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NJ judge rules NYPD didn’t discriminate against Muslims with counter-terror surveillance

Feb 20, 2014 6:12 pm By Robert Spencer

JudgeMartiniThis lawsuit was a craven attempt to end NYPD counter-terror efforts. If it had succeeded, it would have given a green light to Islamic jihad activity, with the NYPD handcuffed and unable to do anything to stop jihad terror plots. Judge William Martini ruled in favor of common sense: “The police could not have monitored New Jersey for Muslim terrorist activities without monitoring the Muslim community itself. … The motive for the program was not solely to discriminate against Muslims, but to find Muslim terrorists hiding among the ordinary law-abiding Muslims.”

AP suffers a blow with this decision as well: they disclosed the surveillance in order to bring an end to it. They failed. But there is no doubt that Islamic supremacists and their allies in the mainstream media will try again, and again, and again, until they get the outcome they want, while free people stand by on the eroding bank of their freedoms and refrain from getting involved in anything “controversial.”

“NJ judge throws out NYPD spying lawsuit,” from the Associated Press, February 20 (thanks to Block Ness):

NEW YORK — The New York Police Department’s intelligence unit didn’t discriminate against Muslims with far-reaching surveillance aimed at identifying “budding terrorist conspiracies” at Newark mosques and other locations in New Jersey, a federal judge ruled on Thursday.

In a written decision filed in federal court in Newark, U.S. District Judge William Martini dismissed a civil rights lawsuit brought in 2012 by eight Muslims who alleged the NYPD’s surveillance programs were unconstitutional because they focused on religion, national origin and race. The suit had accused the department of spying on ordinary people at several mosques, restaurants and grade schools in New Jersey since 2002.

The plaintiffs, including the former principal of a grade school for Muslim girls, “have not alleged facts from which it can be plausibly inferred that they were targeted solely because of their religion,” Martini wrote. “The more likely explanation for the surveillance was to locate budding terrorist conspiracies.”

The judge added: “The police could not have monitored New Jersey for Muslim terrorist activities without monitoring the Muslim community itself. … The motive for the program was not solely to discriminate against Muslims, but to find Muslim terrorists hiding among the ordinary law-abiding Muslims.”

The ruling also singled out The Associated Press, which sparked the suit with a series of stories based on confidential NYPD document showing how the department sought to infiltrate dozens of mosques and Muslim student groups and investigated hundreds in New York and elsewhere.

“Nowhere in the complaint do the plaintiffs allege that they suffered harm prior to the unauthorized release of documents by The Associated Press,” Martini wrote. “This confirms that plaintiffs’ alleged injuries flow from the Associated Press’s unauthorized disclosure of the documents. … The Associated Press covertly obtained the materials and published them without authorization. Thus the injury, if any existed, is not fairly traceable to the city.”

The Center for Constitutional Rights, which represented the plaintiffs, called the decision troubling.

“In addition to willfully ignoring the harm that our innocent clients suffered from the NYPD’s illegal spying program, by upholding the NYPD’s blunderbuss Muslim surveillance practices, the court’s decision gives legal sanction to the targeted discrimination of Muslims anywhere and everywhere in this country, without limitation, for no other reason than their religion,” CCR Legal Director Baher Azmy said….

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  1. Wellington says

    Feb 20, 2014 at 6:37 pm

    This is a purely common sense ruling that only those without common sense or those possessed of a nefarious agenda will oppose. Unfortunately, we live in an age where common sense is at a premium and bad guys exist aplenty. Still, this is one small step in the right direction, which I’m sure the likes of CAIR, the AP, The Center For Constitutional Rights (founded by William Kunstler, a legal loon if ever there were one), Eric Holder and Holder’s boss will find deeply objectionable.

    Ah, the war continues. And it is absolutely a war—–a war for the soul of Western Civilization, which Muslims along with their clueless Western allies, the vast majority of whom can be found on the left side of the political spectrum, hope the West will lose. In fact, nothing could be clearer than this. Nothing.

  2. dumbledoresarmy says

    Feb 20, 2014 at 6:39 pm

    Well done, Your Honour.

    How would ordinary New York non-Muslim citizens go about expressing their appreciation of a Judge who has retained a modicum of a/ commonsense and b/ the instinct of self-preservation?

    Thank God for Judge William Martini (what a wonderful New York surname! – perhaps there should be toasts all round).

    Of course, there’s a next step the Judge – and the NYPD – need to take: that the Ummah or Mohammedan Mob *actively* produces, enables and *supports* the jihad terror plotters (who are its Enforcers, Hit Men, Assassins, or Standing Army). That the Ummah or Mohammedan Mob is the nurturing sea within which the jihadis swim and from which, ceaselessly, they emerge. The NYPD are in fact *proceeding*, in practical terms, as if this were the case; they need to *consciously* accept that this is the case. That the Mob is…well… a Mob; that the Allah Gang is the biggest and baddest Gang that they (the NYPD) have ever or will ever encounter, causing even the Italian or Russian mafia and S American narco cartels and Chinese tongs and triads and Japanese yakuza to pale into insignificance by comparison; that *every* mosque is, in effect, a Crime Family hideout or Gang fortress; every imam or sheikh a capo or Gang Boss.

  3. dumbledoresarmy says

    Feb 20, 2014 at 6:46 pm

    A propos of my remarks above.

    Maybe one of our New York forum regulars – or – “Wellington”, would you like to do it on our behalf? – you being our resident expert on matters legal and historical – should write to thank Judge Martini and offer him, or suggest to him for further “background briefing” on a subject that is bound to come through his court more and more, two books by ex-Muslim Sam Solomon. The first is called “The Mosque and Its Role in Society”; the second, “Al Hijra: The Islamic Doctrine of Immigration”.

    And perhaps “Undaunted”, as our resident ex-cop, or “Davegreybeard”, our resident veteran, might like to send the same two books to the head of the NYPD, with a suitable covering note.

  4. jihad3tracker says

    Feb 20, 2014 at 6:59 pm

    Hello to Wellington and dumbledoresarmy —

    You posted ( virtually verbatim ) my intended remarks before I landed on JW this evening.

  5. D.C. Watson says

    Feb 20, 2014 at 7:02 pm

    Thank you Judge Martini.

    Freedom-phobic jihadists… You have given yourselves far too much credit for being persuasive and clever. Sometimes the squeaky wheel doesn’t get the grease, it simply gets bent in half, tossed in the trash, and replaced with one that is quiet and just rolls on down the road.

    Too many barbaric sneak attacks on unsuspecting people have been perpetrated by you retrograde racist, sexist pork chops.

    The task at hand is to make sure that no one, anywhere, is unsuspecting. And we will continue to do so.

    Have a nice day.

  6. Australian Nationalist says

    Feb 20, 2014 at 7:28 pm

    Puts Sharia into perspective for particularly the oppression of women. A good read.
    http://austeaparty.com.au/web/sharia-laws-war-on-women/

  7. Australian Nationalist says

    Feb 20, 2014 at 7:28 pm

    Puts Sharia into perspective for particularly the oppression of women. A good read.
    http://austeaparty.com.au/web/sharia-laws-war-on-women/

  8. Australian Nationalist says

    Feb 20, 2014 at 7:28 pm

    Puts Sharia into perspective for particularly the oppression of women. A good read.
    http://austeaparty.com.au/web/sharia-laws-war-on-women/

  9. Champ says

    Feb 20, 2014 at 7:45 pm

    “Judge William Martini ruled in favor of common sense”

    Bravo, Judge William! Ruling in favor of common sense is always a good thing, and a boon for counter-jihad. Take that! …you evil perps.

  10. Royce says

    Feb 20, 2014 at 8:37 pm

    it’s astonishing that this is the exception rather than the norm . Between the collusion and greed of the right and the treeason and hate on the left. Islam is piggybacking into our society with far greater ease than the communists. Religion is the card they play for this invasion that will cost the human race far more under Islam than communism would have been.

  11. miriam rove says

    Feb 20, 2014 at 9:07 pm

    this is great. However I am sure the jihadists will be back.m

  12. voegelinian says

    Feb 20, 2014 at 11:45 pm

    “Judge William Martini ruled in favor of common sense…” — I’ll drink to that!

    • Champ says

      Feb 21, 2014 at 5:16 pm

      LOL!! ..yeah Cheers! to the judge 😀

  13. Salah says

    Feb 20, 2014 at 11:47 pm

    “The motive for the program was … to find Muslim terrorists hiding among the ordinary law-abiding Muslims.”

    Law-abiding Muslims should fully cooperate with this program. Failing to do so puts them automatically in the “other” category.

  14. mortimer says

    Feb 21, 2014 at 12:00 am

    Jihadists insist they have a right to take over and enslave the world to Sharia law ANY WAY THEY LIKE!

    Kafirs have no right to obstruct Allah’s enslavement of the planet by Arabs. Kafirs who object to the removal of their human rights and civil liberties are obviously led by Satan.

    65% of Muslims want strict Sharia law and a universal Islamic dictatorship known as the caliphate.

    Most Muslims are supremacists, however quietly they go about it.

  15. Rob says

    Feb 21, 2014 at 2:33 am

    Is Judge Martini a former student of Thomas Sowell?
    The same incisiveness – bravo.

  16. London Jim says

    Feb 21, 2014 at 4:24 am

    I will be wearing my NYPD baseball cap to work today with an added smile of satisfaction.

  17. veggiedog says

    Feb 21, 2014 at 7:01 am

    Now for the rest of the country to grow some.

  18. R. Marne says

    Feb 21, 2014 at 7:37 am

    Finally, some sanity from the federal courts. Thank God!

  19. duh_swami says

    Feb 21, 2014 at 8:17 am

    D.C. Watson…nice to see you are still around…

    Court ruling: Three cheers for the judge…I bet the bro’s over at CAIR headquarters are bleeding from the ears over it.

  20. Bamaguje says

    Feb 21, 2014 at 8:45 am

    Note the jaundiced wording of the AP report – ” far-reaching surveillance.”
    This erroneously implies the surveillance was excessive or inappropriate.

  21. London Jim says

    Feb 21, 2014 at 8:47 am

    I’d like to see Prof Baher Azmy go head-to-head with Mr Spencer.

  22. London Jim says

    Feb 21, 2014 at 9:26 am

    . . I mean, Prof Azmy is a hot shot at Constitutional Law, and it would interesting to see what he knows about Shari’ah etc.

  23. Shane says

    Feb 21, 2014 at 9:52 am

    Great news and very sensible. How on earth are we supposed to stop Islamic terrorism without sending agents into the Muslim communities?

  24. Bezelel says

    Feb 21, 2014 at 9:58 am

    To Honorable Judge Martini,
    Well done Sir.

  25. citycat says

    Feb 21, 2014 at 9:59 am

    “… the ordinary law-abiding Muslims.”

    A paradox creeping.

  26. Undaunted says

    Feb 21, 2014 at 10:02 am

    Ballsy judge, he.

  27. Alarmed Pig Farmer says

    Feb 21, 2014 at 10:04 am

    This ruling is good news… in a very important battle that has virtually no good news. I tip my hat to the judge for his truthfulness and courage. He seems to be implying that there is no room for fictive reality in mass murder conspiracy cases. But, he’ll be marginalized through a new law or a phony decision by the Supremes, who make it up as they go along with all living document” con.

  28. Defcon says

    Feb 21, 2014 at 10:54 am

    @agent of Liberty

    You’re assuming Christy doesn’t know, or possibly deliberately doesn’t want to know. Really, using the www, is it all that difficult to find out what islam is allah about? Granted the enemedia, academia and public school system are nothing more than islam0fascist propaganda outlets, but you can still find the truth on blogs like JW. As Mr. D. Greenfield has written, you can’t wake someone who’s only pretending to be asleep. I’d assert Christy has been bought and paid for by islam0fascist petrodollars.

  29. Paleologos says

    Feb 21, 2014 at 11:50 am

    Now if the judge could just order governor fat boy …

    http://thefinereport.com/wp-content/imagescaler/5787c7461c87e88a8cff5c3b674da633.jpg

    to purge his administration of muslims, because he understands the threat of islam about as well as former NYC Mayor and permanent moron, Michael Bloomberg does …

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQsHc1EHgQY

    http://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/2014/01/21/muslims-political-influence-in-chris-christies-new-jersey/

    … maybe New Jersey would be a nice place to live.

    You will still need to avoid Newark, methane capital of the world. If you light a friend’s farts in Newark, you are liable to blow up the whole city 🙂 .

    R/

    Paleologos

  30. voegelinian says

    Feb 21, 2014 at 1:08 pm

    Still no Reply buttons, eh? What happened to them? Their absence forces cumbersome and time-wasting maneuvers on the commenter. For example, there are four comments I want to reply to above, so I have to copy them individually, paste them down here, then rinse and repeat. My mouse and little finger will become seriously first-worldlily fatigued…

    Perhaps if enough Jihad Watchers are bothered by this, we can assemble in a ruly mob and chant — Replytica! Replytica! Replytica! …

  31. Geppetto says

    Feb 21, 2014 at 1:12 pm

    Will the Muslims that initiated this lawsuit be willing and eager to admit that they are too stupid to seek out and expose those among them dedicated to Jihad, a religious, Muslim practice? Will they admit that they are too stupid to observe, evaluate and conclude that the overwhelming evidence available to all conclusively proves that the majority of the brutal, inhuman, rapacious, torture and murder committed, around the world, on a daily basis is the work of their precious, religious brethren?? And if they are that stupid or obtuse does it not make infinite sense that those who are endangered by their violent tendencies must make every effort to protect the innocent among us, no matter how naive, unaware and uninformed? And if you are as stupid as you pretend to be, and so miserable and discontented with how you are being treated here, why did you come to America in the first place? You were too stupid to realize how miserable your existence would be in the land of the “infidel”?

    Here’s some friendly advice to all you Muslims who feel you’re unfairly repressed or treated here in America……….go home……..back from wherever you came from. No one will detain you, no one will threaten you, all will be courteous, apologize for disappointing you and wish you well. But you are not welcome here unless it is your intent to obey our laws, learn to speak our language, become American citizens and pledge allegiance to our flag.

  32. voegelinian says

    Feb 21, 2014 at 1:24 pm

    Salah
    February 20, 2014 at 11:47 pm

    <i<“The motive for the program was … to find Muslim terrorists hiding among the ordinary law-abiding Muslims.”

    Law-abiding Muslims should fully cooperate with this program. Failing to do so puts them automatically in the “other” category.

    One of the more important epiphanies a person can experience in his long LCPOI (Learning Curve on the Problem of Islam) is that — since a) we cannot distinguish with sufficient reliability Harmless Muslims from Dangerous Muslims (the latter category does not merely include exploding or stabbing Muslims, but also their millions of Co-Dependent Enablers), we then b) logically cannot trust any Muslim, and hence c) all Muslims are equally suspect — therefore we have to stop “shoulding” Muslims, as Salah does here. “Muslims should clean up their act, or else, by Gum…!”

    This important epiphany on the LCPOI confers upon its recipient the grimly clear conclusion that it is long past the time to be continuing to expect Muslims to behave. We must buckle down, knuckle up, and look forward to formulating policy based upon hopelessness — not a loss of hope in ourselves, but a loss of hope in all Muslims. Any policy that still hangs on to hope about millions of Muslims will be doomed to reinforce disastrously reckless if not suicidal behaviors on the governmental and geopolitical levels for any free nation in its long-range opposition to Islam (which, of course, hasn’t even begun yet — but that’s what the Counter-Jihad’s main function is now: to operate as Canaries in the Coalmine trying to wake up our fellow Westerners from their pleasantly oblivious Rip Van Winkle nap).

    Thus, I am heartened by two comments above that demonstrate appropriately wry skepticism and intelligence:

    old white guy
    February 21, 2014 at 7:00 am

    good for the judge….. I wonder when we will stop reading that “law abiding muslim” line in every article about controlling jihad.

    citycat
    February 21, 2014 at 9:59 am

    “… the ordinary law-abiding Muslims.”

    A paradox creeping.

  33. voegelinian says

    Feb 21, 2014 at 1:25 pm

    Curses on that html code…!

  34. Alarmed Pig Farmer says

    Feb 21, 2014 at 1:49 pm

    Still no Reply buttons, eh?

    It seems to be a commonplace thing where a blog will mysteriously lose its Reply buttons. That happens on PJMedia all the time. I think that the browser loses its sense of state and so doesn’t render the Reply button.

    If the engineering industry had the quality standards of the software industry, planes would be dropping from the sky and bridges would collapse under a 20% weight load.

  35. RodSerling says

    Feb 21, 2014 at 4:13 pm

    Baher Azmy: “…the court’s decision gives legal sanction to the targeted discrimination of Muslims anywhere and everywhere in this country, without limitation, for no other reason than their religion,”

    Heh, ignoring what the judge said. The judge said the Muslim communities were being monitored because there is a reasonable concern that there are terrorists among the law-abiding Muslims.

    If there is a reasonable concern that there are dangerous criminals or terrorists in any community, then that community is going to be monitored. It’s simply not possible to monitor terrorists who are members of a community without at least incidentally monitoring that community (unless the terrorists are absolute hermits and never interact with anyone inside their own community–in which case they would not be defined as members of the community in the first place). Any community that has terrorists within it would be monitored. In short, the plaintiffs’ case is, in substance, absurd. They are in effect asking that Muslims be exempt from being monitored–something to which any community could be subjected.

    It’s interesting to consider the (apparent lack of) consistency in the thinking of those who would advocate for this type of exemption for Muslims. These are for the most part the same people who would argue that the West is to blame for some Muslims’ terrorism. We’re bombing them, so the argument goes, therefore they are only naturally striking back against us. Let’s assume that’s true. If it’s true, then the first ones who should be advocating that Muslims be monitored are those who argue that their terror plots etc. are natural, expected reactions to our foreign policies and military actions. And of course, those who advocate that Muslims not be monitored also tend to believe that such terrorist attacks and plots by Muslims are justified. The apparent inconsistency becomes consistent if we suppose that those who want to stop monitoring Muslims also want these terrorists to be successful in their larger goals, including defeating the West. This of course is a conscious wish of the jihadists. For some of their enablers (e.g., the extreme left), it is also a conscious wish, though for many it may be a subconscious wish.

    • voegelinian says

      Feb 22, 2014 at 4:38 am

      There is an irrational higher standard for Muslims, whereby Martini’s distinction means nothing and is in fact tantamount to persecuting Muslims. This higher standard is not only adroitly exploited by Muslims, but also stupidly enabled by all too many PC MC Westerners. Judge Martini is an exception that seems to prove the rule.

  36. Joel says

    Feb 21, 2014 at 10:01 pm

    I have two questions, one of which is not covered, the other ignored.

    1. WHO ( WHAT PRESIDENT) APPOINTED THIS JUDGE? I would bet it was NOT Nobama; and probably not Clinton-he would not meet Shilelry’s qualifications. And, the picture makes him ( my view) to have been a Reagan appointee. So was it Bush 1 or Bush 2? O am I wrong?

    2. Regarding AP and their traitor (in my view) who disclosed the surveillance. Are they aware that under Muslim rule THERE IS NO FREEDOM OF THE PRESS? THAT THERE IS NO FREEDOM OF SPEECH? THAT THERE IS NO FREEDOM OF (OR FROM) RELIGION? OR, ARE THEY SO ———————- STUPID AND HATE WESTERN CIVILIZATION SO MUCH, THAT THEY JUST DON’T CARE?

  37. John Stefean Obeda says

    Feb 21, 2014 at 10:04 pm

    “Thank you God for having blessed this Judge Martini with common sense and true love for our country so that we are able to protect ourselves. Please bless all of our judges with the same gift and help us to get rid of people in high places and even low who are fifth columnists in our beloved country. Please help us to preserve our democracy and free speech and liberties with which you have blessed us through our forefathers long ago. Help us to obey Your laws and your will and we ask for forgiveness of our sins. Punish us not for our sins as we deserve, but for the sake of our Saviour Jesus, forgive us and bless our country with good leaders.”

  38. gravenimage says

    Feb 22, 2014 at 5:25 pm

    NJ judge rules NYPD didn’t discriminate against Muslims with counter-terror surveillance
    ………………………………..

    Bravo Judge William Martini!

    For those who were wondering, Judge Martini was appointed by President George Bush in 2002. Before this, he served as a New Jersey Congressman.

    More:

    This lawsuit was a craven attempt to end NYPD counter-terror efforts. If it had succeeded, it would have given a green light to Islamic jihad activity, with the NYPD handcuffed and unable to do anything to stop jihad terror plots.
    ………………………………..

    Yes—and especially given the target that New York City presents—and the number of failed Jihad terror attempts since 9/11—this would have been utterly suicidal.

    More:

    AP suffers a blow with this decision as well: they disclosed the surveillance in order to bring an end to it. They failed. But there is no doubt that Islamic supremacists and their allies in the mainstream media will try again, and again, and again….
    ………………………………..

    Yes. This is an important decision, but we must remain vigilant.

  39. Defcon 4 says

    Feb 23, 2014 at 2:00 am

    As more and more muslimes infiltrate and subvert our law enforcement and judiciary common-sense decisions like these will become a thing of our pre-islamic past.

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Feb 23, 2014 at 3:24 am

      Why use such a defeatist “all is lost nothing can be done all that remains is to lie down and despair” tone ?

      If you must say things like this, use words like “if”. “IF such and such a thing is *allowed* to continue, *then*…”. Otherwise you are subliminally ‘programming’ your hearers for defeat.

      Are you a member of ACT for America? If not, then you ought to be, if you are in the USA. Aim for *millions* of members…and then the Islamisation of the USA will *not* be a done deal.

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