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Former Pakistani PM to Taliban: Whaddeya mean you want Sharia? We already have Sharia

Feb 10, 2014 10:42 pm By Robert Spencer

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It is clear that Gilani is right: the Taliban is out of touch to demand Sharia in a state that already oppresses women, terrorizes non-Muslims with blasphemy charges, and gives active aid to Islamic jihadists. An update on this story. “Sharia already enforced: Gilani,” from The Nation (Pakistan), February 10:

lahore [sic] – Responding to TTP’s demand regarding enforcement of Sharia in the country, former Prime Minister Syed Yousuf Raza Gilani on Sunday said it was already part and parcel of Pakistan’s legal system.

“Country’s Constitution has been drafted keeping in view the Sharia”, he told the media, adding, that no law repugnant to the teaching of Islam could be made as per the Constitution. The former Premier was talking to reporters at his Lahore residence alongwith Chief Minister of Gilgit Baltistan Syed Mehdi Shah. Gilani, however, declined to offer any further comment on Government-TTP talks, stating he did not want to sabotage the peace process by giving any opinion on it.

The PPP, he said, had extended its unconditional support to the govt to overcome the menace of terrorism.

“If the government sought our advice on the issue, the PPP leadership would respond positively”, he said while replying to a question.

Gilani further said that if the Taliban sought release of their prisoners, the govt should take up the issue of his son’s release currently in their custody.

Answering a question about NAB cases against him, Gilani said he was already facing them in court.

Speaking on the occasion, Mehdi Shah complained that Federal government was not giving due rights to the people in Gilgit-Baltistan[.]

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  1. Salah says

    Feb 10, 2014 at 11:58 pm

    “Whaddeya mean you want Sharia?”

    We mean you don’t have ENOUGH Sharia.
    Not enough stoning, not enough amputations, not enough misery. We need to see blood, more blood. We are the children of Darkness.

    http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2010/05/islamic-amputations.html

    • Lookmann says

      Feb 11, 2014 at 9:27 am

      Nicely put, Salah. as always.

  2. Shane Von Russell says

    Feb 11, 2014 at 12:30 am

    Activate super duper sharia!!!

  3. Veracious_one says

    Feb 11, 2014 at 1:27 am

    Whenever and wherever we see Sharia implemented, it looks essentially the same.

  4. Paleologos says

    Feb 11, 2014 at 3:23 am

    ***** OT *****

    This is chilling; pulled from Drudge.

    Would any non-muslim POTUS put up with this shit?

    R/

    Paleologos

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/02/10/iran-warships-threat-to-usa-coast/5365335/

  5. Jimbo says

    Feb 11, 2014 at 3:28 am

    He doesn’t look at all like Hitler, so stop saying that!

  6. Saleem Smith says

    Feb 11, 2014 at 3:36 am

    We ex-Muslims living with Islam’s formal and informal death penalty for apostasy know that Islam is a complete hoax.

    Even with the Taliban knocking at the door, Pakistani Muslims still cannot admit to themselves or others that the Sharia is an ethical and legal disaster.

    To admit that there is something seriously wrong with the Sharia is to admit that there is something seriously wrong with Islam and Muhammad. And this is something that no Muslim individual or Islamic nation can afford to do.

    After all, Shariah law is essentially Islam applied, or applied Islam.

    Islamic Law, The Shariah:

    Islamic Laws are made up of Sharia and Islamic jurisprudence (fiqh). Shariah is seen as sacred and constitutes the Qur’an and Muhammad’s Sunnah (way), which is found in the Hadith and Sira. Islamic jurisprudence is a complimentary expansion of the former by Islamic jurists.

    Shariah not only governs public life, but also many facets of ones personal life. It has laws covering Muslim interactions with non-Muslims, sexuality, food, rituals, leisure activities, dress, hygiene etc. This is due to Muhammad’s pivotal role in both the practice of Islam and the formation of Islamic law. He is considered by all Muslims, in Islamic theology, as the uswa hasana (perfect example). As both are based on the same source, they are inseparable from one another.

    Separation of ‘Church’ and State:

    It is a generally accepted fact among Muslims, that there is no concept of “separation of ‘Church’ and State” in the Islam faith. We have already touched upon why Shariah is inseparable from the public and the personal aspects of practising Islam, so once again, we need to look to the example set forth by Muhammad. Islam, unlike many other faiths, was a theocracy from its very beginning. As the founder and Head of the first Islamic state, Muhammad most certainly did not believe in the concept of rendering unto Caesar what is Caesar’s, and this is reflected in Muslim thought. The results of a survey released in November of 2009 found a massive 67 percent of Turks said ‘they would continue acting in accordance with their religious beliefs if the Parliament passed a law that contradicted religious laws.’ and only ‘Twenty-six percent said they would obey the country’s law in this case’. As is evident; even in ‘moderate’ ‘secular’ nations like Turkey, we find that the majority of its population (in accordance with Sahih Bukhari 9:89:258) refuse to accept the authority of its government when they deem its man-made laws contrary to that which is prescribed in the Shari’ah.

    Hadith, Sahih Bukhari, Vol.9, Bk.89, No.258:

    Narrated ‘Abdullah:
    The Prophet said, “A Muslim has to listen to and obey (the order of his ruler) whether he likes it or not, as long as his orders involve not one in disobedience (to Allah), but if an act of disobedience (to Allah) is imposed one should not listen to it or obey it.

    Islamic Laws: Criminalized Personal Matters:

    1 Adultery
    2 Intoxicants and Recreational Games
    3 Apostasy (rejection of Islam)
    4 Free Speech/Blasphemy
    5 Fornication between two consenting adults
    6 Homosexuality
    7 Lack of hijab/un-Islamic dress
    8 Mingling of un-related men and women
    9 Pornography and Prostitution
    10 Music and Art

    Islamic Laws: Legalized Crimes:

    1 Domestic violence against women
    2 Gender disparity
    3 Lying
    4 Polygamy
    5 Pedophilia
    6 Rape
    7 Religious discrimination
    8 Slavery
    9 Terrorism
    10 Assassination and Murder

    More at:
    http://www.wikiislam.net/wiki/Islamic_Law

    • mortimer says

      Feb 11, 2014 at 6:46 am

      Saleem, Thanks for the excellent list. We need to continue exposing this hoax. There is much work to do.

      While most Muslims SAY they want Sharia…it is interesting that a slight worldwide majority of Muslims do not approve death for apostates…does this mean that a majority of Muslims have serious doubts about Islam? I believe that is the case.

      • voegelinian says

        Feb 11, 2014 at 1:06 pm

        mortimer,

        “it is interesting that a slight worldwide majority of Muslims do not approve death for apostates…”

        Do you have prove of your sweeping claim about over 600 million Muslims in over 50 countries of the world?

        In fact, the surveys we have seen indicate otherwise:

        83% of Pakistanis support stoning adulterers
        78% of Pakistanis support killing apostates
        http://www.realcourage.org/2009/08/pakistan-78-percent-call-for-apostate-deaths/

        World Public Opinion: 81% of Egyptians want strict Sharia imposed in every Islamic country
        76% of Pakistanis want strict Sharia imposed in every Islamic country
        49% (plurality) of Indonesians want strict Sharia imposed in every Islamic country
        76% of Moroccans want strict Sharia imposed in every Islamic country
        http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf

        World Public Opinion: 64% of Egyptians said it was “very important for the government” to “apply traditional punishments for crimes such as stoning adulterers.”
        http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf

        Pew Research (2010): 77% of Egyptian Muslims favor floggings and amputation
        58% of Jordanian Muslims favor floggings and amputation
        82% of Pakistanis favor floggings and amputation
        65% of Nigerian Muslims favor floggings and amputation
        http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/

        Pew Research (2010): 82% of Egyptian Muslims favor stoning adulterers
        70% of Jordanian Muslims favor stoning adulterers
        82% of Pakistanis favor stoning adulterers
        56% of Nigerian Muslims favor stoning adulterers
        http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/

        Pew Research (2013): 81% of South Asian Muslims and 57% of Egyptians suport amputating limbs for theft.
        http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFiles/Topics/Religious_Affiliation/Muslim/worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-full-report.pdf

        Pew Research (2013): 81% of South Asian Muslims and 57% of Egyptians suport amputating limbs for theft.
        http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFiles/Topics/Religious_Affiliation/Muslim/worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-full-report.pdf

        mortimer is an odd Jihad Watcher: 90% of his comments over the years strongly imply that all Muslims are the problem; then occasionallly he blurts out asymptotic (if not outright PC MC) nonsense like this.

  7. David says

    Feb 11, 2014 at 4:17 am

    http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/latest/21404815/police-are-hoping-to-charge-more-people-over-the-marriage-of-a-12-year-old-nsw-girl/

    Further to the Muslim marrying the 12 year old girl in Australia, police have charged the Imam & are looking for more arrests. I like the response from the authorities. The mosque is claiming no knowledge of it of course.

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Feb 11, 2014 at 5:04 pm

      I’m very pleased that the police are going after the parents and the imam. And I hope they refuse to be ‘snowed’ by the mosque, and insist on seeing whatever records it has.

      Maybe they will find *other* little girls who have been similiarly “married”; and arrest *other* child-raping ‘husbands’ and child-pimping parents.

      Personally, I’d deport back to the dar al Islam, sans citizenship or residency, every adult mohammedan mobster that can be shown to have been involved in this sort of thing; as for the girls, counselling and cult deprogramming, and at 18, or 21, give them the choice: ditch Islam and stay in Australia, or keep Islam and leave.

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Feb 12, 2014 at 6:33 am

      re that ‘marriage’ – it also turns out that her pimping father is a *convert* to Islam.

      And incidentally – the imam who presided over the sale (er ‘marriage’) is **from Pakistan**. Surprise, surprise. Luckily he doesn’t have either Aussie citizenship or permanent residency, so once he’s done time or paid a fine, we can shove him on a plane with a one way ticket, no problem.

      I was googling round to see what the latest was on that story, and among other things I saw that the Aussie authorities’ *arrest* of the imam has been reported as far away as Lebanon.

  8. Heather says

    Feb 11, 2014 at 4:33 am

    Robert, This article brought down MORE walls of disbelief that I’ve inherited from a socially cohesive “peace loving” community in a democratic country. Thank goodness I’m waking up because I shall be one more to oppose pro-Islamic/pro-Sharia change in my country & damned if UN don’t like it either! Keep up the good work. Thank you

  9. joeb says

    Feb 11, 2014 at 6:48 am

    Just like socialists in the west, who keep trying over and over again to implement policies that have failed wherever they’ve been tried in the world, the attitude is “They weren’t doing it right. WE’LL do it properly”.

    Yet another thing leftists and Islamic supremacists have in common.

  10. mortimer says

    Feb 11, 2014 at 6:51 am

    I call this attitude (of the Taliban) “MORE-MUSLIM-THAN-THOU”.

    The more Islamic of the two attitudes wins, giving them the right to annihilate the ‘hypocrites’ who only give lip service to Islam without going ‘all the way’.

    I guess the Taliban would be satisfied with DAILY EXECUTIONS and FLOGGINGS in the public squares in all Pakistan cities and towns.

  11. Anushirvan says

    Feb 11, 2014 at 7:30 am

    This guy doesn’t seem to understand that the Tehreek e Taliban is not going to let things rest until he stops dressing like a suit-and-tie Muslim with a designer watch on his wrist. Posing as a Muslim will not be sufficient to ward off the dangers. If you want to be a Muslim, you’d better dress like one, too ! He can’t really grasp the Tehreek’s concept of puritanical fanaticism, it seems. (curiously enough, I can)

    Stupid git ! He’d better comply with this logic while he still has the chance. Before these nice gentlemen blow him to smithereens for being a heretic.

    Muhahaha…. !

    🙂

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