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Dutch Muslim: ‘Murder is normal’

Nov 8, 2004 7:03 am By Robert Spencer

From Zacht Ei (thanks to LGF), a Muslim in Amsterdam explains his position on the van Gogh killing on Dutch TV:

Anchor: Today in several mosques one paid attention to the murder of Theo van Gogh during the Friday prayer. Imams told their flock that the murder was a violation of all principles of Islam. But not everone agrees.

Voice-over. The first part of the Friday prayer in the Barang (?) mosque in the Amsterdam precinct of Bos en Lommer was devoted to the murder on Theo van Gogh.

First man: The imam said that he finds the murder horrible and he expressed his compassion with the family and beloved ones of Theo van Gogh. And that this is unacceptable according to all values of Islam. This kind of individual action is not tolerated in Islam.

Note: “This kind of individual action is not tolerated in Islam.” So the problem is that the murderer of Theo van Gogh was a freelancer. If he had been acting out the will of the ulama, well! That would have been a different story. But notice that the imam, at least according to this report, didn’t seem to say anything about the murder being immoral in itself.

Second man: If you hear something like this, you start thinking in a different way. Like, yes, the imam is right, it’s not allowed, it doesn’t belong in Islam.

Third man: This man (the imam) has given his personal response. He’s not expressing everyone’s point of view. I say, if he (Mohamed B., the murderer) wouldn’t have done it, I could have done it, or somebody else would have done it. Because, that man (Van Gogh) went too far. He had all the possibilities.

Interviewer: You mean, it’s self-evident that it has happened?

Third man: It’s very self-evident. He had his freedom of speech, but he has never tried to start a discussion or debate. He called Muslims goat fuckers. He received all attention to express that Muslims…

Interviewer: So the murder was in fact a just act?

Third man: That’s my opinion. Not everybody’s opinion, but that’s my opinion. It is just.

Interviewer: But you do agree this doesn’t fit the way we think in the Netherlands?

Third man: It’s not about the way we think. I’m married myself to a Duth woman. I have five children who have been raised here in the Netherlands. If you try to insult their mother, then this reaction is very normal.

Interviewer: But don’t you think that murder can’t ever be considered normal?

Third man: Murder is normal. Why wouldn’t murder be normal? What happens in Iraq? What do the Americans do to the Iraqi’s? Did the Iraqi’s ask for that? That’s murder as well, and everone has accepted that. Everyone thinks that that’s ‘deadly normal’.

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