As we have often seen in other cases, the family of an Islamic jihadist is shocked! Shocked! to find that he was involved in such a thing. Abdul Waheed Majeed showed no signs of “extremism,” according to his family. He was, apparently, a “moderate” of the type that the British government so very much wants in Britain. And yet here again we see that in the absence of any clear action against the understanding of Islam that justifies jihad violence on the part of Muslims in the U.K., there is nothing being done to stop more Muslims from taking up that understanding. There was just a report released by Usama Hasan of the Quilliam Foundation that purports to refute the jihadists’ understanding of Islam on Islamic grounds; I will try to get hold of a copy, but the noted Islam expert Mark Durie doesn’t have a positive view of it, so I don’t have high hopes.
“Police search Crawley home of alleged Syria suicide bomber,” from ITV, February 12 (thanks to Marc):
Alleged Syria bomber ‘no extremist’ says family
The family of a man suspected to be the first British suicide bomber in Syria was in the country doing humanitarian work for a charity, his family says.
Abdul Waheed Majeed is a father of two boys and a girl aged 18, 16 and 12. He was born and bred in Crawley and worked as a highways contractor.
His uncle, Mohammad Jamil, 65, said Majeed had never shown any sign of extremism. He said: “If the family knew about this, we wouldn’t have let him go.”
Arif Syed, a community leader in Crawley, said Majeed would phone or Skype his family every three days, but communication was lost with him about seven days ago.
“He has mostly been working with a charity on the refugee camps and distributing aid which he collected from here and other towns in the UK,” Mr Syed said.

Alarmed Pig Farmer says
Abdul Waheed Majeed, who should be charged with a misdemeanor for his silly-ass name, which is as cartoonish as his belief system Islam, showed no signs of extremism cuz he appeared to be a normal male Moslem to the naked eye.
Extreme compared to what, Islam? No, he was never that. What Abdul Waheed Majeed was, and is, is an observant Moslem. And good for him, cuz he’s in Jannat now on his throne, overseeing rivulets of flowing wine, cheese plates, and piles of pubescent houris. In a phrase, the man has made it.
john spielman says
nah, the bible teaches that for unrepentant murderers theives sexually immoral etc ,that their “reward ” will be the lake of fire.
KrazyKafir says
” had never shown any sign of extremism”
How would anyone notice, after all, he was an adherent to the Qur’an.
exsgtbrown says
” had never shown any sign of extremism”
did he attend a mosque?….
mortimer says
The professional deceivers of the Quilliam Foundation are trying to lull the West in a soothing slumber while jihadists undermine freedom of speech.
Their goal is to criminalize messages that perceive a lack of perfection in Islam.
Quilliam is a disseminator of misrepresentations of Islam: 1) that Islam is not a conspiracy for world conquest 2) that jihad is not the method of world conquest 3) that Quilliam is not lying in order to cover up 1) and 2).
voegelinian says
” There was just a report released by Usama Hasan of the Quilliam Foundation that purports to refute the jihadists’ understanding of Islam on Islamic grounds; I will try to get hold of a copy, but the noted Islam expert Mark Durie doesn’t have a positive view of it, so I don’t have high hopes. ”
That Mark Durie essay doesn’t seem to be about Usama Hasan, but about a paper titled “A Guide to Refuting Jihadism” written by Rashad Ali and Hannah Stuart.
The only rellevant Usama Hasan paper I could find on the Quilliam website is:
No Compulsion In Religion – Islam and the Freedom of Belief
by Usama Hasan
— which, we are told to our delight, “Includes an Appendix discussing the death penalty for apostasy in Sharia”.
http://www.quilliamfoundation.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/publications/free/no-compulsion-in-religion-islam-and-the-freedom-of-belief.pdf
I’ve begun reading it. For those who have lifted their little finger in the autodidactic effort at advancing on the LCPOI (the Learning Curve of the Problem of Islam), it’s like reading a Where’s Waldo? book where Waldo pops up on every page in obvious, embarrassingly brazen view. For those who have not bothered educating themselves on the problem of Islam, however, Usama Hasan’s SOSO (Same Old Same Old, aka WSTITE — Whispering Sweet Taqiyya In Their Ears) will continue to charm and beguile them with the siren song of Moderate Islam and the Moderate Muslim.
Just to pick one howler from Hasan’s propaganda paper out of dozens I could adduce that should bring tears of laughter to our eyes:
From books and films to cartoons, teddy bears and desecration of copies of the Qur’an by a handful of American fundamentalists and soldiers. the story is the same: instead of ignoring material insulting and offensive to Islam, or forgiving their authors as the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) would have done, some immature Muslims resort to violence that ends up killing people…
cf. Mohammed’s “Dead Poets Society” for a corrective to Hasan’s nonsense:
http://www.answering-islam.org/Authors/Arlandson/dead_poets.htm
Champ says
Oh my that is a howler,Voegelinian; since when was muhammad (perdition be upon him) EVER a forgiving person–that is such a bald-faced lie.
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
since when was muhammad… EVER a forgiving person–that is such a bald-faced lie.
Well, he didn’t slaughter his son when he got so hot for his boy’s girlfriend and went ahead and stole her. Now that was forgiveness, he coulda done his son up. But he didn’t, and my guess is he let the kid live for a highbrow reason, not cuz he didn’t want Mohammed Jr. sneaking around the tent camp hitting on his newest wife.
gravenimage says
Thanks for the links, Voegelinian.
panther says
“Abdul Waheed Majeed showed no signs of “extremism,” according to his family”
Of course, being a moslem he was in his natural elements.
Walter Sieruk says
As for the false teachers as these imams and mullahs who thoroughly brainwash other people into believing in such a place as a lust filled paradise with many virgins into the beliefs of others. As the jihadists suicide/homicide bombers must believes in, Sura 44:54. 55:56. 78:31. Such teachers these falsehoods and fables where predicted in the Bible. For the Bible reads “For the time is coming when [people] will not tolerate {endure} sound and wholesome instruction, but having ears itching [for something pleasing and gratifying], they will gather to themselves one teacher after another to a considerable number, chosen to satisfy their own liking and to foster the errors they hold, and will turn aside from hearing the truth and wonder off into myths and man-made fictions.” Second Timothy 4:3,4. Furthermore, the man who started Islam was just one of the “many false prophets [who] came into the world.”First John 4:1. Moreover, the false teachers as those imams and mullahs who teach the Quran as the truth are accursed by God, Galatians 1:6-9. – THE AMPLIFIED BIBLE
mariam rove says
One day he just woke up and became a jihadist. Just like that. M
pdxnag says
There is no extreme Islam because there is no moderate Islam.
Diluted Islam is as genuine as American-style freedom diluted by the full embrace of the Muslim Brotherhood into our government. When Hillary Clinton becomes president and Huma Abedin runs the show will the American beacon of light for freedom worldwide be extinguished? Obama is paving the way for tyranny by testing the limits of his power by claiming the constitutional power to enact legislation all by himself. Can we call it a Moderate Rule of Law? Moderation itself is a threat to something.
How is the Quilliam Foundation different from the Muslim Brotherhood?
george whyte says
are the british public still falling for this line
tpellow says
Supplementary.
“Pictured: The British married father-of-three suspected of being Syria prison suicide bomber as anti-terror police swoop on his terraced house in Crawley”
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2557600/BREAKING-NEWS-Anti-terror-officers-searching-house-Crawley-connection-claims-Briton-staged-suicide-bomb-attack-Syria.html#ixzz2t98fU5uZ
tpellow says
Of course, this is not the first Islamic jihad murderer who has used Britain as a part-time base for killing in Syria. It happens that this may be the first case of a British-based Islamikaze.
Successive British governments have wittingly, or unwittingly, facilitated such Islamic-inspired murderous violence by a joint policy of:
(a) mass immigration from Islamic countries for decades, and continuing, and
(b) preferential treatment for Islamic immigrants, and now Islamic citizens in Britain as personified in the activities of the unelected Muslim government Minister for Faith, Baroness Warsi.
PRCS says
1. So called “moderate” Muslims are like Catholics who use artificial birth control methods. Neither is in full compliance with the teachings of their respective religions. That is not to judge, but merely to provide context.
2. “Extremists/extremism”? From Merriam Webster:
“belief in and support for ideas that are very far from what most people consider correct or reasonable”
Do most Muslims believe the amputation of thieves’ hands is driven by an incorrect reading of Qur’an 5:38? Do they believe it is unreasonable? Would they carry that punishment out if they had the chance?
Of those who refer to truly devout Muslims as extremists, does it occur to them that the Pope whoud then be an extremist, too?
gravenimage says
Family of UK jihad suicide bomber says he had “never shown any sign of extremism”
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Absolute boilerplate. What does this signify, anyway? It could be out-and-out lying, it could indicate that the family doesn’t believe that suicide bombing is “extreme”, but is normative Islam. It could also mean they are simply denying that he did it.
It might also mean that Abdul Waheed Majeed hid his true intentions to family and friends, although this is the *least* likely scenario.
It any case, it is meaningless—there is still no protection against any Muslim at any Muslim at any time deciding to wage violent Jihad.
Will anyone investigate the Mosque he attended? Will anyone take a closer look at his family? His cohorts? I wouldn’t count on it…
More:
The family of a man suspected to be the first British suicide bomber in Syria was in the country doing humanitarian work for a charity, his family says.
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How often do we see the link between Jihad and “charities”? How many Islamic “charities” have been caught funneling money to Jihad? This goes *way* beyond money laundering.
This seems inexplicable to civilized Westerners, but in Islam “Zakat” can go for both charity and to “further the cause of Islam”, including its being furthered through violent terrorism.
More:
“He has mostly been working with a charity on the refugee camps and distributing aid which he collected from here and other towns in the UK,” Mr Syed said.
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I wonder how much of that “aid” has gone to funding violent Jihad? Chances are some of it came from well-meaning but clueless Infidels as well as from knowing Muslims.
Hana says
before you spout ur usual islamophobic tripe (even though you have already done it), id just like you to know, the ahmaddiya muslim community is indeed the most peaceful community of muslims and probably of an other religious group living worldwide; for over a hundred years we have advocated peaceful jihad and stood up again the misinterpretation of shariah which advocates oppressing women and carrying out violence against muslims and non muslims (waaay before the west decided to do anything about human rights although you had the power to do so, more power than a small persecuted sect like us did, so get off your high horse hypocritical oaf), and if the community had actually known he was inclined to any sort of extremism, they would have turned him over to the police. as a member of this community i know this. He is the first person who has any ties to the ahamdaiyya community who has ever carried out such a thing, whats more, he already opposed most of our views; if he carried our view he wouldn’t do such a thing. The ahmadis themselves welcome our mosques being investigated because the government knows we are peaceful and opposes all forms of violence. we are probably the only muslim community with no ties to terrorism so do your research, a big reason being we are the first targets of terrorists; as a result you won’t find many ahmadis in ‘islamic countries’ today; we are persecuted and thrown out. hardly any in the arab countries. maybe one or two secret ahmadi muslims. its unbelievable because no ahmadi has ever done such a thing, and if you yourself go and listen to the national friday sermons by the ahmaddiya imam broadcast on our tv channel, this violence is always strongly condemned anti-islamic, and also read even one book out of our vast library of literature and you will see we were condemning violent jihad before it even affected the west negatively (in the 1800s). so shut your stupid trap, excuse my rudeness, and do some research.
Gleaner1 says
“Hana” your sect is like ALL the rest, I watched some rag head kiddy fiddler from YOUR sect say “Muslims must not be offended or insulted”, well tough poo sister, you’re going to get it HOT and STRONG,
we KNOW, YOU’RE busted – get OUT.
gravenimage says
Hana wrote:
before you spout ur (sic) usual islamophobic tripe (even though you have already done it),
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Oh, what a terrible “Islamophobe” I am for not wanting to blown up by this pious Muslim! sarc/off
More:
…id (sic) just like you to know, the ahmaddiya muslim community is indeed the most peaceful community of muslims…
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Really, that’s not saying much. And what Hana won’t tell anyone here is that while the Ahmadi *do* eschew violent Jihad, they still want to impose the horror of Shari’ah law on Muslims and Infidels alike.
The other thing she won’t tell you is for their rejection of violent Jihad and a few other matters, that mainstream Mohammdans don’t consider the Ahmaddiya to be Muslims at all.
They are being imprisoned for posing as Muslim and reading the Qur’an in Pakistan, and are being slaughtered outright in places like Indonesia.
More:
…for over a hundred years we have advocated peaceful jihad and stood up again the misinterpretation of shariah which advocates oppressing women and carrying out violence against muslims and non muslims (waaay before the west decided to do anything about human rights although you had the power to do so, more power than a small persecuted sect like us did, so get off your high horse hypocritical oaf…
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What crap. The West ended slavery before this period, while your coreligionists practice it to this day. We also instituted constitutional republics—I don’t recall the Ahmadi advocating any such thing.
And the idea that the Ahmadi have some sort of interpretation of barbaric Shari’ah law that respects human rights is utterly false.
More:
…and if the community had actually known he was inclined to any sort of extremism, they would have turned him over to the police. as a member of this community i know this. He is the first person who has any ties to the ahamdaiyya community who has ever carried out such a thing…
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Is that so? We’ll just have to take your word for that. Really, what could go wrong? sarc/off
More:
…we are probably the only muslim community with no ties to terrorism so do your research, a big reason being we are the first targets of terrorists; as a result you won’t find many ahmadis in ‘islamic countries’ today; we are persecuted and thrown out. hardly any in the arab countries…
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Maybe that should tell you something right there. The only place that the Ahmadi are *not* persecuted and threatened is in among the filthy Kuffar in Dar-al-Harb.
And yet Ahmadi like Hana and Harris Zafar wanto to see the spread of Islam—even if it quite literally kills them.
More:
…if you yourself go and listen to the national friday sermons by the ahmaddiya imam broadcast on our tv channel, this violence is always strongly condemned anti-islami…
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And yet, there are an estimated ten million Ahmadis worldwide, while there are *over a billion* orthodox Muslims who consider waging violent Jihad to be perfectly Islamic.
More:
…and also read even one book out of our vast library of literature and you will see we were condemning violent jihad before it even affected the west negatively (in the 1800s).
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My God, what crap. Your small heretical didn’t even exist when Mohammedan hordes overran the Iberian peninsula, slaughtered priests, women, and children who took shelter in Hagia Sofia, tried to storm the gates of Vienna, instituted the hideous Jannisary system in the Balkans, and pirated American ships and enslaved their crews.
Muslims have been attacking the West since the late 7th century.
More:
…so shut your stupid trap, excuse my rudeness, and do some research…
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I’m afraid your problem is that most people at Jihad Watch have done a great deal of research into Islam…
As for “shutting my trap”, this is what every Muslim resorts to sooner or later: an aggressive attempt to shut down any criticism of Islam.
More, replying to Gleaner1:
and you know nothing about islam, because if in your tiny skull the actions of an extremist minority equals islam being violent originally…
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Grimly laughable. Anyone reading the Qur’an, Hadith, and Sira can see that Islam was horrifically violent from the days of the “Prophet”.
And the body count for Islam runs to an estimated *270 million* over the years, and rising every day.
More, replying to Fair Dinkum:
go research the ahmaddiya muslim community and their peaceful co existence in the west for 100 years before you utter such fallacious rubbish.
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Even were this true—which it manifestly *is not*—how would this make vulnerable Infidels any less threatened by the hordes of orthodox Islam?
If you had any sense at all, you would see that you are as threatened by Islam as are the Kuffar.
But every Muslim—including the Ahmiddiya—Islam trumps all, and its spread if considered paramount—even if it kills them all. *Ugh*.
JessieJames says
Hi Graven, do you remember “Realazi”, I think that’s how she spelled her avatar. This one sounds very familiar.
hana says
and you know nothing about islam, because if in your tiny skull the actions of an extremist minority equals islam being violent originally, then the vast human rights abuses, mass murder and genocide by non muslim western governments, which far exceeds all the terrorism and violence of extremist muslims combined, must equal democracy and a state found on judeo-christian values as barbaric, cruel, violent and inhumane. You can’t win, since the premise of your argument has no ground.
fair_dinkum says
what garbage.
“His uncle, Mohammad Jamil, 65, said Majeed had never shown any sign of extremism. He said: “If the family knew about this, we wouldn’t have let him go.””
pull the other one. it plays ‘jingle bells’
and what humanitarian aid? i cant see that any would be getting through to the victims anyway.
.. he’s dead now. lets hit the streets and hand out the candy.
hana says
go research the ahmaddiya muslim community and their peaceful co existence in the west for 100 years before you utter such fallacious rubbish.
abc says
According to the local Ahmadis he would turn up to demonstrate against their events, complaining that they were too liberal.
Classic jihadi in the making.
London Jim says
According to today’s London Evening Standard, the bomber was a student of Omar Bakri.
Gleaner1 says
This evenings news from Brighton, the most PC town on the south coast 25 miles from Crawley speaks of an ” explosive device” or materials found inside an Army recruitment centre, delivered by post today, more evidence of the existence of ” peaceful ” muslims in UK ?
Earlier today, the editors of the two local papers for that area Crawley and East Grinstead opened E-Mails from me regarding the jihadist from Langley Green and the issue of making young English children tour the Broadfield mosque to get to ” know ” Islam, this latest incident rather reinforces my message I think.