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The Spencer-Geller ban: Truth is hate crime in Cameron’s Britain

Jan 31, 2014 12:24 pm By Robert Spencer

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The Spencer-Geller ban: Truth is hate crime in Cameron’s Britain
by Paul Weston, Chairman, Liberty GB

What kind of country refuses entry to people like Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller, but welcomes with open arms war criminals, rapists, murderers, fascists and jihadists? Great Britain, of course! Come on in, we say! No passport, my dear chap? Not a problem! Can you mouth the word A-S-Y-L-U-M in a manner approximating coherence? You can! Excellent, excellent, please allow us to provide you with money, housing, legal aid and a thoroughly Great British welcome to you today, and your extended family tomorrow!

Next! Ah, Mr Spencer, I think? May I compliment you on your luxuriant beard that suggests potential jihadi promise, and your magisterial ability to quote the Koran, my dear chap, both of which are highly favoured in multi-faith Britain! But, and it is rather a large but, I’m afraid to say, I hear you are pro-Israel and use your Koranic knowledge to question the peacefulness of an ideology we fanatically promote as pure as the driven snow! Oh dear me no, this is no good at all, my dear fellow! Drawing attention to real, actual facts is just not on in today’s Britain, don’t cha know? So despite the wonderful beard, I’m afraid entry permission is denied! Sorry, old boy!

Next! Ms Geller, I presume? Wrong queue, my dear lady, wrong queue entirely! You want the one over there….NO! Ms Geller, most certainly NOT the VIP track…the one next to it….yes, that one, Ms Geller…that’s it, the Fast Track Judenrein queue…..no, Ms Geller, not au revoir, my dear lady, not au revoir at all…..simply goodbye!

Next!…Mr Mohammad Al-Arefe, I believe? I hear you wish to smash skulls and sever limbs, you old Saudi rogue, you! Welcome to Britain, sir! This way sir, this way! May I carry your bag, sir? I may! Thank you, sir, thank you! Gosh, it’s awfully heavy! What on earth do you have inside it? No, no! Don’t answer me, sir, and please forgive my infidel impertinence in asking…and if I may say so sir, your beard is rather marvellous as well….completely puts Spencer’s quite inferior foliage in the shade, sir…your limousine, sir, courtesy of Theresa May! Oh, thank you, sir! A Petrodollar! Thank you again, sir! Allahu akbar, if I may be so bold, sir!

And now for a more detailed and depressing analysis, from here.

“In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” — George Orwell

British Home Secretary Theresa May’s ban on civil rights activists Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller entering Britain is yet another example of our ruling elite’s total capitulation to Islam, a political and cultural/religious ideology which shares its core beliefs with Nazism.

I wasn’t intending to write on this subject; it has already been covered by various authors, but the following email I received from a Canadian WWII soldier changed my mind. Lance Bombardier Richard Field served in the Royal Canadian Artillery Regiment and fought for his country and the West as a young man in Europe in WWII. He is now fighting against resurgent Islam, which he correctly identifies as a threat greater even than that of Hitler’s Nazis. Mr Field wrote the following:

“As a Canadian who went to England during WWII as a 19 year old soldier and went into combat in North West Europe to defend our freedoms. The bile rises in my throat at the pitiful behavior of David Cameron and the policies of Britain in regard to anyone from anywhere in the Free Western world being told they cannot come and tell the truth about Islam and the end of our civilization if the political theocracy of that evil is allowed to prevail. I have heard Pamela Geller speak. She not only describes Islam’s theocratic plans to dominate all counties on earth but teaches us how to fight the battle peacefully. Cameron and the British government are cowards, frightened that the Islamists will react violently. This government must be replaced with men and women of the Churchillian and Thatcher courage of steel and purpose. In the meantime the English Defense League and Liberty GB will have to man the barricades until Cameron and his ilk are hung drawn and quartered for treasonous behavior.”

Mr. Field is quite correct that Cameron and company are behaving in a treacherous manner, although perhaps — just perhaps — hanging, drawing and quartering is taking it a step too far… I think a public trial based on Nuremberg is very much needed, though, and if found guilty, banishment to Islamabad or Timbuktu would be quite an adequate punishment for their cowardly appeasement and betrayal of free speech and democracy — both of which exist today only because of the blood and sacrifice of millions of brave, patriotic and decent men like Mr. Field.

Mr. Cameron’s ideological allies in this shameful travesty include the usual assortment of far-left extremists such as Nick Lowles of Hope not Hate, an organisation devoted to silencing any criticism of Islam, but which “puzzlingly” never talks at all about Islamic atrocities committed both in Britain and abroad. Mr Lowles, of course, comes from a Communist background and therefore supports the mass slaughter of millions in the name of his ideology, so we should not be surprised that he is currently allied with Islam, which continues to satisfy Lowles’ blood lust as its adherents rape, murder, torture and bomb their way around the world. Allahu akbar!

Lowles is “delighted” that he has managed to close down free speech in Britain (Stalin would have been proud of him), but Lowles was embarrassingly unable to answer Robert Spencer in a recent radio interview, when Spencer asked him to name just one example of anything he ever said in millions of words which could be labeled as “Islamophobic.” Lowles could not, of course, because he and his violent and extreme left-wing ilk don’t argue with facts and reality. “Racist and fascist” is their main point of attack as they studiously avoid the real racists and fascists in their midst — who possess both the correct skin colour and a bitter hatred for traditional Britain, which combination makes Islam the number one ideological ally of the quisling Left.

After the toe-curling failure of Lowles to defame Spencer, worse was to come for the Islamo-leftist alliance. Were the matter not so serious, the following exchange between imam Dadwallah and Robert Spencer would be comedy gold in its exposure of the pig-ignorant and evasive imam and the thoroughly biased BBC, which sought desperately to expose Spencer as a bigoted “Islamophobe.” The BBC interviewer allowed Robert to quote a small number of Koranic verses which smear Jews and Christians as unclean, along with a couple of fairly typical jihadist kill-all-the-non-Muslims sort of stuff:

“How would you counter these quotes?” asked the BBC man, whereupon the imam instantly refused to argue against the unarguable and instead said the following:

“The Home Secretary needs to decide whether she should allow Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer to come to this country, especially on armed forces day. Is it going to be respectful, is it going to be distasteful for these individuals to come and honour the memory of Drummer Lee Rigby?”

Memo to imam Dadwallah: Respectful to attend a memorial for a murdered British soldier? Emphatically yes. Distasteful? No! Do you have any idea what you said? This terrible statement should have been picked up by the BBC interviewer, but alas went clean over his head, presumably because the prevailing opinion at the BBC is not too dissimilar to that of the cuddly imam.

After a tad more typical taqiyyah, the real comedy gold started when the interviewer finally lost patience with the discombobulating Dadwallah:

“But imam, imam, with all due respect, I’m sorry, but so often on this show we are asked by our Muslim listeners why haven’t we got an imam on to counter some of the things put out there…you cannot evade that…he (Robert Spencer) put the quotes out there, please explain the context!”

Imam Dadwallah had been caught out with his admission that Jews and Christians were “spiritually unclean” which he then tried to backtrack on. The interviewer then asked him if he could identify a single verse in the Koran which states that they (Jews and Christians) are equal to Muslims. The imam replies:

Imam: “Not off the top of my head, I wasn’t asked to be prepared for…”
BBC: “But you’re an imam!”
Imam: “I understand that, but Robert Spencer…”
BBC: “But he isn’t an imam!”
Imam: “But this is his field…”
BBC: “But Islam is your field surely?!”

If anyone thinks the interviewer was against the imam, they would be very much mistaken. The interviewer was just frustrated that he was unable to use his pet imam to debunk Robert and expose him as an “Islamophobe.” The interviewer went on to say:

“The reason that I wanted you on the show was to counter the kind of accusations [actually, just quotes from the Koran — Ed.] that we hear from Tommy Robinson and Robert Spencer.”

And so the penny dropped. The BBC was out to discredit Spencer, but failed utterly to do so. The Communist Lowles failed utterly, and the imam failed utterly. Robert Spencer’s supposed “Islamophobia” consisted only of quoting the Koran. The inability to counter these quotes simply confirms that the Koran is a Hate Book, driven by supremacism, bigotry and anti-anything not Islamic. Robert Spencer was not banned because he twists the Koran; he was banned for exposing the hatred within the Koran. In Britain… by a Conservative government…

So when these thoroughly dreadful Conservative politicians are not banning truthful civil rights activists, what sort of delightful coves do they let into the country? Well, there are countless examples of war-mongering jihadists allowed into Britain; in fact we even have our own resident Bangladeshi war criminal who has been indicted for genocide back home in the East. But here is the most recent example of Cameronian culpability: one Mohammed al-Arefe, who bimbled over from Saudi just last week to partake of tea and a chat with his followers in Britain. One of his historical chats went like this:

“Devotion to jihad for the sake of Allah, and the desire to shed blood, to smash skulls, and to sever limbs for the sake of Allah and in defense of His religion, is, undoubtedly, an honor for the believer. Allah said that if a man fights the infidels, the infidels will be unable to prepare to fight.”

Hmmm. And he’s not the only one like this whom Theresa May’s Home Office considers fit for entry and fit for spreading words conducive to the “public good.” In May, 2013, Kuwaiti Sheikh Yasser Al-Habib came to Britain to incite hatred against those pesky Sunni Muslims (Al-Habib is very much a Shiite) and has already served time for inciting religious hatred. Labour MP Khalid Mahmood, a Sunni Muslim, raised this issue with Theresa May’s Home Office:

“These preachers are purely here to promote themselves and create divisions where none need to exist. Neither he (Al-Arefe) or Al-Habib should be allowed to do this. And the Home Office must take action on this issue. This is just another branch of hatred, and it’s bizarre the Home Office doesn’t listen to people who are concerned about this…the Home Office has a duty to examine this.“

But the Home office did nothing. Absolutely nothing. Wrong colour, wrong religion, old boy. It is hard to put into mere words the sheer revulsion one feels towards David Cameron at this point. We do have actual laws that prohibit genuine hate preachers, such as the amiable imams above, from coming here. But those laws are ignored when the haters emanate from petro-dollar rich Saudi and Kuwait. Those hundreds-of-billions sure have some clout, hey, Dave?

But why let in skull-smashing Saudis whilst banning peaceful civil rights activists? As far as Theresa May is concerned, the mere presence of Geller and Spencer “would not be conducive to the public good” which is a pretty Orwellian and far-ranging totalitarian statement, assuming it is even legal.

What Ms May really means is that Muslim and far-left extremist groups will cause trouble if people advocating free speech are allowed entry to Britain in order to politely explain to baffled imams what their holy book really means when it commands them to slay the infidels. In order to appease the Muslim “community” Cameron and his government would rather betray their country, and the reason for this is based purely on the fact that the British parliament (within those hallowed halls where once strode Winston Churchill) is just downright frightened — nay, terrified — of Islam.

And this terror of Islam is because Islam uses terror. And quite clearly uses it very well. After the Muslim sex-slavery, rape and torture cases came before the public eye, there was a public tut-tutting, but little else. There is an ongoing scandal and a third enquiry into the awful murder of black teenager Stephen Lawrence and the subsequent police bungling of the operation, but there is no call for an enquiry into the fact that thousands of vulnerable native British girls were abused by hundreds of Pakistani “British” Muslims in full view of David Cameron, the police, the media and the social services, all of whom knew what was going on, but chose to do nothing about it. The blood of those children is on their hands, and I include David Cameron in that.

“Let’s just pretend it never happened” seems to be the official response. Racially motivated? Religiously motivated? Good Lord, no! If we admitted that, then we would have to use the hate laws to prosecute the perpetrators, and they are all the wrong colour and the wrong religion! Surely everybody is aware these laws were introduced to prosecute white Christians only! Anything else would be discriminatory!

So here we are then. A Prime Minister who thinks we have a lot to learn from Islam. A Prime Minister who is a founding signatory of Unite Against Fascism, which is a Communist thug organisation with a Muslim fascist, Azad Ali, sitting as its vice-chair. A Prime Minister who said nary a word about Muslim gang rapists, and the only words used by him about the murder of Fusilier Lee Rigby served to absolve Islam of any blame.

Britain is a country which allowed Muslim girls to attack white girls whilst screaming “kill the white bitch”, who were then absolved of a race crime. Britain promotes policemen to top positions who then publicly state on television that the 7/7 London transport bombings had nothing to do with Islam. Britain is a country that allowed any number of Muslim imams filmed by undercover C4 journalists to just carry on their hatred, even after their rants were aired on prime time TV. Let’s not prosecute them our Crown Prosecution Service said — they are the wrong colour and the wrong religion. Old boy.

Britain is a country that allowed its principal broadcasting outlet, the BBC, to disproportionately fill its studios with Muslims after 9/11 and to then blame America to loud applause from the audience, even as the U.S. Ambassador was reduced to tears by the sheer hatred and lack of human decency exhibited by the hating left and the hating Muslims.

Britain is a country that has clearly placed the interests of the followers of a savage, backward, violent, misogynistic, anti-Semitic and anti-Christian ideology both political and religious, stratospherically above the interests of its own native citizens. Britain is a country where Ignorance is Strength, Freedom is Slavery, Islam is Peace and Resistance to Islam is Evil.

Britain is lost.

Britain is a country that does prosecute you if you dare to mention that Islam indulges in a spot of gang-rape, and tells us it wants to blow us up. Britain is a country that threatens to prosecute T-Shirt vendors for inciting racial hatred if they wish to sell clothing bearing a logo saying “Respect our Culture, Respect our Laws or Get out of our Country”. Britain is a country that refuses to prosecute Muslims for hate crimes when they desecrate our war memorials, and Britain is a country that allows Jew-hating politicians like Keith Vaz to help decide just who should or should not be allowed entry to Britain.

And finally, Britain is a country that bans scholarly civil rights activists from entry, despite the fact they have never called for violence, cannot be exposed as being “Islamophobic” by Communists such as Nick Lowles and cannot be refuted by idiotic imams after directly quoting the Koran. Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer have been denied entry to Britain for two reasons. The first is that they speak the truth. The second is that they have sufficient knowledge to make sure the truth cannot be twisted.

The British patriot and philosopher Roger Scruton once said that if words no longer had the desired effect, then words would be replaced by deeds. By denying free speech, by denying words from Geller and Spencer, David Cameron is helping to ensure that deeds will be forced to replace words, because our own government no longer allows us to use words.

The deeds will be violent. No race or culture submits quietly to their disinheritance, but for traitors like Cameron these deeds will not affect him personally. Islam is growing nine times faster than any other demographic and young Muslim males are becoming increasingly radicalised at Saudi-funded mosques. This can only lead to future civil war, and Cameron has shunted this war onto the shoulders of his own children, and the shoulders of every innocent child in Britain who has no power to influence the future. Meanwhile, Prime Minister Cameron who does have the power to actually do something about it, but only uses it to clamp down on people he thinks are on the wrong side of history, the wrong side of morality and the wrong side of good.

But it is you, Mr Cameron, who is on the wrong side. One day I very much hope you will explain to a court of law just why, given the choice of backing good or evil, you chose evil. Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller are clearly good, but you barred them. The skull-crushing jihadi enthusiast Mohammed al-Arefe is clearly evil, yet here he is Britain. This is not Pakistan, yet you seem intent on enforcing sharia-compliant blasphemy laws as though your office were in Islamabad, not London.

Why? Why have you labeled truth and facts to be “hate?” This is not the action of a democratic government; it is the action of a genuine dictatorship, and your totalitarian behavior is being carried out on behalf of a foreign religion and a foreign people who wish us only harm.

I said earlier that no words can describe the sheer revulsion good and moral people feel about your recent action Mr Cameron. The civilised world is now talking about it in horrified tones. You have publicly shamed Britain on the international stage, but, hey, don’t worry, Dave, just chillax. Leave the mess you have helped cause for your children — for all our children — to physically and militarily deal with, if indeed they can. For them, for our children, it will be a quite literal fight to the death.

Your abject cowardice in the face of potential Islamic aggression makes you a traitor to your country. Your dictatorial dismissal of free speech in barring Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller makes you a disgrace to decency and democracy, and an insult to every soldier like Lance Bombardier Richard Field who sacrificed so much to defend that democracy. You will never, ever, be forgiven and one day you will be held to account.

 

 

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  1. Salah says

    Jan 31, 2014 at 12:40 pm

    “Your abject cowardice in the face of potential Islamic aggression makes you a traitor to your country.”

    How to deal with traitors? overthrow them, put them on trial and execute them. That’s how.

    • Shane says

      Feb 1, 2014 at 10:01 am

      Liberalism and Islam are religions of hate, which explains why Muslims and left wingers make such good allies. Certainly the philosophies of Islam and Liberalism are far different, but they unite in hatred against their common enemies, Christianity and Western Civilization.

      Christians around the world must unite to protect themselves from Islamic jihad and persecution. The USA must ally with Russia and China against Islamic jihad and terrorism.

      Robert Spencer, Pamela Gellar, and Brigitte Gabriel are heroes in the fight against Islamic aggression.

  2. Jay Boo says

    Jan 31, 2014 at 1:15 pm

    The Quran is a Hate Crime against humanity.
    The words “The Compassionate and Merciful” to begin its chapters are absolutely necessary in order to sugarcoat Islam’s shameless pretense at innocence before it sleazes in with its vile venom.

    All the perfume in the world cannot cover-up the stench of the Quran’s written cesspool out of the mouth of Muhammad as its unfortunate victims living downwind of Islam and its dhimmi-doo enablers know all too well.

  3. John Alexander says

    Jan 31, 2014 at 1:58 pm

    David Cameron was in fine form again the other day again when he identified Britain’s main immigration as… the Poles.

    This was news to me as I recently read a study that said Poles in London have the lowest take up rate of welfare of any ethnic group in Britain. On the other hand almost a quarter of our Muslim population is on benefits.

    There’s a great take on that in: “A Lie That’s Told With Good Intent” at:

    http://john-moloney.blogspot.com/2014/01/a-lie-thats-told-with-good-intent.html

  4. Joe says

    Jan 31, 2014 at 2:06 pm

    Robert and Pamela are dangerous subversives.

    Just days after the murder of Lee Rigby in broad daylight on the streets of London, the Deputy PM of Britain claimed he was repeating this verse from the koran: “If anyone kills a human being it shall be as though he killed all mankind whereas if anyone saves a life it shall be as though he saved the whole of mankind” and claimed that he was repeating this verse from the koran. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-22652340 As we know, there is no verse in the koran which says that.

    He was surrounded by a muslim Lord, a Colonel, and a Sheikh. All of those loyal, establishment muslims must have known what koran 5:32 really says, but none of them pointed out that the Deputy PM was fundamentally distorting that verse of the koran. In the following days, no journalist, no academic, no bishop pointed out that the Deputy PM had lied to the nation. Protecting islam was more important to them than respecting the death of the loyal soldier who’d been beheaded in broad daylight – by two devout muslims who clearly knew the truth about what the koran says.

    The Deputy PM even told the journalists what verse he was “repeating”, so any of them could have looked this up to see if what he said really was in the koran. If they had, then they would have found that the koran does not denounce killing; koran 5:32 and 5:33 says the opposite, that muslims are permitted to kill those who oppose islam.

    The elite in Britain clearly have all the academics from Oxbridge down dancing to the same tune: “do not tell the truth about islam”. For at least 50 years the elite have systematically deceived the British public about islam. They cannot have Robert and Pamela come into Britain and expose these lies.

    Up and down the country, in thousands of mosques, imams are free to tell muslims that they are to kill those who oppose islam. The treacherous elite in Britain put their allegiance to a doctrine of violence and hatred above their allegiance to the safety of the British people.

    But the truth about islam is getting out, and the elite are not going to be able to contain it. A couple of years ago there was a riot in the muslim-dominated town of Oldham. It was caused by a 10 year old boy. When a muslim boy in his school disparaged Jesus, the English boy said “at least he wasn’t a paedophile, like Mohammed”. When school was out, and muslims found out about this, a riot ensued.

    If a 10 year old boy can cause a riot by telling the truth, the elite will lose control. It’s all a question of when.

    • Robert Spencer says

      Jan 31, 2014 at 2:59 pm

      Joe:

      You say: “Just days after the murder of Lee Rigby in broad daylight on the streets of London, the Deputy PM of Britain claimed he was repeating this verse from the koran: “If anyone kills a human being it shall be as though he killed all mankind whereas if anyone saves a life it shall be as though he saved the whole of mankind” and claimed that he was repeating this verse from the koran. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-22652340 As we know, there is no verse in the koran which says that.”

      Actually, there is. It’s Qur’an 5:32.

      • gravenimage says

        Feb 1, 2014 at 12:06 am

        Robert Spencer wrote, replying to Joe:

        Joe:

        You say: “Just days after the murder of Lee Rigby in broad daylight on the streets of London, the Deputy PM of Britain claimed he was repeating this verse from the koran: “If anyone kills a human being it shall be as though he killed all mankind whereas if anyone saves a life it shall be as though he saved the whole of mankind” and claimed that he was repeating this verse from the koran. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-22652340 As we know, there is no verse in the koran which says that.”

        Robert Spencer replied:

        Actually, there is. It’s Qur’an 5:32.
        ………………………

        Mr. Spencer, Joe does acknowledge that. He wrote:

        “Deputy PM was fundamentally distorting that verse of the koran.”.

        Joe might have phased things a bit more clearly, but he is right: while this Sura is often used by Muslim apologists—both Muslim and dhimmi—to imply that it is an Islamic virtue to safeguard lives, it is *actually* a pair of verses intended to mark the Jews as ‘hypocrites’.

        In fact, the concept behind Qur’an 5:32 comes from Jewish texts, and is just used here to lambaste Jews for their supposed shortcomings.

        Qur’an 5:32 and 5:33:

        Qur’an 5:32:

        Because of that, We decreed upon the Children of Israel that whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land – it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one – it is as if he had saved mankind entirely. And our messengers had certainly come to them with clear proofs. Then indeed many of them, [even] after that, throughout the land, were transgressors.

        Qur’an 5:33:

        Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth [to cause] corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land. That is for them a disgrace in this world; and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment…
        …………………

        in other words, this not some passage asserting the sanctity of human life, but just another one castigating the Jews for their supposed ‘perfidy’ and marking them for slaughter.

        Of course, I know that you are very familiar with these Suras, but I thought it might be worth laying them out for any interested readers here.

        • Curved Air says

          Feb 1, 2014 at 4:51 am

          Joe was perfectly correct, “If anyone kills a human being it shall be as though he killed all mankind whereas if anyone saves a life it shall be as though he saved the whole of mankind” is not in the koran.

          Where as Because of that, We decreed upon the Children of Israel that whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land – it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one – it is as if he had saved mankind entirely. And our messengers had certainly come to them with clear proofs. Then indeed many of them, [even] after that, throughout the land, were transgressors. can be found

        • Joe says

          Feb 1, 2014 at 11:03 am

          Thanks. Hugh Fitzgerald picked up on this on JW back in 2009.

          “If anyone kills a human being it shall be as though he killed all mankind whereas if anyone saves a life it shall be as though he saved the whole of mankind”

          is as much of a distortion of koran 5:32 as

          “thou shalt kill”

          is a distortion of the 6th commandment.

          It is fundamentally important that we stop our politicians from inverting the meaning of koran 5:32. It is the ONLY verse they use to claim that islam opposes killing. And the only way they can make this claim is by falsifying what koran 5:32 says.

          Whether or not koran 5:32 applies only to jews rather than muslims is another matter. The politicians claim it applies to muslims, and then invert it to make it appear like koran 5:32 opposes all killing, when the part of the verse they excise clearly permits killing for “corruption”/”mischief”. And in koran 5:33, corruption is extrapolated to mean “opposing islam”.

          Tommy Robinson has highlighted that this is what is going on with koran 5:32. We all need to be on top of this deceit.

      • Joe says

        Feb 1, 2014 at 10:51 am

        “Actually, there is. It’s Qur’an 5:32.”

        Only if you find it acceptable for me to say “I’m repeating from the Bible, and the 6th Commandment is Thou shalt kill.”

        I have dropped some word(s) from the middle of that Commandment, and thus reversed the meaning. That is EXACTLY what the Deputy PM of Britain did. The only way he could claim that Islam is a religion of peace which does not sanction killing, was to drop words from the centre of koran 5:32, thus inverting the meaning, just as I did with koran 5:32.

        You must be having a bad day if you do not recognise that this is what he did. As Hugh Fitzgerald pointed out back in 2009, Obama did the same thing with koran 5:32.

        Having seen that Obama could get away with this deceit, the Quislings are taking it further. Clegg claimed he was “repeating from the koran”. “Repeating a verse” means “reading literally”. It does not mean “editing out words so that I can invert the meaning”.

        This lie by Clegg shows how deep the corruption in our society goes. As Mussolini found out as a newspaper editor, he could just blatantly lie and no-one would pick him up on it.

        Clegg could do this at a time when it was of vital interest to the British people to be told the truth about islam (a soldier having been executed on the streets of London in islamic fashion, by muslims claiming that they were following the koran). Clegg lied about “repeating a verse from the koran”, and he did this surrounded by prominent muslim members of the British establishment, who did not correct him. He was complaining the killers of Lee Rigby perverted islam, when he did that with these establishment muslims present, and none of them corrected him.

        • Curved Air says

          Feb 1, 2014 at 12:44 pm

          The disgusting speech Joe is referring to can be found here

          http://goo.gl/QciRYc

    • pdxnag says

      Feb 1, 2014 at 1:03 pm

      A 10 year old boy telling the truth about the evilness of Islam or its purported author or his purported messenger does not incite violence in any way. At most it can be called an invitation to violence. It is the IslamoFascists who commit violent acts described as rioting — and who may have among them a person or two who is slightly more assertive than the others — that are the inciters. The robotic-like response of a typical pious Muslim to engage in instant violence — due to their mindnumbing repetition of Islamic calls to violence — seems to indicate that they are all autonomous leaders (inciters) of violence. It is as predictable as an animatronic Devil Baby or character at Disneyland. But just because an Islamic Rage Boy acts like a savage does not mean that they are not human or sentient enough to being properly labeled as the inciter, of their own volition.

  5. mortimer says

    Jan 31, 2014 at 2:20 pm

    David Cameron’s whitewashing of jihad is unconscionable.

    The mullahs are unable to condemn jihad. They are unable to condemn the jihadists.

    The mullahs have no argument to offer. Ad hominem slurs are not arguments, but fallacies.

    While all Muslims are not active jihadists, do they support jihad? Yes, the majority of Muslims support jihad.

    Do all Britons join the armed forces? No. Do most Britons support their armed forces? Yes, they support them.

    Conclusions: Muslims overwhelmingly support jihad, but are too cautious to admit it in public. Most Muslims wish Israel destroyed, but they do not actively work for it. Most Muslims agree that Sharia should be imposed over the UK, but few are working for that. Why? Because in peacetime, about 1% of the population participates in the armed forces. In wartime, about 10% of the population is in uniform. Does that mean that 90% do not support the 10%? No. It means that most people are not ‘recruitable’ or fit enough to fight. Muslims overwhelmingly support jihad terrorism.

    • Shane says

      Feb 1, 2014 at 10:07 am

      Obama is just as bad as Cameron. Obama and AG Holder have ordered any mention of Islam or Jihad removed from the training materials for our counter-terrorism agents. They are actively aiding Islamic terrorism in the USA.

      U.S. to Expand Rules Limiting Use of Profiling by Federal Agents http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/01/16/us/politics/us-to-expand-rules-limiting-use-of-profiling-by-federal-agents.html?from=homepage&post_id=100002214955319_579814935435666
      Deputy U.S. Attorney General James Cole confirmed on Wednesday that the Obama administration was pulling back all training materials used for the law enforcement and national security communities, in order to eliminate all references to Islam that some Muslim groups have claimed are offensive.
      http://news.yahoo.com/obama-administration-pulls-references-islam-terror-training-materials-044605689.html

  6. mortimer says

    Jan 31, 2014 at 2:40 pm

    IT TAKES A STRONG STOMACH TO DEBATE WITH ISLAM APOLOGISTS
    “In 2006/2007, a Dutch comedian got into trouble with an Islamic activist about the Theo van Gogh assassination. The comedian, on his own initiative, then consulted a local Amsterdam Imam and the board of his mosque, asking them directly whether they wanted to kill him. The Imam only looked stern, and did not say anything, acting as if he did not understand Dutch — which perhaps he did not. However, a smiling board member assured the comedian that they had no plans to kill him, because ‘for such things we have the radicals’. This perfectly illustrates the situation. The majority is silent, the Imam limits himself to looking dignified, his direct supporters bring the bad news, and the elite soldiers, true commandos, true mujahidin, do the dirty work.” – Dr. Hans Jansen, Islamologist

    • PJG says

      Feb 1, 2014 at 4:32 am

      What you said is one of the most important and succinct things anyone has said on JW.

  7. JimJFox says

    Jan 31, 2014 at 3:00 pm

    How utterly biased was this ‘interviewer’? Prejudiced in the extreme; Britain has a profound problem with the truth if this clown is representative. Robert was interrupted continuously and needed to be more aggressive, he could have quoted far more violent and repulsive verses.

    Well I guess Britain will get what it deserves from Islam; pity that it will be too late by the time the British comes to their senses…

  8. JimJFox says

    Jan 31, 2014 at 3:05 pm

    [Quran 5:32][edit]
    Main article: Al-Ma’ida, 32
    This verse explicitly forbids murder: It relates only to the people of the book, i.e. the Jews, it is not an instruction for Muslims. Muslims are instructed in the next verse 5:33 [5.32] For this reason did We prescribe to the children of Israel that whoever slays a soul, unless it be for manslaughter or for mischief in the land, it is as though he slew all men; and whoever keeps it alive, it is as though he kept alive all men; and certainly Our apostles came to them with clear arguments, but even after that many of them certainly act extravagantly in the land.

    Here is the following verse, which ALL MUSLIMS fail to quote, for obvious reasons—
    [Quran 5:33][edit]
    Main article: Al-Ma’ida, 33
    This verse permits Muslims to impose capital punishment on those who engage in an unprovoked war against Muslims[neutrality is disputed]

    [5:33] Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth [to cause] corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land. That is for them a disgrace in this world; and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment,

  9. tpellow says

    Jan 31, 2014 at 3:32 pm

    Yes, Robert. And the easy role which this British government has allocated to the unelected, Muslim Minister, Baroness Warsi in all this, cannot be overstated: Warsi, of the ‘islamophobia’ mantras. She will not accept criticism of Islam. She is not only a key political conduit for Islamic interests inside the U.K, but also for global Islamic interests of the repressive Organization of Islamic Cooperation, for which she is a delegate.

    “British government pledges new cooperation with the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation.
    “On what, exactly, do Baroness Warsi and her British government colleagues intend to “cooperate” with the OIC?”

    By Hader Sela (2012.)

    http://www.thecommentator.com/article/1726/british_government_pledges_new_cooperation_with_the_organisation_of_islamic_cooperation

  10. Lisa says

    Jan 31, 2014 at 5:46 pm

    Robert – I’m a native British girl. Thank you so much for writing these emotional, angry, passionate words. You have perfectly described the pure hell we live in every day.

    We know we’re dead. We have all as a native people fallen into a deep, painful last depression as the last particles of what we used to be disappear. As we suffer the final humiliation, freezing, hungry and in poverty due to immigration and multiculturalism so completely destroying our economy, we are comitting suicide more and more. Our children are being killed, raped, pushed to the bottom by immigrants in schemes enabled, funded and enforced by our own government. Our elderly are hollow shells; they’ve seen the full death of our country. They’re dying alone in their homes which were once in rich, kind, safe, beautiful, freedom loving English communities, but now totally colonised by masses of Muslims.

    We know our country is dead; and we are forced to watch it being increasingly colonised and dominated by Muslims. And we are forced to watch as London (and our other main cities) – now a foreign populated city, owned by foreigners, ran by Muslims and the extreme Left wing, and self-intentionally cut off from the rest of England – dictates every part of our culture, laws and national story.

    We know what suffering is still to come, when they become majority.

    All this, and we are unable, too destroyed to fight back. Our own police and government seem to despise us. The multicultural fascists have created laws that have us raided, arrested and locked up merely for saying what we think.

    We dare not speak, we are too weak and hungry to fight, we no longer have a nation to fight for. Those of us who do face instant relentless attacks by Muslims physically, mentally. They use their lawyers to have us locked up at the same time. Then they go for our families. And the police and government don’t stop them.

    Maybe, reading this, you may be able to taste the salty hot tears that are rolling from my face onto the screen as I type.

    • Robert Spencer says

      Jan 31, 2014 at 6:59 pm

      Lisa

      Thank you so much for your kind and moving words. I feel compelled to note that I did not write these “emotional, angry, passionate words.” Paul Weston did. I hope you will support him and his party.

      • boleyn2010 says

        Feb 1, 2014 at 2:35 pm

        Indeed a worthwhile vote cast. Until now I had no interest in voting for any of the thieves of Bagdhad (formerly known as London) but having read Paul Weston’s words concerning our Prime Idiot, CaMoron, I am determined to vote in his (not Dave’s! fool!) favour.
        I would just like to add that it may appear that us Brits are edging closer and closer to the dhimmitude that these mohammedans desire, but as any undercurrent is always stronger than the surface appears, these no-marks will be swept away by a ferocious backlash. Hitler tried and failed and so will morehamed and his crew of ignorant imams, ayatollahs, muftis et al.
        God bless the Infidel.

    • JIMJFOX says

      Feb 1, 2014 at 12:07 am

      Lisa, your last best hope is UKIP. Up to you, vote for a radical change. I will.

    • gravenimage says

      Feb 1, 2014 at 1:08 am

      Lisa wrote:

      Robert – I’m a native British girl….

      We know we’re dead.
      ……………………

      Lisa, with all respect for terrible odds you face, you *are not dead*.

      Right now, you have appeasers and collaborators in positions of power, but you come from a proud people—never forget that.

      I’m an American, but my mother was English. She and my aunt were both in the service as young women—she went through the London Blitz.

      We Americans are facing a lot of the same issues you are, although we are not so far down that road. But considering who we have in the White House, we face an uphill battle, as well.

      All of us Westerners need to fight for our freedoms in the face of censorship and Muslim savagery—but I do believe that it can be done.

      We cannot surrender—the stakes are too high.

      Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller continue to fight for Britain—it would have been all too easy for them to just throw up their hands in the face of this ban, but they haven’t.

      They continue to fight for you—and can fight for yourself and your fellow Britons.

      Britain—and through her the rest of the Anglophone world—is responsible for the greatest civilization the world has ever seen. That we should fall to the barbarism of Islam *is wrong*.

      You are superior to Islam in every way—intellectually, technologically, and, especially, morally.

      You can only fall to a creed like Islam *if you surrender*. Things are dire, but you don’t have to surrender. We stand with you.

      “Never give in… Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy.”

    • Zhingisender says

      Feb 1, 2014 at 2:55 pm

      We fight because this is ours. It is our honour, our duty and our war. We have been fighting for hundreds and thousands of years. This is what makes us who we are.

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Feb 8, 2014 at 5:56 am

      Lisa

      I don’t know whether you will come back to this thread.

      But I urge you: above all else, please do not despair.

      You are not alone.

      First: join up with Mr Weston. Vote for him.

      Also, perhaps, join up with Gavin Boby, Law and Freedom Foundation.

      http://lawandfreedomfoundation.org/

      Here is a young British blogger (are you 30 or under? Over-30?).

      http://defendthemodernworld.wordpress.com/

      And here’s another excellent website that carries a lot of British and European content, though some of the contributors are American:

      http://www.newenglishreview.org/

      These sites are morale-building as well as informative. I encourage you to contact one of the contributors in particular, “Esmerelda Weatherwax”: a cheerful and indefatigable Londoner.

      If you identify yourself as a Christian in any sense, but are not a member of any actual congregation: find a local church and join it. Get to know them. Find out what if anything they know about islam. Your aim is either to find a church that is already Islamosavvy, or one that is educable. While you’re checking out churches – provide yourself with leaflets that you can buy very cheaply from the website of The Barnabas Fund. The ones you want are “What is Islam?”, “What is Sharia?”, “Islam and Truth” and (most important, for Christians who will be targeted by sly Muslims) “Is the Muslim Isa the Biblical Jesus?” Leave a full set of four behind, in every church you visit. The Barnabas Fund has a project called “Operation Nehemiah” – all about encouragement and rebuilding. If you’re a Christian, get with it.

      Whether you are Christian or not, another organisation that may be worth joining is the dear old “Royal Society of St George”.

      http://www.royalsocietyofstgeorge.com/

      If the remnant of patriots like yourself were to join it en masse, I think it could become a very powerful agent of cultural reaffirmation, and a great place to network and fight back against creeping Islamisation of the public space, even by doing things like flying the flag of St George.

      If you are physically afraid of Muslims, sign up to a martial arts class run by a non-Muslim, and learn how to handle yourself.

      For morale, I recommend reading G K Chesterton: “The Battle of Lepanto”, and “The Ballad of the White Horse”,

      http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poem/177439

      http://www.cse.dmu.ac.uk/~mward/gkc/books/white-horse2.html

      read them aloud and let them lift your spirits

      and his novel “The Flying Inn”, which in 1915 – I kid you not! – eerily foresaw a UK that had been “stealth-islamised”

      ::Hugs::

      (I am an Aussie, myself, of Irish, Scots, English, Danish and German ancestry; I came to jihadwatch seven or eight years ago. As an Aussie, I joined our fledgling Resistance body, the Q Society; I am also a regular attender at my parish church, and a member of the Mothers’ Union, which is my small way of trying to affirm life in the face of the great shadow cast by Jihad).

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Feb 8, 2014 at 6:11 am

      And again, just in case you come back here, a little more.

      To hark back to the Celtic bedrock of the Island of the Mighty.

      Do you know the story ‘Where Arthur Sleeps’, from Gwyn Jones’ “Welsh Legends and Folktales” (1955; 1956), in the third section ‘Tales Old and New’?
      In this story a Wise Man and a Welshman enter a cave in Craig-y-Dinas. There they see,
      “Hanging from the passage roof was a bronze bell the size of a beehive, with a clanger as long as your arm, and the Wise Man begged the Welshman on no account to touch it, for if he did, disaster would surely follow.
      ‘Soon they reached the main cave…it was filled with warriors in bright armour and asleep on the floor. There was an outer ring of a thousand men, and an inner ring of a hundred, their heads to the wall and their feet to the centre, each with sword, shield, battle-axe and spear; and outermost of all lay their horses…And in the middle of them all lay a king and emperor at rest, as they knew by the splendour of his array and the jewelled crown beneath his hand and the awe and majesty of his person.”
      A little later on in the tale, “Who are these warriors?’ asked the Welshman. ‘And who is their sleeping king?
      ‘”The King is Arthur, and those that surround him are the men of the Island of the Mighty.

’They sleep with their steeds and their arms because a day will come when land and sky shall cower at the clamour of a host,
’and the bell will tremble and ring, and then those warriors will ride out with Arthur at their head, and drive their foes headlong into the sea, and there shall be justice and peace among men for as long as the world endures.'”

      Perhaps the bell in the Cave of the Sleepers is beginning to tremble, and swing, and ring. And it is *people like you* who are hearing it. It is *you* who are Arthur’s warriors, awakening.

      Something else to think about:

      Remember that amazing “Staffordshire Hoard”?? And then there was that Viking hoard that was recently found.

      http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm/blog_id/23228

      To me, it is an eerie coincidence, lifting the hairs on the back of the neck, that *this* – this very masculine and military treasure hoard of sword hilts and sword pommel caps and other warrior paraphernalia, more spectacular than Sutton Hoo – should be found *now*?

      Sutton Hoo itself – the ship-grave of an ancient Anglo-Saxon warrior – was found in…1939. Just before the war with the Nazis erupted.

      “And now…with the menace of the Third Jihad growing daily, and with Mohammedans swarming all over Britain, what happens?

      “*This* is found – just down the road from Mohammedan-infested Birmingham.

      “Sure, call me a hopeless romantic; but it does feel almost as though, as it did in 1939, the earth of Britain itself has spoken to warn and encourage the people;

      “as though the Warrior Ancestors are standing there holding out their swords by the hilt across a gulf of thirteen hundred years to the British of today and saying – “Remember who you are. Remember where you came from. Take our swords! “‘

      More Chesterton: O God of Earth and Altar. Unless you are a card-carrying atheist – please – click on the link, and then..sing along and let it lift your soul.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmXQpT7W98c

      And, finally, St Patrick’s Breastplate, or, The Deer’s Cry.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJx_Lu4PymE

      Bless you, Lisa.

  11. Brian C. Hoff says

    Jan 31, 2014 at 6:44 pm

    Hilter die on Jan. 15,1970 in Indonesia marry to than dark skin muslim woman from Sudan than he convert to Islam to marry her. He live unber than other person name she another on the remote island didnot know he was Hilter untril one day they where talking about WWII she said she alway want to meet Hilter in person he point to himself saying he is Hilter he was than hosital drocter adimmate not than medical droctor he told her she cannot repreat to anyone elso . After he die the people grave him than Islamist bury and they where told he was Hilter. Many people from South America and the middle east visit his grave site to paid they respect. She have Hilter diasy and party card of the Nazie Party. The Soviet Union when they fround out he die burn the body they claim where Hilter in East Gemany in April of 1970 but they kept the scull bone with the bullet hole in it. In 2008 some america formatic scient got asset to the bone they took sample and in america ran DNA test on it it was than woman bone. It was not Eva Brown it was than older woman. That discredit any theory that he die in the buncker in 1945.

    • JIMJFOX says

      Feb 1, 2014 at 12:05 am

      SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!

    • gravenimage says

      Feb 1, 2014 at 12:28 am

      “Brian C. Hoff” wrote:

      Hilter die (sic) on Jan. 15,1970 in Indonesia marry (sic) to than (sic) dark skin (sic) muslim (sic) woman from Sudan than (sic) he convert (sic) to Islam to marry her…
      ………………………………………

      More off-topic, incoherent and ahistorical crap from “DefenderofIslam”.

      What *is* clear is that like so many Muslims, one of the very few infidels he actually respects *is Hitler*.

      More:

      Many people from South America and the middle east visit his grave site to paid (sic) they (sic) respect.
      ………………………………………

      And why would so many in the Middle East—i.e., Muslims—”paid they respect” to this mass-murdering homicidal maniac? Might it be because they see Fascism as akin to Islam, and because they want to finish the Holocaust? Damn barbarian.

      • Brian C. Hoff says

        Feb 1, 2014 at 3:55 pm

        Even before I became than muslim I doudt that Hilter die in the bunck in 1945. There is growing evidence that He wasnot in Berlin in march or apirl in 1945. Useing new tools the believe the pictures of Hilter in Berlin where of his doubles all who die in april of 1945. Both america and the USSR help hide some of the worst Nazie warcrimeal because theyuu needed then for science know how an the case of america to help it fight the cold war. The america and uk government expent the classist nature of any paper dealing with Hilter and where about since 1945. One of the problem was they never fround than record of his fingerprints which are needed to prove who than person to have him hand over. Plus legal Hilter wasnot charge with any warcrimes so it even he was arrest the police would be unable to hold him on warcrime charge. Even it He was in Berlin in 1945 the mean to escape where there by seaplane landing in the river than flying to parts of Denmark still in Germany hand to board than U-boat in than convery of u-boats. DNA test on the bloody courch the Soviet Union claim Hilter die on because they have no know sample of Hilter DNA. I will post some videos. The ones who wanted to say that he die in Berlin are haveing than hard time of haveing it done.

    • boleyn2010 says

      Feb 1, 2014 at 2:36 pm

      KNOB!

  12. mortimer says

    Jan 31, 2014 at 9:11 pm

    The BBC interviewer said ‘UNFORTUNATELY’ many Hindus and Sikhs had joined EDL events, showing his bias. In spite of him BEGGING them to call in, no Sikhs or Hindus called in to disagree with Geller and Spencer.

    Fascinating that the predictable Lefty woman complained about anti-abortion protesters (EXCUSE ME…MUSLIMS ARE TOTALLY AGAINST ABORTION)…then she brought up the Crusades as a ‘tu quoque’ non-sequitur. Robert deftly stickhandled this fallacy by pointing out that one side’s evil does not give moral justification to the other side. (Fascinating that the Left sees nothing wrong with jihad! The Left really has a death wish!) Nevertheless, the Crusades were counterjihads following 400 years of unrelenting jihad attacks against Christendom, Byzantium, North Africa, Spain, France and especially Italy, Rome included. It took 400 years for Europeans to organize to push back the jihad.

    The imam had nothing but a circular argument: the government said Geller and Spencer would ‘divide’ Britons at the time that Cameron’s government was trying to castrate the EDL. Spencer and Geller were merely inconveniences at a time of governmental conspiracy to crush free speech.

    THE GOVERNMENT’S INCONVENIENCE IS WHAT FREE SPEECH IS MAINLY ABOUT.

  13. gravenimage says

    Feb 1, 2014 at 12:44 am

    The Spencer-Geller ban: Truth is hate crime in Cameron’s Britain

    What kind of country refuses entry to people like Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller, but welcomes with open arms war criminals, rapists, murderers, fascists and jihadists? Great Britain, of course!
    ………………………………….

    Suicidal madness from once-Great Britain.

    Kudos to Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller for continuing to fight!

    More:

    “In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” — George Orwell
    ………………………………….

    Christopher Hitches was right—Orwell matters more than ever in these days.

    More:

    Lance Bombardier Richard Field served in the Royal Canadian Artillery Regiment and fought for his country and the West as a young man in Europe in WWII. He is now fighting against resurgent Islam, which he correctly identifies as a threat greater even than that of Hitler’s Nazis.
    ………………………………….

    Yes—the logistics may be somewhat different, but I consider resurgent Islam the greatest threat we face today, even as Fascism was the greatest threat the free West faced seventy years ago.

    But now the appeasement of evil is even greater than it was in Chamberlain’s time…

  14. andrew sapia says

    Feb 1, 2014 at 1:24 pm

    How this man can even call him self a reporter while questioning Robert Spencer’s right to write a historic enquiry into the rise of Islam and the Historicity of Muhammad. It is crazy. It doesn’t matter what his motives are, why is Islam protected. This is in fact the only hope of Islam reforming its self. It’s like an alternative universe, how did we get to this point.

  15. Brian C. Hoff says

    Feb 1, 2014 at 4:15 pm

    Here is the first video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4I7noXnEz0. The reason they decide to declare Hilter dead is to protect the people who look alot like Hilter being harm by people who want vengerate for what Hilter did.

  16. Brian C. Hoff says

    Feb 1, 2014 at 4:24 pm

    Here is the second video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BegchXuiL9A. The nazie got over 50 dillion dollar out of Germany by make mean by useing U-boats, bank tranfer and swaping gold asset with people in other land.

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