam wouldnt stand a chance if we could get rid of our leaders and the u./n.
at July 17, 2008 4:32 PM
thirdwordheaven asked "keep reading references to radical Islam; I need some help. Could someone please explain the difference between Islam and radical Islam again. It is all so confusing."
Well it's like this, there are two muslims who hate your guts and wants you dead. The radical muslim will come right out and stab you in the heart. The moderate muslim will offer to be your friend and will take you you dinner where he will lace your drink with slow poison. He will do the same thing again next day. You will never know what hit you until it's too late.
As for me I would rather face the radical muslim, at least I know who I'm dealing with.
at July 17, 2008 8:34 PM
Muslims never address anything or anyone connected with non-Muslims honestly (it's the taqiyya principle in action). ANY proposal involving non-Muslims that is publicly tendered by Islamic leaders such as those of the OIC is guaranteed to be a trojan horse of one sort or another. And thus should be completely rejected on the grounds that Islam always acts in bad faith when it comes to non-Muslims.
The OIC has one goal in mind which is to screw us over by negotiating in bad faith. That is their way.
Know that.
Posted by: pythagoras
at July 17, 2008 9:28 PM
And why do we need to "negotiate" with them? About what exactly?
Our National Sovereignties and Constitutions are non-negotiable.
Posted by: Ummah Gummah
at July 17, 2008 10:02 PM
Sounds like its a done deal to me. But the PC-brigades, the wimps and the useful idots from the left are our worst enemies.
Check this out:
UK: Mosque hope divides Brentwood
A COMMUNITY has been left divided by controversial plans for a mosque in Brentwood.
The Gazette exclusively revealed plans by the Muslim community last week to purchase a commercial property for use as a permanent prayer and community centre at an unnamed location in Pilgrims Hatch.
* one of my readers wrote to the Gazette explaining that a mosque was not simply a 'place of worship'. As a result the assistant editor threw a temper tantrum and nearly ran amok:
Update: The Gazette has removed most of the comments because of “Vitriolic, bigoted racist filth, unsubstantiated abuse”
- according to Matt Adams, acting PC-commissar/Assistant editor who is spooked by racial vilification laws. Matt Adams sends out letters to posters with “Your comment has been removed from publication for inciting racial hatred.”
Back to square One: which race is Islam again?
at July 17, 2008 10:31 PM
OT....I was just reading about the "inter-faith" conference in Spain sponsored by Saudi King Abdullah. One of the Saudi participants was asked about the prospect of allowing a Church or Synagogue built in Saudi Arabia. He immediately threw cold water on it...using the same old canard we've heard so often: "It would be like asking to build a mosque in the Vatican."
Folks, if you ever come across that argument, shoot it down this way:
'The Vatican is a tiny city-state, therefore the analogy is inappropriate. An appropriate analogy would be likening the prohibitions on houses of worship for non-Muslims in the KofSA to a prohibition on mosques in all of Italy...which Muslims would attack is a serious affront to their dignity and rights.
'The appropriate analogy for the Vatican would be a ban on Churches in Mecca, which we infidels could live with. But a ban on Churches throughout the Kingdom is blatant discrimination, no two ways about it. Of course, we understand that the blatant discrimination stems from the words of your Prophet: "no two deens shall inhabit the Arabian peninsula."...Perhaps it might be time to move on from the discriminatory practices mandated by your Prophet, no?'
Posted by: Cornelius
at July 17, 2008 11:03 PM
Hello, all. I am considered an infidel/heretic by all other sects of Islam (Sunni and Shi'a) because I am a member of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community, founded in 1889 by Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, who as, as we believe, the Promised Messiah and Mahdi. He ruled out the concept of Jihad by the sword in the latter days. He said that Jihad by the pen is only permisable in modern times. Also, our Third Caliph (yes, we have even restarted the institution of Caliphate), said that the Greatest Jihad we could do was to love one another and if a person swore at us or hurt us, we should pray for them and love them. We are STRICTLY OPPOSED TO UN-ISLAMIC TERRORISM which is manifest in most of the Islamic world of today. We are persecuted in most Muslim countries where we are established. There are many Ahmadi martyrs, including even, once a 4 year old girl. Our belief is very close to the belief system of the Baha'i Faith. We believe in the Unity of God, the Unity of Humankind and the Unity of Religion. Unity of Humankind means that all men are equal, there is no racism and we are all one family; a woman is equal to a man. Unity of Religion means that we believe all religions are true and that they were all actually One Religion revealed by God to different parts of the world in different time periods. Thus, we accept Krishna, Jesus, Moses, Zoroaster, Abraham, Muhammad, Confucius, Lao-Tzu, Mani, Rama, Socrates, Guru Nanak and others as True Prophets of Allah. Thus, we MUST be peaceful to other religions and we are EXTREMELY tolerant. We hold inter-faith symposiums each year and one of our religious holidays is called "Religious Founder's Day" as we believe all Religions are essentially true. We are pasificist. We have established "Humanity First" (www.humanityfirst.org) which is a non-profit non-sectarian international humanitarian organization which gives aid to ALL, regardless of faith, sex, creed, colour, culture or any other characterists. This org. though independant, is in collaberation with Amnesty International, United Nations, the Red Cross and others. over 93% of the funds collected go directly to charity and thus we are able to give aid which is often 100 times the size of the funds given. We have helped in Africa, Hurricane Katrina, Chile, the Tsunami and even the Pakistan earthquake (in Pakistan's Constitution, we are considered non-Muslims and we are persecuted most greviously there. It is like the persecution of Baha'is in Iran). We have built thousands of schools and hospitals all over Africa, Asia and even in the South Pacific islands such as Fiji. We adhere to the Qur'an :
"There is no compulsion in religion." (2:257)
That means that one may enter a faith and exit it and practise it as he likes and there should be NO COMPULSION. We are the only sect in Islam to translate the Quran into over 118 languages. Members of the Ahmadiyya Community even gave copies of the Quran to the Inuit peoples living in the Artic. We are established in over 190 countries worldwide with over 300 million adherents. We believe that our Founder, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, was a Prophet after Muhammad and also the expected World Reformer of the latter days, namely; the Second Coming of Jesus, Buddha, Baghat Kabeer (a Sikh saint), Muhammad, the Mahdi and others.
at July 17, 2008 11:24 PM
Here's the opinion of a non-Muslim about us: http://www.alislam.org/khilafat/fifth/preaching%20peace.pdf
Posted by: Considered Non-Muslim
at July 17, 2008 11:25 PM
Here's an overview of our faith:
http://www.alislam.org/introduction/index.html
http://www.alislam.org/introduction/intro.pdf
at July 17, 2008 11:28 PM
Considered Non-Muslim,
You behead animals ?
at July 18, 2008 10:57 AM
I accept what you say, Considered Non-Muslim; I think you are being straightforward and without guile. I'm happy to learn something about Ahmadiya Islam from you. Peace to you.
Posted by: John C
at July 18, 2008 3:51 PM
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