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Ali Sina: “Pamela Geller and her organizations don’t become hate groups just because a bunch of moon-bats say so”

Jan 28, 2012 10:22 am By Robert Spencer

The indomitable Ali Sina of Faith Freedom has been in a discussion of sorts with Sheila Musaji of The American Muslim, who is an established liar. His latest piece addressed to her brilliantly answers the principal charges that Leftists and Islamic supremacists routinely make against Pamela Geller and me, and our organizations.

(I have reproduced it below as it appears in the original; “Namazi” is of course the communist antisemite Maryam Namazie, and “Bari” is Rifqa Bary.)

…Let us continue:

It is both surprising and not surprising that Ali Sina has now been named to the Board of Directors of the newly formed Stop the Islamization of Nations SION
which is a coalition SIOA, SIOE, and other hate groups, and which will
be led by Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer.  It is not surprising
because of the animosity towards Islam that he shares with Geller and
Spencer.  It is surprising because of the fact that Geller herself is
Jewish, and Ali Sina seems to have as much animosity towards Judaism as
he does against Islam.

Perhaps this is above your ken but what unites Pamela Geller (a Jew),
Robert Spencer (a Catholic), Wafa Sultan (a secular humanist), Babu
Suseelan (a Hindu) ,and yours truly, is our humanity. We have different
beliefs, but we don’t allow that to divide us.  To a Muslim this might
be incomprehensible. You see the world divided on religious lines.  We
don’t see it that way. We see all mankind as members of one gigantic
human family.  We have different tastes in politics and in religion. But
we never let them come between us and divide us.

I receive many emails from youths who say they no longer believe in
Islam and want to become Christian. I never discourage them. Let me
quote what I wrote to one such youth yesterday.

This 22 year old Somali woman wrote to Pamela Geller and told her
that she wants to be a Christian.  She added, “However, i know that if
my family [comes to] know about this they will surely end my life since
it will bring them shame in our community. Once my father found a bible
in my drawer and he told me that if he founds it there again he will do
something to me that i will regret forever. I feel unsafe here and am
looking for a way out please help me before it is too late.”

Pamela asked me to reply and here is a few passages from my email to her:

“Faith is a very personal matter. It is
a relationship you have with your God.  No one can take it away from
you and you don’t have to speak about it to anyone.   Jesus did not
start a new religion. He wants to have a personal relationship with
you.  As long as you have him in your heart, he is with you even if you
don’t attend any church or interact with other Christians.  

If you live in your parent’s home, you
need to live by their rules. Don’t keep a Bible at home and don’t have
any cross or anything that may make them think you are a Christian.  You
don’t need to do any baptism either.  Love of God is your baptism. Soon
you will be out of your parent’s home and will be more independent.

“¦

Meanwhile I suggest you act with
caution.  Time will pass fast. Study hard and get the best education you
can. Education is your key to freedom. If you have a good education you
can get a hired sooner and afford getting out of your parental home
faster. You may even go and live in another city or another country.  

If you want to read the Bible you can
find it online. If you want to discuss your faith with anyone you can
find Christian communities online.  Don’t share your thoughts with
anyone. Study, study and study!  This is the fastest way to your
freedom.”

Pamela is a Jew and I am a humanist. But neither of us discouraged
this girl from following the path that she had chosen for herself.  We
don’t care about people’s faiths. We care about their lives.  We don’t
divide mankind along religious lines.  There is no such thing as
believers/unbelievers, the faithful and the kafir in our lexicon. What
matters, is our humanity and what makes us human is not what we believe,
but how we live.

You are a Muslim. You are genuinely incapable to see that we are
humans first, and religion is nothing compared to the strong string of
humanity that runs through the core of all of us and binds us together
like the beads in a rosary.  You see the world from the tainted glasses
of Islam. What you don’t know is that those glasses come from the mind
of a psychopath narcissist.  Islam is insanity.  This is not an insult. 
This is my thesis and I have proven it. Read my book and you too will
agree.

You then continued:

The Southern Poverty Law Center published a report citing Geller for hate speech.  The AFDI has been named a hate group
by the Southern Poverty Law Center.  The American Freedom Defense
Initiative is the parent group of the SIOA.  Spencer, Geller, and
Yerushalmi are featured in the SPLC reports Jihad Against Islam and The Anti-Muslim Inner Circle.

Yes I know. These traitorous leftist organizations are your lackeys. 
What unites them with you Muslims is your common hatred of the
Judeo-Christian western values.  But they are stupid.  They think by
supporting fellow haters of the western values they will be stronger and
you will help them to come to power. All they have to do to see their
folly is to talk to fellow commies from Iran. Let them talk with Maryam
Namazi from UK.  Namazi and her comrades were instrumental in the
revolution of 1979 in Iran. They threw their lot with Islamists. But
they were the first who were eliminated when Khomeni took power.  If
Islam ever comes to power in Europe or in America, all those left
leaning organization that today defend Islam will be the first to be
eliminated.  Those who don’t read the history, tend to repeat the same
errors.

Pamela Geller and her organizations don’t become hate groups just
because a bunch of moon-bats says so.  Pamela has demonstrated her
compassion and care for countless hapless and helpless young Muslims
whose own families have turned against them.  Young Muslims write to her
from all over the world asking for help. This woman should be awarded
the Nobel Prize for her humanitarianism and for her compassion.  Alas
the Nobel Prize committee is so politicized that they think charlatans
like Arafat, Obama and Al Gore are more deserving for that prize than
good humans who truly serve mankind.

One of the saddest stories is when Gore was granted the Nobel Prize
for lying about global warming there was a 92 years woman named Irene Sendler,
who was also a nominee.  She had saved some 2,500 Jewish children from
the Nazi Holocaust by smuggling them out of Warsaw Ghetto, in her basket
and tool box.  I felt a lump in my throat when I read her story and 
that instead of her the committee chose this filty liar.

I don’t give a damn about those organizations calling Pamela Geller a
hate monger.  I can see how much she cares about people. I saw how she
took to heart the case of Rifqa Bari and protected that beautiful soul
when her parents wanted to kill her.

Where were you to protect Rifqa? Why young Muslims don’t write to YOU
to protect them from their families and write to Pamela?  Because they
know you are a hypocrite Islamist and all you care is your damn
religion, but Pamela is a humanitarian who cares about them and is not
concerned about what religion they believe.  I have seen people write to
her and say they want to stay Muslim but just want to be free from the
tyranny of their parents and Pamela still advised them compassionately
and tried to help them without ever telling them they should leave Islam
first.

 Pay Pal at least temporarily suspended Geller’s site Atlas Shrugs for being a hate site.

Sure! They did it because a bunch of Muslims like you wrote to Pay
Pal lied about Pamela and libled her of spreading hate.  When Pay Pal
realized they had been duped they reversed their decision.

Actually, Musaji is here lying yet again. PayPal never actually suspended Geller at all.

You then said

Spencer and Geller attempted to patent the SIOA trademark, but were refused by the U.S. patent office The
government response, posted on the site, states, “The applied-for mark
refers to Muslims in a disparaging manner because by definition it
implies that conversion or conformity to Islam is something that needs
to be stopped or caused to cease.”

 That is because our Governments are misled. They consider
Islam a religion and as such it is protected.  That is why we formed
SION (Stop Islamization Of Nations) to educate and to unmask Islam. 
Islam is not just a religion. It is more a political ideology of
domination. It must be classified as such. It is more akin to communism
and Nazism than it is to other faiths. Muhammad said al Islamo deenun wa dawla
(Islam is both religion and government.) One cannot be separated from
another. This is what people don’t know. It will take some time to make
the world aware of it. But we are patient and determined.  More
prominent people are joining SION from all over the world. We are poised
to become a powerful international force.  And we will go after
traitors who sell their country for vote.  We will expose them. We know
that anytime a politician supports Islam we have to follow the money
trail to find a skeleton in their closet. That is what we intend to do.

 The Center for American Progress released a groundbreaking report Fear Inc.: The Roots of the Islamophobia Network in America. 
The key researchers for this report were Wajahat Ali, Eli Clifton,
Matthew Duss, Lee Fang, Scott Keyes, and Faiz Shakir.  The report itself
is the result of a six month investigative project, and is 132 pages in
length.  Geller is cited as part of this network.

Oh really!? So a bunch of Muslims and their minions got together and
cited Geller as Islamophobe? And what else is new?  I repeated many
times that Islamophobia is a fallacy. Geller is a defender of the
Western civilization.

Musaji quotes several other organizations that are either run by
Muslims or are sympathetic to Islam that denounce the critics of Islam
as “Islamophobe”. In her opinion this is “evidence.”  In Persian we have
a saying: They asked the fox who will testify on your behalf, he said
my tail. Or better than that is when Allah backs up Muhammad.  Who gives
a damn if Muslims and their minions call us hate monger? This is
circular reasoning.  I talk about facts and I have shown that we are not
hate mongers, but Muslims are.

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