He was a moderate — until he wasn’t. He was an ordinary Muslim, not an Islamist — until he starting talking about bomb making. He moved in and among the Muslim community — holding views on jihad violence and terrorism that the leaders of that community profess to reject and abhor. Khurram Sher is the living embodiment of the truth of what I am often vilified for saying, that there is no distinction in Muslim communities between those who hope to wage violent jihad and those who abhor it.
This doesn’t mean that all Muslims are terrorists or some other such nonsense. It simply means that those who hold to doctrines of violent jihad are not expelled from mosques, and mosques do not have programs teaching against these ideas that they ostensibly reject. “Former Canadian Idol contestant’s dinner chat moves from ice cream to ‘violent jihad’ on secret tapes, terrorism trial hears,” by Chris Cobb for Postmedia News, February 11 (thanks to Karl):
OTTAWA — In a secretly-recorded conversation played publicly for the first time Tuesday, accused terrorism collaborator Khurram Sher discusses bomb making and appears to suggest a repatriation ceremony at Canadian Forces Base Trenton as a possible target.
The conversation between the 31-year-old Montreal-born pathologist and two alleged co-conspirators then turns to their bearded appearances, which brings a suggestion from Dr. Sher that they might shave and “wear Canadian colours.” To which one of his alleged co-conspirators responds: “We’ll break their backs in their own country.”
During the July 20, 2010 conversation, recorded by the RCMP using microphones hidden in the apartment where the trio met, Dr. Sher also speaks of the ease with which he could buy components for bomb making.
“I can just go to, like, a hardware store and buy a few things to build a bomb. I’m sure it’s possible.”
Crown prosecutor Jason Wakely had told the court earlier that the conversation shows that Dr. Sher and his alleged associates were bent on “violent jihad.”
Dr. Sher is pleading not guilty to conspiring with two others to facilitate a terrorist activity, which police have alleged also involved a possible bomb attack in the Ottawa area. His trial in an Ottawa courtroom began Monday.
The hour-long conversation played with a written transcript displayed on TV and computer screens takes place during a dinner and starts with a mundane exchange about the food, the benefits of gluten-free products and the merits of President’s Choice ice cream. One of the three reads the list of ingredients from the ice cream package.
The banter is often lighthearted and peppered with laughter.
After dinner, the conversation turns more political with talk of Afghanistan, Islam and secure ways of communicating….
chicvic says
We hear this scenario only too often……Moderate law abiding muslims will NOT speak out against the Extremist muslims, personally I do not think the reason is not because they are scared of repercussions it is because they agree in their hearts with what extremists are doing…it is a muslim goal for Islam and Sharia to reighn globaly and to abolish the western ways/culture altogether.
JOHN SPIELMAN says
i wonder if this evil doer has been waging a jihad against the Canadian people by intentionally misreading pathology slides and thus missing cancer or over diagnosing it! It amazes me how many vile jihadists are doctors. I wonder if the provincial college of physicians and surgeons will revoke his license to practice?
JessieJames says
If his bomb making is comparable to his singing there is an excellent chance he might go boom boom de boom.
QuoVadis says
Why do I think this guy turned radical only after he was rejected by Canadian Idol? Is that too simplistic of me?
gravenimage says
Quo Vadis wrote:
Why do I think this guy turned radical only after he was rejected by Canadian Idol? Is that too simplistic of me?
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Quo Vadis, that’s like saying that Adolph Hitler’s homicidal career as the Fascist Führer makes perfect sense when you learn that he was a failed artist (some actually make this argument).
But the world is full of failed singers and artists, and very few of them turn on their society like this.
This is, however, *very* common among Muslims.
h says
Dancing like that must be haram….unless of course it’s taqiyya of the feet.
Sovereign Man says
His act was rejected because it was too “taqiyya.”
KrazyKafir says
Notice the “invader” said “their” country. Just more proof that they’re indeed invaders, and not immigrants.
Mohammad says
Another country that will be conquered by islam eventually. Having a small population of 35 million spread out over a large area is a major weakness. Jihad by the womb will succeed in this country as well, because the Western Dhimmi especially the liberal Dhimmi can’t get enough of islam. The left is allied with islam as well mainly because they see islam as another victim group they can use to get votes. Their short sightedness will be their downfall.
dumbledoresarmy says
Why so eager to “assume the sale”?? To trumpet, loudly, “all is lost!! Despair!”
Despite your moniker you come across (in other postings) as a non-Muslim…but open expressions of despair, predictions of inevitable defeat because “we gonna lose the Breeding Race” (quaere: *what* is the total number of people you think Canada, given its mostly-atrocious climate and the fact that most of its land surface is Arctic and subarctic tundra, is *realistically* capable of supporting at a decent modern level of subsistence into the indefinite, i.e. at *least* the next 500 years, *without* terminally damaging its *finite* natural life-support systems? ) etc, are totally counter-productive, especially when those making them offer *no* constructive suggestions as to how one might turn around the perceived negative trends. All that such statements achieve is to feed the gloating triumphalism of *the muslims who frequent this website also, lurking and reading over our shoulders*.
I do not think we should feed those mohammedan lurkers *anything*, no matter what our current mood nor how bleakly we may ‘read’ a given situation.
Salah says
How to prepare oneself for the Islamic Idol contest…
http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2010/05/drawing-muhammad-dessiner-mahomet.html
Sovereign Man says
The Taliban is known for their emulation of Moe-ham, including the wearing of eyeliner, dying of beards red, and keeping of “chai boys” as sex slaves.
fair_dinkum says
its wearing thin to threadbare..
i wasnt but now i am … he misunderstood. he was never an extremist. et al
i know that the standard upbringing of moslems in western societies is the same as in dar al islam. hence pack rape, hideous assaults, inbreeding, welfare fraud, honour killings, support of jihad, pedophilia, abuse of women and all the other wonderful contributions to society by these brainwashed, brain dead parasites.
these deeds only reinforce that every moslem is a potential mass murderer.
thats all i can take away from these incidents.
show me different, islam.
of course you cant.
gravenimage says
Canada: Jihad mass murder plotter was Canadian Idol contestant — “We’ll break their backs in their own country”
He was a moderate — until he wasn’t. He was an ordinary Muslim, not an Islamist — until he starting talking about bomb making…
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That pretty much sums it up. How committed was Khurram Sher to Western values when he was singing “Complicated” and talking about how he likes hockey on Canadian Idol? Probably not very…
More:
The conversation between the 31-year-old Montreal-born pathologist and two alleged co-conspirators then turns to their bearded appearances, which brings a suggestion from Dr. Sher that they might shave and “wear Canadian colours.” To which one of his alleged co-conspirators responds: “We’ll break their backs in their own country.”
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In other words, pious Muslims in the West are just familiar enough with Western culture to plausibly “pass”, without actually holding any of the values of the people they intend to victimize.
This just makes them more dangerous…