And why are we allowing Somalis to come to this country? Let's remember the Somali cab drivers who refuse service to blind customers because of their seeing eye dogs. Let's remember the riot that occurred in the cafeteria of the Swift meat packing plant. By all means read Ayaan Hirshi Ali's book "Infidel" for her accurate portrait of the Somali immigrant's feelings towards their host country. Can't we learn from the mistakes of the past?

When will we have our first stoning in this country?

Posted by: tanstaafl at November 1, 2008 2:58 PM

Amnesty International: "Woman" stoned to death in Somalia was 13-year-old rape victim
.............................

My God--I didn't think this story about the barbaric stoning of a woman could be any worse. I was wrong...

This poor child. *This* is the naked face of Shari'ah. This is what they want for all of us.

Posted by: gravenimage at November 1, 2008 3:02 PM

Why is it that whenever I mention stonings, beheadings, honor killings.. etc Muslims tell me these practices have nothing to do with Islam? It seems to be the Muslims doing all these horrible things. Do Muslims do this because of what is in the Koran? I'm tryng to educate myself about the subject, as not to come across as ignorant.

Posted by: Isamisevil at November 1, 2008 3:45 PM

This girl's situation is like one sick, miserable joke.

Oh yes, it's called islam.

Posted by: PorkFatRules at November 1, 2008 3:52 PM

The pervasive ugliness of Somalia overwhelms all that is fair and decent in the civilized world.

The disturbing images of Somalia are seared in my mind from the US invasion to apparently rescue peacemakers which led to "BlackHawk Down".

No one at the time appeared to realize the extent of of an Al Qaeda influence in the Country as warlords sent out their drugged up killers against anyone who tried to impede their ruthless and violent power.

During that beach invasion into Somalia it was bizarre to see the media right in the midst of the troops coming on land. It gave the appearance of an almost staged for movie show. And yet as we read or see these horrors almost daily from the Muslim world there still remain those living in denial who cannot or will not see the forest through the trees, as well as failing to recognize the duck waddling through that same forest.

Posted by: Mackie at November 1, 2008 4:07 PM

I kind of knew that it was something like this. I knew it had to be rape, just based on the statements of some of the locals, and I knew she had to have been a little girl because it would have been called 'extramarital' had it been any female over 15. There are no un-pimped-away 16-+-year-old Somali 'women.'

These are the people who are terrorizing the southern Sudanese Christians from he east. These are the people who are destroying the formerly-peaceful Kenya and even Nigeria (it's Somalis every bit as much as it's Muslim Luos in Kenya and Hausas in Nigeria, and they're far more violent, evil, and ruthless).

These people MUST be contained.

Posted by: jdamn at November 1, 2008 4:21 PM

Why the quotes around woman? Why not just come out and describe what happened and damn the sensitivity training. It isn't lie Amnesty International would actually DO something to stop this sort of barbarity. They are tools of the Human Rights Industrial Racket with a guilt complex.

Posted by: Jewel Atkins at November 1, 2008 5:07 PM

sorry. I meant to say, like.

Posted by: Jewel Atkins at November 1, 2008 5:08 PM

Jewel--

I put quotes around "woman" to highlight the fact that despite claims that this was a grown woman, the jihadists executed a child.

Posted by: MarisolJW at November 1, 2008 5:09 PM

Sorry, but it's only rape if there were 4 male muslim witnesses (of good character) to the rape.

And Allah knows best.

Posted by: Celsius at November 1, 2008 5:14 PM

Her only crime was LWF. Living while female.

She was born, looked out at the world, cooed and gurgled. Then she had the nerve to stand on her two feet, walk to the window and look out. Then she had the effrontery to grow a pair of breasts and a sweet, shy smile.

Sorry to be so maudlin, my daughter is 13.

Posted by: freedomschool at November 1, 2008 5:15 PM

Regarding Somalis in the U.S. I am a Christian from the Philippines. I have a son and his family living there. I applied three times to visit the United States and was denied. It seems to me enemies of the United States have an easier time entering the country than its friends.

Posted by: toto at November 1, 2008 5:19 PM

Toto, you're right and it's pathetic. Phillipinos are our allies. We could learn a lot from you guys about the Islamic threat. I also know a few Phillipinos for my many years of working in restaurants and they're very nice, hard-working, fun-loving people, way better than the herds of Somali "refugees" we "resettle" in droves. And then of course we have to pay for everything for them and then pay all kinds of money in national security and insurance, which Phillipinos would never cost us. It's disgusting.

Posted by: jdamn at November 1, 2008 5:50 PM

And might this barbaric tragedy result in the discrediting of the Islamic forces in Somalia and their complete isolation from the Muslim world?

Need I ask?

Posted by: Cornelius at November 1, 2008 6:23 PM

"A 13-year-old girl who said she had been raped was stoned to death in Somalia after being accused of adultery by Islamic militants..." (Emphasis mine)

Now, what the hell do Islamic militants have to do with an affair of this kind, in the first place? Isn't this something that should be handled by local courts and laws?

Not that she would have fared any better, but we are being told that our terrorism problems are being brought to us by "Islamic militants". Therefore, when I think of Islamic militants, I see suicide bombers, armed troops, snakes like bin Laden, Abu Hamza, et al.

Also, what sort of idiot thinks a 13 year-old girl commits adultry with 3 men at a time?

Somalis...no humanity, no decency.

Posted by: Abscedere at November 1, 2008 7:32 PM

This poor child. *This* is the naked face of Shari'ah. This is what they want for all of us.

Posted by: gravenimage at November 1, 2008 3:02 PM

Agreed. I am utterly disgusted. Islam has far more powerless victims than willing participants.

Sad.

Posted by: awake at November 1, 2008 7:54 PM

A 13-year old victim? A packed stadium? One thousand spectators? Dozens of men doing the stoning?

To all Somalis: The image in my mind of this young girl dying will surpass and outlast the previous horrendous images I held of your country.

If Islam is not to blame for this atrocity, the world needs to hear from you -- quickly, and loudly. Tell us how Islam had no part in this barbarity.

Posted by: Jen at November 1, 2008 8:21 PM

tanstaafl
"And why are we allowing Somalis to come to this country? "

So you'd want Ayaan Hirshi Ali banned from the West?

Posted by: leon at November 1, 2008 8:53 PM

There was story similar to this where a 16 year old girl in Iran was convicted of "adultery." She was executed by hanging from a crane to serve as an example to the other citizens in her town.

As it turns out, she too, was raped in this case...but I suppose that was just a minor detail.

Posted by: PorkFatRules at November 1, 2008 9:01 PM

So, four muslim men must be a witness to the rape before it is a rape - how barbaric is that???? that they would watch a 13 year old get raped and then make sure to testify that it was true???? The very nature of the men of islam hiding behind Allah as an excuse for their bad behavior is horrendous and is the pool from which these rapes are done by one man or many without a crowd of witness to declare the child innocent - she was a 13 year old who was raped by beasts - men with no conscience - they need to find the men who did this and castrate them and hang them in the square - does not Allah say something about harming an innocent child???? better to have a milstone tied around the neck and thrown into a bottomless pit - into Sheol - and these militant muslim men of Islam who drug her crying and screaming to be stoned in front of 1000 screaming fanatics are just as guilty - no they should not get their many brides for their faithful service- they and every man who reveled in this child's death for acts done aainst her will should also have a milstone tied around their neck and thrown into sheol. Adultery by defintion is the willful act of sex outside of marriage - being raped is not a willful sexual act outside of marriage by thius child, whether witnesed or not - As long as the militant muslims of Islam are intent on this type of murder - there will never be an understanding of who they are - I for one do not ever want to know them for who they are - their actions speak louder than any words could. And for those who cop out and say , well Allah knows best - He gave his word and told you what should be - you men have decided how you will interpret it out of context - I pray you are shown more mercy than you give in the day of judgement

Posted by: WarriorT at November 1, 2008 9:33 PM

"Do Muslims do this because of what is in the Koran?"

No. They do it to cover up the sins they commit. If they decide to overpower and rape a teenaged girl they can't be caught or it might be their neck on the chopping block. So rape her and then accuse her. It puts all the focus on the victim and takes the onus off of themselves.

Remember the uncle who set the 11 year old on fire last week because she defied him and wore lipstick? NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNTTTT
WRONG ANSWER! She didn't defy him by wearing lipstick, she defied him by rebuffing his sexual advances and since he didn't want to get caught he set her on fire so she couldn't tell anyone.

$50 says the Islamic militia in charge of Kismayo are the ones that raped Aisha.

Posted by: Isabellathecrusader at November 1, 2008 10:26 PM

Oh, I didn't know it was your decision to put quotes around the word woman. I understand now. In Islam a 9 year old is a woman. Demented and sick, and Amnesty International is an impotent tool.
Clearly, this is a savage blood sport. Rape a child, and then kill her with rocks.

Posted by: Jewel Atkins at November 1, 2008 10:36 PM

This particular article never mentions that the poor little girl was dug up 3 times (and I assume reburied twice for some more stoning) to see if she was still alive. I can't even begin to imagine the unspeakable horror the child went through. And the stadium was jammed with spectators to witness, islamic justice, sharia law, muhammad's legacy, in all its glory. But hey, I'm told it's a "deterrent". Surely, allah is proud.

Posted by: KrazyKafir at November 1, 2008 10:43 PM

My God! This just makes me sick.

Posted by: Max Wallace at November 1, 2008 11:13 PM

There is a movie coming out featuring Jim Caveziel called "The Stoning of Soraya M." I don't know when it will be out in movie theatres but I went looking for information about it and was able to read a lot of the book online. Soraya was denounced by her husband because he wanted to marry someone else and wanted to get rid of her and she was stoned to death in the early 1980's. Same Islamic insanity, different decade. You can read more here:

http://books.google.com/books?id=vzfMvQC4wFEC&dq=the+stoning+of+soraya+m&pg=PP1&ots=bYM5jF-AT_&source=bn&sig=jRjOHWGaD1D_E0fF_1JI8xuY6QY&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=4&ct=result#PPA1,M1

Posted by: Isabellathecrusader at November 2, 2008 12:35 AM

A simple approach would be to compile an appropriately titled list of those who have used Shari'ah to distract attention from their own lust or incestuous thoughts.

Posted by: David at November 2, 2008 12:56 AM

Poor, poor, poor little girl.

First, gang-raped (and remember: she's Somali, she would have been infibulated, so one shudders to imagine the violent horror they put her through).

And then, on top of that: when, innocently, she sought justice, telling someone about the rape, her testimony was turned against her and used as 'proof' of her 'immorality', and she was publicly, sadistically murdered. I'd be willing to bet that the rapists were among the mob of demon-possessed murderers joyfully throwing rocks to smash in her skull.

Sharia: pure ugliness, evil made manifest.

Today is All Souls' Day.

Let those of us who are Christian pray for the repose of the soul of Aisha Ibrahim Duhulow.

Furthermore: copy and keep her story. Give it to our politicians and journalists and church leaders, whenever there is talk about 'sharia'. Explain that the law of Islam makes possible the ghastly injustice, and prescribes the hideous death, that was meted out to this thirteen-year-old child.

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at November 2, 2008 1:00 AM

For purposes of comparison, here is the BBC version of the story, as it appeared on Australia's national news site.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/11/02/2407869.htm?section=justin

13yo 'adulterer' stoned to death: Amnesty

Posted 1 hour 41 minutes ago

The human rights group Amnesty International says a girl stoned to death in southern Somalia earlier this week was only 13 years old.

Amnesty says the girl was convicted of adultery after complaining that three men had raped her.

She was buried up to her neck and stoned to death in a crowded stadium in the Somali city of Kismayo.

- BBC
END STORY.

Note that the BBC does not make any mention of Islam whatsoever; thus rendering their report perfectly meaningless.

Now, let's see how easy it is to rewrite the BBC report so as to make it both truthful and educational.

'Muslims stone 13-year-old rape victim for ‘adultery’ : Amnesty

'The human rights group Amnesty International says a girl stoned to death by Muslims in southern Somalia earlier this week, was only 13 years old.

'Amnesty says the girl was accused and convicted of “adultery” after complaining that three men had raped her.

'She was buried up to her neck and stoned to death by a mob of Muslim men in a crowded stadium in the Somali city of Kismayo.

'Islam's sharia law prescribes stoning to death as punishment for adultery.

'Under sharia, female testimony is not admissible in cases involving sexual crimes; unless four male Muslims of good character are willing to say that they saw what happened and that it was rape, a woman who is raped and whose rapist denies the act, will be accused of 'immorality' and/ or adultery, and face the death penalty'."

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at November 2, 2008 1:39 AM

Is this one more reason we leave the middle east? leave all those little kids to dirty old men? old dirty men who fill their heads full of hate and war and sex? What disgusting people. I'm so glad that the Koran doesn't advocate child rape and child pornography, I mean that would be "Islamophobic" to state otherwise.

Posted by: leon at November 2, 2008 1:58 AM

Dumbledore,

I'm with you on the praying. May that poor kid rest in peace. There certainly wasn't any available to her in Islam.

Posted by: Isabellathecrusader at November 2, 2008 6:54 AM

"A quarter of Somali children die before age 5; nearly every public institution has collapsed. Fighting is a daily occurrence, with violent deaths reported nearly every day...."

this could be the direct result of Muslims banning things polio vaccines, mumps and measles vaccines....killing aid workers....stealing donated food, soaps, and general health aids...eliminating Christians....blowing up schools...killing teachers...installing Shari'a law...and generally speaking ...Practicing Islam..

Posted by: pulsar182 at November 2, 2008 8:49 AM

Where are the people in the US who scream about rights now? Seems like the only time we hear about "rights" now days, is if the rights of a terrorist are supposidly being pushed aside.

I guess according to the US now days, the only people that have rights now are terroists?

Posted by: samhein at November 2, 2008 9:52 AM

Pulsar, I would actually be willing to bet that the vast majority of those children who die before five are girls who die of hemorrage, infection, or shock from female genital mutilation. 1/3 of them don't survive it and then a whole lot more die in childbirth because they are often still little girls who are sent to caves to give birth alone, when not even a 30-year-old mother of five who is infibulated can safely give birth without several deep episiotomies. Even without fgm many of these girls would die because they're just too young and too small and would get cesarians in the West. And then many of the ones who survive get fistulas and become pariahs and never even get to see their children. Being born female in that culture is the worst crime one can ever commit, and we're kidding ourselves if we think that it isn't spreading to semi-civilized places like Indonesia and even the Muslims in India. It's like Winston Churchill says about Islam: "No stronger retrograde force exists in the world."

Posted by: jdamn at November 2, 2008 11:31 AM

Beyond belief. This is absolute evil in action. It must be fought and destroyed with extreme prejudice and all those who appease and apologise for the ideology behind it...and we know who they are....are a disgrace to humanity too.

Posted by: johndoe at November 2, 2008 1:00 PM

From article: Somalia is among the world's most violent and impoverished countries.

Sadistic and fiendish is more like it...Hollywood has a hard time topping Islam for sheer horror.

And how many of these Somali sadists are immigrating to the west? The answer is not zero....

Posted by: duh_swami at November 2, 2008 1:15 PM

Somalia represents the best of Islam and Africa, let's quarantine it!

Posted by: MorrisMinor at November 2, 2008 2:42 PM

It will be interesting if the movie, "The Stoning of Soraya M.", ever sees the light of day.

I hope so, and if Rage Boy, et., al. surface again to protest it, the world will be faced with yet more evidence of what we're up against.

Posted by: Vee at November 2, 2008 8:01 PM

Dumbledoresarmy:

"Let us pray for the repose of the soul..."

While I appreciate your sympathy for this victim of a brutal, brutal culture (may it quickly perish by the defection of those unfortunate enough to be born in its clutches), a tree lies as it falls. The dead have already faced the judgment of Almighty God and are either beyond the help of our prayers (in Hell) or have no need of them (in Heaven). Prayers for the dead and the mythology of Purgatory was jut a myth propagated by medieval clerics to fleece the faithful.

However, this article does indeed show that something is radically wrong with Islam. Let's pray that President Obama (he'll probably win, alas) will not get us into any cockamamie rescue schemes in the Islamic world. Somalia, Darfur, the NWFP of Pakistan, Algeria, and the rest are just stewing in their own Islamic juices.

Posted by: Kepha at November 2, 2008 8:01 PM

Leon -

Read Ayaah Hirshi Ali's book "Infidel". She does a wonderful job of depicting the cultural clash between Somali supremist culture and the charity of the West,

Posted by: tanstaafl at November 2, 2008 8:46 PM

Dumbledore,

Let us continue our prayers for the dead, in spite of Kepha's admonishment that we've been fleeced by medieval clerics. The Church has always prayed for the dead and indeed the Bible tells us in Macchabee's II that it is a holy and wholesome thing to pray for the dead. Kepha is correct in that there is no point in praying for those who are in heaven or those who are in hell because those with God don't need our prayers and those who have chosen hell are beyond help. So who is it that the Church encourages us to pray for?

There is logic in praying for the dead. My former business partner and good friend was brought up Baptist. One time we were talking at work about the poor souls and she said she didn't like the idea of Purgatory. She liked the way she was taught that once you are saved you go straight to heaven. I told her she had relatives and friends who were probably languishing there as we spoke and their suffering could be alleviated by her praying for them. About two months later she came up to me and said she had been thinking about what I'd said and that it made more sense to her that there was a purging place that people who were saved but not perfect went to. She said it had always bothered her that someone who had lived a horrid life would go straight to heaven along with someone who had tried hard to be good and live God's will their entire life.

Even if we disagree on this point, there is no harm in praying for the dead. But you do a great disservice to those who may benefit from our prayers by proudly dismissing them as a waste of our time.

Posted by: Isabellathecrusader at November 2, 2008 10:20 PM

The last paragraph above was addressed to Kepha.

Posted by: Isabellathecrusader at November 2, 2008 10:23 PM

. Let's pray that President Obama (he'll probably win, alas) will not get us into any cockamamie rescue schemes in the Islamic world"

Kepha;
Too late, he authored the "Global poverty Act", and it is being raised as a bill to pass shortly after his election. This is how he will spread the wealth around, it will be used to send billions to countrys like Somalia, to raise them up out of poverty.

Not us, them.

Posted by: Islofob IS-1 at November 3, 2008 2:30 AM

Toto: You are 100% correct and I was amazed & disturbed to find that the US has allowed 80,000 of these people into the nation, as I understand it, because of some UN refugee program. Totally deplorable and inexcusable when there are decent people from many other countries that have ties to the US & would like to enter the country legally. I'll take the illegal Mexicans any day over these folks from Somalia that do not want to adapt to our ways, as demonstrated in Greely, CO. I sorrow for this poor little girl and the terror she had to endure at the hands of such heartless animals.

Posted by: jdoug at November 3, 2008 3:56 AM

Isabellathe Crusader:

There is indeed harm in praying for the dead and the doctrine of Purgatory. These things deny the completeness of the atonement which Jesus Christ paid for our sins. I refer you to Paul's letter to the Galatians and the letter to the Hebrews as well.

Further, since you raise the Roman Catholic Church's position, the RCC has always held that the Poor Souls in Purgatory are those baptized and in communion with Rome. By Catholic teaching, the stoned girl is also a hopeless case. This is further evidence that the Papal Church would usurp Christ's place as the saviour of sinners.

Islofob:

Got me there. Here we go, wasting the American taxpayer's dollar and piling up debt for our descendants to "help" a bunch of ungrateful savages.

Posted by: Kepha at November 3, 2008 7:18 AM

Kepha,

You said: "There is indeed harm in praying for the dead and the doctrine of Purgatory. These things deny the completeness of the atonement which Jesus Christ paid for our sins."

They do nothing of the sort. The idea that those who believe in Christ are off the hook because Jesus took the sins of the world upon Himself when He died on the cross is a Protestant confection. But if you deny the authority of Christ's Church and trust in your own authority to interpret the Bible why would you believe anything I say? However, here's an explanation of why Purgatory is necessary and why even you are subject to it.

'That temporal punishment is due to sin, even after the sin itself has been pardoned by God, is clearly the teaching of Scripture. God indeed brought man out of his first disobedience and gave him power to govern all things (Wisdom 10:2), but still condemned him "to eat his bread in the sweat of his brow" until he returned unto dust. God forgave the incredulity of Moses and Aaron, but in punishment kept them from the "land of promise" (Numbers 20:12). The Lord took away the sin of David, but the life of the child was forfeited because David had made God's enemies blaspheme His Holy Name (2 Samuel 12:13-14). In the New Testament as well as in the Old, almsgiving and fasting, and in general penitential acts are the real fruits of repentance (Matthew 3:8; Luke 17:3; 3:3). The whole penitential system of the Church testifies that the voluntary assumption of penitential works has always been part of true repentance and the Council of Trent (Sess. XIV, can. xi) reminds the faithful that God does not always remit the whole punishment due to sin together with the guilt. God requires satisfaction, and will punish sin, and this doctrine involves as its necessary consequence a belief that the sinner failing to do penance in this life may be punished in another world, and so not be cast off eternally from God.'

St.Paul also said in Corinthians, Ch. 3, vs. 11-15:

"For other foundation no man can lay, but that which is laid; which is Christ Jesus. Now if any man build upon this foundation, gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay stubble: Every man's work shall be manifest; for the day of the Lord shall declare it, because it shall be revealed in fire; and the fire shall try every man's work, of what sort it is. If any man's work abide, which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. If any man's work burn, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved, yet so as by fire."

It is a teaching of the Catholic Church that we are not allowed to assume where a particular individual goes when they die. Charity demands that we pray for the souls of all the departed. As far as Aisha not being eligible for salvation, we don't know what was in her heart, what went through her mind before she died, or went on in her life before that moment that may have lead her to be in communion with God.

Posted by: Isabellathecrusader at November 3, 2008 10:21 AM

OT - Isabella - what happened with your dad? I was praying for you and him.

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at November 3, 2008 4:52 PM

Thanks Dumbledore. My dad is still with us but is down to 95 lbs. He was able to come sit in the kitchen with my mom and me on Saturday but I noticed when he got up his legs through his pajamas looked like baseball bats. He no longer has a bottom. But his mind is sharp as a tack. He doesn't eat more than a few spoons of food a day so it can't be very long.

Thank you for your prayers. I appreciate you, and them, so much.

Posted by: Isabellathecrusader at November 3, 2008 6:39 PM

Does this religion prevent and preclude fathers from recoiling in horror?

What is wrong here?

Posted by: A Simple Sinner at November 3, 2008 9:46 PM

Actually Kepha, while you're right about medieval clerics propagating the idea of Purgatory, Dante invented it for a couple of reasons: because he was obsessed with the number 3, around which the Commedia revolves both in terms of verse and rhyme structure and in terms of content, and because the whole idea behind it was that of redemption and it was an allegory for his innocence and return to Florence, which he ultimately decided he wasn't even up for. It is a myth. But it didn't originate with clergy.

I don't believe in an afterlife, but even if I did, I would only imagine that this girl would go to heaven if she repented in her heart and mentally threw off the chains of Muhammedanism. It's sad what Islam does to Muslims, but it's also hard to feel sorry for Muslims since they bring it on themselves. I don't even have much pity for Muslims in Darfur. If they spend their lives being supremacist and worshipping a doctrine which glamorizes and idealizes slavery and which tells them they're all going to hell and to kill people who disagree with you, then they get what they deserve. I also can't feel sorry for the Iraqis who were tortured at Abu Ghraib. Have the Iraqis signed onto the Geneva Convention or the UDHR? No, so we were only being hospitable by their standards. They just think that women and infidels should be tortured and mistreated, so they got what they deserved. I'm not saying that being mutilated, raped, and stoned to death was what this girl deserved, but it's just hard to feel sorry for her when she spends her days praying for my rape, enslavement, torture, plunder, and murder. I hope that she didn't, in which case I have endless pity for her. It is easy to be disgusted at Islam, at Sharia, and jihad. Still, one less Muslima means 38 fewer Muslims who try to kill us at the end of the day. I hope they all self-destruct through violence, sectarian infighting, the inability to survive as an Islamic society, and plain old Sharia self-destruction/deathwish. Honestly, I hope they keep doing this kind of stuff to each other. We would be better off with fewer Somalis.

Posted by: jdamn at November 4, 2008 7:31 AM

jdamn,

Self-destruction never quite works out the way you want it. I never realized that the Koran has been such a corrupting influence on Muslims. At least for that influence, pity her.

I suppose a book that voids upon the human spirit in one line and uplifts it at the next is worse than one that is totally scatological.

Posted by: David at November 4, 2008 9:44 AM

I think what really gets me about this story is that you get responses from so-called 'moderate' muslims like, "this is not true Islam" or "these are extremists".

Irrelevant. Because this kind of behaviour only exists within Islam. There's no Christians, Buddhists, Jews or Hindus doing this.

Islam does not have a monopoly on criminal behaviour but it's the only one that enshrines it within a legal code.

And we should not take political partisan positions on this. Conservative, liberal, whatever, it doesn't matter.

Posted by: amazonas at November 4, 2008 12:37 PM

Jen wrote:

A 13-year old victim? A packed stadium? One thousand spectators? Dozens of men doing the stoning?

To all Somalis: The image in my mind of this young girl dying will surpass and outlast the previous horrendous images I held of your country.
.....................

This was just what I was thinking, Jen. With images of Blackhawk down, the murder of an Italian nun aidworker, and the killings of teenage boys whose only "crime" was watching the World Cup, I didn't think my image of Somalia could get much worse.

But the savage stoning of this child--already a victim of violence--by a huge mob is even more horrific.

Remember Columbia University professor Nicholas De Genova calling for "a million Mogadishus"? Is this the sort of thing he wants for the West?

Posted by: gravenimage at November 4, 2008 9:02 PM

Sorry, but Dante did not invent Purgatory. The practice of praying for the dead goes back to the Jews of whom Judas Maccabeus was one. The Catholic Church continued the tradition and this practice was validated and encouraged by several Doctors of the Church including St. Augustine, St. Gregory I, St. Jerome and St. Ambrose, all who lived hundreds of years, and in Origen's case, a millenium before Dante was born.

Posted by: Isabellathecrusader at November 4, 2008 10:06 PM

"It's sad what Islam does to Muslims, but it's also hard to feel sorry for Muslims since they bring it on themselves."

Posted by: jdamn at November 4, 2008 7:31 AM

Muslims "bring it on themselves" because most Muslims (especially the young) have been propagandized (brainwashed) into knowing Christians, Jews, and others as "monkies, pigs, and idolators" intent on destroying and killing "peaceful" Muslims. These young and others had no exposure to the positive aspects of competing ideologies, and can see kufar (infidels) only as subhuman animals. This is primarily the fault of the Imams protecting their temporal privileges by preaching from the Qur’ân and pimping its illogicalities as religion.

Please do not blame the Muslims for "bringing it on themselves," they live in a controlling spiritual environment, stripped to the essentials needed only for the promulgation of Islam and its goals of world domination. They have no choice but to obey their Masters because they know of no other possibilities.

Posted by: Jockaira at November 5, 2008 11:53 AM