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Canada: Would-be jihad mass murderer tells court he was “forced to show my sex,” rants about gay marriage

Jan 29, 2014 4:09 pm By Robert Spencer

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True to form for a mainstream media story, there is no indication in this Canadian Press article that Chiheb Esseghaier is a Muslim, much less an Islamic jihadist. There are numerous quotations of him referring to “God,” leaving the uninformed reader with the possibility that he could be a deranged “right-wing Christian extremist.” His previous insistence that he be judged only by the Qur’an instead of by Canadian law is not considered fit to reiterate here.

Anyway, Esseghaier’s rage about this supposed strip search is consistent with accounts that Islamic jihadists in prison the world over have given of their supposed “tortures”: an al-Qaeda manual a few years back told imprisoned jihadists always to claim that they had been tortured, and their accounts frequently revolve around sexual humiliation.

“VIA terror plot accused Chiheb Esseghaier tells court he was ‘forced to show my sex,’ rants about gay marriage,” by Allison Jones for the Canadian Press, January 29:

TORONTO — A man accused of plotting a terrorist attack on a passenger train spent most of what was supposed to be a quick, procedural court appearance ranting about a strip search and gay marriage.

Chiheb Esseghaier, 31, one of two men charged in the alleged Via Rail plot, began the hearing by complaining that he had just been subjected to a strip search and “forced to show my sex.”

He suggested that if a guard at the court thought he had contraband smuggled in from jail, it was an indictment of the justice system.

“When you don’t have confidence between each other and you doubt each other, then your system is weak,” Esseghaier told the judge.

“From where I would get the weapon? From where would I get the drug? I have been in my cell for the past nine months.”

Superior Court Judge John McMahon patiently explained that there are many such cases, but it wasn’t long before Esseghaier began butting heads with the judge.

Esseghaier has often used court appearances to rant about the Criminal Code, saying he refuses to be judged by it because it was created by humans, not God, and is therefore imperfect.

But Wednesday marked the first time the case had come before McMahon.

The judge allowed Esseghaier, who is unrepresented, to rant for a few minutes before suggesting several times it would be in the accused terrorist’s best interests to get a lawyer.

Esseghaier bristled at that, shouting “Excuse me” at the judge.

“You interrupted me and I want to be able to finish,” Esseghaier said.

“The Criminal Code, as I said, is written by humans…we are putting the laws of God behind our back and are following the laws of humans.”

Esseghaier began gesturing forcefully toward the guards, the lawyers and those observing the hearing, as if giving a lecture, and launched into an anti-gay marriage rant.

He appeared to be suggesting that because the Criminal Code does not prohibit gay marriage it goes against the laws of God and is, in his eyes, not valid.

McMahon tried to cut in and when Esseghaier shouted at him again the judge told him his opinions about the Criminal Code were not relevant to the day’s proceedings.

Esseghaier and his co-accused, Raed Jaser, are set to return to court Feb. 21 in front of a different judge to set a case management schedule.

Jaser, 36, who is represented by lawyer John Norris and was denied bail in November, said nothing during the hearing.

The permanent resident of Palestinian descent faces four charges, including conspiracy to murder for the benefit of a terrorist group.

Esseghaier, a Tunisian national doing doctoral research on nanosensors, is facing five charges, including participating in a terrorist group.

The duo was arrested in April and is accused of plotting to attack a train that travels from New York City to Ontario.

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  1. Jim says

    Jan 29, 2014 at 4:41 pm

    As a Canadian criminal lawyer, I can say with certainty that the latitude this Islamic jihadist was given here by the court was exceptional, perhaps unprecedented. Just interrupting the judge that way alone can trigger a contempt citation. Instead, the courts seem to be bending over backwards to try to win this man’s heart. Instead, we should be breaking it. Jihadists should be confronted with deprogramming in jail. Only then will they fear arrest.

    • CornHolio says

      Jan 29, 2014 at 6:00 pm

      The judges are bending over backwards to show that they are not “Islamophobic”.

      • Sovereign Man says

        Jan 29, 2014 at 6:58 pm

        Bending over forward, more like it.

        • LemonLime says

          Jan 30, 2014 at 12:27 pm

          In an essay on my blog on the phenomenon of Morosophy (“learned foolishness”) which seems to have become prevalent throughout the West with regard to the problem of Islam, I wrote:

          … this irrational excess of morosophy is becoming more assertive and pronounced, even as its believers find themselves having to go into pretzelly contortions of bending over backwards to placate this Muslim Other while genuflecting forward in proto-dhimmitudinous salaaming*, all the while acrobatically flexing from side to side in order to deflect or to deny the inundation of data that would bring their whole paradigm…

          * (My 1923 Webster’s has an entry for “salaam convulsion” — a medical condition in children where they uncontrollably bend the head and upper body forward: We may expect to see an epidemic of this among Western politicians, news media reporters & pundits, and academics in the near future. Indeed, already now we have seen signs & symptoms of it in Obama’s deep and respectful bows to various evil heads of state, beginning with the King of Saudi Arabia. And needless to say, in our morosophistical era now, no Western dictionary would allow itself to publish such an entry, for fear of “offending” Muslims.)

          Morosophy and the Mother of all Others

          http://hesperado.blogspot.com/2010/05/morosophy-and-mother-of-all-others.html

        • LemonLime says

          Jan 30, 2014 at 12:29 pm

          One of my quotes lopped off a phrase:

          “…or to deny the inundation of data that would bring their whole paradigm crashing down around them, axiom by interlocking axiom.”

    • Rob says

      Jan 30, 2014 at 2:17 am

      ..and in New Zealand:
      http://www.3news.co.nz/Port-Hills-Groper-gets-community-work/tabid/423/articleID/328554/Default.aspx
      You would think an asylum seeker would do all he could to familiarise himself with cultural differences.
      Sends a strong message to others that no need to worry. The courts will find an excuse for you.

      • Aardvark says

        Jan 30, 2014 at 7:27 am

        I’m surprised the groper didn’t get more than he bargained for!

        The women he assaulted should start carrying cans of pepper spray (or similar), and hope for a repeat performance…

      • Rob says

        Jan 30, 2014 at 1:37 pm

        The Australians are getting it.
        http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/asylum-seekers-warned-against-swearing-spitting-and-rumour-mongering-in-draft-codeofconduct-20140130-31ouy.html

      • Joel says

        Jan 30, 2014 at 2:35 pm

        Some years ago, a Muslim anally raped his daughter–she was like 4 or 5 or 6–somewhere around there.

        HE WENT BEFORE A WOMAN JUDGE, NO LESS, and said that he anally raped her, because SHE HAD TO REMAIN A VIRGIN. (RELIGIOUS REASONS)

        The judge (non jury trial) found him not guilty, as took his story-about the girl having to remain a virgin.

        This was in Canada, and I think about 5 or perhaps more years ago.

        I always wondered–how did that anal pore judge sleep at night-

    • Abdul Malik Talib says

      Jan 30, 2014 at 7:05 am

      There are millions of Christians in palestine, egypt, morocco, lebanon and the other muslim countries who are being persecuted every day. Why do you not resettle them in your country. Instead you choose to permit those, who want to see your country destroyed.

    • mortimer says

      Jan 30, 2014 at 8:42 am

      Western governments are led by ignoramuses on the subject of Islam. ‘Deprogramming’ is the right word here. Our politicians are criminally naïve about Islam’s intentions to subvert the Western democracies to draconian Sharia law.

      It will take the realization that Islam is an extremely dangerous Death Cult before deprogramming of Muslims begins…but this is the only course of action that will be effective in stopping Islamic terrorism.

  2. Champ says

    Jan 29, 2014 at 4:45 pm

    True to form for a mainstream media story, there is no indication in this Canadian Press article that Chiheb Esseghaier is a Muslim, much less an Islamic jihadist. — headline

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Shhh …

    They better not call him a “muslim” or they risk being labeled bigoted & hateful. Yeah the ugly Truth about islam and company is *very* unpopular, dontchaknow.

  3. Salah says

    Jan 29, 2014 at 5:02 pm

    Morsi, Egypt’s ex-president used the same tactics interrupting the judge. What did they do? they put him in a soundproof glass-encased metal cage!

    http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/egypt-s-ousted-president-defiant-at-start-of-prison-break-trial-1.1658994

  4. gravenimage says

    Jan 29, 2014 at 5:09 pm

    Canada: Would-be jihad mass murderer tells court he was “forced to show my sex,” rants about gay marriage
    ………………………………..

    “Forced to show my sex”—uh huh. I’m sure the guards weren’t interested, and that this was just in the course of standard searches.

    More:

    True to form for a mainstream media story, there is no indication in this Canadian Press article that Chiheb Esseghaier is a Muslim, much less an Islamic jihadist. There are numerous quotations of him referring to “God,” leaving the uninformed reader with the possibility that he could be a deranged “right-wing Christian extremist.” His previous insistence that he be judged only by the Qur’an instead of by Canadian law is not considered fit to reiterate here.
    ………………………………..

    And of course, if he were “judged by the Qur’an”, he would not only be released but lauded as pious Muslim.

    Jihadists don’t recognize civilized Infidel laws, but on the barbarism of Shari’ah.

    More:

    Anyway, Esseghaier’s rage about this supposed strip search is consistent with accounts that Islamic jihadists in prison the world over have given of their supposed “tortures”: an al-Qaeda manual a few years back told imprisoned jihadists always to claim that they had been tortured, and their accounts frequently revolve around sexual humiliation.
    ………………………………..

    This is standard bs—strip searches may not be much fun, but they are *hardly* gratuitous “humiliation”, given that so many criminals secrete weapons, drugs, and other contraband.

    And Jihadists in particular have been known for secreting weapons—*including explosives*—in their undergarments or orifices. Who can forget the “Panty Bomber”?

    More:

    More:

    TORONTO — A man accused of plotting a terrorist attack on a passenger train spent most of what was supposed to be a quick, procedural court appearance ranting about a strip search and gay marriage.
    ………………………………..

    Why did the judge allow this? The issue here is this vile Jihadist trying to murder innocent people on a train.

    More:

    He suggested that if a guard at the court thought he had contraband smuggled in from jail, it was an indictment of the justice system.

    “When you don’t have confidence between each other and you doubt each other, then your system is weak,” Esseghaier told the judge.

    “From where I would get the weapon? From where would I get the drug? I have been in my cell for the past nine months.”
    ………………………………..

    What a moron…

    More:

    Superior Court Judge John McMahon patiently explained that there are many such cases, but it wasn’t long before Esseghaier began butting heads with the judge.

    Esseghaier has often used court appearances to rant about the Criminal Code, saying he refuses to be judged by it because it was created by humans, not God, and is therefore imperfect.
    ………………………………..

    Right—unlike barbaric Shari’ah…

    More:

    The judge allowed Esseghaier, who is unrepresented, to rant for a few minutes before suggesting several times it would be in the accused terrorist’s best interests to get a lawyer.
    ………………………………..

    It seems this Jihadist doesn’t believe in Infidel lawyers, either—and he wants more time for Da’wa.

    More:

    Esseghaier bristled at that, shouting “Excuse me” at the judge.

    “You interrupted me and I want to be able to finish,” Esseghaier said.
    ………………………………..

    This foolish judge should have shut him down right then.

    More:

    “The Criminal Code, as I said, is written by humans…we are putting the laws of God behind our back and are following the laws of humans.”

    Esseghaier began gesturing forcefully toward the guards, the lawyers and those observing the hearing, as if giving a lecture, and launched into an anti-gay marriage rant.

    He appeared to be suggesting that because the Criminal Code does not prohibit gay marriage it goes against the laws of God and is, in his eyes, not valid.
    ………………………………..

    Oh, it goes way beyond that. Any civilized legal system not based on Islam is considered invalid by pious Muslims. This foolish judge has just given this Jihadist a platform for Da’wa.

  5. fair_dinkum says

    Jan 29, 2014 at 5:15 pm

    “Esseghaier, a Tunisian national doing doctoral research on nanosensors, is facing five charges, including participating in a terrorist group.”

    i’m guessing such a doctorate would take rational thinking to achieve it..

    but once they are caught and there for other moslems to judge:

    “Esseghaier began gesturing forcefully toward the guards, the lawyers and those observing the hearing, as if giving a lecture, and launched into an anti-gay marriage rant”

    much more uniform and what we are used to. self pitying, self righteous and self ish. the true victim mentality.

    • mortimer says

      Jan 30, 2014 at 8:45 am

      Amazing what a higher education can do for a fellow. Turns him into a braindead killer zombie!

  6. CornHolio says

    Jan 29, 2014 at 6:03 pm

    “You want to be judged by God’s book?”
    “Yes!”
    “OK, you have been found guilty of ‘spreading mischief in the land’, so bailiff? Take him out back and shoot him.”
    “Next case.”

    • Sovereign Man says

      Jan 29, 2014 at 6:57 pm

      Hah! Thanks for that laugh, I needed it. If only, eh?

    • mortimer says

      Jan 30, 2014 at 8:48 am

      Exactly! And that is precisely how they would deal with the case in an Islamic country.

      And that’s the sort of law we don’t want: Sharia.

      We are fighting with one hand tied behind our backs…we do not cut down our laws to get at the devil.

  7. Transmaster says

    Jan 29, 2014 at 6:11 pm

    They need to lock up Esseghaier in a cell with a half a dozen very large very muscular, hung like a Clydesdale gay lifers. “come here Esseghaier we are going to make you our joy-boy” . Leave him in there for several weeks. Then bring him back to court.

  8. JIMJFOX says

    Jan 30, 2014 at 4:32 am

    “God has no jurisdiction in this court”

    You’re a wimp, Judge

  9. Jan says

    Jan 30, 2014 at 6:56 am

    test

  10. Aardvark says

    Jan 30, 2014 at 7:34 am

    I hope the strip-searches are a continuing part of his court appearances.

  11. Cindy Mccoy says

    Jan 30, 2014 at 9:31 am

    These folks think they are brave because they blow up trains and planes with bombs they have made. But want to hide behind a mask, why are you ashamed. You are all cowards, you go after women and children and unprotected people. I really don’t know why everyone always cowers to these folks. They are bullies and need to be put in their place!!!!!! Just like in the play-yard.

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