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“We will win, and they will die”

May 6, 2009 5:33 pm By Robert Spencer

A befuddled CNN reporter interviews a forthright jihadist in Afghanistan. “Afghan Taliban spokesman: We will win the war,” by Nic Robertson for CNN, May 5 (thanks to Winds of Jihad):

…The man in front of me is Zabiullah Mujahid — one of two spokesmen for the Afghan Taliban leader Mullah Mohammed Omar.

He is around 30, maybe a little younger, bearded, but not heavily so. He is slight but not weak and close to my height — a little over six foot — and meeting him is a big deal….

My first question is simple: What’s your strategy?

He tells me the policy is clear. “We ask from the beginning and we say once again one to enforce the Sharia law and Islamic government in Afghanistan, and to remove foreign forces remove from our country.”

He tells me presidential elections expected this year are a sham, that the Taliban are telling Afghans to stay away and he warns: “We will target the Afghan parliamentary members and government officials so if there is elections, yes it is clear we will target them.”

He says they’ll use suicide bombers in their attacks. I want to know how they justify tactics that kill so many civilians. I find his answer falls far short of even trying to explain let alone apologize for the carnage they cause. He says it is justified in Islam, it has its roots in history and Islam’s Prophet Mohammed.

That’s not what most Muslims I talk to say; they abhor such nihilistic thinking….

Good. How is it that they explain this verse? “Lo! Allah hath bought from the believers their lives and their wealth because the Garden will be theirs: they shall fight in the way of Allah and shall slay and be slain.” — Qur’an 9:111

I ask what are the conditions for going into talks? “Our conditions are clear, we want to negotiate and they [the U.S.] will not interfere in our affairs, secondly they [the U.S.] will leave the country, third let the Afghan people to do what they want to do, like form the Islamic government they want to establish.”…

At one point he laughs when I say he is up against the strongest army in the world. His point is Taliban fighters are not afraid of dying. “If they want to send the troops and change things … we believe they can’t do anything.

“Afghanistan will be the Vietnam for them, concerning their policy, it is the same Bush policy. There no changes in this policy. I want to tell you clearly we will win, and they will die.”…

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