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January 1, 2009

Maldives' Ministry of Islamic Affairs asks police to ban discos on New Year's Eve

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Haram. So very, very haram.

They're unconstitutional, you see, because Islam is the basis of all laws, and the mixing of the sexes that occurs in discos is un-Islamic. "Ministry Asks Police To Ban Discos," by Ibrahim Mohamed for Minivan News, December 31:

The ministry of Islamic affairs appealed to the Maldives Police Service on Wednesday to end to all the discos organised for New Year’s Eve celebrations.
Police sergeant Ahmed Shiyam confirmed Dr Abdul Majeed Abdul Bari, the minister of Islamic affairs, had made an official request to the police commissioner, Ahmed Faseeh, for police to take action regarding this matter.
“We will be taking steps in accordance to the ministry’s request,” said Shiyam, but he did not comment on what action the police would take.
Dr Bari refused to comment on the issue on Wednesday.
Sheikh Mohamed Shaheem Ali Saeed, the state minister of Islamic affairs, said the ministry had formally requested the police stop the discos from taking place because they were contrary to Islam. He added the ministry had received complaints from the public.
“We have received hundreds of complaints asking for a ban on the DJs,” he said. “So, the number of people who are against having DJs is greater than the number who wants them."
“Even a police official has informed us that they have also been receiving complaints.” he said.
According to Shaheem, it is haram or forbidden in Islam for both sexes to dance together.
Article 10 of the Constitution states the religion of the Maldives is Islam and Islam shall be the basis for all laws in the land.
Although Article 27 stipulates everyone has the right to freedom of expression, the right only exists as long as it is “not contrary to any tenet of Islam”.
Shaheem said the ministry had met with and advised some of the people organising the events.
“They said a lot of money had been invested to organise the events and it would be a great financial loss if the discos were cancelled,” he said. “They added they would not organise more discos in the future.”
Hussain Ibrahim, a prominent lawyer, agreed there was no law which permitted discos.
Ibrahim, also a former constitutional assembly member, said discos were forbidden in Islam and as such would be contrary to the Constitution.
“I can’t believe it,” said 25-year-old Ali Hussain after hearing the ministry’s decision. “It’s a big surprise. I’ve been celebrating New Year’s Eve for the past five years by going to discos. Boys and girls want to dance to music on this night.”
Hussain added if discos are banned, circumcision parties should also be forbidden.
“In circumcision parties, men and women dance very closely, so the ministry’s decision is unfair.” he said.

Duly noted.

Posted by Marisol at January 1, 2009 12:03 AM
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Take THAT, 70's idol John Travolta!

Posted by: Callidus [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 1, 2009 12:06 AM

Not coming to a Muslim country:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=v7YAU8CTInw&feature=related


You can post your own candidate for Never-Coming-To-A-Muslim-Country below.

Posted by: Hugh [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 1, 2009 12:09 AM

I think I'll make it a Blockbuster night. Saturday Night Fever here I come! What a fun movie.

"...it is haram or forbidden in Islam for both sexes to dance together."

No fun in Islame :-(

Billy Idol dances with himself...."Dancing with myself.....uh oh....dancing with myself!! Suppose they could always follow Billy's example:

"Dancing With Myself"

On the floor of Tokyo
Or down in London town to go, go
With the record selection
With the mirror reflection
I'm dancing with myself

When there's no-one else in sight
In the crowded lonely night
Well I wait so long
For my love vibration
And I'm dancing with myself

Oh dancing with myself
Oh dancing with myself
Well there's nothing to lose
And there's nothing to prove
I'll be dancing with myself

If I looked all over the world
And there's every type of girl
But your empty eyes
Seem to pass me by
Leave me dancing with myself

So let's sink another drink
'Cause it'll give me time to think
If I had the chance
I'd ask the world to dance
And I'll be dancing with myself

Oh dancing with myself
Oh dancing with myself
Well there's nothing to lose
And there's nothing to prove
I'll be dancing with myself

If I looked all over the world
And there's every type of girl
But your empty eyes
Seem to pass me by
Leave me dancing with myself

So let's sink another drink
'Cause it'll give me time to think
If I had the chance
I'd ask the world to dance
And I'll be dancing with myself

Oh dancing with myself
Oh dancing with myself
If I had the chance
I'd ask the world to dance
If I had the chance
I'd ask the world to dance
If I had the chance
I'd ask the world to dance

[Scat]

Dancing with myself
Dancing with myself
Dancing with myself
Dancing with myself

If I looked all over the world
And there's every type of girl
But your empty eyes
Seem to pass me by
Leave me dancing with myself

So let's sink another drink
'Cause it'll give me time to think
If I had the chance
I'd ask the world to dance
And I'll be dancing with myself

Oh dancing with myself
Oh dancing with myself
If I had the chance
I'd ask the world to dance
If I had the chance
I'd ask the world to dance
If I had the chance
I'd ask the world to dance

Happy New Year Everyone!!!!

Posted by: champ [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 1, 2009 12:17 AM

"Hussain Ibrahim, a prominent lawyer, agreed there was no law which permitted discos."

And that which is not explicitly permitted is absolutely forbidden. Not the sign of a healthy society.

Posted by: Raymond Woodbury [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 1, 2009 12:27 AM

"Never-coming-to-a-muslim-country" ?

"Tabhair dom do lamh"

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=nSna38LVS98

Posted by: del [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 1, 2009 1:02 AM

"Hussain Ibrahim, a prominent lawyer, agreed there was no law which permitted discos."

As Raymond says, a very unhealthy society where that which is not expressly permitted is denied.

I wonder if they have Maldive laws permitting people to breathe?

While the Qur'an and Ahadith are very encompassing, even they make some assumptions about things which are permitted, even though they are not expressly mentioned.

Of course, for a book supposed to be the unchanging Word of Allah, 'coupon valid for all time', its prescriptive rules fall further and further behind in a modern world full of technology. Things like making the assumption that the fastest way to travel was by camel (unless you believe Mohammed on his Buraq got to Jerusalem when he said he went to the 'furthest mosque").

Posted by: Gharkad [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 1, 2009 1:26 AM

Circumcision parties? Those sound like no fun at ALL.

Posted by: Bigshaker [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 1, 2009 1:48 AM

Another "Never-coming-to-a-muslim-country":

"Village Green Preservation Society" (this is the Kate Rusby version of the Kinks original).

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=iRK6U5vIHCs

Posted by: del [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 1, 2009 1:51 AM

Happy New Year! We have to remember how important it is to have the freedom to celebrate.

Happy New Year to Robert, Hugh, Raymond and Marisol, and all the rest of the JW staff. Many happy returns to all (non-troll) readers and posters here.

And there’s a hand, my trusty fiere!
And gie's a hand o’ thine!
And we’ll tak a right gude-willy waught,
For auld lang syne.

--Bobby Burns

Posted by: gravenimage [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 1, 2009 2:33 AM

Maybe have only same sex discos, but just don't call them gay - should solve this problem ;-)

Posted by: Infidel Pride [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 1, 2009 4:21 AM

HAPPY Jewish, Buddhist, Zoroastrian, and Hindu, Christian, Coptic, Atheist, Pagan, Wiccan and agnostically philosophical NEW YEAR Everybody !!!!

We don't want to fight tonight.

We just want to feel alright.

Feel alright tonight.

Too bad the curse of islam doesn't allow us to TRULY celebrate and discuss our DIVERSITY of beliefs and religions in a truly open, respectful and unthreatening manner.

Imagine the common ground that could be found in fully open and honest disagreement.

Where each and every one of us could carry forth the best petitions of our talking partners in full knowledge that they are weighing our thoughts just as respectfully and in equal intellectual and spiritual curiosity as we consider theirs.

I am not the great writer that Hugh Fitzgerald and Robert Spencer are, so please don't let my lack of erudition get in the way of what I an trying to convey.

The open and completely unthreatened discussion and exchange of our concepts and ideas hurts absolutely noone but the aggressive closed-minded purveyors of islam.

As a self-taught Freudian I have to declare islam a supremely dangerous mental disorder, one that preys on the most primitive and barbaric instincts of Man.

The way islam integrates itself into the very societies it overcomes is ingenious by way of casting all critics and even more so the reluctant as "enemies within", to be named and punished at any time of convenience.

As primitive as islam appears to those of us who consider ourselves safely away and out of the crosshairs of its relentless irredentism, we fail to even nearly appreciate the socially inescapable ways in which it has its hooks in the collective psyche of those who emanate from within its cultural and collective sphere.

islam is truly a virus which infects the minds and souls of even the most caring and upstanding of people, especially when they are born right into it, which is our blessing to not have been subject to.

The natural reaction among so-called "non-believers" to reject and often ridicule this rigid and openly hostile creed only serves to solidarize its adherents, while at the same time it creates dissent among those it seeks to subdue and conquer.

That dissent and evaluation is quite natural among free-thinking peoples who prize freedom and diversity of Thought.

Yet islam is set up to recognize this essential human quality of diverse individual discourse as a weakness, which it cunningly exploits to further its goals.

Ask yourselves.. you irredentist skeptics of my words.. what happened to that HIGH CULTURE OF EGYPT?

Who burned down the Library of Alexandria?

Who removed the marble covering the steps of the pyramids of Egypt?

What ever happened to the high cultures of India and Iran?

When you have pondered these things.. THINK.. !! THINK.. dear friends.. DO WE WANT TO BE NEXT.. ?!!!


Posted by: Ummah Gummah [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 1, 2009 4:32 AM

Who burned down the Library of Alexandria?

Posted by: Ummah Gummah

Mais non! Muslims have formidable applications for cultural goods.

During the Middle Ages, perfumes, incense and all sort of aromatic powders were commonly wrapped in cones of papyrus. The Arabic word qirtas for a cone of perfume evolved from the Latin word charta, originally a leaf of papyrus. For a long time written papyri were burned for their sweet smell. (The Roman writer Apicius, in his cookery book, gives recipes for roast sucking pig wrapped in papyrus.)

In 1778 a European merchant in Egypt purchased a copy of the Book of the Dead which was part of a collection of some 50 papyrus rolls offered for sale, and the rest were simply burned by the vendors for the aroma. See E.G. Turner, Greek Papyri: An Introduction, 2nd edn (Oxford, 1980), pp. 18-19 and 89-90.

Posted by: Hugo Schmidt-Fischer [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 1, 2009 8:17 AM

Perhaps Robert Spencer could inform us which religions DO allow discos?

Does his Catholic church ?

Posted by: stillistanbul [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 1, 2009 9:18 AM

"Who burned down the Library of Alexandria?"

The notion that Muslims did is a medieval fiction

Several historians told varying accounts of a Arab army led by Amr ibn al 'Aas sacking the city in 642 after the Byzantine army was defeated at the Battle of Heliopolis, and that the commander asked the caliph Umar what to do with the library. He gave the famous answer: "They will either contradict the Koran, in which case they are heresy, or they will agree with it, so they are superfluous." The Arabs subsequently burned the books to heat bathwater for the soldiers.[20][21] It was also said that the Library's collection was still substantial enough at this late date to provide six months' worth of fuel for the baths.[22] However, this account has been dismissed by some as a legend.[18] While the first Western account of the supposed event was in Edward Pococke's 1663 translation of History of the Dynasties, it was dismissed as a hoax or propaganda as early as 1713 by Fr. Eusèbe Renaudot. Over the centuries, numerous succeeding scholars have agreed with Fr. Renaudot's conclusion, including Alfred J. Butler, Victor Chauvin, Paul Casanova and Eugenio Griffini.[18] More recently, in 1990, noted Middle East scholar Bernard Lewis argued that the original account is not true, but that it survived over time because it was a useful myth for the great Twelfth century Muslim leader Saladin, who found it necessary to break up the Fatimid caliphate's collection of heretical Isma'ili texts in Cairo following his restoration of Sunnism to Egypt. Lewis proposes that the story of the caliph Umar's support of a library's destruction may have made Saladin's actions seem more acceptable to his people.[23]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_of_Alexandria#Amr_ibn_al_.27Aas_conquest_in_642

Posted by: stillistanbul [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 1, 2009 9:21 AM

The attribtution, to Muslims, of the destruction of the library at Alexandria is false, as the poster just above explains (and certainly of interest is Bernard Lewis's argument that Saladin helped, for his own Sunni purposes in cutting down to size the Shi'a Fatimids). But the millennium of disinterest in everything outside of Islam, a contempt for the Infidels and their world as one of dismissable ignorance or Jahiliyya, a contempt that continues till today, save in one area -- that of military technology --where there is great and abiding interest, is surely of more significance. In a sense, all the Western or non-Islamic or pre-Islamic libraries have been burned down in the minds of Muslims. It is only in those places where Islam has been systematically constrained, as happened under Ataturk in Turkey, and a secular class of a size sufficient to withstand, at least for a while, the mental diminishments and abasements fostered by Islam (which encourages the habit of mental submission to Allah, who always Knows Best, and whose rules must never be questioned). And the poster above is, no doubt, writing from Istanbul, one of the beneficiaries of those systematic constraints placed by the farseeing Ataturk on Islam as a political and social power, but the recent history of Turkey suggests that like Rasputin, Islam keeps coming back, and that unless that secular class that benefitted from the mental freedoms that Kemalism made possible is vigilant and unafraid to keep fighting, Turkey may relapse into something akin to, if not quite as bad, as Iran under the Islamic regime instituted by Khomeini and his troglodytes, or the impossible Islam of the Arabs, whose ethnic identity reinforces, rather than works against (as in the case of Turks and Persians), Islam.

Posted by: Hugh [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 1, 2009 9:51 AM

I'm trying to figure out what "disco" sounds like in those wild and crazy Islamic countries. Could it be something like:

More than vagina...
More than vagina to me...

(My profound apologies to the Brothers Gibb)

Maybe it's more like:

Freak out!
Le freak's a sheik... (Look, just pretend it rhymes, okay?)

Expressing a common sentiment among Muslim men:

You are the Dancing Queen
Young and sweet
Too bad you're not pre-teen...

Sharia compliant:

We are family,
Check out our consanguinity...

Posted by: Stormwarning [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 1, 2009 11:04 AM

"Perhaps Robert Spencer could inform us which religions DO allow discos? Does his Catholic church?" - stillistanbul

I'm sure Mr. Spencer can answer fine for himself, but allow me to respond for him and "his" Catholic Church. There is a significant difference that even you should be willing to admit, stillistanbul, between simply DISAPPROVING of discos, which Catholicism may or may not do (I'm pretty sure the Pope hasn't made any official pronouncements about disco dancing) and NOT ALLOWING them or the expression of ANYTHING "contrary to Islam" to exist, and then codifying this into the law of the land because there is no separation of church and state in Islam, which is the point of this article and its introductory comment.

Posted by: Bigshaker [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 1, 2009 11:25 AM

"But the millennium of disinterest in everything outside of Islam, a contempt for the Infidels and their world as one of dismissable ignorance or Jahiliyya, a contempt that continues till today, save in one area -- that of military technology --where there is great and abiding interest, is surely of more significance"
Hugh

Except this is ignorance of Islamic history. In every society that "triumph" there is of course always a lack of interest in the cultures they vanquished but Muslims always showed interest in for example Greek philosphy becoming its great
scholars. The first history of the world was written by Muslims. In India for example Biruni and Imam Shahrastani wrote a great deal about Indias history culture and religion.
Ever heard of Ferdowsi? He wrote Persias national poem ShahenShah about pre-Islamic Persia from donations by the Muslim Sultan. And there are many example of this.

Anyone who has studied Islam knows that knowledge of jahilli poetry is essential in understanding the Quran. Ibn Abbas companion of the Prophet and considered the greatest commentator of the Quran
said if you find an unusual phrase in the Quran you should refer to the poetry of the Arabs.

You cant have it both ways - you claim all the inventions from the classical Muslim world were stolen from previous non-Muslim cultures then claim Muslims have no interest in other cultures.

Your hatred makes you irrational


Have you ever studied Islamic history ?


Posted by: stillistanbul [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 1, 2009 11:28 AM

"Perhaps Robert Spencer could inform us which religions DO allow discos?

Does his Catholic church ?"

Yes.

Among our local congregation of Our Lady and St Wilfrid, the Catholic Women's League used to run a disco and a youth club. The Anglican, Methodist, Church of Scotland, and do likewise.

Regarding the Maldives, they are cutting their own throats because tourism is a significant part of their economy. The tourists can always go someplace else.

Posted by: Monty [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 1, 2009 11:32 AM

"I'm sure Mr. Spencer can answer fine for himself, but allow me to respond for him and "his" Catholic Church. There is a significant difference that even you should be willing to admit, stillistanbul, between simply DISAPPROVING of discos, which Catholicism may or may not do (I'm pretty sure the Pope hasn't made any official pronouncements about disco dancing) and NOT ALLOWING them or the expression of ANYTHING "contrary to Islam" to exist, and then codifying this into the law of the land because there is no separation of church and state in Islam, which is the point of this article and its introductory comment."

Bigshaker

Great. So are there any discos in the Vatican?
Is anything allowed there "contrary to Catholicism" ?

Posted by: stillistanbul [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 1, 2009 11:35 AM

"The first history of the world was written by Muslims."

Uh...No, but thank you for playing. The Holy
Bible is a written history of the world, which predates any commentary by Muslims. In addition, I'm reasonably sure there are older texts than the Bible, which describe the creation and history of the world--ancient Indian texts come to mind.

Posted by: Stormwarning [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 1, 2009 12:12 PM


"Uh...No, but thank you for playing. The Holy
Bible is a written history of the world, which predates any commentary by Muslims. In addition, I'm reasonably sure there are older texts than the Bible, which describe the creation and history of the world--ancient Indian texts come to mind."

stormwarning

Oh dear. You appear to be confusing the origin of the world with the History of the World. The Bible doesnt talk of the History of ancient India or China

The first comprehensive history was written by Rashid ad Din

http://www.saudiaramcoworld.com/issue/198101/a.history.of.the.world.htm

Posted by: stillistanbul [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 1, 2009 12:23 PM

stillistambul,

i don't remember that FUN is mentioned in the Koran. does that mean Allah does not allow for fun for anyone?

Posted by: boakai ngombu [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 1, 2009 12:34 PM

"Oh dear. You appear to be confusing the origin of the world with the History of the World."

Seems to me that a history of the world would have to begin with the origin of the world.

Posted by: Stormwarning [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 1, 2009 12:54 PM

"Great. So are there any discos in the Vatican?
Is anything allowed there 'contrary to Catholicism'?" - stillistanbul

Again, in your desperate attempt at moral equivalency, you have willfully missed the point.

Posted by: Bigshaker [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 1, 2009 1:27 PM

'Circumcision parties'??? I never heard of that, but from the name, I don't think I want to know.
He must be talking about FGM parties...I know they exist, but I have never been to one...

Posted by: duh_swami [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 1, 2009 1:54 PM

It seems that the idea of the Muslim transmission of Greek thought to Europe could be nearly completely unfounded.

Professor Sylvain Gouguenheim, of the University of Lyon, persuasively makes this argument in his recent book, "Aristote au Mont Saint-Michel" (Editions du Seuil). A brief (and evenhanded, I might add) review can be found at:

http://bustill.blogspot.com/2008/04/aristotle-at-mont-saint-michel-europes.html

An excerpt:

"He says that Aristotle's works on ethics, metaphysics and politics were disregarded or unknown to the Muslim world, being basically incompatible with the Koran. Europe, he said, "became aware of the Greek texts because it went hunting for them, not because they were brought to them.""

"Gouguenheim calls the Mont Saint-Michel monastery, where the texts were translated into Latin, "the missing link in the passage from the Greek to the Latin world of Aristotelian philosophy." Outside of a few thinkers - he lists Al-Farabi, Avicenne, Abu Ma'shar and Averroes - Gougenheim considers that the "masters of the Middle East" retained from Greek teaching only what didn't contradict Koranic doctrine."

Posted by: Marwan'sDaughter [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 1, 2009 2:09 PM

"Great. So are there any discos in the Vatican?
Is anything allowed there "contrary to Catholicism" ?"
Posted by: stillistanbul

Good thing we in the West have separation of religion and state, and bad thing you Muslims don't like it and try to undermine it every chance you get.

There, that was easy. Smoke cleared away. Next!

Posted by: DenverRodeo [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 1, 2009 7:03 PM

you must be seriously stupid or dishonest like a mohamedan to compare the Vatican with the Maldives

Posted by: Péguy [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 1, 2009 9:46 PM

only a stupid mohamedan can compare the Vatican (where noone lives except people who work for the church) with the Maldives

Posted by: Péguy [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 1, 2009 10:35 PM

stillistanbul wrote:

So are there any discos in the Vatican?
..................

Rome is full of discos, clubs, restaurants and other forms of nightlife. There is no great crusade (so to speak) by the Vatican to shut down discos in Rome--or, as would be more analagous to the story at hand, throughout Italy.

Here are pictures from Rome's famous GOA nightclub:

http://www.inromenow.com/Images%20for%20Website/GOAChannel.gif

Posted by: gravenimage [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 1, 2009 11:22 PM

stillistanbul's problem is that he 'can't dance, and it's too wet to plow'...

Posted by: duh_swami [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 1, 2009 11:57 PM

From the post above: Anyone who has studied Islam knows that knowledge of jahilli poetry is essential in understanding the Quran.

Uh huh...And I thought knowledge of Arabic was what was essential, at least thats what many claim. So stillistanbul go's it one better, now we are informed that we must have knowledge of jahilli poetry, as well as Arabic, to understand the Quran...

So why do Mohammadans print Qurans in English and other languages for Mohammadans who know neither Arabic or jahilli poetry? This revelation would make the Quran in English useless, and a lie...

How do those billions of illiterate Mohammadans come by the truth of Quran without those two crutches? Are they being duped?

I suppose we are to believe that Allah was a fan of jahilli poetry when he passed those verses to Mohammad...And Allah purposely put the poetry there, with the Arabic, as sort of a code.

If the Quran is a manual of conduct and ideology for all Mohammadans, what would be the point in writing it in code?

Posted by: duh_swami [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 2, 2009 12:17 AM


Gravenimage -

just to go with your New Year's greeting above, inserted into this thread on the music-hating party-pooping sharia enforcers (and let us never forget that they dream of violently imposing their anti-music anti-life anti-art rules upon us all!)

some thoughts that may resonate with freedom-loving music-loving non-Muslim humans; coming in late, on the evening of 2nd January Australian time.

It is the famous Christmas Broadcast of King George VI, from 1939. Its final paragraph speaks of stepping through the Gate of the Year into darkness. I have posted it in a couple of other threads where I thought it appropriate.

To revisit the King's words, in these dark and dangerous days, as both the Combat Jihad and the Stealth Jihad gather momentum, and as Israel fights for its life against the jihadists of Hamas, and as India vacillates after the jihad ghazi raid conducted against it from Islamic Pakistan, and the Filipino Catholics and Thai Buddhists are perpetually attacked by murderous jihad assassins,

is to be moved almost to tears both by certain obvious congruences between their predicament, and ours, but also by the terrible contrast between then and now.

For King George VI could speak of unity and a shared purpose among those opposing the Axis;

which is not truly the case today;

we are divided and vacillating, and almost all of those countries and societies presently assailed by Jihad have barely even begun to recognise the name and nature of the enemy, and the resistance is sporadic and to a certain extent unfocused; though Israel is dealing hammer-blows to Hamas as we write.

However: the King's closing words, from the words "I believe from my heart..." speak out of the past as if they were written directly to all who today are gathering themselves to resist Jihad and Sharia.

http://www.royal.gov.uk/OutPut/Page3591.asp

GEORGE VI (r. 1936-1952)

Christmas Day Broadcast, 1939. Britain and France had declared war on Germany just three months earlier on 3 September 1939

'The festival which we know as Christmas is above all the festival of peace and of the home.

'Among all free peoples the love of peace is profound, for this alone gives security to the home.

'But true peace is in the hearts of men,

'and it is the tragedy of this time that there are powerful countries

'whose whole direction and policy are based on aggression and the suppression of all that we hold dear for mankind.

'

It is this that has stirred our peoples and given them a unity unknown in any previous war.

'We feel in our hearts that we are fighting against wickedness, and this conviction will give us strength from day to day to persevere until victory is assured.

'At home we are, as it were, taking the strain for what may lie ahead of us, resolved and confident.

'We look with pride and thankfulness on the never-failing courage and devotion of the Royal Navy, upon which, throughout the last four months, has burst the storm of ruthless and unceasing war.

'And when I speak of our Navy today, I mean all the men of our Empire who go down to the sea in ships, the Mercantile Marine, the mine-sweepers, the trawlers and drifters, from the senior officers to the last boy who has joined up.

'To every one in this great Fleet I send a message of gratitude and greeting, from myself as from all my peoples.

'The same message I send to the gallant Air Force which, in co-operation with the Navy, is our sure shield of defence.

'They are daily adding laurels to those that their fathers won.

'I would send a special word of greeting to the Armies of the Empire, to those who have come from afar, and in particular to the British Expeditionary Force. Their task is hard. They are waiting, and waiting is a trial of nerve and discipline.

'But I know that when the moment comes for action they will prove themselves worthy of the highest traditions of their great Service.

'And to all who are preparing themselves to serve their country, on sea or land or in the air, I send my greeting at this time.

'The men and women of our far-flung Empire working in their several vocations, with the one same purpose,

'all are members of the great Family of Nations which is prepared to sacrifice everything that freedom of spirit may be saved to the world.

S'uch is the spirit of the Empire; of the great Dominions, of India, of every Colony, large or small.

'From all alike have come offers of help, for which the Mother Country can never be sufficiently grateful.

'Such unity in aim and in effort has never been seen in the world before.

'I believe from my heart that the cause which binds together my peoples and our gallant and faithful Allies is the cause of Christian civilisation.

On no other basis can a true civilisation be built.

'Let us remember this through the dark times ahead of us and when we are making the peace for which all men pray.

'A new year is at hand.

'We cannot tell what it will bring. If it brings peace, how thankful we shall all be.

'If it brings us continued struggle we shall remain undaunted.

'In the meantime I feel that we may all find a message of encouragement in the lines which, in my closing words, I would like to say to you:

'I said to the man who stood at the Gate of the Year,

"Give me a light that I may tread safely into the unknown."



'And he replied, 
"Go out into the darkness, and put your hand into the Hand of God {note: 'God' in this is YHWH - the God of the Bible - dda}.



'That shall be to you better than light, and safer than a known way."'

'May that Almighty Hand guide and uphold us all."

SO ENDS THE KING'S SPEECH.


Posted by: dumbledoresarmy [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 2, 2009 4:24 AM

"Great. So are there any discos in the Vatican?"

Stillistanbul, it has obviously escaped your notice that the Vatican is full of aged scholarly clergymen with hearing aids and arthritis. It's hardly going to attract a disco audience, you fool.

Posted by: Monty [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 2, 2009 11:44 AM

I don't get it.

The two sexes cannot dance together

I heard homosexuality is wrong in Islam

What's going on? I'm confused. Maybe I should submit to political correctness and strap a bomb on my back.

Posted by: SkinneeJay [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 2, 2009 11:44 AM

Didn't the Maldives get elections and voted out a mullah dictator educated in Al Azhar just two months ago?

If anyone thought that the Maldives had become democratic, let them realize how the law is used in the country: Namely just to curtail basic freedoms, like the freedom of enjoyment by dancing and having fun with friends on New year. Meanwhile corrupt and greedy rulers still rule by means of enforced religion.

The dictator was only the figurehead of the spirit of tyranny that is still very much ruling the country. But since Muslims don't use their God-given brains, they shall take a long time to know.

The road to freedom is still very long and there will be bitter years in between for Maldivians.

Posted by: rocky [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 2, 2009 11:37 PM

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