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Councillor Stephanie Eaton says: "Our community consists of a huge number of different religions, all of which should be valued, and no one religion should be accorded more status or influence than others." She is, of course, right about that, but she and all British non-Muslims should have seen this coming. It was inevitable, given the political and supremacist character of traditional Islam, that the calls for special accommodation of Muslim practices (which we have seen in Britain for years), would lead to the next step: demands that non-Muslims behave in accordance with Muslim sensibilities.
Step by step, Sharia is coming to Britain, and still very few Britons have noticed, or decided to resist. The mainstream parties are completely AWOL on this issue, leaving the field to race separatists who cloud the issue by bringing in questions of ethnicity that are actually quite distinct from the question of whether or not Britain will acquiesce to being subjugated under Islamic law.
"Muslim council chiefs ban ALL members from 'tea and sandwiches' in meetings which take place during Ramadan," from the Evening Standard, August 28 (thanks to Bark):
Muslim council leaders have sparked outrage after trying to ban all councillors eating in meetings until sunset during the holy month of Ramadan.Politicians have hit out after the move to impose hardline Islamic rules on non-Muslim colleagues throughout September.
The bombshell has been dropped by Labour chiefs of the notoriously loony Tower Hamlets Council in east London.
The storm was sparked by an e-mail sent to all councillors this week highlighting arrangements for Town Hall committee meetings next month, which marks the Muslim fasting period of Ramadan.
The memo said that new council leader Lutfur Rahman and his deputy, Siraj Islam, had requested that meetings be kept to a minimum to accommodate fasting councillors.
They have also urged all other councillors to resist eating until the breaking of the fast at sunset.
Cllr Stephanie Eaton, leader of the Lib Dem group on the left-wing East End authority, said she would be ignoring the new Ramadan regime.
She insisted the new Labour leadership was favouring one religious group over others.
Cllr Eaton said: 'The Liberal Democrats have enormous respect for the contribution of all faith groups and cultures to the life of the community of Tower Hamlets.
'But we fervently believe that the rules of any one religion should not be imposed upon others.'...
Normally tea, coffee and sandwiches are set aside for councillors to nibble at during evening meetings.
But during Ramadan these will be reduced and complemented by special Muslim food packs containing chicken, lamb and vegetarian snacks.
But in his email, John Williams, the council's head of democratic services, said: 'It is requested that members do not partake of any refreshments until after the Iftar refreshments are served.'
Cllr Eaton said that was going too far. Speaking on behalf of all her stunned party colleagues, she said: 'I was rather disconcerted to see that the arrangements put in place for Ramadan, which we support for Muslim colleagues, have been imposed upon all councillors.
'We object to the request that non-Muslim councillors observe the fasting rules for Ramadan.
'This sends out the wrong message to our community. Our community consists of a huge number of different religions, all of which should be valued, and no one religion should be accorded more status or influence than others.
'Freedom of belief is an important human right, and we Liberal Democrat councillors, Muslim and non-Muslim, agree that this request is inappropriate.'
Cllr Eaton has also written to Town Hall bosses about her concerns that their move 'will not enhance community cohesion and asking for their reassurance that no faith is given any particular status or priority in the operation or decisions of the council'....
Posted by Robert at August 28, 2008 9:25 AM
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Toodaloo, Britain!
As a last request, may I ask that Winston Churchill's coffin be reintered in another country which would do his memory honor?
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at August 28, 2008 10:01 AM
"...special Muslim food packs containing chicken, lamb and vegetarian snacks"
If Muslims eat meat during their "fast", what then is the point of it? They starve themselves all day, and then snack on chicken and lamb at night? It would seem that for Muslims fasting - i.e. not eating until after sunset - is merely a form of self-torture demanded by a "god" insatiable for death and blood sacrifice. The object of Christian fasting, on the other hand, is to purify the body, by abstaining from meat etc., at the same time as the soul is purified through prayer and penitence. Lent, for example, is not a masochistic exercise in making people suffer through self-denial, but to purify and prepare them for the joy of Easter.
Posted by: StrulZigelboim at August 28, 2008 10:07 AM
All religions are valued, but ONE is more valued than others!
Posted by: John C at August 28, 2008 10:18 AM
No compunction in religion, either.
Posted by: emet-veritas at August 28, 2008 10:25 AM
This would be a perfect opportunity to order pizza. It is a ritual too, or at least a habit or custom.
I favor the Hawaiian.
To which . . . the Islamists could demand that all pizza joints be closed, whenever they say so. Just because.
Posted by: ronled at August 28, 2008 10:28 AM
"They starve themselves all day, and then snack on chicken and lamb at night?"
It's not so much "snacking" as "gorging." Every year, news stories from the ME report that many Muslims gain weight during Ramadan, as the gross indulgence continues into the wee hours of the morning.
Posted by: Marwan'sDaughter at August 28, 2008 10:44 AM
I prefer a mix of pepperoni and sausage on my pizza. I also find it difficult to eat pizza withou a beer.
Posted by: MP at August 28, 2008 11:27 AM
This is the point when Muslims start to enforce Islamic practices upon non-Muslims in non-Muslim lands, rather than just practice them in private. It's a one-way bridge, as Robert is so fond of saying, because Muslims will happily conform to Islamic practices and request that non-Muslims conform to them too, but will make no effort to integrate into non-Muslim societies/cultures. Fundamentally it's a supremacist segregation, since the objective is not for Muslims to integrate into non-Muslim societies/cultures, but to make the non-Muslim societies/cultures conform with Islam, and it will be done, all in the name of 'freedom of religion', which will ultimately be abolished as soon as Muslims become the dominant population and gain political power, in line with Islamic norms.
People don't even realise that such one-way accommodation, is the primary way in which Muslims are Islamizing the West, and that the main threat which the West faces, is not 'Jihadism', as the media and governments often claim, but is in fact right under their noses, already in positions of political power, making 'requests' for non-Muslims to conform to Islamic practices, like shown in this blog, which is fundamentally nothing more than the 'drip-drip' effect, of Islamization.
Posted by: Rogster at August 28, 2008 11:45 AM
Muslims should try fasting like Orthodox Christians or Catholics. The Muslim fast is actually a postponing of lunch, preceded by a pre-dawn gorge and followed by a post-sunset gorge.
That is why they gain weight.
Posted by: CapitalistGig at August 28, 2008 12:11 PM
A heightened sense of being deprived of food for a month encourages such demands/concessions of infidel populations. Ramadan is nothing but a "ram-it-down-your-throat" orgasm of Islamic triumphalism.
Ramadan comes from an Arabic word for intense heat, scorched ground, and shortness of rations.
Oh those poor misunderstood submitters - enter your local muslim-grievance-theatrics-group/interfaith re-education/one-way-bridge-to-Islam building sessions. If only the world would simply bend to their whim, there would be peace b.s.
I recently came upon the following program at YouTube. Produced by Al Jazeera, it unintentionally reveals, actually, confirms what we've read in these pages at JW/DW for years. Actually, Al Jiz provides quite a treasure trove for counter jihad fodder.
For example, a recent episode explains the Islamic perception of immigration from an integration vs. assimilation point of view.
Let's define these terms:Posted by: heroyalwhynessintegrateto (cause to) mix freely with other groups in society etc Example: The immigrants are not finding it easy to integrate into the life of our cities.assimilate
to take in and incorporate as one's own; absorb: He assimilated many new experiences on his European trip.
to bring into conformity with the customs, attitudes, etc., of a group, nation, or the like; adapt or adjust: to assimilate the new immigrants.To the AlJazeera English video http://ibloga.blogspot.com/search?q=al+jiz">Crossroads Europe:
In this program, Al Jazeera reporter Elizabeth Filippouli interviews Midhat Ibrahim (Midhat Ibrahimbegovic?), a Kosovo national who immigrated to Sweden in 1952, in the main mosque at Rosengard, Malmo's poorest immigrant-populated district.
Fast forward video to marker 8:20 where Elizabeth asks Midhat the following:
Elizabeth: "Do you think that Islam limits Muslims to fully integrate themselves into a Western society like Sweden?Midhat: "Yes. Yes, I think Muslims can integrate. Assimilation, no. Integration, yes. The problem is that Christians don't know much about Islam. Muslims know much more about Christianity and Judaism."
Elizabeth continues: "Before I left, he cautioned me about the growing gulf between young muslims and native Swedes. Many people accuse Islam, and young Muslims have had enough. The conflict starts because young Muslims want to defend Islam. They want Swedes to know, they are not terrorists. It's ignorance about Islam that breeds conflict."
Integrate = invade = YES
Assimilate = become a Swede = NO (Swede can be replaced Euro national of choice)
Muslim immigrants demand Euro nationals assimilate to Islam via the slow jihad. Islam demands such assimilation around the globe . . .through interfaith meetings demanding the West tolerate a most intolerant pseudo religious doctrine.
In the video report, Madhat stated
"Swedish Christians don't know Islam". To 'know' Islam is to accept the shahada and Islamic supremacy. When those refusing to submit i.e. "know" Islam on such terms, submitters perceive such rejection as an assault on Islam triggering violent jihad to defend Islam.Thanks for clearing that up Al Jiz.
****As this relates to Ramadan and Eid ****
Eid marks the end of Ramadan and was first celebrated in 624 after winning the Battle of Badr,a turning point in Muhammad's struggle with the unsubmitting Quraish in Mecca. When Muhammad entered Mecca, he celebrated a great festival with his companions and family members.
Eid = Celebration of ethnic cleansing.
Think about that when the next submitter proposes another infidel concession.
at August 28, 2008 12:11 PM
Technically, Muslims skip lunch during Ramadan. I knew a family where the mother told me she had to get up at 4:30am during Ramadan so she could make the big meal for everyone so they could eat it before the sun came up. The process was repeated at dinnertime, after the sun went down.
While it's not a cake walk to skip meals for twelve hours, the illusion that these folks are fasting for an entire month is just more taqiya. I would think this is more about sleep deprivation than food deprivation.
Posted by: Isabellathecrusader at August 28, 2008 12:14 PM
I don't see anything wrong with non muslims celebrating Ramadan, as long as muslims are willing to participate in Christmas festivals, and gorge themselves on turkey and cranberries, and lots of wine.
I don't think they would mind the turkey, and wine so much, but might reject the cranberries...
at August 28, 2008 12:48 PM
If this is not crossing over the line, what is? What does it take to get the non-muslims of Londinistan to wake up, hit the streets, and draw their own lines, which the Muslims can't cross?
Posted by: Noman at August 28, 2008 1:24 PM
We are the Borg. Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated.
Posted by: pr126 at August 28, 2008 1:27 PM
John Burns, star NYT war correspondant, now back in his native England, mentioned on the radio a couple of months back that the UK Muslim population was about 2.5 million. This is substantially more than previously estimated.
Little doubt that it's headed for 10% within a fairly short period of time.
Posted by: sonomaca at August 28, 2008 1:30 PM
And can the favor be returned during Lent?
No. I didn't think so.
Posted by: Hugh at August 28, 2008 1:48 PM
Muslims are not merely Islamizing Britain. They are exterminating and replacing Britain, as they did Zorastarian Persia and the Jewish city of Yathrib, now known as Medina, in Saudi Arabia.
Why are progressives unconcerned about this regressive mullah dictatorship destroying liberal countries? http://www.bravenewsworld.com
at August 28, 2008 2:27 PM
Slowly, slowly, bit by bit, they are taking over. One day Great Britain, much too late, will wake up to the caterwauling of the call to prayer and find themselves living in an islamic nation.
"There's the signpost up ahead - your next stop, the Twilight Zone!"
Posted by: ImNoDhimmi at August 28, 2008 3:03 PM
Ouch. I bet that bite in the ass hurt.
Posted by: Kevin at August 28, 2008 4:52 PM
My Muslima friend despises her religion, because she feels trapped. Once forced to buy only from the local one and only halal shop, she got mighty tired of paying 6 bucks for a few pieces of samooz (flat bread) which was only sold there. She also says, "Why bother wearing hijab and niqab? The Koran says women are going to hell anyway."
So what to my wondering eyes should appear, but a Christmas tree, and holly and mistle toe and Christmas CAROLS and jingle ho jingle jingle ho! So I asked her WHAT was going on here?! And she shrugged, we like Christmas, that's all! And at Easter, there she and the family were, watching Passion of the Christ. I have never even seen the Passion of the Christ, and yet, she has seen it many times! It's a family favorite. I think, one of the reasons she is behaving this oddly is that she is the breadwinner of the family, while her injure husband has a nearly impossible time finding work, due to his lack of English.
at August 28, 2008 5:14 PM
Scandinavian site Snaphanen just had me rofl by coining a new expression, guaranteed haram-butchered meat. Make sure you eat that during Ramadan. Always.
Posted by: Robin_Shadowes at August 28, 2008 6:24 PM
Jewel Atkins...She does not sound like much of a muslim to me...That's a good thing.
Carlos Casteneda wrote of something Don Juan, his spiritual and magical mentor said, 'The true black magicians are your fellow man. If you don't believe that, just try and break away from the path they have set for you'.
Islam is the path, the black magicians are a long line of muslims going back to Mohammad.
Your friend, and family(?) are breaking away.
It may be slow and it may be unannounced, but it looks to me like it is happening.
You should gently prod her in the direction she is already going whenever possible...
She has already discovered that there is life outside of Islam, all she needs is more exposure to that life...
at August 28, 2008 7:56 PM
It was noted above that Ramadan fasting is really postponing lunch.
Real periodic fasting is actually good for your body and clears the cobwebs from the mind. Many religions recommend it. But it has those benefits without religion.
I have fasted many times for various lengths of time. I used to think fasting just meant limiting the variety, and amount of food. Like fasting on juice. I once fasted like that for eleven days on just popcorn and beer...it took two weeks for my head to clear up. Now when I fast, it's just water. Four or five days is long enough.
There may be some muslims who actually fast, but most are faking it...
Posted by: duh_swami at August 28, 2008 8:09 PM
Now when the insensitive British have their Olympics during Ramadan 2012 will the entire game be scheduled to accommodate muslim fasting and prayer times?
Strange religion Islam, here is muslim prayer times in Umeå Sweden:
21 June
Fadjr 01:12 am
Shuruk 02:08
Zuhr 12:41 pm
Assr 17:33
Magreb 23:11
Ishaa 00:00
20 December
Fadjr 07:03 am
Shuruk 09:20
Zuhr 11:37
Assr 12:01 pm
Magreb 13:50
Ishaa 15:58
at August 29, 2008 5:37 AM
In the Muslim world they just sleep all day. They don't get up early to eat. They stay up all night eating, sleep all day, then eat all night. That's also why they get fat. I have never seen an Egyptian who wasn't a good 20 lbs. overweight. Ramadan falls right in line with the Muslim 'work ethic.'
Posted by: jdamn at August 29, 2008 12:34 PM
Engelbrekt,
It certainly must be royally burdensome to be an observant Muslim at high latitudes. With their irrationally regressive calendar, when Ramadan coincides with Midsummer, they only have time for a meal at Midnight--and then, at the Arctic Circle northwards, not even that!
Posted by: John C at August 29, 2008 2:17 PM
I see that, Umea, Sweden, is only 2.7 degrees of latitude below the Arctic Circle!
Posted by: John C at August 29, 2008 2:28 PM
You can thank Muhammad (and his Allah) for such idiocies--his final sermon did away with an intercalary month (a 13th month) every 33 years as unbelief! (Unbelievable.) But, then, if The JOOS do it, it's gotta be unbelief, RIGHT? That's what you call Islamic Calendar Reform.
That reminds me, didn't the Prophet Daniel predict, "He [Antichrist, I presume) will change the times and seasons." See, then, Daniel warned us that the Obamanation of Desolation would bring CHANGE!
Posted by: John C at August 29, 2008 2:44 PM
A story with the heading "Tower Hamlets denies imposing Ramadan request on council staff" has now been published. See http://www.24dash.com/news/Local_Government/2008-08-29-Tower-Hamlets-denies-imposing-Ramadan-request-on-council-staff.
But in my opinion, the new story serves rather to confirm the gist of the earlier report.
at August 29, 2008 4:05 PM
Either all councillors are at liberty to eat and drink whatever they want during sessions, or none of them are, until the session ends.
The muslims can't expect to have it both ways.
Sessions must be timed for evenings to accommodate those non-muslim councillors who actually have jobs. So if eating is off limits, the muslims will just have to starve until the end of the meeting. (What a great time for someone to propose a ban on the burka- they would have to let it through unopposed or risk a lengthy debate...)
If eating is permitted, it is permitted throughout the meeting. And I would personally sit there chewing my way through a plate of ham sandwiches and a bottle of gin.
Posted by: Monty at August 29, 2008 4:07 PM
Sorry, the link should be http://www.24dash.com/news/Local_Government/2008-08-29-Tower-Hamlets-denies-imposing-Ramadan-request-on-council-staff I put in a full stop and this messes it up, apparently.
Posted by: philiph at August 29, 2008 4:08 PM
Christ it makes me despair for Universal Suffrage, it really does.
Is that what democracy means, that these grovelling fucks get to rule. Jesus, it makes me sick.
at August 29, 2008 6:00 PM
The next SIOE demo is the annual 9/11 commemoration which is scheduled for London this year.
The theme of the demo is "No sharia here!" and is in response to the Archbishop of Canterbury's and the Lord Chief Justice's assertions that there is a place for sharia law in English law.
If you truly care. Be there.
Posted by: Stephen Gash SIOE England at August 29, 2008 6:14 PM
I think this is the same area where the Bangladeshi's wanted to change the name of the railway ststion to "Banglatown", http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=6&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eastlondonadvertiser.co.uk%2Fcontent%2Ftowerhamlets%2Fadvertiser%2Fnews%2Fstory.aspx%3Fbrand%3Delaonline%26category%3Dnews%26tBrand%3Dnorthlondon24%26tCategory%3Dnewsela%26itemid%3DWeED25%2520Apr%25202008%252019%253A25%253A51%253A423&ei=Vd24SJm2KqKQ0QS5x4mWAw&usg=AFQjCNEr1oF-QFVilRIiPcKm-GJJFaIvfg&sig2=fptPnlH7_A-wTRSObHKwig
If I remember correctly they already have the street names marked in English and Bengali. The fact that most of them are illiterate in Bengali notwithstanding.
Posted by: Fred at August 30, 2008 1:50 AM
See that's the thing - that westerners don't get about Ramadan - who think it's like Christmas - in Islamic countries - Ramadan is not celebrated - it's enforced - and you will be arrested and go to prison for - breaking the rules of the fast.
Try to be inclusive - when you have all the facts!
Posted by: Cole at September 3, 2008 3:23 PM
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