Yes, another Soft-headed Evangelical.

Posted by: John C at August 1, 2008 1:22 PM

Take note! Calling a prominent pastor a "Soft-headed Evangelical" doesn't say anything about Evangelicals in general--i.e., not all Evangelicals are soft-headed!

Posted by: John C at August 1, 2008 1:25 PM

To Dr Ben, and ilk:

"...their glory is in their shame."

Posted by: undaunted at August 1, 2008 1:28 PM

Adonai, the God of the Old and New Testaments, bears no resemblance to capricious and sadistic Allah, and his psychotic self-acclaimed spokeperson, Mohammed. Adonai has some very strict opinions about false prophets like Mo.

Posted by: OolongChung at August 1, 2008 1:28 PM

Just as not all Evangelicals belong to mainstream Protestantism.

Posted by: John C at August 1, 2008 1:28 PM

By the way; you're an excellent writer, Raymond.

Posted by: undaunted at August 1, 2008 1:41 PM

It came to me that this woman loves and worships the same God I do," says Johnson, a Christian.

Hey Johnson, your Jesus said that "no one comes unto the father but through me."

If you are correct, then your telling me that your Jesus is a liar or that you don't believe one damn thing he taught.

Good advice Johnson, abondon Jesus and join islam; you'll both be happier!

Posted by: witness at August 1, 2008 1:42 PM

"he calls himself "a soft evangelical"

Perhaps the good doctor is simply confused about who Jesus said he was and, if he remembered that fact, then he would find no reason for his 'soft' evangelism in the first place. Islam and Christianity have no commonality whatsoever.

Posted by: descendantofacrusader at August 1, 2008 1:46 PM

Thanks Undaunted.

Posted by: Raymond at August 1, 2008 2:02 PM

"Dr. Ben Johnson had an epiphany as Dr. Aisha Jumaan, a Muslim, spoke to him"

OMG, do these Mohammedans have magical powers of mind-control or what???????

I just can't believe the "testimonies" that keep piling up every other day of people who are smitten with Islam in one way or another. It's the most screwed up religion upon earth but its poor, delusional followers manage to just charm the pants off so many people. Sheer lunacy!

Posted by: Madame Vengier at August 1, 2008 2:13 PM

I see Evangelical Christians as natural allies in our struggle against Islam, but it must be pointed out that Jesus' message of pacifism - if taken too literally - risks the philosophical and literal disarming of the Christian world at a moment of great civilizational peril.

Posted by: Cornelius at August 1, 2008 2:14 PM

Yeah, Johnson learned about Islamania alright-the fuzzy and "peaceful" version we've all heard about ad nauseum for the last 7 years. If he wants to learn about the real stuff he needs to read a Koran and then he needs to visit a site like this. THEN and only then will he learn something of real value.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at August 1, 2008 2:21 PM

Jesus himself was no "soft evangelical", so I don't know his followers feel they should be. Jesus spoke of love, faith and redemption. He gave his all in all to pave a way so that we could be saved. But he was also righteous and just. He spoke of families being against families for his sake, he spoke of hell, he cast of demons and handed on the power to do so to his apostles, he spoke of the dead burying the dead, he went on a tirade of righteous anger against the thieves in the Temple--he tore that place apart and then physically tossed the thieves out into the street, and he used words like "woe unto to you" and "you brood of vipers" and "I will vomit you (the lukewarm) out of my mouth". Jesus was no softy. I fully reject the notion that the way to advance the Kingdom of God on earth is to dress ourselves in false tolerance and false peacefulness. Peace and tolerance, sure. But to the extent that the Kingdom cannot be advanced on earth? I seriously don't think this is what Jesus wants.

Posted by: Madame Vengier at August 1, 2008 2:23 PM

The Revs Hagee and Robertson have the true measure of the mahometan cult, its false god, and its disgusting, lecherous, murderous, lying, stealing, immoral "prophet".

Posted by: Infidel33 at August 1, 2008 2:50 PM

What a complete fool this man is!

"It came to me that this woman loves and worships the same God I do," says Johnson, a Christian.

No, she does not.

Is this man so ignorant of his own faith, let alone the Islamic faith? Doesn't he know that Islam denies the divinity of Christ, the crucifixion of Christ, the resurrection of Christ? Doesn't he know what Islam teaches about Christians?

I shudder that he is out in the world, representing Christianity in any form.

Posted by: Mo at August 1, 2008 2:56 PM

Muslims and Christians do not worship the same G-d. The thing is the woman he was talking to was lying her ass off and telling the old goat what he wanted to hear.

Da'wa anyone?

Had the old goat bothered to read the Koran and the Alchemy of Happiness by Al Ghazzali he see how alien and intrinsically violent and repressive Islam is and that it doesn't have any real relation with Christianity.

Furthermore Johnson seems to be suffering from a identity crisis probably brought on by his lack of faith. Generally when you read or hear of someone describing themselves as a soft/liberal Christian its generally code word for someone whose faith is tainted with lots of contemporary secular bullshit.

Posted by: waltc at August 1, 2008 3:15 PM

newsflash for you: Christians, like Muslims, believe in ultimate truths that transcend individual taste.

This is such a useful phrase it should be memorized, as it can be used nearly every day. What a pathetic bunch of religious smörgåsbord grazers this country has become; this article merely mirrors that.

Posted by: Concerned Citizen at August 1, 2008 3:58 PM

I see Evangelical Christians as natural allies in our struggle against Islam, but it must be pointed out that Jesus' message of pacifism - if taken too literally - risks the philosophical and literal disarming of the Christian world at a moment of great civilizational peril.

Posted by: Cornelius at August 1, 2008 2:14 PM

If we're discussing the same Jesus who overturned the tables in the temple -- which was what got him into trouble really -- I'm not sure that his message of "love thy enemies" was intended to be taken as absolute pacifism.

Moreover, if "Jesus is God," (and for the moment at least let us agree upon this point) I am not sure that God is or ever was a pacifist.

Finally, I think Christians mistakenly presume that they should be doormats simply because they do not understand their God.

My thoughts -- always free, sometimes worth nothing, but here you go.

Posted by: witness at August 1, 2008 4:13 PM

I find nothing disagreeable in that, witness.

Posted by: undaunted at August 1, 2008 4:17 PM

Witness,

Valid and constructive input.

Though I was raised a Catholic, I'm no longer religious. While I do believe in the concept of God (as rational an explanation for the existence of the universe as any I've encountered), I don't necessarily believe that "Jesus is God" (though I don't discount the possibility).

I'm reluctant to countenance the deification of any person, even one as remarkable as Jesus. I DO happen to believe that his message is infinitely preferable to that of Muhammad, and that the historical record of his life (the Gospel) conveys a morality that is the antithesis of that of Muhammad (found in the Ahadith & the Sirat Rasul).

Still, I remain concerned that a significant number of Christians do embrace a pacifist world-view. The success or failure of non-violent resistance is quite dependent upon the nature and the ethos of one's adversary.

Posted by: Cornelius at August 1, 2008 4:50 PM

Another reason to convert to Roman Catholicism. They are not so easily fooled by religious sentiment as the vast flavors of Evangelicalism can be.

We need unity since Christ commands it, but also pragmatically to fight against Islamic falsehood. What is holding you back from becoming a Roman Catholic?

Evangelicals should read Scott Hahn's book "Home Sweet Rome" http://www.amazon.com/Rome-Sweet-Home-Journey-Catholicism/dp/0898704782

Posted by: James Martel at August 1, 2008 5:14 PM

What is holding you back from becoming a Roman Catholic?

Dear James,

Get off your high horse and stare at this for about a half an hour:

http://www.traditioninaction.org/RevolutionPhotos/A055rcKoran.htm

Posted by: Concerned Citizen at August 1, 2008 5:28 PM

"It came to me that this woman loves and worships the same God I do," says Johnson, a Christian. "I had this sharpened awareness that in that moment she was in touch with God, just as I was. It was a dawning and an awakening, and it was liberating because it liberates you from standing on a pedestal and looking down on someone else."

Pastor Johnson, with all due respect, you don't have a clue! The Christian God is absolutely not the same as the muslim "god".

Jesus said, "The thief comes not but for to kill, steal, and destroy. I have come that they may have life, and that they may have it more abundantly." The point I am making is that muslims are always killing, stealing, and destroying. They have no mercy on anyone.

You say that you don't believe that muslims are that way? OK, then, I've got some other scriptures for you:

==> "There is one God, and one Mediator between God and man, the Man Christ Jesus."

==> "No man cometh unto the Father but by Me", said Jesus.

Obviously, muslims don't believe that Jesus is the only way, or the Mediator between God and man. I assume that you believe these things; so how can you say that muslim "god" and the Christian God are the same?

Rev. Johnson, I think you need to return to Seminary, and this time pay attention to what is being taught.

Posted by: PersonOfTheBook at August 1, 2008 5:39 PM

"The dream," he says, "is that we can find a way to bridge the chasm between Christians, Muslims, Jews, Hindus and Buddhists and make Atlanta a model city. That over the next year or two, we can develop an interfaith immersion program."

How can you possibly believe this? Each of these groups believe things that are fundamentally different that all of the other groups. The only two groups which are close to each other are Jewish and Christian. We Christians believe that if a Jew believes that Jesus is the Jewish Messiah, he becomes a Christian, yet he is still a Jew. And almost all of the writers of the New Testament were Jewish.

Posted by: PersonOfTheBook at August 1, 2008 5:46 PM

Cornelius:

I'll always respect and admire you no matter how much we may disagree on an issue -- let me first bookend with that point.

I don't necessarily believe that "Jesus is God" (though I don't discount the possibility).

I'm reluctant to countenance the deification of any person, even one as remarkable as Jesus. I DO happen to believe that his message is infinitely preferable to that of Muhammad, and that the historical record of his life (the Gospel) conveys a morality that is the antithesis of that of Muhammad (found in the Ahadith & the Sirat Rasul).

Still, I remain concerned that a significant number of Christians do embrace a pacifist world-view. The success or failure of non-violent resistance is quite dependent upon the nature and the ethos of one's adversary.

Posted by: Cornelius at August 1, 2008 4:50 PM

First let me point out that I can't claim to be of the Christian faith; there are many reasons for this which I hold privately.

But, let me suggest that you re-read the gospel of John.

In it, Jesus makes certain claims to being a diety.

The question you must consider is this: are his claims true; or are they a pack of lies.

Wish I could point you to a middle ground on this one, but I've looked and there isn't any. (I withold my position on the issue -- sorry.)

I personally have looked at the claims, and messages of both mohammad and Jesus under a microscope so to speak. My purpose was to discredit them both; mohammad was easy to do but Jesus is another matter (and yes, I have look at the 10 inch thick books that claim to "prove" that everything about Jesus was a myth -- all they do in my opinion is rely on speculation and circular reasoning.)

There is NO similarity between mohammad and Jesus.

However, I have also looked at the diety in the Old Testament and in the New Testament and I see a absolute correlation between the "personalities," and the messages between Jehova and Jesus; I'll even tell you that it is NOT illogical to conclude that these are numerically the same entity.

I believe we can agree that many "Chrisitans" either don't believe what their Jesus teaches; or they reject the teachings altogether and instead supplant their own musings about what they wish he would have taught for what he actually did teach.

I've studied many religons with all their various and sundry dieties; alas the pantheon is full of fakes in my opinion.

If I were in the market for a diety at all, I would chose Jesus because I like the man as portrayed in the NT; I like the central message; and he would be the kind of diety that I would actually trust.

Having said all of this we must give muslims their due. As dispicable and nafarious as thier diety allah is (spit be upon him) at least muslims believe his message; live according to his teachings; and are willing to die for him.

Christians and Jews have no such inclinations as far as I can tell.

So, we come full circle. I do not believe the "love doctrine" intertwined throughout the Psalms and wrapped around the gospel of John let's say, was ever intended by this single diety to mean that Christians and Jews should allow injustice in the mistaken notion that it is an act of "love."

It is sort of like the mistaken notion that Christians seem to have about "forgiveness." They presume that "forgiveness" should be extended before remorse; and that somehow "atonement" comes before regret for wrongs committed.

It is points of confusion such as this that the "open-minded, liberal, enlightened" and in this case: Self-proclaimed "soft evangelical" guys step in with their stilted musings which "sounds right" to some people but would be anathama to any real diety.

Theology according to witness -- anyway, through my mug of beer that's how I see things.

All the best.

Posted by: witness at August 1, 2008 5:46 PM

We need unity since Christ commands it, but also pragmatically to fight against Islamic falsehood. What is holding you back from becoming a Roman Catholic?

Roman Catholics. My debate ends here.

Posted by: witness at August 1, 2008 5:49 PM

"It came to me that this woman loves and worships the same God I do," says Johnson, a Christian. "I had this sharpened awareness that in that moment she was in touch with God, just as I was. It was a dawning and an awakening, and it was liberating because it liberates you from standing on a pedestal and looking down on someone else."

This is a classic example of what Bill Warner recently labelled "Muslimology". You cannot study Islam by studying Muslims, you can only learn the tenets of Islam by studying the Qur'an, Hadith, and Sira (preferably in reverse order).

This is also a classic example of how fawningly uncritical some people can be of their own revelatory epiphanies.

Clue for "Dr." Johnson: It was just a stupid, baseless, feel-good intrusive thought. Let it go; it's not based in reality. If you had really understood Christianity, you wouldn't have felt the need to be "liberate[d] from standing on a pedestal and looking down on someone else". You would have felt the humiliation of knowing you could never, in and of yourself, outside of Christ, please God, and that you were not so dissimilar, outside of Christ, from your friend who so desperately needs Him.

Posted by: Concerned Citizen at August 1, 2008 5:53 PM

I'm a Christian, almost started a church one time. Yea, go figure.

And, I think one of the three greatest men in history was Pope John Paul II, a Roman Catholic.

Everyone's got to believe in something, so I believe I'll head for the Casbah for a gin and tonic.

Posted by: undaunted at August 1, 2008 5:54 PM

Blech!!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Guardian/gallery/image/0,8543,-11904486915,00.html

Posted by: Concerned Citizen at August 1, 2008 6:13 PM

Bleeeccchhh!!

http://www.burningcross.net/inquisition/hitler-pope/hitler-cardinal.jpg
http://xe7.xanga.com/5a387b636963121209883/w15130738.jpg

Posted by: Concerned Citizen at August 1, 2008 6:24 PM

"I'm not sure that his message of "love thy enemies" was intended to be taken as absolute pacifism."

The problem is that the average person (even non-Christians, if you ask them) thinks that when Jesus said "Love your enemies" it means we have to put up with their bullsh*t. It doesn't. You can love your enemy, pray for his redemption and do your part in co-existing peacefully, but that does NOT mean you have to tolerate your enemy when push comes to shove.

Posted by: Madame Vengier at August 1, 2008 7:45 PM

In my misguided zeal and misplaced longing for real Christian unity, I flirted with Catholic (borderline) smugness; though I had experienced various forms of Protestant smugness, yet I was somehow convinced that I was right. I an still a sectarian, though in a more universal, all-embracing sort of way.

Having said that, I still must say, that to see JPII kiss the Quran, while disconcerting, doesn't discredit his exposition of the moral teachings of Christ Jesus. John Paul II was not, after all, persnally impeccable and indefectable--all-in-all, he was remarkably saintly and heroically virtuous. In this case [kissing Q] his prudential judgment can be questioned, and the uninintended implications--yes, scandal--of his gesture challenged.

Posted by: John C at August 1, 2008 7:55 PM

Read "I am still a sectarian."

Posted by: John C at August 1, 2008 7:57 PM

2Thesalonians 2:11: And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie

Posted by: interestinconundrum at August 1, 2008 8:59 PM

Witness,

As I was reading your post, it hit me that two Muslims could never have such a discourse about their faith.

You may be right about the "no middle ground"...
...you're definitely right about the fidelity of so many Muslims to the letter of their creed...and your observation about no "forgiveness" without "remorse" is a poignant one, certainly one I ascribe to.

A damn good presentation if I do say so.

As for myself, I maintain a deliberately vague concept of God....simply because no one on earth has a clue to begin with and objectively speaking, all belief in God is conjecture (even if one defines it as faith).

No sir, it's not for me to define God. All I know is I'm blessed with the gift of life and I'm trying to make the most of it...and the occasional prayer for guidance or intercession is a luxury I afford myself.

Take care amigo

Posted by: Cornelius at August 1, 2008 11:22 PM

"Calling a prominent pastor a "Soft-headed Evangelical" doesn't say anything about Evangelicals in general--i.e., not all Evangelicals are soft-headed"
True, many of them have amazingly thick heads but little inside.

Posted by: Dumbo at August 1, 2008 11:44 PM

I'm Jewish, I think both Christians and Muslims are pompous and full of it, but I prefer the Christians, at least they have some sense of guilt and right and wrong that I respect. Islam seems to be all about, being tortured by the landscape, killing Allah's enemies and dying in holy war and getting wine, food and sex in the afterlife. Reminds me of all that Bushido-kamikaze crap of the imperial Japanese.

Posted by: Dumbo at August 1, 2008 11:49 PM

He adds, "I'm the most unlikely candidate for becoming a spokesperson about Islam."

Well, you certainly got that right.

Posted by: Dsinc at August 2, 2008 1:44 AM

Yet another Useful Idiot, I am afraid. There are such a lot of them.

Now, let's hear what a famous 18th-century Evangelical said about Islam.

John Wesley (1703-91) wrote:


"Ever since the religion of Islam appeared in the world, the espousers of it...have been as wolves and tigers to all other nations, rending and tearing all that fell into their merciless paws, and grinding them with their iron teeth;

'that numberless cities are raised from the foundation, and only their name remaining;

'that many countries, which were once as the garden of God, are now a desolate wilderness;
'and that so many once numerous and powerful nations are vanished from the earth!
;Such was, and is at this day, the rage, the fury, the revenge, of these destroyers of human kind". - The Doctrine of Original Sin, Works (1841), ix. 205.

This Rev Ben Johnson needs his head straightened out, fast.

I suggest that jihadwatchers who live in or near Atlanta (is that where this person is? - can anyone find out?) should obtain, and send to this fool, with a suitable covering letter, Rev Dr Mark Durie's "Revelation? Do Muslims and Christians Worship the Same God?" which relentlessly exposes all the ways in which the Allah of the Qur'an and of Islam, and the YHWH of the Bible, are radically opposed to one another. Dr Durie also exposes the complete contradiction between the 'Isa' of Islam and the Jesus of the New Testament. Bat Yeor, who is Jewish, gave the book a rave review.

It's a great book: short, sharp, and to the point. For the not-very-clever, it even has a helpful section at the back with all the key contrasts between Islam and Biblical faith set out in tabular form, so you can see them at a glance.

Furthermore: the article mentioned an upcoming lecture to be held at 'Shallowford Presbyterian Church'. If you live in the area, perhaps you should find out when exactly this is happening, and go along, to rock the boat a bit.

Take the Qur'an, and a book or two of Mr Spencer's. And you could always take along a sheaf of leaflets, printed up with John Quincy Adams' unforgettable summary of the differences between Christianity and Islam, viewed chiefly from the perspective of general ethics, gender relations, and war.

I'll re-post it here, for your convenience, as cited in Andrew Bostom's essay, 'John Quincy Adams Knew Jihad':
http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=F3F5C99B-338A-4BC1-A4B2-585EFE643619

"And he [Jesus] declared, that the enjoyment of felicity in the world hereafter, would be reward of the practice of benevolence here.
'His whole law was resolvable into the precept of love; peace on earth – good will toward man, was the early object of his mission; and the authoritative demonstration of the immortality of man, was that, which constituted the more than earthly tribute of glory to God in the highest…
'The first conquest of the religion of Jesus, was over the unsocial passions of his disciples. It elevated the standard of the human character in the scale of existence…
'On the Christian system of morals, man is an immortal spirit, confined for a short space of time, in an earthly tabernacle.

'Kindness to his fellow mortals embraces the whole compass of his duties upon earth, and the whole promise of happiness to his spirit hereafter.
'THE ESSENCE OF THIS DOCTRINE IS, TO EXALT THE SPIRITUAL OVER THE BRUTAL PART OF HIS NATURE." (Adam's capital letters)….[pp. 267-268]

“In the seventh century of the Christian era, a wandering Arab of the lineage of Hagar [i.e., Muhammad], the Egyptian, combining the powers of transcendent genius, with the preternatural energy of a fanatic, and the fraudulent spirit of an impostor, proclaimed himself as a messenger from Heaven, and spread desolation and delusion over an extensive portion of the earth.
'Adopting from the sublime conception of the Mosaic law, the doctrine of one omnipotent God; he connected indissolubly with it, the audacious falsehood, that he was himself his prophet and apostle.
'Adopting from the new Revelation of Jesus, the faith and hope of immortal life, and of future retribution, he humbled it to the dust by adapting all the rewards and sanctions of his religion to the gratification of the sexual passion.

'He poisoned the sources of human felicity at the fountain, by degrading the condition of the female sex, and the allowance of polygamy;

and he declared undistinguishing and exterminating war, as a part of his religion, against all the rest of mankind.

THE ESSENCE OF HIS DOCTRINE WAS VIOLENCE AND LUST: TO EXALT THE BRUTAL OVER THE SPIRITUAL PART OF HUMAN NATURE (Adam's capital letters)….

"Between these two religions [Christianity and Islam] thus contrasted in their characters, a war of twelve hundred years has already raged. The war is yet flagrant…

'While the merciless and dissolute dogmas of the false prophet shall furnish motives to human action, there can never be peace upon earth, and good will towards men.” [p. 269]".

FROM - “Unsigned essays dealing with the Russo-Turkish War, and on Greece, written while JQA was in retirement, before his election to Congress in 1830” , Chapters X-XIV (pp. 267-402) in The American Annual Register for 1827-28-29. New York, 1830.

Take *that* along to one of Rev Ben Johnson's interfaith snake oil meetings, pass it around or read it out and see what happens.

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at August 2, 2008 2:21 AM

And to add to what dumbledoresarmy has puit in the above post, here's some more, from the likes of Bishop Fulton J Sheen, Hilaire Belloc, Ayatollah Khomeini, Winston Churchill, and a few more:

"Today (1950), the hatred of the Moslem countries against the West is becoming hatred against Christianity itself. Although the statesmen have not yet taken it into account, there is still grave danger that the temporal power of Islam may return and, with it, the menace that it may shake off a West which has ceased to be Christian, and affirm itself as a great anti-Christian world Power." - Bishop Fulton J. Sheen, 1950

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"Will not perhaps the temporal power of Islam return and with it the menace of an armed Mohammedan world, which will shake off the domination of Europeans -- still nominally Christian -- and reappear as the prime enemy of our civilization? The future always comes as a surprise, but political wisdom consists in attempting at least some partial judgment of what that surprise may be. And for my part I cannot but believe that a main unexpected thing of the future is the return of Islam." - Hilaire Belloc, The Great Heresies 1938.

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"The religion of Islam above all others was founded upon the sword … Moreover it provides incentives to slaughter, and in three continents has produced fighting breeds of men – filled with a wild and merciless fanaticism." - Winston Churchill, The River War, 1899.

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“It has always seemed to me possible, and even probable, that there would be a resurrection of Islam and that our sons or our grandsons would see the renewal of that tremendous struggle between the Christian culture and what has been for more than a thousand years its greatest opponent.”

“The suggestion that Islam may re-arise sounds fantastic – but this is only because men are always powerfully affected by the immediate past: – one might say that they are blinded by it….”

“But not so very long ago, less than a hundred years before the Declaration of Independence…. Vienna was almost taken and only saved by the Christian army under the command of the King of Poland on a date that ought to be among the most famous in history: September 11th, 1683.” – Hilaire Belloc – The Great Heresies, 1938.

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“The Greeks who triumphed at Marathon and Salamis did a work without which the world would have been deprived of the social value of Plato and Aristotle, of Aeschylus, Herodotus, and Thucydides. The civilization of Europe, America, and Australia exists today at all only because of the victories of civilized man over the enemies of civilization, because the victories stretching through the centuries from the days of Miltiades and Themistocles to those of Charles Martel in the eighth century and those of John Sobieski in the seventeenth century.”

“During the thousand years that included the careers of the Frankish soldier and the Polish king, the Christians of Asia and Africa proved unable to wage successful war with the Moslem conquerors; and in consequence Christianity practically vanished from the two continents; and today nobody can find in them any "social values" whatever, in the sense in which we use the words, so far as the sphere of Mohammedan influence. There are such "social values" today in Europe, America, and Australia only because during those thousand years the Christians of Europe possessed the warlike power to do what the Christians of Asia and Africa had failed to do - that is, to beat back the Moslem invader.” – Theodore Roosevelt 1916

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"A formidable army composed of audacious barbarians is descending on this island. These persons, my brothers, are the enemies of Jesus Christ. Today it is a question of the defense of our faith -- as to whether the Gospels are to be superseded by the Koran. God on this occasion demands of us our lives, already vowed to his service. Happy will be those who first consummate this sacrifice." Jean Parisol de la Valette, 1565.

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"Hatred of the non-Muslim is the pivot of Islamic existence." - Anwar Sheikh

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"Since Islam regards non-Muslims as on a lower level of belief and conviction, if a Muslim kills a non-Muslim…then his punishment must not be the retaliatory death, since the faith and conviction he possesses is loftier than that of the man slain... "Islam and its peoples must be above the infidels, and never permit non-Muslims to acquire lordship over them." — Sultanhussein Tabandeh, A Muslim Commentary on the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, 1970.

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"They [Muslims] were, upon the whole, from the black day when they first entered Europe, the one great anti-human specimen of humanity. Wherever they went, a broad line of blood marked the track behind them, and, as far as their dominion reached, civilization disappeared from view. They represented everywhere government by forces opposed to government by law." – William Gladstone – former British Prime Minister.

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“Islam makes it incumbent on all adult males, provided they are not disabled and incapacitated, to prepare themselves for the conquest of [other] countries so that the writ of Islam is obeyed in every country in the world. But those who study Islamic Holy War will understand why Islam wants to conquer the whole world…. Those who know nothing of Islam pretend that Islam counsels against war. Those [who say this] are witless. Islam says: Kill all the unbelievers just as they would kill you all! Does this mean that Muslims should sit back until they are devoured by [the unbelievers]? Islam says: Kill them [the non-Muslims], put them to the sword and scatter [their armies]. Does this mean sitting back until [non-Muslims] overcome us? Islam says: Kill in the service of Allah those who may want to kill you! Does this mean that we should surrender to the enemy? Islam says: Whatever good there is exists thanks to the sword and in the shadow of the sword! People cannot be made obedient except with the sword! The sword is the key to Paradise, which can be opened only for Holy Warriors! There are hundreds of other [Koranic] verses and Hadiths [sayings of the Prophet] urging Muslims to value war and to fight. Does all that mean that Islam is a religion that prevents men from waging war? I spit upon those foolish souls who make such a claim.” - Ayatollah Khomeini, 1942.

Posted by: Spirit Of 1683 at August 3, 2008 5:47 PM

Is his name Rev. Right? Give this man a certificate of stupidity, he earned it and he deserves it.

Posted by: American at August 4, 2008 11:15 AM

From what I have read about Dr. Johnson he is a renowned scholar. I seriously doubt he would venture into this lightly without reading the Koran.

Posted by: Harlin at August 5, 2008 9:40 PM