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"We will do what Allah has instructed us."
But remember: the real problem is "Islamophobia."
Sharia Alert from Somalia: more on this story.
"Somali girl 'pleaded for mercy' before Islamists stoned her to death for being raped," by David Williams in the Daily Mail, November 5 (thanks to Elisa):
A girl of 13 begged for mercy moments before a mob buried her up to her shoulders and stoned her to death, it was claimed yesterday.The Somalian youngster is said to have pleaded 'Don't kill me, don't kill me' before her horrific execution in front of a 1,000-strong crowd.
A boy is thought to have been shot dead amid the appalling scenes inside a football stadium in Kismayu, a rebel-held port.
According to Amnesty International, the girl was 13 and had been raped by three men.
Officials say she was 23 and had confessed adultery before an Islamic court.
The stoning, which took place on October 28, is the first public killing in war-torn Somalia for two years.
Convicting a girl of 13 for adultery would be illegal under sharia law but the authorities said she had lied about her age. Print and radio journalists who were allowed to attend the execution put her age at 23.
Amnesty and Unicef, the UN children's agency, said that the girl, identified as Aisha Ibrahim Duhulow, was raped while travelling to see a relative in Mogadishu, the Somalian capital.
Her family is said to have tried to report the crime to the militia who control Kismayu, only for Aisha to be arrested and accused of adultery. None of the men she accused of rape was detained.
David Copeman, Amnesty's Somalia campaigner, said: 'This was not justice, nor was it an execution. This child suffered an horrendous death at the behest of the armed opposition groups who currently control Kismayu.
'This killing is yet another human rights abuse committed by the combatants in Somalia and again demonstrates the importance of international action to investigate and document such abuses, through an international commission of inquiry.'
Amnesty said partway through the stoning nurses checked whether Aisha was still alive. They pulled her body out of the ground to ascertain she was still breathing before the stoning continued.
A Unicef statement said: 'She sought protection from the authorities, who then accused her of adultery and sentenced her to death.
'A child was victimised twice - first by the perpetrators of the rape and then by those responsible for administering justice.'...
A witness told the BBC the woman had begged for her life and had been crying as she was forced into the hole in the ground.
He said the girl had asked the Islamic administration in Kismayo: 'What do you want from me?'
They replied : 'We will do what Allah has instructed us.'
She said: 'I'm not going, I'm not going. Don't kill me, don't kill me.'
The witness added: 'A few minutes later more than 50 men tried to stone her.'
He said no one tried to stop the Islamist officials, who were armed.
Posted by Robert at November 4, 2008 9:35 PM
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"They replied : 'We will do what Allah has instructed us.'"
I'll only believe in Allah when he convinces you guys to all go jump off a cliff and no longer be a threat to humanity.
"David Copeman, Amnesty's Somalia campaigner, said: 'This was not justice, nor was it an execution. This child suffered an horrendous death at the behest of the armed opposition groups who currently control Kismayu.
'This killing is yet another human rights abuse committed by the combatants in Somalia and again demonstrates the importance of international action to investigate and document such abuses, through an international commission of inquiry.'
Amnesty said partway through the stoning nurses checked whether Aisha was still alive. They pulled her body out of the ground to ascertain she was still breathing before the stoning continued."
Am I reading this correctly? David Copeman calls this incident "another human rights abuse committed by the combatants in Somalia"? How about calling this murder committed by Islamic terrorists?
I never knew there were "stoning nurses" before but what good are they? Obviously they are only there to see if the stoning has been effective or not - they don't actually help the victim being stoned.
Finally, Copeman's argument that this "again demonstrates the importance of international action to investigate and document such abuses, through an international commission of inquiry.'" does nobody no good. International commissions of inquiry don't help the 13-year old girl being stoned. It's questionable whether international action can ever be taken over such matters and as usual, it would only be left to democratic states to do something about this. The garbage coming from this guy reflects an outdated belief in the usefulness of international institutions - they're only good for talk and no action.
Posted by: S Perry
at November 4, 2008 9:55 PM
Uh-oh! Did these Muslim men get caught with their pants down, again?
When are these guys going to learn women aren't disposable sperm receptacles? I guess when some bigger men, some real men, teach these cowards a lesson and "motivate" them never to do it again.
Posted by: Isabellathecrusader
at November 4, 2008 10:15 PM
Hopefully someone captured the horrific images on video so the world can see what a toxic religion Islam is.
Posted by: James Martel
at November 4, 2008 11:06 PM
As vile as the murder of this girl was, the most insidious thing about it was the proclamation that she 'confessed and WANTED to be punished'. For some people, that little offering would have made no difference in their revulsion over what happened. But for others, there may have been a tendency to shrug and dismiss the entire affair by saying, 'well, that's what she wanted...that's just the way these people are'.
It was only because we still have free media that we know this girl was dragged to her death kicking and screaming. Someday, after Obama has turned over control of the net to the UN, facts like these will go unreported.
Posted by: Cornelius
at November 4, 2008 11:55 PM
It is the horrible injustices against the young and the girls, especially that make me the angriest. Especially since only a few brave voices are speaking out against these evils. We have to continue to be those voices, even when we are ignored. We can't let the willingly blind get away with saying, "We didn't know. We didn't see. We didn't hear. It's not our fault!" We might not have been able to stop that atrocity, but we can at least be prepared for those that happen on our soil.
Posted by: Jewel Atkins
at November 5, 2008 1:32 AM
Let's hear from Oriana Fallaci, in the Rage and the Pride.
First, her call to arms, her warning to the peoples of the free non-Muslim world:
"I say: "Wake up, people. Wake up!!" Intimidated as you are by your fear of going against the current—that is, appearing racist (a word which is entirely inapt as we are speaking not about a race but about a religion)—you don’t understand or don’t want to understand that a reverse–Crusade is in progress.
"Accustomed as you are to the double–cross, blinded as you are by myopia, you don’t understand or don’t want to understand that a war of religion is in progress. Desired and declared by a fringe of that religion, perhaps, but a war of religion nonetheless. A war which they call Jihad. Holy War.
"A war that might not seek to conquer our territory, but that certainly seeks to conquer our souls.
"That seeks the disappearance of our freedom and our civilization.
"That seeks to annihilate our way of living and dying, our way of praying or not praying, our way of eating and drinking and dressing and entertaining and informing ourselves.
"You don’t understand or don’t want to understand that if we don’t oppose them, if we don’t defend ourselves, if we don’t fight, the Jihad will win.
"And it will destroy the world that for better or worse we’ve managed to build, to change, to improve, to render a little more intelligent, that is to say, less bigoted—or even not bigoted at all.
"And with that it will destroy our culture, our art, our science, our morals, our values, our pleasures...
"Christ! Don’t you realize that the Osama Bin Ladens feel authorized to kill you and your children because you drink wine or beer,
"because you don’t wear your beard long or a chador,
" because you go to the theater or the movies, because you listen to music and sing pop songs,
"because you dance in discos or at home, because you watch TV, wear miniskirts or short–shorts,
"because you go naked or half naked to the beach or the pool, because you fuck when you want and where you want and who you want?
"Don’t you even care about that, you fools? I am an atheist, thank God. And I have no intention of letting myself be killed for it."...
And then, a propos this ghastly story from Somalia, Fallaci's description of Muslims conducting a sharia execution in Bangladesh:
..."To make you cry I’ll tell you about the twelve young impure men I saw executed at Dacca at the end of the Bangladesh war.
" They executed them on the field of Dacca stadium, with bayonet blows to the torso or abdomen, in the presence of twenty thousand faithful who applauded in the name of God from the bleachers. They thundered "Allah akbar, Allah akbar."
"Yes, I know: the ancient Romans, those ancient Romans of whom my culture is so proud, entertained themselves in the Coliseum by watching the deaths of Christians fed to the lions.
" I know, I know: in every country of Europe the Christians, those Christians whose contribution to the History of Thought I recognize despite my atheism, entertained themselves by watching the burning of heretics.
"But a lot of time has passed since then, we have become a little more civilized, and even the sons of Allah ought to have figured out by now that certain things are just not done.
"After the twelve impure young men they killed a little boy who had thrown himself at the executioners to save his brother who had been condemned to death.
"They smashed his head with their combat boots.
" And if you don’t believe it, well, reread my report or the reports of the French and German journalists who, horrified as I was, were there with me.
"Or better: look at the photographs that one of them took.
" Anyway this isn’t even what I want to underline.
" It’s that, at the conclusion of the slaughter, the twenty thousand faithful (many of whom were women) left the bleachers and went down on the field.
" Not as a disorganized mob, no. In an orderly manner, with solemnity.
"They slowly formed a line and, again in the name of God, walked over the cadavers.
"All the while thundering Allah–akbar, Allah–akbar. They destroyed them like the Twin Towers of New York. They reduced them to a bleeding carpet of smashed bones."
One can only imagine how La Fallaci, had she been in Somalia, might have reported that scene whereby a sadistic, howling male Muslim lynch mob gave itself permission to smash, with rocks, a 13 year old girl whose only sin was that she had been raped by three men. Or how she would have reported on that vicious farce of an Islamic court, that sentenced the girl to death.
Posted by: dumbledoresarmy
at November 5, 2008 1:59 AM
Allah is a godless soul...nothing but evil..
Posted by: pulsar182
at November 5, 2008 7:22 AM
How can anyone not condemn the actions of these sociopaths?
Posted by: tanstaafl
at November 5, 2008 9:18 AM
In the United States, 1.3 women are raped every minute. That results in 78 rapes each hour, 1872 rapes each day, 56160 rapes each month and 683,280 rapes each year.
However only an estimated 16% of rapes are ever reported to the police.
Imagine how difficult it would be to conduct the task of so many stonings.
If only they would stone the rapists instead, there would be a big decrease in rapes.
Oh how horrible are the ugly, and inhuman absurdities of Mohammadism which repesents a god that no civilized and descent human being should ever revere.
at November 5, 2008 9:46 AM
"As vile as the murder of this girl was, the most insidious thing about it was the proclamation that she 'confessed and WANTED to be punished'"
Cornelius,
You're right. This sounds just like the hadith about the adulteress who begged Muhammed to punish her for her adultery. The one wherein first she confessed, then told Mo'Mad that she was pregnant, then asked again after giving birth, then again after weaning the child...
It sounds every bit as likely. How can anyone believe either story?
Posted by: Abscedere
at November 5, 2008 10:41 AM
"They pulled her body out of the ground to ascertain she was still breathing before the stoning continued."
Why didn't they just hold a mirror under her nose? But, far be it from me to criticize, Muslim stoning techniques...
at November 5, 2008 10:43 AM
"Why didn't they just hold a mirror under her nose? But, far be it from me to criticize, Muslim stoning techniques...
Posted by: Abscedere at November 5, 2008 10:43 AM"
It is possible that no one had a mirror since self-reflection (of any sort) is not really high up there on the Islamic to-do list.
Posted by: tanstaafl
at November 5, 2008 12:36 PM
That poor little girl. I have nieces around that age. I cannot imagine the terror and pain she experienced. It makes me feel sick just thinking about it.
May this "religion" one day be gone from this earth, so that no more children (or adults) will have to suffer this way again.
Posted by: Mo
at November 5, 2008 12:41 PM
Abscedere: I'm wondering if that hadith is the earliest extant version of "suicide by cop," just as Aisha's morphing from raped child to vicious defender of her predator's ideology might be taken as an early example of Stockholm Syndrome.
The life of the hadith's "adulteress" among the Muslims must have been such a hell on earth that death by stoning was a relief.
Posted by: Marwan'sDaughter
at November 5, 2008 12:59 PM
Perhaps the greatest obscenity of all is the fact that 1000 people, presumably all Muslims, stayed to watch the brutal murder of a child in Allah's name . . . and not a single hand was raised in her defence.
That a thousand belivers would tolerate this act by what many say is simply a small minority of fanatic "misunderstanders of Islam" says much about them and their religion and reflects, justly or otherwise, on all Muslims.
at November 5, 2008 1:14 PM
Perhaps the greatest obscenity of all is the fact that 1000 people, presumably all Muslims, stayed to watch the brutal murder of a child in Allah's name . . . and not a single hand was raised in her defence.
That a thousand belivers would tolerate this act by what many say is simply a small minority of fanatic "misunderstanders of Islam" says much about them and their religion and reflects, justly or otherwise, on all Muslims.
at November 5, 2008 1:15 PM
When the leaders of their ideology are all thugs themselves, hey, this is the simple, brutal and convenient solution. Blame and execute the victim. No need to go after the criminal. No need to have a trial. Deny there was ever a rape. Then boast that there are no violent crimes committed under their regime.
Posted by: nighthawk
at November 5, 2008 6:05 PM
whats really amazing is that msnbc reported this
Posted by: crusader stonghold
at November 6, 2008 4:06 AM
Fucking animals. This is the twisted mentality of these women haters. And yet they claim to respect women.
Muslim women need to wake up to the fact that they are no more than property.
Posted by: DaveMate
at November 6, 2008 12:26 PM
Io3,
Those attending were there in the spirit of Romans at the ancient Circus (the Colosseum), and had a family member attended and protested a second hole would have simply been dug.
Posted by: David
at November 6, 2008 12:47 PM
David - you're probably right.
Has anyone here ever read Edith Pargeter's 'The Heaven Tree'? At the conclusion of that book, the protagonist is about to be hideously tortured to death by a tyrannical king.
But the medieval equivalent of a sniper, perched on the spire of the nearby cathedral, with his longbow, gets off a 'mercy shot' first.
Something like that is probably the best the girl could have hoped for.
Posted by: dumbledoresarmy
at November 6, 2008 9:23 PM
Dumbledore's Army wrote:
Has anyone here ever read Edith Pargeter's 'The Heaven Tree'? At the conclusion of that book, the protagonist is about to be hideously tortured to death by a tyrannical king.
But the medieval equivalent of a sniper, perched on the spire of the nearby cathedral, with his longbow, gets off a 'mercy shot' first.
Something like that is probably the best the girl could have hoped for.
.........................
There's a very similar scene in M.M. Kaye's novel, "The Far Pavilions", where a lone British officer is unable to stop a suttee (widow burning), so he takes up a position where he can cleanly shoot the victim before the flames reach her.
Somehow, I doubt that there were many in that mob in Somalia who cared to save this poor girl any pain.
Posted by: gravenimage
at November 7, 2008 10:05 AM
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