From article: Bay told the court he had been influenced by media reports of other attacks against Christians, including the shooting death of Andrea Santoro, another Italian Catholic priest, in the Turkish Black Sea city of Trabzon in 2006.

So Bay had no reason to stab the Priest other than he was stimulated by news reports of other Christians under attack, so he thought he might as well join in. He just likes fighting and stabbing, and Christians are easy targets...Thats the extent of his philosophy? Or is there something more, a little deeper? Religious conviction maybe? A burning desire to please Allah by 'rubbing out' a
kufr priest?...Allah is happy with him and protecting him...That's why the 4 year sentence...

Posted by: duh_swami at December 30, 2008 10:29 PM

Reuters primly omits the unpleasant fact that throat-slitting might almost be regarded as the least awful of the horrors that were inflicted upon those three Christians - one a native German, the other two being Turkish apostates from Islam to Christianity.

They were tied to chairs and then systematically tortured for THREE HOURS before the Muslim jihadist murderers *finally* slit their throats.

Here, from an earlier report, on jihadwatch April 21 2007,

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/016148.php

are just some of the stomach-turning, mind-wrenching details of what was done by the jihadist assassins and sadists to just one of those three men, who was, it seems, still barely alive when found - he died in hospital. One must assume that similar, or worse, cruelties were inflicted upon the other two.

"Dr. Murat Ugras, a spokesman for the Turgut Ozal Medical center, told the daily Hurriyet of hospital surgeons' fruitless efforts to save Ugur Yuksel, one of the three victims of the massacre at the Zirve (summit) publishing house, which distributed Christian literature.

"He had scores of knife cuts on his thighs, his testicles, his rectum and his back," Ugras said.

"His fingers were sliced to the bone. It is obvious that these wounds had been inflicted to torture him," he said. END QUOTE.

What is truly remarkable is this: the two apostates may well have been 'invited' to 'return' to Islam, to avoid or end the torture, to save their lives. If so: it seems they said No to that invitation, and stuck to the No, for they were tortured, and killed. When a Muslim Turk truly turns Christian, it appears that even a Turkish Muslim bent on murder cannot bring him to renounce the Lord.

Let these two Turks-turned-Christian, and their German Christian companion stand in honour, three names added to the long, long roll of the Saints and Martyrs of Asia Minor. Let us remember St Ugur Yuksel and St Necati Aydin and St Tilmann Geske.

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at December 31, 2008 3:05 AM

dda:

There were other atrocities suffered by these three men, as well as those mentioned. Acts so horrible, it confirms my view that Islam is truly Satanic and every mosque is a synagogue of Satan.

Posted by: Sencit at December 31, 2008 7:53 AM

Sencit

we could remember, also, what was done to the Jew, Ilan Halimi, in Paris:
http://www.nysun.com/foreign/tale-of-torture-and-murder-horrifies-the-whole/27948/

"The murder of a 23-year-old [Jewish] cell-phone salesman, Ilan Halimi, took place over three weeks, during which he was tortured while his [Muslim] captors tried to extract a ransom from his family.
{curious that - it's so similar to what has been done by jihadists, over and over, to the Christians in Iraq - dda}.

"On February 11, four days after the abductors stopped communicating with the family, Halimi was found, still alive, not far from a railway line at Sainte-Genevieve-des-Bois, about 15 kilometers south of Bagneux.

"He was naked, handcuffed, and bleeding profusely.

" He was incapable of speaking. His entire body - or "80% of it," according to police - had been butchered."

"He died of his wounds on the way to the hospital, just a few minutes after he was discovered." END QUOTE

Similar horrors were inflicted by a gang of murderous Muslims, upon a Scots non-Muslim teenager, Kriss Donald, in Scotland: " abducted on 16 March, and then stabbed in the lungs, liver and kidney. He was then covered in gasoline and set on fire".

And horror was also inflicted by sadistic demon-possessed jihadists, upon Gabriel and Rivka Holzberger, in Mumbai: I don't have a link but someone here passed on the report of a Sikh doctor who said that the jihadists cut her open - while she was alive - and ripped the five-months fetus from her womb so they could murder it separately from its dying mother.

Remarkable, isn't it? Pakistani Muslims in Scotland, 'African' Muslims in France, Turkish Muslims in Turkey, Pakistani Muslims on the rampage in Mumbai among Hindus and Jews - and they ALL do EXACTLY THE SAME sort of things to defenceless non-Muslims. Same pattern. Same profile.

All over the Islamosphere and in its colonies, we find Muslims, in the name of 'allah', doing the kinds of things that among kafir are done only by the very worst psychopathic serial killers.

And whereas in our societies such killers are repudiated, rejected, and relentlessly hunted down and punished, in Muslim societies they are consciously and deliberately fostered, trained and validated; and if they become rulers, no-one is allowed to stop them even when they start doing it to their fellow Muslims, as well as to kafir (consider what Saddam Hussein and his sons got up to).

Robert Redeker summed it up in his Le Figaro article.

After remarking that 'Jesus is a master [maitre: master, teacher, instructor] of love", Redeker added:

'Mohammed is a master [Fr maitre: master, teacher, instructor] of hate."

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at December 31, 2008 6:42 PM

Another alarming aspect of this throat-slitting business: I have been told that halal butchery is a rather easy road to immigration, similar to the hairdressing-and-hospitality courses which Indians find useful for obtaining residency papers. Muslim butchers are perpetually in demand, as once a holder of a work visa for halal butchery has spent two years cutting animals' throats, he can apply for residency and find other work, and other immigrant butchers are needed; it goes on and on.

It seems to me that Muslim butchers are not necessarily ideal immigrants...this immigration loophole needs to be looked at. If they can't find butchers here already, too bad, they should eat non-halal meat or become vegetarian. Oh. If there are not enough butchers, they will kill animals in their own back yards or balconies. Damn.

Just another problem with no solution to add to the mess we have made.

Posted by: PG at December 31, 2008 8:25 PM

"Robert Redeker summed it up in his Le Figaro article.
After remarking that 'Jesus is a master [maitre: master, teacher, instructor] of love", Redeker added:
'Mohammed is a master [Fr maitre: master, teacher, instructor] of hate."

Sadly Robert Redeker is now living like a fugitive in his own country because he told the truth on islam.

Posted by: Péguy at January 1, 2009 1:01 AM

"If a Christian had attacked and stabbed a Muslim in Turkey, would he too get four years, or would he be executed?"

More brilliant accuracy from Dhimmi Watch the place to come to for accurate news on the Muslim world

Turkey abolished the death penalty 7 years ago

LOL

http://archives.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/meast/08/03/turkey.death.pen/index.html

Posted by: stillistanbul at January 1, 2009 9:31 AM

Christians in Turkey number barely 100,000 in a total population of nearly 75 million.
........................

And why would that be? Most likely because of the deliberate policy begun under the aegis of the Ottoman Empire with the Armenian genocide, then continued as a process of "Turkification" under Ataturk and his regime.

This resulted in the expulsion and wholesale murder of millions of Armenians, Greeks, Jews and Levantines (Europeans who had lived in Turkey for over two hundred years). What did all these diverse groups have in common? They were all non-Muslim.

more:

A court in the coastal city of Izmir in western Turkey passed the sentence against Ramazan Bay for stabbing Adriano Franchini, Anatolian news agency reported. Franchini survived the attack.
..................

If "Izmir" sounds vaguely familiar, it might be because the city was known, until early in the 20th century, as "Smyrna". Smyrna was, at the time, the most prosperous city in Turkey. It had a large and very industrious population of both Muslims and non-Muslims.

In 1922, Attaturk and his forces, as well as local Turks, burned most of the city--the Armenian quarter, the Greek quarter, the Jewish quarter, the Levantine quarter--to the ground, along with many surrounding Greek villages. Refugees were driven to the quay, where many of them were butchered or driven into the sea.

Only a small remnant survived, when ships belonging to Western powers belatedly began rescuing them. Greece took in the largest number of refugees, most of whom escaped with nothing but the clothes on their backs.

So Izmir has a long and nasty history regarding its treatment of Infidels.

Posted by: gravenimage at January 1, 2009 11:08 PM