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Australia: Muslim who married 13-year-old girl has bail refused over child sex charges

Feb 7, 2014 9:25 am By Robert Spencer

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Despite the abundant attestation for child marriage in Islamic law, most non-Muslims remain completely ignorant of it, because Islamic apologists in the West routinely deny that it exists, insisting that Aisha was 18 when Muhammad married her, and claiming that the incidence of child marriage in Muslim countries is due solely to cultural factors (they hope you don’t notice that those cultures are Islamic). Those who point out that child marriage will come West with Muslim immigrants receive in response only ridicule and scorn as “bigots” and “Islamophobes.” But note that this story is from Australia, not Yemen or Iran or Saudi Arabia. And while Ahmad Chamma has been prosecuted, watch for pressure to amount to lower the legal marriage age, on the grounds of “multiculturalism” and “tolerance.”

Few things are more abundantly attested in Islamic law than the permissibility of child marriage. Islamic tradition records that Muhammad’s favorite wife, Aisha, was six when Muhammad wedded her and nine when he consummated the marriage:

“The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death)” (Bukhari 7.62.88).

Another tradition has Aisha herself recount the scene:

The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became Allright, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, “Best wishes and Allah”s Blessing and a good luck.” Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah”s Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age. (Bukhari 5.58.234).

Muhammad was at this time fifty-four years old.

Marrying young girls was not all that unusual for its time, but because in Islam Muhammad is the supreme example of conduct (cf. Qur’an 33:21), he is considered exemplary in this unto today. And so in April 2011, the Bangladesh Mufti Fazlul Haque Amini declared that those trying to pass a law banning child marriage in that country were putting Muhammad in a bad light: “Banning child marriage will cause challenging the marriage of the holy prophet of Islam, [putting] the moral character of the prophet into controversy and challenge.” He added a threat: “Islam permits child marriage and it will not be tolerated if any ruler will ever try to touch this issue in the name of giving more rights to women.” The Mufti said that 200,000 jihadists were ready to sacrifice their lives for any law restricting child marriage.

Likewise the influential website Islamonline.com in December 2010 justified child marriage by invoking not only Muhammad’s example, but the Qur’an as well:

The Noble Qur’an has also mentioned the waiting period [i.e. for a divorced wife to remarry] for the wife who has not yet menstruated, saying: “And those who no longer expect menstruation among your women, if you doubt, then their period is three months, and [also for] those who have not menstruated” [Qur’an 65:4]. Since this is not negated later, we can take from this verse that it is permissible to have sexual intercourse with a prepubescent girl. The Qur’an is not like the books of jurisprudence which mention what the implications of things are, even if they are prohibited. It is true that the prophet entered into a marriage contract with A’isha when she was six years old, however he did not have sex with her until she was nine years old, according to al-Bukhari.

Other countries make Muhammad’s example the basis of their laws regarding the legal marriageable age for girls. Article 1041 of the Civil Code of the Islamic Republic of Iran states that girls can be engaged before the age of nine, and married at nine: “Marriage before puberty (nine full lunar years for girls) is prohibited. Marriage contracted before reaching puberty with the permission of the guardian is valid provided that the interests of the ward are duly observed.”

Iran’s Ayatollah Khomeini himself married a ten-year-old girl when he was twenty-eight. Khomeini called marriage to a prepubescent girl “a divine blessing,” and advised the faithful to give their own daughters away accordingly: “Do your best to ensure that your daughters do not see their first blood in your house.” When he took power in Iran, he lowered the legal marriageable age of girls to nine, in accord with Muhammad’s example.

“Man who ‘married’ 13-year-old girl has bail refused over child sex charges,” from the Australian Associated Press, February 7 (thanks to Twostellas):

A Sydney man has been refused bail after being charged over allegations of a live-in sexual relationship with a 13-year-old girl.

Ahmad Chamma, 26, allegedly met a 12-year-old girl in the Hunter region in 2012 and became involved in an ongoing sexual relationship with her.

The pair then allegedly moved to a house in Sydney’s south-west, where they continued the relationship.

Police claim the man and child were married in a religious ceremony in NSW earlier this year and the schoolgirl is now 13.

He was charged with 25 counts of sexual intercourse with a child between 10 and 14 years.

The man made a brief appearance at Burwood local court on Friday and spoke via an Arabic interpreter.

He made no application for bail and it was formally refused.

The court heard he will make a bail application during his next court appearance on 12 February at the same court.

The child has been taken into care.

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  1. David says

    Feb 7, 2014 at 9:36 am

    A Lebanese university student had only been in Australia for a matter of weeks when he laid his eyes on his future wife.

    He did not seem to mind that she was only 12-years-old.

    The 26-year-old stepped off a plane in Sydney last August with a student visa and the intention of furthering his education at the University of Newcastle. At a local mosque, he met a 12-year-old girl whom he would later marry during an Islamic ceremony.

    Police allege the accused took primary care of the young girl and moved with her to a home in Sydney’s south-west.

    In this home, he is accused of having sexual intercourse with the girl 25 times between January 1 and February 4. He told police he married the girl earlier this year and does not believe he has done anything wrong.

    Commander of the Child Abuse Squad, Detective Inspector Peter Yeomans, said it was hard to believe such terrible offences could occur to a girl at “an obviously very tender age”.

    “You have to take religion and culture out if it and see it for what it is – a sexual assault of a 12-year-old-child,” Inspector Yeomans said.

    “In the end it is a 12-year-old child [and] no matter how we look at and how he wants to sway it culturally, ceremonies or anything else … he has been charged with numerous counts of sexual assault,” he said. “I was astonished in relation to the background of the information.”

    Fairfax Media understands the accused tried to enroll the victim at a school close to their home but was not able to without legal guardianship.

    It is believed he went to Centrelink in order to become the girl’s legal guardian but a government worker reported his application to NSW Police.

    On Thursday, child abuse squad detectives arrested the 26-year-old and took him to Auburn Police Station.

    He was charged with 25 counts of sexual intercourse with a child aged between 10 and 14.

    At the time of his arrest, his child bride had turned 13.

    The young girl was taken into the protection of Family and Community Services where she will remain until a permanent home is found for her.

    She has been medically examined and received counselling.

    It is not clear whether the girl’s father and mother were aware of the union.

    At Burwood Local Court on Friday, the man sat silently in the dock wearing an orange, grey and white polo shirt and listened to the proceedings with the help of an Arabic interpreter.

    Bail was not applied for but the magistrate Christopher Longley formally refused it.

    The accused’s lawyer said his client wished to make an application for bail next Wednesday, February 12.

    The Family and Community Services Minister, Pru Goward, said she was ”horrified” by the case.

    ”Whatever the cultural practice, whatever the religious practice, there is no law in Australia above Australian law,” she said.

    ”In this country, little girls have rights and in particular they have the right to a childhood free of this sort of abuse. That is what we are here as a community to uphold.”

    Ms Goward said she was aware there was a large number of unlawful, unregistered marriages to under age girls in NSW particularly in western Sydney and the Blue Mountains.

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/national/child-abuse-charges-for-man-26-who-claims-he-married-12yearold-girl-20140207-327bg.html#ixzz2se9bEnFP

    “You have to take religion & culture out of it”. But you can’t, this is Islam teaching him to believe “he has done nothing wrong”.

    • Charli Main says

      Feb 7, 2014 at 11:00 am

      David,
      Perhaps this Muslim pervert though he could get an Australian passport and leave to stay indefinitely in the country if he married this girl.
      Brit women going on holiday to countries like Turkey are constantly targeted by hotel waiters for exactly this reason.
      I LOVE YOU, MARRY ME, GIVE ME BRITISH PASSPORT -a favourite song of Muslim Turks desperate to get into Britain.

      • baris says

        Feb 12, 2014 at 6:01 am

        mate I am muslim and against tochild marriage this is terrible But I have a question to you.
        Mate what made you speak for British girls?Did you loose your partner there? Because that’s most British does they go holiday Turkey and British girls live there boyfriends there fining a Turk for them self.

        • Rachael says

          May 6, 2014 at 7:46 pm

          You are Muslim and are against child marriage..? Tell me how this works..?

          You believe that the “prophet” Muhammad was a true prophet of God and yet he married a 6 year old and raped her at 9. Which is something that you don’t agree with.

          I’m sorry, but ANY logical person would say that you DON’T agree with the “prophet” and therefore are NOT a follower of Islam.

          I’m not attempting to be cruel or hurtful, but it’s true. Please, learn to think for yourself and be rid of this demon cult.

  2. Mannie says

    Feb 7, 2014 at 9:57 am

    Barbarians from barbaric countries, acting barbarically.

    Why do we tolerate these “people” over here? What do they contribute to our society?

    • dad says

      Feb 8, 2014 at 8:19 am

      Death, violence, disease, child sex, hate, isolation, preschoolers prostitution, welfare claims, medical claims, entire areas into sharia zones, and blessings from obama.

      Otherwise, social cancer mostly.

  3. Semeru says

    Feb 7, 2014 at 10:19 am

    Iran’s Ayatollah Khomeini himself married a ten-year-old girl when he was twenty-eight.

    Can RS give a link to back up this claim.

    • Defcon 4 says

      Feb 7, 2014 at 4:11 pm

      I never realized SoA’s were so lazy.

    • RodSerling says

      Feb 7, 2014 at 4:17 pm

      I second your request. I see that Robert provides a note, possibly for a reference for this claim (on page 187, note 24) in his book “Religion of Peace? Why Christianity is and Islam Isn’t,” but I don’t have a copy, and I can’t see the note itself through Google Books. It is of course plausible that Khomeini did take a ten-year-old bride, given that Shia law in Iran permits men to marry young girls including girls who’ve not reached puberty [1]. However, the issue here is being able to provide a source for the claim, which is especially important when addressing anyone other than the “choir,” so to speak.

      That said, I don’t think this particular claim is important. What’s important is to have online reliable references for all such claims about Islamic law, the practices of popular influential Muslim figures (such as Khomeini), etc.

      [1] http://books.google.ca/books/about/Law_of_Desire.html?id=f1CzcNX-nVgC
      Law of Desire: Temporary Marriage in Shi’i Iran
      By Shahla Haeri

    • RodSerling says

      Feb 7, 2014 at 5:19 pm

      Semeru,

      The reference is The Spirit of Allah : Khomeini and the Islamic Revolution by Amir Taheri, c1985, p. 90-1

      http://gemsofislamism.tripod.com/bk_khomeini_taheri.html

      QUOTES:

      Khomeini’s Permanent Marriage and the Position of Women in 1930s Iran

      “Late in summer of 1930,” Khomeini went to Tehran to try and get the hand in marriage of one of Ayatollah Saqafi’s daughters. His Talabeh friend Lavasani was “the son of a wealthy Tehrani family which boasted as its head Ayatollah Mohammad-Hussein Saqafi, a pious and respected religious leader in south Tehran who complemented his income from donations by the faithful with occasional business transactions in the bazaar” (p.83)
      Khomeini only knew Lavasani and didn’t even know the names of the daughters (that was a secret) let alone had seen a picture of them.

      “One of Saqafi’s daughters, Batul, who was nicknamed Iran, was, at the age of ten, the most likely bride-to-be.” Batul served tea “suitably covered in a chador … She did not speak, as a girl whose voice was heard by strangers would be doomed.”

      The marriage was sealed by a good omen in the form of a dream by Batul were “she was visited by Holy Fatima, the Prophet’s daughter. Fatima told Batul in the dram, `Oh sister, you are to marry a marry [man?] who has been born on the same day as my birthday.`” Which turned out to be true.

      “Ruhollah had made a suitable marriage. He was being taken into a wealthy, highly respected family. Batul was a sayyedah and the match, therefore, meant that the blood of the Prophet would not be mixed with that of outsiders. It was a late marriage by the standards of Islam, [late for who!!! He was 28 or so, but she was 10] … At a time when most men died in their thirties, Ruhollah could not have been unaware of the seemingly short time left to raise a family…”

      They moved to Qom and “in January 1931 Batul began her 11th year and was already expecting her first child. Her husband admired and adored her, although in deference to the rule that only Allah could be loved, he would not have said that what he felt for Batul was love. … ” (The Spirit of Allah : Khomeini and the Islamic Revolution by Amir Taheri, c1985, p. 90-1)

      END OF QUOTES

      • Semeru says

        Feb 8, 2014 at 1:49 am

        Rod, RS also in his book ‘Islam Unveiled’ mentions the fact that Ayatollah Khomeini never took a second wife.

        So how is it Amir Taheri, says Khomeini wife was named Batul, when in fact her name was Khadijeh Saqafi

        He also claims Late in summer of 1930,” Khomeini went to Tehran to try and get the hand in marriage of one of Ayatollah Saqafi’s daughters….

        There are many source citing various dates of birth ranging from 1913-1916, so if what Taheri claims is correct, the there is no way she was 10 or 11

        By the way Amir Taheri who has been the subject of many controversies involving fabrications in his writings, is not a very reliable source

        Iranian Jew Shaul Bakhash PhD, a historian and leading expert in Iranian studies at George Mason University had this to say about Taheri

        Taheri concocts conspiracies in his writings, and noted that he “repeatedly refers us to books where the information he cites simply does not exist. Often the documents cannot be found in the volumes to which he attributes them…. [He] repeatedly reads things into the documents that are simply not there.

        So why doesn’t RS give a link

        • RodSerling says

          Feb 8, 2014 at 11:34 am

          Semeru,

          I can’t vouch for the authenticity of the source, but it is the one Robert cites in his books for the claim that Komeini married a ten-year-old. That some people impugn Taheri as a source carries little weight as far as I’m concerned. In each case, it all comes down to what the evidence shows.

          I think you are raising a valid concern about properly supporting claims with evidence. It disappoints me, but doesn’t surprise me, that most commenters here are taking you to task for raising the issue, rather than supporting your call to provide and examine the sources and evidence.

        • Leo says

          Feb 8, 2014 at 3:22 pm

          I also believe in seeing original sources and evidence. It helps with one’s arguments if need be with all the relevant data at hand.

        • Semeru says

          Feb 9, 2014 at 4:45 am

          Rod

          To accuse some-one pedophilia is a serious charge, so should be backed up with evidence.

          What is amazing, is RS is always pounding his chest about his debating skills, but he fails to give a link to prove that Khomeini was as pedophile.

        • RodSerling says

          Feb 9, 2014 at 2:01 pm

          Semeru,

          In response to your comment at February 9, 2014 at 4:45 am, I’ve never seen Robert boast about his debating skills. I’ve seen him give open challenges to Islamic apologists, laying down the gauntlet so to speak, saying that none have been able to substantively refute his claims about Islam. I’ve followed this site for almost 9 years, and as far as I’ve seen, that is correct: No Islamic apologist has been able to refute any of his major claims about Islam.

        • Semeru says

          Feb 9, 2014 at 3:48 pm

          Rod

          Why cant he give a link

        • RodSerling says

          Feb 9, 2014 at 3:57 pm

          Semeru,

          Ask him. I assume he’s busy.

        • RodSerling says

          Feb 9, 2014 at 8:16 pm

          Semeru,

          I’ve done a bit of searching. Based on my initial search of English sources available through google, there does not appear to be agreement on exactly how old Khomeini’s wife (Khadijah or Khadijeh, aka Qodsi) was when he married her. The lowest explicit estimate (excluding Taheri’s) I’ve seen is 12 or 13, and the highest 16 years of age at the time of her marriage to Khomeini. There is also some disagreement over her birth year (1913 or 1916), the year of the wedding (1929, or 1931), and the year of the birth of their first child (1930, or 1927–the latter seems unlikely if we take the marriage to have occurred in 1929 and her birth year as 1916). There may be additional estimates for each of those events. Multiple sources say she died at age 93, in 2009. That would make her year of birth about 1916. If she was born in about 1916 and married in 1929, then she’d be about 13 at the time of marriage.

    • JimJFox says

      Feb 7, 2014 at 7:51 pm

      Easy to google this stuff-
      [LGB= Little Green Book of Ayatollah Khomeini]

      LGB p.56 If a man who has **married a girl who has not reached puberty
      possesses her sexually before her ninth birthday**, inflicting
      traumatisms upon her, he has no right to repeat such an act with
      her.
      If a man sodomizes the son, brother, or father of his wife after their
      marriage, the marriage remains valid

      LGB P60 It is highly recommended **that a girl be married off as soon as she
      reaches the age of puberty**. One of the blessings of man is to have his
      daughter experience her first period not in her father’s house, but in
      that of her husband.

      Let me begin with a quote from a fatwa by the late and unlamented Ayatollah Khomeini of Iran.

      “A man can marry a girl younger than nine years of age, **even if the girl is still a baby being breastfed**. A man, however is prohibited from having intercourse **with a girl younger than nine, other sexual acts such as foreplay, rubbing, kissing and sodomy is allowed**. A man having intercourse with a girl younger than nine years of age has not committed a crime, but only an infraction

      http://www.investigateislam.com/ayatollah_khomeini.htm

  4. KrazyKafir says

    Feb 7, 2014 at 10:44 am

    Why, do you think it’s implausible for a man whose, first order of business, was to lower the legal marrying age of females to 9 years old, wouldn’t partake in his own law? Are you not curious about this claim too: “Khomeini called marriage to a prepubescent girl “a divine blessing,””

  5. exsgtbrown says

    Feb 7, 2014 at 12:55 pm

    A member of the Islamic Assembly (Majlis) and its ‘Judicial Commission’, Nayereh Akhavan , has said that there can be no ban on child marriages because there are ten year olds who have reached ‘sexual and intellectual puberty’ and because it would ‘contradict sharia’. We know Islam’s prophet consummated his ‘marriage’ with Aisha when she was 9. And of course there is Ayatollah Khomeini ‘s book of sayings: ‘Tahrir al Wasilah’, where he says that a man can even have sex with a baby.

    He says: ‘A man can have sexual pleasure from a child as young as a baby. However, he should not penetrate vaginally, but sodomising the child is acceptable. If a man does penetrate and damage the child then, he should be responsible for her subsistence all her life. This girl will not count as one of his four permanent wives and the man will not be eligible to marry the girl’s sister… It is better for a girl to marry at such a time when she would begin menstruation at her husband’s house, rather than her father’s home. Any father marrying his daughter so young will have a permanent place in heaven.’

    There’s more on sex with animals and placing penises between the thighs of weaning babes if you have the stomach to read on.

    The book in English is very inappropriately called Ruhollah Khomeini, Sayings of the Ayatollah Khomeini: Political, Philosophical, Social, & Religious (“The Little Green Book”) [Bantam Books, September 1985, New York/London. ISBN 0553140329] by the moral relativist brigade.

    • Semeru says

      Feb 7, 2014 at 2:04 pm

      Firstly I have asked RS for a link that supports his claim that Khomeini,s wife was 10 years old when they where married.

      This is not the first time I have asked, why is it so difficult to provide a link.

      exsgtbrown claims

      And of course there is Ayatollah Khomeini ‘s book of sayings: ‘Tahrir al Wasilah’, where he says that a man can even have sex with a baby……

      This is utter bullshit, the quote is supposed to come from Khomeini’s book, Tahrirolvasyleh, vol. 4, Darol Elm, Gom, Iran, 1990. Now the problem is, there is no volume 4 for this book.

      If there was why is there no reference to page numbers, or ISBN, why are there so many sites this mythe, but no links to the page in either English or Farsi. Why is there no screen shots.

      Further more “The Little Green Book” is an entirely different book, and can be read on line

      http://prophetofdoom.net/The_Little_Green_Book_1_01.Islam

      Also

      • ecosse1314 says

        Feb 7, 2014 at 2:37 pm

        I am sure RS can reply for himself should he so wish. I am curious however whether you accept that the so-called perfect man Mohammed is guilty of child sex abuse?

        • voegelinian says

          Feb 9, 2014 at 2:15 pm

          We’ll probably never get a straightforward reply from Semeru on that question — the most important question in this context. He seems to have a habit of focusing on less important questions.

      • marclouis says

        Feb 7, 2014 at 3:31 pm

        is this what you were looking for? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60MC3bVFG6s

        • Clare says

          Feb 8, 2014 at 12:19 am

          During this (most vile) narration, I was thinking that this same Satanic evil is found in most countries that I know of. One glaring difference between Islam and, say, other Western religions and persons (with no affiliation) who do the crime of pedophilia is that Westerners know that abusing children is criminal and so they do it in secrete. Islam sanctions this criminal behavior so it’s done openly. A similarity is that even this narrator was repelled by this but didn’t contradict “the Imam”; sounds like this may be what happens in (other) religious hierarchies and between a Western mother, say, and her pedophile boyfriend; they say, who am I to contradict so powerful a person as yourself while you commit this heinous act against my/a child. In this video, the parents just gave the child to him. This is a real life Sodom and Gomorrah.

      • Clare says

        Feb 7, 2014 at 11:21 pm

        Can you not do your own research? Why is it so difficult for you to find out for yourself?

        • Semeru says

          Feb 8, 2014 at 2:14 am

          I have done a lot of research, because to marry a 10 year is a very vile deed, so to accuse some of some so utterly disgusting is indeed a very serious matter, and should be backed up by a reliable source.

          I claim that Komeini did not marry his wife when she was only 10.

          Prove me wrong.

      • gravenimage says

        Feb 8, 2014 at 1:54 am

        Semeru wrote:

        Firstly I have asked RS for a link that supports his claim that Khomeini,s wife was 10 years old when they where married.

        This is not the first time I have asked, why is it so difficult to provide a link.
        …………………………

        Good grief—it’s not.

        Here’s the hagiographical “The Spirit of Allah: Khomeini and the Islamic Revolution” by Amir Taheri:

        “Late in summer of 1930,” Khomeini went to Tehran to try and get the hand in marriage of one of Ayatollah Saqafi’s daughters. His Talabeh friend Lavasani was “the son of a wealthy Tehrani family which boasted as its head Ayatollah Mohammad-Hussein Saqafi, a pious and respected religious leader in south Tehran who complemented his income from donations by the faithful with occasional business transactions in the bazaar”…

        “One of Saqafi’s daughters, Batul, who was nicknamed Iran, was, at the age of ten, the most likely bride-to-be.” Batul served tea “suitably covered in a chador … She did not speak, as a girl whose voice was heard by strangers would be doomed.”

        The marriage was sealed by a good omen in the form of a dream by Batul were “she was visited by Holy Fatima, the Prophet’s daughter. Fatima told Batul in the [dream], `Oh sister, you are to marry a [man] who has been born on the same day as my birthday.`” Which turned out to be true.

        “Ruhollah had made a suitable marriage. He was being taken into a wealthy, highly respected family. Batul was a sayyedah and the match, therefore, meant that the blood of the Prophet would not be mixed with that of outsiders…

        They moved to Qom and “in January 1931 Batul began her 11th year…”

        http://gemsofislamism.tripod.com/bk_khomeini_taheri.html

        Note that this is not in the least critical of Khomeini marrying a child, so this is clearly not something concocted to make a pious Muslim “look bad”.

        Instead, it treats the rape of a child as perfectly Islamic. And why not? the pious Ayatollah certainly did—in his marriage to a ten-year-old girl, in his lowering the marriage age of girl’s in Iran to nine, and in his writings about raping and abuse little children as young as infants.

        • Semeru says

          Feb 8, 2014 at 2:29 am

          A question for Gravenimage

          If as Taheri claims that late in summer of 1930,” Khomeini went to Tehran to try and get the hand in marriage of one of Ayatollah Saqafi’s daughters, how can she be 10 or 11 when was wed, when according to most biographies she was born either in 1913 or 1916 ?

          So if Taheri is correct then give a source stating she was born 1920

          Taheri has been proven as a fabricator of truth.

        • Jan says

          Feb 8, 2014 at 8:19 am

          ”Taheri has been proven as a fabricator of truth.”

          Perhaps he is, perhaps he isn’t.

          There is, however, no disputing the fact that Khomeini, whilst in power, lowered the marriageable age of girls to **nine**.

          You never seem willing to get to grips with that **fact**, semeru. Why did he do it ? Do tell us what you think.

          As for Khomeini’s wife, according to wiki, she died in 2009 at the age of 93, but in fact her dob is given as 1913.

          I’m no mathematician, but even I can see that doesn’t add up. Wiki says 93, because that would make her 16 in 1929, the marriage date, and wiki would prefer to fudge the whole issue of child marriage. Whereas if one does the sum, she was actually **13** when he married her.

          Still vile child abuse, whichever way you choose to slice it.

        • gravenimage says

          Feb 8, 2014 at 7:19 pm

          Semeru wrote:

          A question for Gravenimage…

          So if Taheri is correct then give a source stating she was born 1920
          ………………………………………

          You aren’t going to find a lot of hospital-issued birth certificates in Iran in 1920, if that’s what you’re asking for.

          But Taheri clearly asserts Batul’s age as having been ten.

          More:

          Taheri has been proven as a fabricator of truth.
          ………………………………………

          Well, this is true—I believe the word you are looking for here is “Muslim”.

          Sometimes context *does* matter, though, and this is one of those times.

          Taheri is not here being critical of Khomeini at all.

          Even though a civilized and sympathetic person can easily read between the lines of this grown man’s abuse and rape of a child too terrified even to speak, it is notable that Taheri presents the whole sordid story as a positive and praiseworthy episode.

          Indeed, the whole tone of “The Spirit of Allah: Khomeini and the Islamic Revolution” is virtually hagiographical, as I noted. He knew his audience would have had no moral qualms about a grown man raping a child.

          In contrast, most of the sources that claim that Batul was born earlier—please note that they do not provide a birth certificate, either—are aimed at a Western audience that might be critical of such abusive pedophilia.

          Ultimately, I consider the story not confirmed—I very much doubt it will ever be, one way or the other—but certainly solidly plausible.

        • Semeru says

          Feb 8, 2014 at 11:08 pm

          Indeed, the whole tone of “The Spirit of Allah: Khomeini and the Islamic Revolution” is virtually hagiographical

          Poppycock, Is is very unlikely that Taheri is idolizing Khomeini, he was once editor of a strongly pro-Shah Iranian newspaper during the seventies, left the country after the revolution, strongly opposed to Iran’s current government.

          Elena Benador, PR agent for Taheri (as well as Victor Davis Hanson, Charles Krauthammer, Richard Perle,) defended Taheri. Benador explained that, when it comes to Iran, accuracy is “a luxury.”

          You aren’t going to find a lot of hospital-issued birth certificates in Iran in 1920, if that’s what you’re asking for.

          I am not asking for a birth certificate, just a site/source that claims
          she was born 1920

        • voegelinian says

          Feb 9, 2014 at 2:59 pm

          “when according to most biographies she was born either in 1913 or 1916 ?”

          What biographies?

    • Defcon 4 says

      Feb 7, 2014 at 4:15 pm

      “Any father marrying his daughter so young will have a permanent place in heaven”
      Is that a money-back if not completely satisfied kinda guarantee?

  6. No Fear says

    Feb 7, 2014 at 5:21 pm

    “Ms Goward said she was aware there was a large number of unlawful, unregistered marriages to under age girls in NSW particularly in western Sydney and the Blue Mountains.”

    There are many muslims in western Sydney but there are almost no muslims in the Blue Mountains where I live. So who is marrying children in the Blue Mountains? I must find out.

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Feb 7, 2014 at 6:39 pm

      It may be that by “Blue Mountains” the speaker meant places in the (eastern) foothills of same – e.g. Penrith. But in any case I am sure that the mohammedans intend to colonise every part of Australia, and there may be mohammedans already present but as yet keeping a low profile.

  7. Ann says

    Feb 7, 2014 at 5:43 pm

    Regardless if whatever law you are all talking about this happened in Australia and our law is not governed by any religious acts or movements. It is against Austrslian law to have sex with a child and certainly cannot marry one. This man has broken the law of w land and needs to be punished rhe same as any other person convicted of the same crime and if her parents were involved in it at all they should be charged as accessories. Religion has nothing to do with the laws in this country and should never do so.

    • Kev says

      Feb 8, 2014 at 5:54 pm

      Australia is a democracy; currently society, and the law protects children. Until a ‘Bill of Rights’ is written into the Australian Constitution, guaranteeing the fundamental Christian, God (YWWH) given freedoms and rights; we citizens and the migrants who take refuge under, seeking escape from persecutions of personnel freedoms, tend to take for granted; multi-cultural Australia is under duress.
      http://www.catholic.com/quickquestions/is-gods-name-yahweh-or-jehovah (God’s Name)
      http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=exodus%2020:3&version=NIV (First Commandment)
      http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/moongod.htm (Allah is a pagan deity)

  8. Salome says

    Feb 7, 2014 at 8:17 pm

    Ignorantia juris non excusat. That’s fine, but when will those determining immigration policy wake up to the fact that Australians generally DON’T care what colour a person is, or what people LOOK like, but if given the choice probably wouldn’t want to introduce into our society people whose values are so fundamentally opposed to ours that they don’t realise such a basic thing that marrying off little girls isn’t good for them or, for that matter, particularly satisfying in all but the most disgusting way to any ‘mature’ man marrying them. Surely it’s not ‘racist’ to be concerned. On another note, early reports just said that the girl was married in a ‘religious’ ceremony and a later report suggested that the police were flabbergasted because usually in cases of underage sex, the parents were the people who objected, where here they appear to have organised it. The Minister appears to be more aware than the police in this respect.

  9. dumbledoresarmy says

    Feb 7, 2014 at 11:58 pm

    Addressing all Australian jihadwatchers.

    The NSW Minister for Family and Community Services, Pru Goward, has said *this*: ”Whatever the cultural practice, whatever the religious practice, there is no law in Australia above Australian law,” she said.”

    This is very, very important.

    Aussie jihadwatchers – especially if you live in NSW, where all this is happening – please write to the Minister and commend her for stating a very important principle so plainly. Express your total agreement and approval of this principle.

    State, however, that you therefore expect to see fine words issuing in consistent *actions*: *actions* to *enforce* Australian law and to see that it *is* enforced…not only with regard to forced ‘marriage’ of underage girls, but also with regard to any number of other nasties, such as FGM, and polygyny (which is often combined with massive welfare fraud).

    When you do write: be sure to tell the Minister about Aisha, and the multiple Muslim ‘clerics’ who have cited the ‘marriage’ of little Aisha as justification for the marital rape of little girls by adult men. Be sure to tell her – as calmly and briefly as you can, but citing the canonical texts – that ‘marriage’ to little girls, even prepubescent girls (Quran 65:3) is *perfectly normative Islam*. Encourage her to read Ayaan Hirsi Ali, and Nonie Darwish on Sharia, and Wafa Sultan.

    Those who commit these crimes must be tracked down and punished to the fullest extent of the law. A Muslim bigamist or trigamist or quadrigamist with one official ‘wife’ and one or two or three ‘mosque wives’ ‘on the side’ must be identified and JAILED, exactly as if he were an infidel bigamist. If he’s using his ‘mosque wives’ to game the welfare system, he must be punished for welfare fraud…good and hard. Imams and families that connive in and cover up for this sort of thing, require to be punished as well, as accessories to a breach of the law.

    Cases like these can become “levers” with which – if we’re smart, and act fast and together – we can push back, hard, against Islamisation.

    There should be a further, concerted, public demand for the ultimate deportation of the man in this case. He is not a citizen – he’s only been in the country six months – and it should be a doddle to get rid of him, therefore, once he’s tried, and sentenced, and has done his time.

    There could also be Questions asked about the influx of foreign Muslim ‘students’, so many of whom – like this man – behave badly and break Australian laws within a very short time of hopping off the plane. So perhaps there should be letters to assorted Australian universities, citing this case, and asking very pointed questions. And letters to State and Federal Education ministers.

    And letters to the Immigration Minister, citing this case (and there are various others one could cite) and asking for a curtailment of Muslim entry into Australia.

  10. gravenimage says

    Feb 8, 2014 at 1:34 am

    Australia: Muslim who married 13-year-old girl has bail refused over child sex charges
    ………………………………….

    And how many other little girls has this happened to in the West—in Canada, in the United States, in Britain ad Europe?

    The Iraqi woman who was “Honor Killed” in California last year turned out to have been a child bride, brought into the US as a “niece”, rather than a wife.

    More:

    Police claim the man and child were married in a religious ceremony in NSW earlier this year and the schoolgirl is now 13.

    He was charged with 25 counts of sexual intercourse with a child between 10 and 14 years.
    ………………………………….

    *Good*. I’m glad to see a nation prosecuting these pedophiles.

    More:

    The child has been taken into care.
    ………………………………….

    What happened to her parents? Did they sell her into marriage?

    And I hope Child Protective Services—or whatever the term is in Australia—isn’t so “politically correct’ as to place the victim in a Muslim household.

  11. Michael says

    Feb 8, 2014 at 4:56 am

    Look forward to seeing Robert In Australia soon.

  12. Ryan says

    Feb 8, 2014 at 6:44 am

    I am so glad to see that the Minister and the police have acted swiftly on this case. It is important for the Islamic community to realise that their cultural practices will not be permitted where it is conflict with Australian law. What is also important is that they get the message that the introduction of sharia will never, ever happen in Australia. I note, too, that the NSW state government is to increase the penalties for female genital mutilation from 7 to 21 years. These savages who come to Australia and expect to practice their barbarism in our country should face the full weight of the law. If they don’t like our freedoms, I can show them the way to the airport.

  13. doreva says

    Feb 8, 2014 at 2:53 pm

    the commentary about Aisha and how her hair fell out and then she was taken by her aunties to be introduced this: ” I was breathless then, and when my breathing became Allright, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it.” is symptomatic of anxiety attack…and reaction to stress….post traumatic stress? the hair falling out part? the “breathless” part and then dousing her with cold water to bring her around, these people were dealing with a panic stricken child, and abusing her like a piece of meat…

  14. Paul says

    Feb 8, 2014 at 2:55 pm

    Notice how the report describes him as “a Sydney man”, but we have to read on a way before we learn that he “spoke via an Arabic interpreter”. What conceivable connection to Sydney does he have?

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