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Muslim cleric who called on Muslims to “sever limbs for the sake of Allah” calls Valentine’s Day “immoral”

Feb 14, 2014 10:55 am By Robert Spencer

Muhammad al-Arifi has said: “Devotion to jihad for the sake of Allah, and the desire to shed blood, to smash skulls, and to sever limbs for the sake of Allah and in defense of His religion, is, undoubtedly, an honor for the believer. Allah said that if a man fights the infidels, the infidels will be unable to prepare to fight.” So? He has his priorities and you have yours, kaffir! Who are you to judge? After all, last year, the British government let al-Arifi into the country while banning Pamela Geller and me — so clearly, wanting to smash Infidel skulls and hating Valentine’s Day is just fine in Britain today, but working for the freedom of speech and equality of rights of all people before the law is not. They want to guard against spreading hate, doncha know!

“Valentine’s Day is ‘immoral,’ says Saudi cleric,” from Al Arabiya, February 14:

Are you defying your faith by celebrating Valentines’ Day?

According to controversial Saudi cleric Sheikh Mohammad al-Arifi, embracing the romantic occasion makes Muslims “resemble those who are immoral.”

The cleric, who last year called on Muslim youth to join the jihad (holy war) in Syria, while spending his holidays in European countries, added that “TV channels and other media outlets shouldn’t be promoting Valentine’s Day in any way,” Arifi wrote on his Twitter account on Wednesday.

Arifi is infamous for a number of outrageous views and fatwas, this includes advising young girls not to wear revealing clothes in the presence of their fathers to avoid seduction and calling for a boycott of Al Arabiya’s sister kids channel, MBC 3, after claiming that cartoons corrupt children.

Valentine‘s Day has long been a contentious issue to many conservatives in the kingdom.

In previous years, the country’s religious police or the Committee for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice religious police – known locally as the “Hay’aah” – have raided floral shops selling red flowers on the occasion.

Will this year be any different?

Religious police chief Abdullatif al-Sheikh denied that the Religious Police had ordered the closure of shops – although he did not specifically mention floral shops – on Valentine’s Day.

“This is not our specialty… we are against what violates the Quran and the teachings of the Prophet,” Sheikh said in an interview to a Saudi newspaper al-Jazirah on Wednesday.

Internet search giant Google, which displayed a pumping heart for international viewers for its “Google doodle,” kept its Saudi-based homepage without any decoration, signaling the kingdom’s desire to shun the occasion….

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  1. Libra55 says

    Feb 14, 2014 at 11:10 am

    These people are so absurd, nothing beats them. And we are to ” respect” this savage cult ? Why, we never did centuries ago and now in modern enlightened times they have something to ” contribute “to us ? What exactly?
    I must be missing something. Well according to the leftists I am !

    • mortimer says

      Feb 14, 2014 at 5:02 pm

      ABSURD! Islam is absurd and anti-woman…from breast-feeding grown men, to FGM, to sex permitted with a ‘recent’ corpse, to honor-killing and murder of apostates.

      Islam is based on a mentality of enslavement incompatible with democratic modernity.

      • The Infinitaurian says

        Feb 17, 2014 at 3:06 am

        Allow me to quietly note that ‘Islam’ -so TOTALLY ‘submitted’ to EVILS SO many TOO many!- was once a filler up of what Jesus FAILED to do. We will not say more here on this however, except to note that PAUL OPENLY SAID that HE WAS making up for what Jesus LACKED!
        ‘Islam’ DIED by 1260 when Tamerlane & Co. roared into town and simply DESTROYED it. Like Paulianity, Islam DIED in the middle ages -yes, the DARK Ages. Which began by 400 BJ in Greece -as no less than Bertrand Russell keenly noted.
        So when Islam -now only $O CALLED wandered WAY off course and got into Mogul India, the now FALLEN religion of the desertburnt Arabs…, went fully M-A-D. How -and WHY- did this HAVE to happen??
        Answaur:- ‘Islam’ sucked up vilest HINDUISM-BUDDHISM!!
        No, you $ure WON’T read THIS fact of Islam-went-MAD in your
        $TUPID ‘histories’ of either ‘Islam’ or India. But that I-S what REALLY happened!
        One of the null results of this collision-and-COLLAP$E between ‘islam’ and Hindubuddhism’s ‘black hole’ -‘black’ BOTH humanly AND religiously!!- was the export of ‘zero’ ‘is a number too, you know’ into THE NO LONGER CHRISTIAN WEST. Since THAT NULL EVENT…, Western ‘mathematics’ has H-A-D
        to become “trying to divide down and DOWN until we get ZERO” -as recently our MADmaticians ‘think’ they have finally done…..
        Yes folks, MADematics and its CRAZIEST $pawn ‘statistics’ AND ‘economics’ $O FAL$ELY $O MI$CALLED, are merely inevitable ‘to ZERO go!’ maddenings down of WESTERN as well as Islamic numbers thinkings. Yes, utter MISthinkings!!
        In pages 110 and 111 of his “Out of My Later Years” Old Albert pointedly SAYS that ‘mathematics’ is ONLY OUR HUMAN LANGUAGE -which is a CONVENIENCE IF AND ONLY AS WE who use it with each other ARE H-O-N-E-$-T -Yes, CANDID!!
        ‘Zero’ -like ‘Nothing at all’ AND Hindubuddhist ‘Nothingness’!!- TOTALLY PRESUBVERTED FROM ABOUT 1000 AJ A-L-L of Western ‘math’ -since then we H-A-V-E gone from Mathemuddleness to MADMATICS -as no less than Dr. Morris Kline, professor Emeritus, wrote as his capsheaf book in 1980!
        His title alone TELLS IT ALL:- “Mathematics: The LOSS Of Certainty”….! And in its over 300 page of sadly careful documentation like no other, DR MORRIS KLINE brings out what I have SAID HERE about MADematics-on-our TAXE$ in our $o called ‘great’ ‘universities’ since the year 1000, in excruciating detail. ‘Numbers’ now really ARE NUMB-ers of human brains -especially of our so called ‘best and brightest’ brains….!
        Mathematics today -and Big Physics too!- AUR VAST DELUSION GAMING$ ON OUR TAXE$…..!! And now that people are UTTERLY DI$hone$t ON PURPO$E$ -with mad math men LEADING THE WAY$ D-O-W-N, we have reached such a NADIR that open CONSCIOUS LIARS FOR HIRE$ ARE LYING SO THICK AND FAST THAT SINCE THE 1920s BIG SCIENCE HAS BEEN ONLY A GIGANTIC $-C-A-M $UPPORTED BY CHUMP-CITIZENS T-A-X-E-$-$-$ NO END!!!
        MAD ‘islam’ is only the OTHER ARM of this HINDU vengeance on the West -can ANY of you out there $-E-E this at all?? (Let alone S-E-E I-N-T-O this vast centuries long double maddening down operation that H-A-$ gone on and O-N AND I$ $TILL ONGOING AS WE NOW C-R-A-M THIS $HITMATH CRAP DOWN OUR LITTLE KIDS BY FEDERAL ORDERS…..‚
        Folks, NOwhere and NO HOW does or C-A-N a single ‘number’ actually PHYSICALLY EXIST IN ‘ALL’ OF UN-ALL’ABLE INFINITY! ONLY actual THINGS exist -or can. OUR human conveniences of utterance and imaginings ONLY ‘exist’ among US -IF we are HONE$T with them and WITH EACH OTHER. There is no one ‘number’ or ‘equation’ or ‘math process’ in A-L-L of utterly limitsless cubic space SO INFINITELY INFINITE in extents…..
        Let THAT fact of very Being Itself be long and truly pondered and lets CAST OUT WHOLLY our mathemadics and MATHMADDENED taxe$ wasting ‘mathematicians’ ONE AND ALL!!!
        Lets get back to NATURE -as Dr. Morris Kline PLEADS for!- and R-E-A-L-I-S-E that NATURE is absolutely and O-N-L-Y pure voidsless VOLUMIC GEOMETRY ITSELF -BODILY! All our muddlematics and MADmatics and now schoolcram matics too,
        is merely the fag end final come down outworkings of adopting that vile idea that ‘zero is a number too’ -from VILEST India a thousand winters back….
        Now.., and from now ON.., some of you C-A-N begin again where poor Euclid left off -yes failed…. Because he too had bought into that awful Hindubuddish ‘Nothingness’ teaching as pertains to Geometry. His SEVEN VERY FIRST MISTAKES are right there in his very FIRST seven “definitions”!!!!!!!
        (Check that out ‘rocket science’ boys! -Euclid’s ONLY mistakes ARE those VERY FIRST SEVEN “definitions” that are not only linguistically SENSELESS but PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO EXIST ON LAND OR SEA. Check ’em out folks, Euclid’s very first “definitions” in his very First Book of his 13 books encapsules the WHOLE DELUSION SYSTEM OF HINDUBUDDHIST ‘thought’ -already sucked up into the West during the 300s BJ, by even dear old Eucky-boy “hissef”…..!

        • gravenimage says

          Feb 17, 2014 at 1:29 pm

          What idiocy. Islam has been a horrific creed from its very beginnings. The idea that the problems of aggressive Islam have to do with Hinduism is utter malarky.

        • Joel says

          Feb 17, 2014 at 2:12 pm

          HUH???? I read this, and became confused–what the hell are you trying to say?

          Other–which it looks like–I got a headache reading your diatribe –that Islam isn’t at fault for being evil, or isn’t evil or something.

          Try–in my view-writing in clear English.

        • Fredaurick Alyone Ashaur says

          Feb 23, 2014 at 3:20 pm

          Greetings ‘graven image’-
          I did take in a bit much for most folks. So, let put it short -and sour.
          Islam -“submit!”- DID exactly THAT -in vile, MOGUL era India. The historic FALL of MEN (not women -or ‘Eve’- at all, please note!), occurred in VILEST Hindustan, some 6 centuries BJ.
          It came about due to atomic fallout from TWO ATOMIC WEAPONS USING WARS THAT AUR RECORDED IN CHILDISH NAIVE HONESTY IN THE MAHABARATTA.
          The centuries from those wars let waters and winds CARRY this fallout producing madness amongst MEN in vile Hindustan until by the time of Lao Tze and Gautama Shakyimani the BRAINS of MEN ESPECIALLY were vitally COMPROMISED just like those rats in the ’40s shot up repeatedly at Wallops Island Virginia. The more they got into space (some 60 plus miles up) the DUMBER they got! Finally by means of the new Electron Microscope we found WHAT was dumbing them DOWN:- cosmic ray scar lines SO FINE they were invisible to ordinary microscopes. THIS IS WHAT FELL ANCIENT INDIA FIRST AND WORST ON EARTH IN THE CENTURIES AFTER THOSE T-W-O REALLY DIRTY-CARELESS ATOMIC WARS THAT A-R-E RECORDED IN CHILDISH SIMPLICITY IN THE MAHABARRATA (that contains ‘the Gita’ too….)
          The coming of The ENDARKENED One, namely Gautama Shakyimani, marks off the true Beginning of the DARK ages that as Bertrand Russell noted deftly, hit Greece too by the 400s BJ.
          Poor Eucky at least knew enough to be BRIEF. For he too had fallen HINDUSICK:- his very First SEVEN Definitions are ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE THUS AUR GEOMETRIC NONSENSE BY CLINICAL AS WELL AS LOGICAL DEFINITIONS ACCEPTED BY ANY WHO ARE NOT MORONS. (Just try to IMAGINE even -let alone DRAW them!- any of those First Seven ‘daffynitions’ of Euclid -and S-E-E-!)
          By the time of rotten to hell Mogul India, even TOUCHING so fallen further Hindubuddha-land and ‘thought’ was SO INFECTING that IMMEDIATELY Islam went fully M-A-D -and by the hand of Tamerlane and Ghenghis, it was WIPED OUT. (The
          later faked up Turkish gibberish and Quran muddlings are as loosely connected to Muhammid as Innocent 3rd was to Jesus:- ABSOLUTELY NONE AT ALL -OR DELIBERATELY AGAINST!)
          When Jewish merchants and others all too naively and too greedy eagerly SUCKED UP the Arab carried CONTAGION of ‘zero’ -the explicit mathemaddening down further of Buddhist ‘nothingness at all’ -now do you dawn a bit?- WESTERN MATH WAS DOOMED THEREFROM, THEREBY AND THEREFORE.
          Today, as Dr. Kline notes so finally sadly, ‘math’ is SO wildly WRONG and ‘arcane’ -AND MENTALLY DI$HONE$T FROM A TO Z!- that not even 3 people CAN TALK anymore in some of it!
          Our mess today is NOT political nor even religious IT IS IN AND FROM OUT MATH AND PHYSICS PEOPLE AND THEIR ALL UNWITTINGLY SUCKED UP HINDUBUDDHIST SHITIDEAS AND PUSEQUATIONS AND LYINGNUMB’rs OF CHILDRENS MINDS!!!
          T-H-A-T Fact…, is WHAT is going to be HELL to realise but IT WILL BE R-E-A-L-I-$-E-D -and in $pade$ because it ALL HA$ BEEN ON OUR TAXE$ $INCE THE 1920’S…..!
          ‘Nothing-at-all’ and ‘zero-is-a-number-too’ AUR the Worship & Idolatryie$ of THE ONLY ABSOLUTE FOREVER IMPOSSIBLE TO BE OR TO MAKE HOWSOEVER HIGH THE TECHNOLOGY ATTEMPTING TO MAKE WHAT IS TAUTOLOGICALLY IMPOSSIBLE BY DEFINITION.
          As Spengler so well said, PHYSICS WAS OVER IN 1919. It was:- the conspiracy to make out that Einstein was right about the Sun ‘bending’ light -led by Sir Arthur Eddington- is now in the trashbin -BUT FEW AS YET HAVE EVEN HEARD THAT BIT OF NEWS….. So, ‘Graven Image’ you NOW HAVE some REAL chewing to do -for your FIRST TIME EVER…..!

  2. JessieJames says

    Feb 14, 2014 at 11:29 am

    All these articules on anti-Valentines Day scream a total lack of love and compassion, sound familiar? God is love…..Satan is the exact opposite!

    • Champ says

      Feb 14, 2014 at 3:18 pm

      off topic …………. you’re welcome, JessieJames! 😉

    • Champ says

      Feb 14, 2014 at 3:24 pm

      “All these articules on anti-Valentines Day scream a total lack of love and compassion, sound familiar? God is love…..Satan is the exact opposite!”

      True, JessieJames …just more rotten fruit from the tree of evil: islam!

      “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Therefore by their fruits you will know them.” — Matthew 7:15-20

      Hey and Happy Valentine’s Day, dear Bro! 🙂

      • JessieJames says

        Feb 15, 2014 at 12:38 am

        When I first set out here on JW, I thought this would be a good place to meet new people and make friends, exchange ideas, share intellect on a common subject and socialize. I’m beginning to feel a little different about it now. It seems as if you have a difference of opinion with someone certain people are quick to “attack” and/or “insult” rather than debate. I’m not saying that all are like that. I’ve had some differences of opinion with LemonLime before (I have not noticed him posting here much recently), however, we shared ideas in a mature manner and moved on. I appreciate LL’s contribution here and I have learned a great deal from him. To oppose a foe like Realiza (I think that’s how she spelled her user name here last year) was even fun to an extent. However, I grow weary of constant badgering to iterate and reiterate myself on a subject which I made myself perfectly clear. I’m a little surprised at Graveimage, even a little hurt that she would side with RS when after all the discussions we have had in the past, I thought she knew me better than that. I guess not. At least I know I’ve had at least one friend here at JW. It’s been a pleasure to meet you and get to know you Champ through JW. I also believe in the cause of JW and I wholly support it. The information Robert provides helps to identify the enemy and be better prepared to recognize and organize responses in venues of government, political, and social networks. All that being said, after a lot of forethought, I think I’m going to check out of JW. I’m sure that will give RS a smile. Again I consider you a good friend, take care and a Happy Valentine’s Day to you as well! JJ

        • PJG says

          Feb 15, 2014 at 4:02 am

          Do what you like, but really…do you have to be such a wuss? You want total, 100% consensus?
          Leave the hyper-sensitivity to those insufferable Muslims, and grow a thick skin. Think of those non-Muslims in the Middle East being shot, having their daughters stolen, being beheaded. Surely you can handle a bit of disagreement online? If you retire wounded, where will you go? Prepare for the shahada?
          I have had my disagreements with counter-jihadists too, but in the end, we have to swallow a bit of pride and look at the bigger picture. Are you prepared to see us lose because your pride was hurt, because someone criticized you? We are all feeling our way here…this is not what we would rather be doing. But the same went for my parents who fought Hitler; they would rather have been playing sport, but unfortunately sport had to wait., and they had to knuckle under and get on with the job.
          As I say, do what you want, but we need tough people around here. I personally have learned so much at this site that I am utterly grateful for it; it’s the best there is.

        • voegelinian says

          Feb 15, 2014 at 2:16 pm

          LemonLime here. I changed my nickname when I signed up for WordPress here. I could have kept my old nickname, but I decided it was a little too… citrussy. And besides, it was time for a change. To me, nicknames are like shirts: you don’t want to change your shirt every 15 minutes; but on the other hand, the same shirt does get old after a while…

          As for PJG’s response, I kind of agree that we need to have thick skins in this “battle space of the war of ideas”. However, that doesn’t mean that all fellow CJers should be immune from criticism — and more importantly, we need to develop some discernment to tell the difference between lesser important disagreements, and more important agreements — where the latter involve optimizing, rather than debilitating, our primary goals in this long-range anti-Islam effort we all have a stake in. So I agree that gravenimage should not have sided with Rod Serling in his OCD (and this isn’t the first time she has ignored his OCD — when a long time ago he obsessed about me with ridiculously long detailed hostile comments riddled with projection, and straw men mischaracterizations of my words and positions — not mention two other Jihad Watchers whose egregiously counter-productive behavior was screamingly deleterious and protracted).

        • gravenimage says

          Feb 15, 2014 at 5:28 pm

          Voegelinian wrote:

          I agree that gravenimage should not have sided with Rod Serling in his OCD
          ………………………….

          As I said to Jessie James, Voegelinian, I thought—and still think—that Rod Serling asked an important question. I believe, in fact, that I asked for a clarification from Jessie before RS even commented—although I would have to go back and check the thread for confirmation.

          You yourself—goodness knows!—have never shied away from spirited debate.

          In my reply to Jessie, I noted how much I have benefited from reading your comments over the years.

          I hope you also had a great Valentine’s Day.

        • gravenimage says

          Feb 15, 2014 at 5:42 pm

          (apologies ahead of time if this posts twice—having trouble with the new comments set-up)

          Voegelinian wrote:

          I agree that gravenimage should not have sided with Rod Serling in his OCD
          ………………………….

          As I said to Jessie James, Voegelinian, I thought—and still think—that Rod Serling asked an important question. I believe, in fact, that I asked for a clarification from Jessie before RS even commented—although I would have to go back and check the thread for confirmation.

          You yourself—goodness knows!—have never shied away from spirited debate.

          In my reply to Jessie, I noted how much I have benefited from reading your comments over the years.

          I hope you also had a great Valentine’s Day.

        • voegelinian says

          Feb 16, 2014 at 2:17 am

          A good illustration of the “OCD” behavior I refer to harks back to this older JW comments thread from 2010:

          http://glossaryhesperado.blogspot.com/2014/01/a-jw-comments-thread-concerning-breivik.html

          and a related one from the same year:

          http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/08/christopher-hitchens-discovers-that-the-ground-zero-mosque-imam-is-not-as-moderate-as-he-is-cracked#comment-702535

          The careful reader would have to slog through a lot of comments to piece together a fuller picture; but since most JW regulars even at the time didn’t seem to bother carefully reading, why should I expect them to do so now?

        • gravenimage says

          Feb 16, 2014 at 7:27 pm

          Voegelinian, I thought you’d like to know that at least one person here read back through those two long, long threads.

        • gravenimage says

          Feb 15, 2014 at 5:02 pm

          JessieJames wrote:

          When I first set out here on JW, I thought this would be a good place to meet new people and make friends, exchange ideas, share intellect on a common subject and socialize. I’m beginning to feel a little different about it now…
          ………………………………..

          Hi, Jessie James. I believe it still is. Counter Jihadists come from all over the world and from many different backgrounds. It is understandable that we would have differences of opinion on some issues. Overall, in fact, I find it heartening that we have so many shared values.

          More:

          I’ve had some differences of opinion with LemonLime before (I have not noticed him posting here much recently), , however, we shared ideas in a mature manner and moved on. I appreciate LL’s contribution here and I have learned a great deal from him.
          ………………………………..

          LemonLime is now posting under the name “Voegelian”. He has had several different usernames over the years here at JW.

          I’ve learned a great deal from him, as well. Even when we have sometimes disagreed on some matters I have always greatly respected his contributions here.

          More:

          To oppose a foe like Realiza (I think that’s how she spelled her user name here last year) was even fun to an extent.
          ………………………………..

          I believe you are thinking of Muslim troll Rezali Mehil.

          More:

          I’m a little surprised at Graveimage, even a little hurt that she would side with RS when after all the discussions we have had in the past, I thought she knew me better than that. I guess not.
          ………………………………..

          Jessie, I did not “side with” RS. I thought he asked an important question in that one instance. Clearly, it is one you did not want to answer, and you do not have to do so.

          In any case, though, allies in all the great movements in defense of freedom—the fight against slavery, against Fascism, and against hard-core Communism—have had differences of opinion. It need not break the movement—debate, in fact, can make it stronger.

          More:

          At least I know I’ve had at least one friend here at JW. It’s been a pleasure to meet you and get to know you Champ through JW.
          ………………………………..

          I agree—Champ is a treasure.

          Despite our occasional disagreements, I hope you would consider me a friend also—or at least an ally. I certainly regard you as one.

          More:

          I also believe in the cause of JW and I wholly support it. The information Robert provides helps to identify the enemy and be better prepared to recognize and organize responses in venues of government, political, and social networks.
          ………………………………..

          Hear, hear!

          More:

          All that being said, after a lot of forethought, I think I’m going to check out of JW. I’m sure that will give RS a smile. Again I consider you a good friend, take care and a Happy Valentine’s Day to you as well! JJ
          ………………………………..

          I hope you will reconsider, Jessie James. I believe this is one of the most important forums for Anti-Jihadists around.

          Moreover, you will find more genuine fellow-feeling and shared commitment to opposing the horrors of Islam here than almost anywhere else—even taking some of those inevitable disagreements into account.

          And I agree with PJG—it takes tough people to face down an evil as savage as Islam. This is not always something that comes naturally to all decent people—certainly not always to myself—having allies is very important.

          I hope you and yours had a wonderful Valentine’s Day as well! ♥

    • Salah says

      Feb 14, 2014 at 5:02 pm

      BTW, on another thread, I agreed with you 100% concerning Homosexuality.
      Here’s the link:

      http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/02/muslim-website-84-see-valentines-day-as-unacceptable-innovation-an-aspect-of-imitating-the-west/comment-page-1#comment-1010070

      • JessieJames says

        Feb 15, 2014 at 12:39 am

        Thanks Salah…….take care. JJ

      • JessieJames says

        Feb 15, 2014 at 12:43 am

        Thanks Salah…….take care.
        JJ

        • Salah says

          Feb 15, 2014 at 10:44 am

          I totally agree with Champ, we need people like you here on JW. Please, reconsider your decision and keep fighting.
          BTW, “LemonLime” is posting now under “voegelinian”, at least, that’s what he said, and I believe it’s true.

      • Defcon 4 says

        Feb 15, 2014 at 3:03 am

        Do muslimes have a lot of problems w/latency?

  3. Jay Boo says

    Feb 14, 2014 at 11:35 am

    If they are just so darn cheap that they don’t want to spend money for cards, flowers and candy in order to make their wives or girl friends feel special who could blame them for that.
    I have also been trying to figure out a way to get around that problem for years and would be grateful to anyone who can figure it out. It’s expensive!
    But to claim it is all for the sake of Allah is absurd. Even I know better than to use such an outlandish excuse.
    What cheapskates.

  4. boakai ngombu says

    Feb 14, 2014 at 11:39 am

    “… this includes advising young girls not to wear revealing clothes in the presence of their fathers to avoid seduction …. ”

    because it is a cultural thing some material could be added: … their fathers (and uncles on both sides, and brothers of all wives and sons of favored concubines, and most cousins, and don’t forget close friends and neighbors)

  5. JamesonRocks says

    Feb 14, 2014 at 11:55 am

    Perhaps I should buy a small box of heart-shaped chocolates, can of Spam, and a stuffed-toy puppy for my Muslim neighbors down the street.

    • Jay Boo says

      Feb 14, 2014 at 12:29 pm

      No need for hypothetical antagonism of neighbors.
      Most Muslims are victims of Muhammad’s contrived dogma.
      Reveal the truth about Islam’s obvious contradictions to the world and Muslims will eagerly unlock their own cages.

      • Defcon 4 says

        Feb 15, 2014 at 7:30 pm

        What a ridiculous proposition. Muslimes have had over a thousand years to reform their death cult, yet you think they’ll give it all up now, when they’re clearly winning. I contend that at no time in islam’s history has it experienced a greater spread or control over the world than today.

  6. Mohammad says

    Feb 14, 2014 at 12:20 pm

    The U.K is a lost cause doesn’t surprise me. The U.K will be a sharia state eventually just like most of Eurostan.

  7. Bradamante says

    Feb 14, 2014 at 12:55 pm

    Islamic arrogance never fails to amaze me. Many Orthodox Jews also decline to celebrate secular holidays named for Christian saints’ days (e.g. Valentine’s Day and Halloween), but they opt out quietly, without fanfare and without gratuitously attacking the holidays that others are enjoying. I’m frequently struck by the fact that there are certain similarities between traditional Judaism and Islam — possibly because Mohammed copied Judaism as best he could — but whereas Jews traditionally mind their own business, Islam always throws in a heaping dose of arrogance, hatred and lust for domination.

    • Jay Boo says

      Feb 14, 2014 at 2:02 pm

      Ref to:
      I’m frequently struck by the fact that there are certain similarities between traditional Judaism and Islam — possibly because Mohammed copied Judaism as best he could — but whereas Jews traditionally mind their own business, Islam always throws in a heaping dose of arrogance, hatred and lust for domination
      ———————
      Though there are some very crucial differences there are also (I suspect) certain similarities between traditional Roman Catholicism and Shia Islam. Iran has a supreme religious leader and some Muslims use black prayer beads. There are a number of other quirky similarities for example, the traditional clothing of priests robes and nuns hair coverings (black habit vs traditional black chador) and the concept of guilt and penance, even though it may not be exactly the same it seems to bear some resemblance.

      • ecosse1314 says

        Feb 14, 2014 at 4:38 pm

        I quite agree all the similarities are very superficial. As for the priestly robes I believe they were based on second century Roman clothing.

      • Wellington says

        Feb 14, 2014 at 6:47 pm

        I’m not religious in the least, Jay Boo, but perhaps you’ll join with me in wishing that every Muslim in the world would wake up a devout Roman Catholic tomorrow. What a far better (and safer) world it would be, no?

        Whatever problems exist with Roman Catholicism, they pale, deeply pale, when compared to Islam. Roman Catholics are not a threat at all to Western Civilization (indeed, they built much of it) and neither are they a threat to the American Constitution. Islam, by comparison, poses a mortal threat both to WC and AC.

        I know you know all this but, while differences exist among different Christian sects and, certainly, with non-religoius persons like myself, Islam is the enemy of us all. This too I know you know. Take good care, my Internet friend.

        • Jay Boo says

          Feb 15, 2014 at 2:42 pm

          In total agreement Wellington and I am glad you mentioned that there are very distinct differences because a casual reader might be tempted to skip by my lead in sentence and make too close of a similarity.
          I grew up Roman Catholic in New England and have many fond memories of the church and am thankful to have it as a positive guiding foundation. Nevertheless, the church scandals and the subsequent attempt at self-preservation of the institution over individuals have revealed a flaw that is common when politics meet religion. Ironically that same flaw may have made many Catholics more able to be on guard against Islam than they might have been otherwise.
          Speaking of Irony, Isn’t it so strange that Islam is very quick to label all other religions and even the lack of religion as blasphemy.
          It is almost as if they walking backward trying to cover their own tracks in advance before anyone notices.

    • Herb Benty says

      Feb 14, 2014 at 3:22 pm

      A Roman Catholic priest helped Mo formulate the Koran, it’s well known. Mo couldn’t read or write.

      • mortimer says

        Feb 14, 2014 at 9:48 pm

        Nothing is ‘well known’ about Mohammed. I recommend Robert Spencer’s excellent book ‘Did Muhammad Exist?: An Inquiry into Islam’s Obscure Origins’ for further information on the (non)historicity of Mohammed.

        Mohammed is ‘known’ to us in the same way as Robin Hood or King Arthur are known…through myths and legends .

        • AlreadyDead says

          Feb 15, 2014 at 1:55 pm

          “Myths and legends” that glorify violence, bloodshed, intolerance and mass murder.

    • Sencit says

      Feb 15, 2014 at 6:45 am

      Bradamante, Halloween is certainly not a ‘Christian Saint’s day’. It is a pagan festival known as ‘Hallowed Evening’, which is about as un-Christian as one can get! Otherwise,an excellent comment, – thanks!

      • gravenimage says

        Feb 15, 2014 at 5:17 pm

        Sencit wrote:

        Bradamante, Halloween is certainly not a ‘Christian Saint’s day’. It is a pagan festival known as ‘Hallowed Evening’, which is about as un-Christian as one can get! Otherwise,an excellent comment, – thanks!
        ………………………………….

        You and Bradamante are both right, Sencit.

        “Hallowe’en” is a shortened form of “All Hallows Eve”—the next day is the hallowed All Saint’s Day, followed by All Soul’s Day on November 2nd. These are Catholic holidays.

        But Hallowe’en is also the old pagan harvest Samhain—and modern Hallowe’en is largely a secular celebration. I know some devout Christians who celebrate it—in a tongue-in-cheek manner, of course—as well as some who eschew it entirely.

    • Salah says

      Feb 15, 2014 at 12:38 pm

      “I’m frequently struck by the fact that there are certain similarities between traditional Judaism and Islam — possibly because Mohammed copied Judaism as best he could — ”

      It’s called PLAGIARISM!!!

      http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2011/04/lords-prayer-of-muhammad.html

      http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2011/05/beatitudes-of-muhammad.html

  8. mariam rove says

    Feb 14, 2014 at 1:41 pm

    Be careful now. Bomb are going to be mailed out in the shape of a heart!!! M

  9. mariam rove says

    Feb 14, 2014 at 1:44 pm

    Also Valentine day is all about the color red. Why are they opposing it? Since blood is red and since they like to spill blood all day long shouldn’t they love this day? M

  10. Champ says

    Feb 14, 2014 at 3:06 pm

    Oh brother, an immoral man is right under his own nose! This unholy man of god–this muslim cleric clown–need only look in the mirror to spot an immoral man. Jeez whatta hypocrite to the MAX!

  11. flamingrightbcer says

    Feb 14, 2014 at 3:24 pm

    A Roman Catholic priest helped Mo formulate the Koran, Mo couldn’t read or write.

    • ecosse1314 says

      Feb 14, 2014 at 4:47 pm

      Like to give an unassailable link to that nonsense.

    • mariam rove says

      Feb 14, 2014 at 4:53 pm

      actually I think it was jew. M

  12. Fr Theodore says

    Feb 14, 2014 at 5:09 pm

    Well, of course they shouldn’t celebrate it! It is named for a Christian priest in Rome who died for Christ. If they want to remind their own people that it is inappropriate for them to celebrate the kind of love represented in dying for Jesus Christ, it sounds reasonable. Of course, the problem is that they can’t do it reasonably! The fatwa-publishing, “I’ll use anything to stir up hatred and spread fear” crowd just can’t pass up such a great opportunity.

    Far from celebrating immorality, however, the origins of the holiday celebrated faithfulness, pure love, and the hope of raising up a family. it isn’t poor St Valentine’s fault that it has devolved into something commercial and trite. The holy day’s link with the whole over-blown modern holiday is that St Valentine’s feast day was believed, in early Medieval Britain, to be when birds began choosing their mates. Hence, it became the time for betrothals to take place. St Valentine then stood as a symbol of fidelity, so the betrothed would call each other “Valentine.”
    (Information taken from the Breviary reading for Matins, Feb. 14th)

    • PG says

      Feb 15, 2014 at 4:29 am

      Thanks, Fr Theodore! I left a message along those lines (but not so well) at the Kashmir comment section.

  13. bobm says

    Feb 14, 2014 at 5:22 pm

    These dickheads wouldn’t know MORAL if it kicked them in the ass.

  14. gravenimage says

    Feb 14, 2014 at 6:21 pm

    Muslim cleric who called on Muslims to “sever limbs for the sake of Allah” calls Valentine’s Day “immoral”
    …………………………………….

    That’s islamic “morality” in a nutshell—Valentine’s day, whether it celebrates loving friendship between schoolchildren, love of children for their mothers, puppy love, or romantic love (including long-term married love) is “immoral”—but waging death and destruction if perfectly Islamic. *Ugh*.

    More:

    Arifi is infamous for a number of outrageous views and fatwas, this includes advising young girls not to wear revealing clothes in the presence of their fathers to avoid seduction…
    …………………………………….

    More Islamic “morality”—incest is the fault of the victim. Appalling—but not surprising.

    • Defcon 4 says

      Feb 15, 2014 at 7:34 pm

      The Locked Up documentary had an interview w/a US revert who murdered his girlfriend for committing adultery. Apparently, she was separated from her husband but dating him. He murdered her for committing adultery with him and felt no guilt whatsoever about doing it. Of course, he felt himself innocent in all this, because she didn’t tell him she was merely separated from her husband and not divorced.

  15. thomas_h says

    Feb 14, 2014 at 6:33 pm

    Islam. Still stupid after all these years…

    • Wellington says

      Feb 14, 2014 at 8:10 pm

      Oh yeah, thomas_h. You got that correct. Right on point comment, my friend across the pond.

      One of the most frequent thoughts I have about Islam is just how silly, how dumb, how transparent, how fraudlent it is. It’s not that I’m so insightful, not at all. Rather, it’s how so many members of our own species can be so gullible as to extend respect, or what’s worse actual belief, to this deeply flawed and bogus creed. Islam actually belongs with comedy and totalitarianism, not with what is serious and liberating.

      Islam cries out to be denounced by sensible folks. And yet is not, or not nearly enough. I await the day when it will be (this functions as partial evidence of the cautious optimist that I ultimately am).

      Hope you’re doing well, thomas_h. Back here in the northeastern US we have been buried this winter. So much for the man-made climate change nonsense, which, quite fittingly, Western elites, led by the Doofus-in-Chief, Barack Obama, have embraced without reservation, rather as they have accepted the stupid mantra that Islam is a religion of peace and tolerance and it’s just been hijacked by a few extremists. Ah , the worst kind of fools by far are those with too much education and too much power. So long for now, pal.

      • thomas_h says

        Feb 15, 2014 at 1:44 pm

        Hey Wellington, my friend across the pond (I like it very much)

        ”Islam actually belongs with comedy and totalitarianism, not with what is serious and liberating.”
        Right. The admixture of totalitarianism turns the comedy into a creepy grotesque. In normal world we would stare at it with the same kind of morbid fascination that some time ago made people attend freak shows. Today few realize that we, by conceding, that there isn’t, or rather mustn’t be, such a thing as a freaky culture, religion or civilization joined the freaks in the show. Really, there is no way to witness, in every aspect, most advanced civilization, debases and contorts itself to integrate into the grotesque of Islam, but with pity and contempt. That is how Moslems look at the West dismantling itself for their sake. Except that they don’t pity us. There may not be fun in Islam, but gloating and jeering is recommended.
        I thought about the man-made climate change mumbo-jumbo. It may not have much power over the objective reality, but it does wreck havoc with the common sense perception of that reality. Very few times before so many had crowded into the house of idiocy and humbug with such enthusiasm. I tried discussing with one of them, actually it was he that tried to convert me and I pointed out the unusually cold winter, or winters, and he responded that it doesn’t really represent the trend. In other words it has been a hijacking of a great good theory by a tiny minority of extremes of reality.
        My late father once said to me to never underestimate the power of stupidity. The older I get the more I see that these old guys could be quite right, quite often. Oh, had I known that before…
        Take care, my friend.

        • thomas_h says

          Feb 15, 2014 at 2:23 pm

          “Really, there is no way to witness the most advanced, in every aspect, civilization debases and contorts itself to integrate into the grotesque of Islam, but with pity and contempt.”

          I hope it makes more sense.

        • Wellington says

          Feb 15, 2014 at 9:29 pm

          You always make sense, thomas_h. Stay warm, my friend.

  16. Rose B says

    Feb 15, 2014 at 2:07 pm

    Muhammad al-Arifi has the mentality of a crazed baboon. A zoo cage should be made available for him.

  17. Joel says

    Feb 15, 2014 at 4:44 pm

    What does OCD mean?

  18. Joel says

    Feb 15, 2014 at 4:54 pm

    I think that you are insulting. TO A CRAZED BABBOON, that is.

    Just my 5 cents

  19. Joel says

    Feb 17, 2014 at 2:15 pm

    It looks like, from the picture, that he has both arms. And it does not say that he lost a limb.

    IF it is good to lose a limb for Jihad–why doesn’t he volunteer, and also his family members?

    And, a bit off topic, if sex for the jihadist is good, why aren’t the Imams; and other leaders sending their wives ( they have 4, right?), daughters, sisters, etc?

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