I certainly would like to think we have anything in common with Islam or Allah or Mohammad. No nothing of the sort, and that is the truth.

Posted by: savsiv at December 29, 2008 1:58 PM

A quick trip to Afghanistan, Pakistan or Saudi Arabia should clear things up.

Posted by: Abby at December 29, 2008 2:07 PM

Step 1. Put Rev. Susan Boegli in a full burqha.

Step 2. Marry the Rev. Susan Boegli to an elderly muslim man whom she does not wish to marry. When she flees, immediately allow muslim husband to "honor kill" her.

Step 3. Repeat steps 1 & 2 with all females in audience.

Step 4. Let them bask in the "differences" that are in the "details".

Step 5. In a years' time, re-interview all those who have survived. Publish these interviews far and wide.

Posted by: No More Ham, Ed at December 29, 2008 2:08 PM

"[Muslims and Christians share] the same principles of loving one another"
-- from the article above, quoting Rev. Susan Boegli

No, that is not what Muslims are taught. They are taught that their loyalty (not exactly their "love") is to be offered ONLY to fellow Muslims. They are never taught to "love their fellow man," if that fellow man might include non-Muslims who resist conversion to Islam. For them, the only possible outcome is death, or forced conversion or, at best, the status of dhimmi, one of humiliation, degradation, and physical insecurity.

It would be good if the susan-boeglis of this world felt that they had a duty of due diligence, a duty to find out about things they presume to instruct others about.

Yes, there have been people not performing due diligence, and not only on Wall Street.

Posted by: Hugh at December 29, 2008 2:22 PM

Jesus never did interfaith with the rabbis of Judaism and the Roman religions at the time. How can she do it. Christians are called apes and pigs and Muslims are ordered to kill them. Esposito need his kids burqas and this woman need her kids multilated in fgm. I bet she wont say they serve the same god then. Or may be does serve the same god, satan. sura 3:54. No true Christian would ever say kill all muslims. Marry 4 permanent wives andas many misyar and muta wives as you can pay for.

Posted by: tilly at December 29, 2008 2:23 PM

How this sort of nonsense makes me want to tear my hair out in fistfuls.

I think this church would be better off by doing a study on Robert's book, 'Religion of Peace?'

Posted by: Mo at December 29, 2008 2:31 PM

"We all share the same God, the same principles of loving one another, of peace and justice," Boegli said. "How we do that, the difference is in the details, and that's one of the things this class is going to address."

Am I to assume that Rev. Susan Boegli has already done a comparison study of the tenants of Islam Vs. the New Testament of the Bible, never mind of course that Mohammed called the New testament a corrupted book by the Jews who wrote it.

Yes Rev. Susan Boegli you are hopefully about to enter the gate of Islam with such an ignorant view or comment like that with thought of gaining some enlightment about the clash of Christain Values Vs. Islamic values, unfortunatly you have chosen the wrong instructor for the job.

No Rev. Susan Boegli we do not share the same god at all with Islam, there is barely a trace of the same teachings that Christians follow.

Posted by: Mackie at December 29, 2008 2:39 PM

""We [Christians and Muslims] all share the same God"

No, we don't.

Posted by: FreeSpeech at December 29, 2008 3:22 PM

How this sort of nonsense makes me want to tear my hair out in fistfuls.

Amen to that, but prepare to be not just bald, but to scalp yourself.

Susan Boegli is just a snowflake on the tip of an iceberg, and unfortunately, all those millions of snowflakes look alike.

Consider the National Council of Churches, an international organization, but here are the stats just for North America:

"The NCC's member faith groups — from a wide spectrum of Protestant, Anglican, Orthodox, Evangelical, historic African American and Living Peace churches — include 45 million persons in more than 100,000 local congregations in communities across the nation."

Now look at their official position on Islam:

The head of the U.S. National Council of Churches Bob Edgar has a bleeding heart for the prisoners in Gitmo, called it a "crime against humanity";

in March 2004 the NCC organized a press conference and “silent walk” through Washington, D.C., on behalf of the Guantanamo prisoners --
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=3A1E5505-37E5-4375-AA69-3F9170D818D5

After Virginia Congressman Virgil Goode publically stated his repudiation of swearing in on a Koran, "the NCC circulated a petition entitled an “Interfaith Call for Reconciliation in Congress,” demanding Congressman Goode’s apology for inflaming rural Virginians against Muslims, “who feel targeted by repression and abuse...and a growing climate of fear.”

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=A79DB397-24DC-4347-AABD-3B64E2B6A913

When the film "Obsession" came out, the National Council of Churches issued this statement:

"While this film purports to educate and offers, at the outset, a disclaimer that it is not about the majority of peaceful Muslims, we see its content as serving only the aims of distorting truth and misleading viewers, fanning the sparks of mistrust, bigotry, and hatred that undermine the very foundations of a multi-religious democracy"

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=0d180a61-7580-4caf-840e-e81da5074be7

When some Islamic clerics issued a manifesto a year ago claiming to be against terrorism etc., the National Council of Churches, according to this report --

...hailed the Islamic outreach, saying it will fuel the “urgency” of the NCC’s own Muslim-Christian dialogue. Part of the NCC’s own interfaith ministry, as Shanta Premawardhana described it, is standing “in solidarity with Muslims at a time when many Muslims in the United States faced significant levels of discrimination,” post 9-11.

Premawardhana thanked the Muslim clerics and scholars for speaking out against Muslim “extremists.” Similarly, he boasted, the NCC is trying to “counter the voices of extremist Christians with initiatives aimed at teaching Christians about Islam and helping churches build relationships with mosques in their local communities," Premawardhana added.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/articles/Read.aspx?GUID=3A242A6A-7476-49D2-A5C8-CEDA64CD711A

Jihad Watch had a good article exposing the lies of that "Common Word" manifesto:

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/020105.php

Posted by: DenverRodeo at December 29, 2008 4:09 PM

"We all share the same God, the same principles of loving one another, of peace and justice,"

Nothing, and I mean NOTHING could be further from the truth when speaking comparatively of Muslims and Christians.

Posted by: awake at December 29, 2008 4:12 PM

I would like to know, first and foremost, who allowed this person to become a reverend. Secondly, I would like to know through which institution she acquired this "knowledge" about these two religions. Lastly, I would like to evaluate the cirriculum that this person was given in order to obtain her position within the church, and upon reviewing that, ban not only the institution from further education of future priests/reverends/pastors, etc., as well as strip this woman of her title. Like Mo, the first thing I felt moved to do was rip my hair out; thank the Judeo-Christian God that I am at work and such impulses would yield unsightly results!!! Argh.

Posted by: Heidi J at December 29, 2008 4:29 PM

One thing we do all share for sure is the same Internet. Any one curious enough will eventually get to this site (and others).

Posted by: Seymour Paine at December 29, 2008 4:34 PM

DenverRodeo,

First, thank you for providing those links. In the bible, or more specificaly the New Testament, despite the call for loving "thy enemy" and turning the other cheek, it is hard for me to beleive that God created, and then sacrificed his one and only Son for, a group of apathetic, wet blankets. I mean, yes, we are to love and treat others as we would want to be treated; we, as Christians I should add, are to be beacon's of God's light in a dark world. However, we are denying the teachings of Christ, that he is the light and the way to heaven, and that there would be no other prophets after him but those that are false prophets, by engaging and catering to the Islamic faith. Plain and simple. There needs to be a massive overhaul and reformation within the Islamic belief system and doctrine before they can even be considered a "religion of peace" and love. Though, they will never, and those who know the God of Israel should know well, should never be considered of the same ilk of a true Abrahamic faith. It is absolutely absurd, and shameful that these folks of the cloth would entertain this false perspective and sell their savior and His teachings up the river in the name of political correctness...I pray for them.

Posted by: Heidi J at December 29, 2008 4:40 PM

She obviously can't be aware that the Methodist preacher John Wesley described Islam as follows:

Ever since the religion of Islam appeared in the world, the espousers of it... have been as wolves and tigers to all other nations, rending and tearing all that fell into their merciless paws, and grinding them with their iron teeth; that numberless cities are raised from the foundation, and only their name remaining; that many countries, which were once as the garden of God, are now a desolate wilderness; and that so many once numerous and powerful nations are vanished from the earth! Such was, and is at this day, the rage, the fury, the revenge, of these destroyers of human kind. – John Wesley, The Doctrine of Original Sin, Works (1841), ix. 205.

I'm sure that Wesley will be rolling in his grave if he knows that First United Methodist Church's Rev. Susan Boegli said "We [Christians and Muslims] all share the same God, the same principles of loving one another, of peace and justice". Yes, a 13 weeks class and still be as dumb as a sack of hammers about Islam at the end of it.

Posted by: Spirit Of 1683 at December 29, 2008 5:22 PM

Please please please will someone in or near Salem help acquaint the Rev Boegli with the facts about Islam? I'm too far away.

Posted by: jewcat at December 29, 2008 5:53 PM

Say, for example, you know an all-around swell guy named Jerry. Your co-worker knows another person who is a self-absorbed, unreliable slob, but is also named Jerry. Do you have to assume you know the same Jerry? (Apologies to anyone named Jerry.)

The same goes not only for "God," but for what constitutes "peace" and especially "justice."

And it's not hard to see that love is an afterthought in the Qur'an and ahadith; submission is Job #1. Searches on the word "love" in the Qur'an do not turn up the agape concept of self-sacrificing/self-giving love on the part of the deity. Rather, the word connotes attachment e.g., "I love fishing"), approval, or preference, but not unconditional love.

Posted by: MarisolJW at December 29, 2008 6:16 PM

Note to Susan Boegli:

Some tiny familiarity with the Qur'an, say with these passages:

3:28
5:51
48.29

and a hundred other similar passages in the Qur'an, which, by the way, can be examined, in several different English translations laid out synoptically, and many hundreds of the most "authentic" Hadith, and much of the Sira (the biography of Muhammad), and the many commentaries by Muslim jurisconsults, and the many works by Muslim theologians and historians of Islam, all lead to a conclusion, about what Islam teaches, that flatly contradicts your dreamy assertion -- you, like so many Wall Street racketeers and their handmaidens, apparently think you need not perform due diligence, but you really must, you owe it to your undoubtedly too-trusting flock (though there may be some keen and suspicious members of that flock less-inclined to accept your assurances about Islam) to do so -- yes, that assertion, which is:

"We [Muslims and Christians and Jews] all share the same God, the same principles of loving one another, of peace and justice"

and which, as an example of ignorance and idiocy as a statement about Islam, can scarcely be surpassed.

Posted by: Hugh at December 29, 2008 7:33 PM

She will ride her unicorn to every meeting.

Posted by: profitsbeard at December 29, 2008 7:47 PM

Step 1: Place soapbox firmly in a Saudi Arabian 4-way intersection

Step 2: Begin to preach the gospel of Jesus Christ

Step 3: Enjoy your shiny new headstone!

Such...Bullcrap...

Posted by: Callidus at December 29, 2008 9:36 PM

"We all share the same God, the same principles of loving one another, of peace and justice," Boegli said. "How we do that, the difference is in the details...

The devil is in those details...This woman is so open minded her brain has fallen out...

The good Reverend is going to get her fingers burnt...

Posted by: duh_swami at December 29, 2008 10:03 PM

I wouldn't be surprised to hear that some moslems/imams from the local mosque show up at the sessions to make sure that what is being presented doesn't make islam out to be unlike Christianity....as happened in my local church one Sunday.

Posted by: eve_anne_gelical at December 29, 2008 10:41 PM

Allah is Not the God of the Bible:

"Muslims believe that there is no other God besides Allah and that he is the God of the universe. They claim that not only is he their God, but that he is the God of the Jews, the Christians and everyone else. When examining the profile of the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and comparing it with Allah’s profile, there are a number of distinct differences between them that can only result in one conclusion: These profiles simply do not match! Allah is NOT the God of the Bible!"

"The Islamic faith, through the teachings of Muhammad, asserts that Allah is God and attempt to place him within the confines of the Holy Scriptures. When the Bible contradicts their teachings, they allege that it is flawed, has been tampered with, and has many errors. They further claim that the Koran, through the teachings of their prophet Muhammad, corrects them. However, it has already been established that Muhammad was both a false prophet and teacher. Therefore, Islam’s allegations are unsupported, baseless and without merit."

"There are a number of major differences between the God of the Bible and Allah. This chapter will focus upon five reasons why they are not the same. According to the Holy Scriptures, the God of the Bible is the one true God while Allah is a false god."

Above excerpt:
http://www.kingmessiahproject.com/is_allah_not_God.html

Posted by: champ at December 30, 2008 12:31 AM

Everything I need to know about how the Christian God is different from the Muslim god I learned in Sunday School (in the olden days when Christian churches were Christian):

1. Christians worship the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

2. Christians believe in the Trinity, the Triune God: Father, Son and Holy Ghost.

3. The Christian God had a Son. This Son was fully man and fully God. This Son walked this earth, lived a sinless life, was crucified on a cross, died and was resurrected. "Behold the lamb of God which taketh away the sin of the world."

These are not minor details: these are central to our identity as Christians.

Christians and Muslims do not "share the same God". We worship different, easily distinguishable deities.

Rev. Susan Boegli needs to go back to Sunday school. Or maybe it's too late: maybe she's another one of those new Muslims who is pretending she's still a Christian, even though she no longer believes in the divinity of Christ.

Posted by: Josephine at December 30, 2008 12:33 AM

Ladies and gentlemen

I herewith second jewcat's heartfelt comment above - "Please please please will someone in or near Salem help acquaint the Rev Boegli with the facts about Islam? I'm too far away".

From the article:

" A 13-week class about Islam will be available at First United Methodist Church {in Salem, Oregon?) - starting in January.

"The weekly class will feature the Islam section of the Great World Religions DVD series taught by John L. Esposito, professor of religion and international affairs and professor of Islam at Georgetown University."

Here are the salient details:

"First United congregant Case Veldhuisen will facilitate the class, to be held 7 to 8:30 p.m. every Monday, Jan. 12 to April 6 in Room 222 of the church, 600 State St."

And here, for the benefit of any enterprising jihadwatchers and/or members of ACT for America who may happen to live within easy travelling distance, and might be able to make that time on those dates...

"The class is free. To participate, call the church at (503) 364-6709."

One could, if properly prepared, with perhaps some of our own davegreybeard's informative little leaflets tucked in the back pocket, or a printout of 'Islam 101' from this very website, or a copy of Wolfgang Bruno's essay 'Islamic Dictionary for Infidels'

http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/012406.php

or Henry Kadoch's useful little article, 'Islam-speak',

http://frontpagemagazine.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=CB861004-4459-4E25-932B-6029CBC8BA9D

make things...interesting, for the attendees of that cosy little series of propaganda sessions.

Doing a google search of the jihadwatch website in order to unearth some of the scathing things that Our Hugh has had to say about the doings and writings of John Esposito, flim-flam artist, bought-and-paid-for tool of the Saudis, and shill for the jihadists, could also be very handy, especially if you print out a few copies to discreetly share with anyone who shows signs of intelligence.

Here's a sample: Hugh Fitzgerald: A Tribute to John Esposito.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/010526.php

Hugh sums up Esposito and his ilk in just two lines at the end:

"Shilling for Islam, undoing the West,
Radix malorum cupiditas est."

If you can, if you possibly can, do please go along to this '13 week course on Islam' and spoil the fun.

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at December 30, 2008 3:04 AM

It is dawa, plain and simple, most probably planned and encouraged by Muslims.
She is a tool, to to be used. An useful idiot.

Posted by: pr126 at December 30, 2008 3:25 AM

PS

Those wishing to upset the applecart at First United Methodist, might also arm themselves with other materials.

They might like to consult, inter alia, Paul Fregosi, 'Jihad in the West', or Serge Trifkovic, 'Sword of the Prophet', or one of the websites devoted to the Turkish Muslim jihad genocide of the Armenians, and Bat Yeor's and Bostom's books, to find some choice examples of the 'peace' and 'tolerance' of Islam-as-practised: from every period and every part of the Islamosphere, horrors that are remarkable in that they are so unvaryingly alike.

There are all sorts of stories one could share, after one has made sure to refer to Quran surah 48:29, which denies the Golden Rule, and to the principle of al-wala we al-baraa, 'loyalty [to Muslims ONLY] and enmity [toward all kafir, always and everywhere, until and unless they become Muslims]'.

One thinks of the murder of pregnant Tali Hatuel and her little girls, unarmed and defenceless, shot point blank, or Samir Kuntar's exploits on the beach (shooting a Jewish man in front of the man's little daughter and then whacking the little girl's head with a rifle butt and a rock, and the hysterical adulation heaped by Arab Muslims upon Samir Kuntar because of this and the praises that declared him 'the conscience of the Arab nation' [!!!!]), or the kidnap and 'conversion' of those two little Catholic girls, Anila and Saba Masih, in Pakistan, as recounted here in successive stories on jihadwatch...

or the beheading of the three little catholic schoolgirls in Indonesia,

or perhaps, in the hope that it just might be shocking enough to get through the fog of 'we're all the same and we all want the same things', or 'we all do bad stuff sometimes', the terrible details of what was done to a pregnant and defenceless Rivka Holzberger by the jihadists, in the Chabad House, in Mumbai, this November (if that one is told, the teller ought at least to get their attention for a few seconds before the PC filters kick in...after the women present have finished vomiting).

The denial of the Golden Rule and the systematic dehumanising of the kafir, makes it so much more likely that Muslims will commit atrocities of the most appalling kind.

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at December 30, 2008 3:54 AM

This is the E-mail for The First United Methodist Church of Salem,Rev. Susan Boegli: mindis@wvi.com

Posted by: casey92 at December 30, 2008 5:08 AM

The First United Methodist Church of Salem,Rev. Susan Boegli: mindis@wvi.com
http://www.salemfirstumc.org/contactus.html

Posted by: casey92 at December 30, 2008 5:33 AM

Walid Shoebat on whether we worship the same God.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-zX9d1Yt3g&feature=related

Several hours long in multiple parts, well worth watching.

Posted by: km at December 30, 2008 6:39 AM

"allah" is not a god, he is Satan.

Posted by: CGW at December 30, 2008 6:54 AM

Why doesn't somebody contact her and tell her the truth?

Posted by: CGW at December 30, 2008 6:55 AM

Just wondering if any of these people who are in such a rush to "teach" people about mohammedanism feel any urgency to convey any comparable quantity of stuff about Hinduism, Buddhism or dare I say it, Judaism.

Just wondering ...

Posted by: joeblough at December 30, 2008 8:27 AM

The God of the Holy Bible is not the same God as in the Koran. Plus if Muslims worship the same God, why do they bow 5 times a day to a moon rock god?

Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 at December 30, 2008 8:58 AM

There is no allah but the one true God and Muhammad is no prophet.

The Rev Susan Boegli is another naive dupe of "inter-faith" dialogue meetings, where smiling two-faced imams display and hone their taqiyya skills.

When are Mohammadens going to teach TRUE Christianity to their hate-filled followers in their mosques, not the distorted and twisted version they teach in madressahs?

It will be a cold day in hell before that happens!

Posted by: Shafee al-Zindig at December 30, 2008 9:20 AM

Rev. Susan Boegli is an idiot. Worse than that she is in a position to bastardize Methodism. Christ wants us to love our enemies. This does not imply that we should stand passively at the side while the enemy butchers our families in the most horrible ways imaginable.
I have been a Methodist all my life (72 years) and I am occasionally sickened by the Boegli's in our midst. Reading of select passages in the Quran and exposure to pictures and videos of atrocities committed on a daily basis in the name of Islam should be mandatory for anyone who believes Islam is a religion of peace. What will it take for these ignorant people to understand that Islam is a religion, government and law that is impossible to exist in a Republic?
The peaceful masses of Islamists are silent because they fear for their lives, not because they necessarily embrace the life style.
Boegli does not represent mainstream Methodism! She is a radical among many (unfortunately) in the Council of Churches.

Posted by: sheepdog at December 30, 2008 10:26 AM

Rev. Susan Boegli is an idiot. Worse than that she is in a position to bastardize Methodism. Christ wants us to love our enemies. This does not imply that we should stand passively at the side while the enemy butchers our families in the most horrible ways imaginable.
I have been a Methodist all my life (72 years) and I am occasionally sickened by the Boegli's in our midst. Reading of select passages in the Quran and exposure to pictures and videos of atrocities committed on a daily basis in the name of Islam should be mandatory for anyone who believes Islam is a religion of peace. What will it take for these ignorant people to understand that Islam is a religion, government and law that is impossible to exist in a Republic?
The peaceful masses of Islamists are silent because they fear for their lives, not because they necessarily embrace the life style.
Boegli does not represent mainstream Methodism! She is a radical among many (unfortunately) in the Council of Churches.

Posted by: sheepdog at December 30, 2008 10:28 AM

I deal with these leftist "christians" all the time.
They cannot get it through their heads that islam is not peace and love. I just have to be wrong.

Is the nature and purpose of allah the same as the nature and purpose of the Biblical God? NO

Posted by: interestinconundrum at December 30, 2008 10:46 AM

What an idiot.

Posted by: Mr.Fitnah at December 30, 2008 1:56 PM

It is so sad that christian/church leaders are ignorant about the Bible which clearly states in
1John2:22 that " antichrist is the one that denies
the Father and the Son." and that is clearly alla
or allah,islam,mohammad,muslims and quran.
How can antichrist and christ means the same?

Posted by: om1945 at December 30, 2008 2:50 PM

This church and the Rev. Susan need to have a 13 week course of Christ and the Bible. Something they are obviously void of.

Having a steeple and people does not make you Christian Rev. Susan.

And if having an 'Islam class at the church makes sense' then she is showing she lacks wisdom and is not familiar with the Book she represents.

If 'Islam makes sense' then why not Budda, Hindu, Satanism? Why does Rev. Susan pick just Islam, take them all maybe there are bits and pieces she will like from each one.

And if 'we all share the same God, and the same principals of loving each other' than maybe she could have Prof. John Espisito go on the record and state that 'the Jews have the right to Israel and that John Espisito loves Jews'.

Posted by: alaskan1000 at December 30, 2008 9:05 PM

salem1st@wvi.com
mailto:revsue@wvi.com

Posted by: Mr.Fitnah at December 30, 2008 11:33 PM

Rev. Susan Boegli is mistaken, and her church is being lead away from the truth. If you stay in this church, you need to correct this, bring it up to her. Challenge her with the teachings of the Bible, and what is in the quran.

If they do not listen, it is then time to leave this church.

The Bible says to study, to know the word of God, and that would include a crack of the quran to back up and confirm what this preacher is teaching.

You can not stay and embrace, and listen to, somthing you know to be wrong. To do so will find you on a wide path.

Posted by: Islofob IS-1 at December 30, 2008 11:44 PM

'Walid Shoebat on whether we worship the same God.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-zX9d1Yt3g&feature=related

Several hours long in multiple parts, well worth watching.' km

I saw that before, watched the whole thing; which is something in itself. A timely perspective. Interesting to say the least. Good one.

Posted by: sainte at December 31, 2008 2:15 AM

An email to Rev. Naive Boegli:

Hopefully in your presentation of Islam, "We all share the same God, . . . ", "the difference is in the details, . . . ", some of your congregation will be curious enough to read the Quran, related Islamist teachings (hadiths, e.g.), and critiques by many scholarly and concerned people who have learned about and know of the very existential and mortal (read: threats to) differences between Islam vs Western civilization, and see that Allah and their Christian God are in fact not the same -how can there be sameness between that which exists and that which doesn't: there IS no Christian God according to Islam. It will become clear to them that Islam IS NOT a loving and peaceful faith, it is not it's intention to be equal to any other religion, or compromise in any way with false religions (i.e., any that are not Islam) and mens' governments. Islam and Sharia law (read it, the Quran, for God's sake, that is, YOUR God), can be the ONLY way of life, and any who oppose it ultimately must die -or, submit to a second class/slave type existence.

Ok, I may be sounding a little alarmist here. Perhaps it will not be as horrific and barbaric and end as all that. But, be not mistaken. Islam IS a barbaric ideology. Global Islamization will evolve probably mostly through "stealth jihad" (spend some time reading about and understanding that term. In a small way your presentation is just that, a submission to soft jihadism), with some severe acts of terror thrown in to be persuade.

Your, and those like you, unconditional loving heart and open mind are vulnerable to the deadly disease that is Islam. Muslim requests, or more accurately, demands for compromises in western norms, your understaning and way of life style, to accommodate Islamist/Sharia interests/sensitivities (we lose, they gain) are becoming prevalant (such incidents are numerous, and continuous, research it and discover for yourself). It's soft entrapment, a slippery slope. Don't fall into a grade of no return.

Seoul, South Korea)

Posted by: nobulsht at December 31, 2008 3:53 AM

The people who "Reverend" Susan Boegli is shilling for would put her to her proper use and into her proper place.

She doesn't deserve the freedom and respect that she prostitutes so openly.

The slattern should be deported to Arabia or Somalia immediately.

Posted by: joeblough at December 31, 2008 4:31 AM

Perhaps Susan Boegli should try telling a Mohammadan that he worships the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob! That would soon put her on the right path.

Posted by: Sencit at December 31, 2008 8:32 AM

First United Methodist Church's the Rev. Susan Boegli said having an Islam class at a Christian church makes sense.

I agree. In fact I am still searching for a church that teaches a class on Islam, though I would expect a text more like Mark Durie's Revelation.

Allah is not YHWH. Muslims are not like Christians. Islam is not peace.

Posted by: Concerned Citizen at January 1, 2009 11:17 AM

I invited the Right Rev to comment , unfortunately she is to busy or disinterested in explaining her thought process

Posted by: Mr.Fitnah at January 1, 2009 12:04 PM

Did Mohammed have any "interfaith" reflections?

“Abu Huraira reported that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon hlm) said: I have been given superiority over the other prophets in six respects: I have been given words which are concise but comprehensive in meaning; I have been helped by terror...”

Hmm--I don't recall Ezekiel or Jesus raving about being helped by terror. Could be Islam really doesn't have all that much in common with Judaism and Christianity.

Posted by: gravenimage at January 2, 2009 8:44 PM