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Pakistan: 34% of women say men are justified in hitting wives if they argue back

Feb 1, 2014 12:31 pm By Robert Spencer

This is a good one for World Hijab Day. Stockholm syndrome. But it’s understandable: these women have been raised as Muslims, and taught that this is a divine command: “Men are the managers of the affairs of women for that God has preferred in bounty one of them over another, and for that they have expended of their property. Righteous women are therefore obedient, guarding the secret for God’s guarding. And those you fear may be rebellious admonish; banish them to their couches, and beat them.” (Qur’an 4:34)

Hooper would still say that the abuser “violates Islamic beliefs,” because Islamic apologists routinely claim that the Qur’an’s command to beat disobedient women must be applied only with the most harmless of implements — i.e., a toothstick, as per a weak hadith. However, Muhammad’s example is normative for Muslims, since he is an “excellent example of conduct” (Qur’an 33:21) — and according to a canonical hadith, Muhammad’s favorite wife, his child bride Aisha, reports that Muhammad struck her. Once he went out at night after he thought she was asleep, and she followed him surreptitiously. Muhammad saw her, and, as Aisha recounts: “He struck me on the chest which caused me pain, and then said: Did you think that Allah and His Apostle would deal unjustly with you?” (Sahih Muslim 2127) Aisha herself said it: “I have not seen any woman suffering as much as the believing women.” (Sahih Bukhari 7.72.715)

“34% of women say men are justified in hitting wives if they argue back: Pakistan survey,” by Ali Sidiki for the Express Tribune, January 26 (thanks to Blazing Cat Fur):

The Pakistan Demographic and Health Survey (PDHS) recently issued a comprehensive report in which, among various other questions,  respondents  were asked to choose reasons for which it is justified for a husband to hit his wife. 

The 2012-13 PDHS includes results from completed interviews with 13,558 women and 3,134 men age 15-49, all of whom have been married at least once in their lives.

The report summarised findings from between 2012 and 2013 on various topics including maternal and child health, infant mortality levels, immunisation and awareness regarding HIV/AIDS.

The section ‘Women’s empowerment and demographic and health outcomes’ included a survey on attitudes towards domestic violence. The respondents were presented with six reasons that may be used to justify wife beating.

The six circumstances were: if the wife burns the food, if she argues with him, if she goes out without telling him, if she neglects the children, if she refuses to have sexual intercourse with him and if she neglects her in-laws. Respondents were allowed to choose multiple reasons.

The most widely accepted reason for wife beating among women in Pakistan is arguing with the husband (34%). 28% of women agree that a husband is justified in beating his wife if she neglects her in-laws and 18% agreed that a husband is justified in beating his wife if she burns the food.

Similar to the pattern among women, men are least likely to agree that burning the food is a valid reason for wife beating.

The majority of men (19.8%) felt that the most justified reason for beating their wife was the wife going out without telling him.

They also show similar levels of support for the other five reasons (16-20%), although at much lower levels than among women.

Across all six reasons, women voted in higher numbers than men. Among the respondents, 66% of men didn’t agree with any of the reasons mentioned while the percentage among women was 57.5%.

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  1. miriam rove says

    Feb 1, 2014 at 12:42 pm

    the other 66% are also in the same boat.m

    • Christian Beltram says

      Feb 1, 2014 at 9:15 pm

      This statistic should be a wake up call to all good people in the world who want to stop the further spread of Jihadism. If nothing is doen to stop the global Jihad, 100% of all women and girls in the world will be in the same boat.

  2. mortimer says

    Feb 1, 2014 at 12:50 pm

    Islamic Stockholm syndrome!

    Psychologists should study this.

    • Christian Beltram says

      Feb 1, 2014 at 9:22 pm

      That will only be done when psychologists decide to stop being politically correct.

    • gravenimage says

      Feb 2, 2014 at 11:36 pm

      Mortimer wrote:

      Islamic Stockholm syndrome!

      Psychologists should study this.
      ……………………

      Mortimer and Christian, the Dutch psychologist Nicholai Sennels, who is a frequent Jihad Watch contributor, has done some good work here.

  3. Mo-Blows says

    Feb 1, 2014 at 1:19 pm

    I’m sure the punishment for NOT agreeing that women who expect too many freedoms and human dignity would be far worse in Pakistan.

    Pakistan is a backward shit hole populated by 7th century barbarians .

    Why the hell are we importing peoples into western culture who have obvious contempt for the very same cultures that allow them the OPPORTUNITY to elevate themselves above the primitive archaic existence they had back in their Islamic hell holes? Peoples who REJECT ( and you can see these rejection every single day ) Freedom of conscience, Freedom of religion, human rights, women’s rights , democracy, science, and practically everything OUR civilization is based upon.

    All Immigration should be ceased from ALL Islamic countries.

    It’s not about race but Ideology. I truly believe that no person should be discriminated against based on race or skin colour or denied opportunity for advancement and a better life either , but hateful and regressive ideologies that do not play nice with others and have a centuries old proven track record of intolerance , violence, and counter democratic ideals simply should NOT be allowed to get a foothold in the west as it has.

    It’s just common sense.

    The great LIE of political correctness is that ALL people want to live in peace and want the same freedoms that we take for granted and that is just not so!

    Islam is not compatible with democracy. THEIR own words .

    Can we start believing it yet?

    • Mo-Blows says

      Feb 1, 2014 at 1:23 pm

      Edit:
      I’m sure the punishment for NOT agreeing that women who expect too many freedoms and human dignity should be beaten , would be far worse in Pakistan.

    • Christian Beltram says

      Feb 1, 2014 at 9:05 pm

      I have a slight correction. Only Muslims who refuse to apostasize from Islam should be barred from emigrating to free countries. All Muslims who wish to leave Islam along with non-Muslims from Muslim countries should be allowed to emigrate to free countries so they will not be murdered in those countries whenever Jihadists decide to totally exterminate them. If all European Jews were allowed to emigrate to the free world before the Nazis occupied most of Europe, then the Jewish community of Europe and its rich civilization would still exist today.

    • terry says

      Feb 3, 2014 at 12:00 am

      so true, christians myself included have to do a better job of showing the way.

  4. voegelinian says

    Feb 1, 2014 at 3:17 pm

    “Pakistan: 34% of women say men are justified in hitting wives if they argue back”

    Meanwhile, 65.9999% didn’t respond because their husbands might kill them if they did so.

    And the 0.0001%? Those are the MINOs.

  5. Defcon 4 says

    Feb 1, 2014 at 7:02 pm

    Sarcastically speaking, if women were not “deficient in intelligence to men” as allah has revealed, they would all support men “hitting them” if they argue back (against men).

  6. fair_dinkum says

    Feb 1, 2014 at 7:40 pm

    they have to funnel the oppression somewhere..

    these 33% would like to see other women they are jealous of, be beaten.

  7. gravenimage says

    Feb 1, 2014 at 8:21 pm

    Pakistan: 34% of women say men are justified in hitting wives if they argue back
    …………………………………….

    Stockholm Syndrome indeed.

    More:

    The six circumstances were: if the wife burns the food, if she argues with him, if she goes out without telling him, if she neglects the children, if she refuses to have sexual intercourse with him and if she neglects her in-laws.
    …………………………………….

    A number of these are based on Islam—a woman is not allowed out of the house without her owner’s permission; she is supposed to have sexual intercourse with her husband “even on the back of a camel”, and “angels will curse her until morning” if she refuses; and most Muslim women are considered the property of her husbands family, are are used as virtual servants by her in-laws; and in the civilized West, one of the recognized warning signs of an abuser are violence over things like ‘burning the food’.

    Notice that it is all one-way—there are no penalties for a Muslim husband who is neglectful or otherwise lacking.

    And if a wife dares argue back that is another reason for him to beat her…

  8. RodSerling says

    Feb 1, 2014 at 9:18 pm

    Looking at the pdf of the report… page 210, says 43% of Pakistani women (and 34% of Pakistani men) agreed with at least one of the listed reasons for wife beating.
    http://measuredhs.com/pubs/pdf/FR290/FR290.pdf

    • Christian Beltram says

      Feb 1, 2014 at 9:29 pm

      This statistic proves that Pakistan needs to be entirely deprogrammed before it can become a modern nation where all people, not just Muslim men are treated as full human beings.

  9. RodSerling says

    Feb 1, 2014 at 9:38 pm

    Page 223 of the report: “Forty-four percent of women who are divorced, se
    parated, or widowed and 32 percent of currently
    married women have experienced physical violence si
    nce age 15. Currently married women are less likely
    to have experienced physical violence in the past 12 months (19 percent) than formerly married women (21 percent).”

    Almost all of this reported violence was committed by the husband or former husband.

  10. fair_dinkum says

    Feb 2, 2014 at 1:39 am

    and if we step back and look at the forest..

    wife beating is normal. which is telling indication of the amount of physical and psychological abuse women are subject to.

    it is so expected, the The Pakistan Demographic and Health Survey (PDHS)
    put different specific reasons for abuse. (and i must assume, most commonly listed ..in the koran, in police reports etc)

    Women are supporting spousal abuse. through fear or through blind obedience. and have done for 1400 years or so.

    beating with impunity and not being allowed out of the house..suggests, or shows, ownership. its a medieval system.

  11. RonaldB says

    Feb 2, 2014 at 11:17 am

    This cannot be emphasized enough: the Muslim woman who has not formally renounced Islam should not be viewed as an ally in the struggle against Islam. Muslim women are just as brainwashed and just as compliant to Islam as the men.

    The reason for pointing out Islam’s treatment of women is not to bring over Muslim women, but to show non-Muslim women what awaits them if further Muslim immigration is allowed. The luxury of our advanced society unfortunately permits the separation of cause and effect for a long time, but not forever. I’m afraid once our defenses are breeched,it will be too late. But the publicizing of surveys such as this one maximizes the chances of people listening while something can still be done.

  12. Tony Bamber says

    Feb 3, 2014 at 1:05 pm

    The women in this survey may have had their genitals mutilated, may have been forced to marry their uncle at nine and been regularly beaten. Can anybody who is brought up in such an environment be expected to have rational objective opinions?

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