Two things in the article above cry out for comment:

#1.

"Since that time the population has grown to fourty [sic] thousand, with most coming into the country seeking asylum."

"Asylum" from what? Muslims fleeing from Muslim countries? Why do they need asylum? Explain what the word "asylum" means. Only Christians and Jews and Hindus and Buddhists and other non-Muslims require "asylum" from Muslim countries. Muslims don't. If there is economic backwardness, if there is political despotism and warlordism, if there is a mess - that's what Islam brings. That comes with the package of Islam. No Muslim needs to be given "asylum" from what can be attributed to Islam itself. Otherwise half the population of the Muslim world would be entitled to "asylum" in the advanced, non-Muslim West.

#2.

"Those who have just arrived here say they notice that life is quieter and very different to the country of their birth but say they have finally found peace here, and want to make it their home."

"They have finally found peace here" in the place they "want to make...their home" but they fail utterly to realize that what they are fleeing is Islam itself, and its natural consequences. And what they find -- that "peace" -- is the result of the steady buildup over time of the advanced nation-states of the West, entirely by non-Muslims, and with advances, political, economic, social, intellectual, and moral -- impossible under Islam. People fleeing the Nazis or the Communists, who found "peace" in, for example, the United States, knew exactly what they were fleeing and would never have worked, once in the United States, to further Nazism or Communism. It was that which they detested. But Muslims fleeing the chaos and wretchednees of Muslim-dominated lands do not recognize the fact, cannot allow themselves to recognize the fact, even as they take every advantage of what Infidel nation-states offer them, that it is Islam itself that they actually fled, Islam that explains the miseries that they are attempting to avoid. The hostility, the aggression, even the noisiness of Muslim life (where everyone speaks to everyone else in voices far louder than anywhere in the non-Muslim world -- it is the constant din, the constant hysterical screaming, that most impresses an Infidel visitor to Muslim lands), the inshallah-fatalism, the inability to recognize the rights of others, but non-Muslim peoples (a real inability, a deep intellectual and moral lapse or paralysis) -- all this comes from Islam, and it is all this that they bring with them and seek, whether in the first generation, or later generations, to spread and impose on non-Muslim states into which they have been allowed to come, and to settle deep within.

It's an extraordinary thing. Muslims themselves, save for a handful -- the handful who become apostates -- can never allow themselves to recognize what Islam itself causes, and so they work to bring about the very conditions that they have fled from.

It is up to the Infidels to understand this, and to act to protect themselves. The time for sentimentality, for thinking that Muslims are simply "humans in distress" and can be allowed into Western lands, should have passed long ago. No more should be allowed into Western countries, and those there should be discouraged, at every step, from remaining -- if, that is, they insist on continuing to believe in Islam, and in what the Qur'an, the Hadith, and the Sira naturally inculcate. Begin by cutting off all that Saudi and other outside Arab money that pays for mosques and madrasas. End all government support for those who violate the law -- for example, by continuing to practice polygamy. Make the acquisition of citizenship dependent on a deep knowledge of the culture, the history, the legal and political institutions, of the Infidel nation-state, and require an oath of loyalty to those legal and political institutions. Make sure that perjury in the swearing of such an oath will be grounds for being stripped of that citizenship, which is a great privilege. And work to immunize the Infidels against the spread of Islam by educating them as to what it is, a collectivist Total Belief-System, with a clear politics and geopolitics, that imposes the duty of Jihad on all Muslims -- the duty, that is, to remove all obstacles to the spread, and then the dominance, of Islam everywhere in the world. Make sure that Infidels understand how Islam discourages free and skeptical inquiry, forbids most forms of artistic expression, promotes the habit of mental submission -- in other words, stunts moral and mental growth, in a hundred different ways.

This can be done. It is not impossible, and it is far more important, to the survival of the West, and the turning back of the menace of Islam, than whatever "freedom" or "prosperity" or some such naive goal, is worked for, at such colossal and hopeless expense, in Iraq, in Afghanistan. Muslim states are always and everywhere, to the extent that they take Islam seriously, going to be "failed states." Let them be "failed states." Just minimize Infidel efforts to prevent Muslims from having to endure, and then ultimately to recognize, the failures that are a result of Islam itself. In Dar al-Islam, and in Dar al-Harb, where so many arrive, delighted with the peace and safety of an advanced non-Muslim state, but still, bringing with them, and clinging to, the Islam that is part of their mental baggage.

Posted by: Hugh at December 19, 2008 11:57 AM

Well, here in the States you have a perfect example of muslims who need "asylum." During the 80's, the fundamentalists of Iraq were let in practically willy-nilly. All because Saddam Hussein was a liberal and they were "oppressed." And boy did they take advantage of social services. They still complain about the good old days in the States and how now they have to pay for medicine and doctor's visits. It's the same with all the Somalians who are here now too! But for some reason these "good" fundamentalists never want to return to their homelands and rebuild their "paradise." It's all politics with no foresight on my governments part.

Posted by: lorfalcon at December 19, 2008 12:19 PM

Remember 20 and 30 years ago when you used to get the occasional defector from behind the Iron Curtain seek asylum in the West?

Well once granted, they seemed to fit easily into their new environment and they did not try and return the generosity of their host country by demanding it turn communist. They had the sense to realise that the reason the West was a better place to live was because it was not Communist.

Now why can't these muslims make the same connection?

Posted by: Celsius at December 19, 2008 12:38 PM

I think I might just copy Hugh's letter above and send it to the Australian moonbat immigration minister and a few other stooges in parliament, because since KRudd made it easier for these people to invade us the boats keep coming again.

There's already 400 of them in Christmas Island...

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at December 19, 2008 1:18 PM

The Finns, regardless of the early influx of Islamics into their country in the 19th century, were and still are virgins as regards Islam and its perpetrators.

Their liberalism and generosity towards the eternally "victimized" followers of Mohammed is not exceeded even by the Swedes and Norwegians.

It is difficult for some nations unfamiliar with the stealth invasions of Islam to realize that they have been and are being raped by their Islamic "guests" who eager to perpetrate their ideology upon the innocent and unsuspecting.

Posted by: unicorns62000 at December 19, 2008 1:55 PM

Tatars, to my knowledge, are completely integrated and as loyal to Finland as anyone else. They don't accept other Muslims into their congregations.

Perhaps they are different from most other Muslims because they have an identity other than Islam.

Posted by: Jesus Christ Supercop at December 19, 2008 2:02 PM

The Tatars are not, by and large, Muslims in any way except for identification purposes. They rarely even know anything about Islam. If you ask a Tatar why he is Muslim he will say "because I'm a Tatar," and if you him why he's a Tatar he will say "because I'm a Muslim." Then he'll finish his beer.

Islam is not a quiet presence in Finland. At least, that's not the impression I get when I read Tundra Tabloids.

Posted by: jdamn at December 19, 2008 5:08 PM

It seems the terriorists and jihadists have something in common. they share a common attempt to consider those whom don't know anything about their groups as easy prey to further their socialistic/marxist/communist agenda.
take a look --Here is what the ACLU thinks American's are said by NORMAN THOMAS ONE OF THE FOUNDER’S OF THE ACLU

quote American’s will never knowingly accept Socialism but under ‘liberalism’ accept every fragment of the Socialistic agenda; until one day they wake up in a Socialist nation and “wonder” how it all happened. by norman thomas one of the founders of the ACLU.

has anyone even bothered to “note” that this so-called ‘fairness” doctorine thing was deliberately mislabeled as “fairness” because Dems and ACLU seem to think Americans are too stupid to perhaps, dig further or do their research to find out what is true before “blindly” voting to approve something. Apparantly, they figured no one would “notice” that itmeans anyone would be punishable by death for claiming the muslim/islam/sharia law rapes murders and criminal activities are “bad”.

Accepting this would mean that all the muslim people whom committed the rapes, murders and crimes would manditorily have to be let out of prison and free to commit more crimes as as according to their book the -- Koran claims that Muslims are "above the law"; therefore, exempt from being prosecuted for any and all crimes that they commit.

Yet, how many people "still" don't know that this is "what is with" the whole SHARIA LAW issue wanting to get into the "banking industry"???

The Koran also states that anyone whom is non-Muslim is a second class citizen and therefore are to be "servants" (thats the Koran wording "servants") to Muslim because the Koran states "Muslims are Superior status than non-muslims" and yes, the Koran says the word "superior" about it. The Koran also states that non-Muslim have no rights, and their property and belongings and lands and homes and possessions are to belong to the Muslim thru Jihad at a time when the Muslims deem appropriate.

In addition they jihadist condone female mutilation and consider women as possessions rather than people.

The Koran also states that any Nations, charters, laws and constitution, and treaties are of no value because the Muslim Sharia law is the "law of rule"; so on Jihad command Americans would one day wake up to find they have no money, no land, no homes, no possessions of any kind, no rights, and no freedom, no sovereignty and can be eliminated at "whim" and no one can do anything about it.

The American Center for Law and Justice wrote info regarding this and they work to protect the people, however, the people have been pretty well kept in the dark about it, due to the fact a lot of blogs don't allow people whose posts are not Pro obama.

Prior to elections we had to constantly complain to the REPUBLICANS that our posts were being stonewalled and not printed. So, we had to file thru the Justice dept. To the present??? the problem persists.

How many people still don't know that in 2000 ?rememba? Seattle WASH? Clinton wanted everyone to go for the globalist government. This would mean the US would be stripped of all it's rights and lose all our Sovereignty, relegating every American to the "status" of being "servants" in their own country to be ruled by the UN, instead of WE THE PEOPLE.

Thankfully Bush saw the serious threat this Socialist star chamber posed to our military and he told them to stuff a sock in it. Apparantly at that time the UN was insulted by it. Although the REPUBLICANS tried twice to negotiate immunity for US peacekeepers thru the Sec Council.

Well, the anti-Americans at the UN wouldn't have any of it and the Abu Graib prison gave Kofi Annan the opening he wanted. The he tried to wrap himself in the human right mantle by claiming it would be unfotunate for someone to press for such an exemption given the prisoner abuse in Iraq.

We all know that if Mr. Amman really cared a "thing" about human rights he would have protested the revolving membership of certain countries with human rights track records. However, the Sanctimonious UN and Annan are always silent on the topic of human rights; except when it comes to taking cheap shots at the US

What they are really after is for the US to submit to the will of the UN and it's International criminal court. What they want is for the US to relinquish it's SOVEREIGNTY relagating WE THE PEOPLE of the US to the status of servants to the UN INSTEAD of being governed by WE THE PEOPLE

THIS would for example entail that any US citizen or US military can be abducted and US servicemen serving in let's say Pakistan could be apprehended by local Muslim authorities for an offense, real or imagined slammed into the ICC and flown to the Hage, netherlands where they would rot for months waiting for trial and done ENTIRELY without due process. they would get not trial and no confronting of accusers, No protection from double jeopardy and no unanimous verdict for a conviction. No one but no one would be able to do anything about it.

Take a second to THINK about this all of the globalists within and without the USA think the murderous Al Qaida terriorists should have these rights HOWEVER NOT OUR US SOLDIERS and NOT OUR US CITIZENS.

Even though we can't guarantee that no American soldier is ever taken prisoner by a foreign state and put before the ICC, we at "least" make sure no US soldier and or civilian meets with this fate.

However, the ICC doesn't want to recognize the CONSTITUTIONAL rights that we as Americans are guaranteed. GET IT?? They too think our constitution is FLAWED.

Meanwhile the globalists Anti-American ICC supporters criticized Mr. Bush claiming we were "undermining international LAW, the reality, THEY were writing new INTERNATIONAL LAWS TO protect themselves.

Want to know WHAT were the "agreement on the Privileges and immunities of the ICC" ratified with the assent of ONLY 10 NATION--it flat out provides the ICC immunity from "every form of legal process anywhere".

They stated that the "property, funds, and assets" of the ICC "shall be IMMUNE from search, seizure, requisition, confiscation, expropriation and any other form of interference. And, the ICC and it's assets they said "are to be exempt from all direct taxes" including local taxes and customs.

Long and short of it----the ICC MEMBERS have declared themselves IMMUNE form "personal arrest or detention, Legal process of every kind and immigration restrictions.

Oh then then lastly, the "salaries, emoluments and allowances" of the judges prosecutor deputy prosecutor and the registras of the ICC ARE EXEMPT from taxaition.

What hypocrites, it seems to run DEEP in the UN, but it indicates the lengths to which globalists will go to undermine National SOVEREIGNTY.

There's no mistaking it, the ICC SEVERELY undermines our Sovereignty and has over the years placed our troops at great risk.

It CLAIMS complete jurisdiction over every person in the world and it makes no difference to them whether or not that nation has even ratified the treaty.

And, FRANKLY our own constitution may soon be up to the interpretation of 18 foreign -and for the most part hostile-ICC JUDGES.

Long and short of it, the ICC is literally a dagger in the heart of our US SOVEREIGNTY, our freedom and our independence.

How many people still don't know that the latest "change" has been found out, yesterday the UN OFFICIALLY voted to pass to accept SHARIA LAW which states that it is punishible by death to anyone whom claims the islam/muslim/sharia law rapes, murders and criminal activities are "bad".

So, WE THE PEOPLE, might as well face the facts that they "really" don't like us at all.

How many people don't know what sharia Law means is--it is a "crime" punishble by death to be a Christian or any other religion other than Muslim??

The bailout together with the out of control spending and the "whole meltdown mess" will derail the economy and we will be bankrupt, like Cuba.

Oh, try this on for size---in 2017 yes, that's less than 9 years; the bill on the bailout will be due and payable and if we cannot pay the bill??? We will be bankrupt and owned by foreigners whom sucbscribe to sharia law.

What WE THE PEOPLE should want to know is how long the DEMS think they can count on Americans being as "stupid" as the ACLU and DEMS think Americans are?

What we as American's need to to is make sure to LEGALLY and LEGISLATIVELY not leave WASH DC alone till all our freedoms flag, allegience, constitution are "iron-clad" protected. Make sure WASH DC applies the brakes to spending and "everyone" and we mean "everyone" in the bailout is made to pay that money back, and to have WASH DC apply ceilings, and caps and restrictions to all bailout moneies from the first company to the last and make sure all companies are accountable for every penny they receive.

what great orator, Pres, author said--Tolerance only becomes wrong and EVIL when it is given and applied to criminals.

whom was it whom said----All that is needed for tyranny to reign is for good men to do nothing? or---think let someone else do it and that WE THE PEOPLE don't need as a constituent of this Nation to be "bothered" with being involved to make WASH DC protect WE THE PEOPLE.

Whom was it who said---Those whom don't learn from history are doomed to repeat history??

feel free to cut paste and re-print refute rebuttal or just plain comment.

Posted by: SassyFrassy at December 21, 2008 1:31 AM

"In summer, there's fishing and screwing, in winter, there's not much fishing." -- Formula 1 champion Kimi Raikkonen, in response to a reporter's question on what there is to do in Finland.

Abdullah Tami, by contrast, will soon be doing a lot of stoning and flogging.

Posted by: 17_9_1787 at December 21, 2008 2:13 AM

"Now why can't these muslims make the same connection?

Posted by: Celsius "

Muslims are not escaping from tyranny and oppressions....they are bringing it..

Posted by: pulsar182 at December 21, 2008 6:11 AM

And I too ask, what "asylum"? My Finnish friends told me that there are thousands of Somali Muslim refugees pouring into Finland, taking full advantage of the socialist system, filling their shopping carts with gourmet food while the aging population of ethnic Finns are struggling to even afford to eat. I saw this phenomenon myself this past summer, and was appalled at the mountains of food the Somalis were piling up in their carts in a Helsinki supermarket, as opposed to the Finns, who had only the bare necessities. If this is asylum, then I am Queen Noor.

Posted by: The Little Gripper at December 22, 2008 4:45 PM