The SPLC lists Jihad Watch, of which I am the director, the American Freedom Defense Initiative, of which I am vice president, and its Stop Islamization of America project as hate groups, and these classifications, unsurprisingly, have become a staple of every report from lazy Leftist journalists. None of them ever pause, and probably none of them ever wish to pause, to consider the question quis custodiet ipso custodes? — Who watches the watchmen? Why is fighting for the freedom of speech and the equality of rights of all people now classified as “hate”? An uncritical, uninformed public takes for granted that the SPLC is some kind of neutral observer, when actually it is a far-Left attack outfit, using its “hate group” classifications to stigmatize and demonize foes of its political agenda. But it classifies no Islamic jihad groups as “hate groups,” and has now dropped the racist, violent and paranoid Nation of Islam from its hate group list.
The cynicism and irresponsibility of this is obvious. Not that any mainstream media reporter will deign to report on it.
“Number of Ohio hate groups drops in 2013, report says,” by JoAnne Viviano for The Columbus Dispatch, February 25:
The number of hate groups in Ohio fell by about 17 percent in 2013, according to data released today by the Southern Poverty Law Center.
The center counted 30 such groups in the state in 2013, compared with 36 in 2012.
Nationwide, the center says, the number of identified hate groups dropped by about 7 percent, from 1,007 to 939, the fewest number since 2009. Numbers had increased each year from 1999 to 2011, climbing from 457 to 1,018.
The report, titled “The Year in Hate & Extremism,” cited these factors for the decline: the co-opting of issues by mainstream politicians, an improving economy, law-enforcement crackdowns, same-sex marriage advancements, implementation of national health-care changes, Obama’s re-election, and little action on firearms and immigration laws.
“Those factors, along with the collapse or near-collapse of several major groups for a variety of reasons, seem to have taken some of the wind out of the sails of the radical right, leaving the movement both weaker and somewhat smaller,” says the report, which appears in the spring 2014 edition of the center’s Intelligence Report.
“But that has not dampened the violence and terrorism coming out of the movement.”
Remember when you read that about “violence and terrorism” that the SPLC lists no Islamic groups as “hate groups.”
The center said two hate groups are in central Ohio: ISD Records of Lancaster, in Fairfield County, is categorized as a racist-music group, and the Columbus-based Mission: America is categorized as anti-gay-lesbian-bisexual-transgender.
On its website, Mission: America addresses the center’s claims against it on a “to our critics” page. It refers to its hate-group label as a “deliberate and puzzling smear campaign” and asks readers to “please take every accusation with a great deal of skepticism.”
“Mission: America is not a hate group, as claimed by the far-left SPLC,” the statement says. “In fact, based on how the SPLC has begun listing respected Christian conservative groups as if they could be compared with the likes of the Ku Klux Klan, it seems that the SPLC would qualify for this label itself by using such underhanded and invalid tactics.
The statement goes on to say that the organization is not racist and that “we … don’t ‘hate’ homosexuals. We simply object to homosexuality, the behavior, which is unnecessary.”…
No longer identified as hate groups are a Columbus-based Nation of Islam group, classified as “black separatist,” and a Chillicothe-based Crusaders for Yahweh, termed an “identity” group….
mariam rove says
at times I thin nation of islam and louis Frakhan are more vile that hamas. m
veggiedog says
Vile is putting it mildly. I wonder when they will classify Hadassah as a hate group, wait, they probably have already. What about Hillel, that certainly should make their criteria. America is a vile place these days, no rhyme or reason for anything except the Progressive thought process. And when they bomb or torch a Church or Synagogue that is ok, but a Mosque, no go there, that is racist. The Neo Nazi movement is in synch with the threat of Islam, one day they will be a target too.
mariam rove says
Funny. I do a lot work with Hadassah . They are truly a humanitarian org saving all kind of lives wether jews or otherwise. M
veggiedog says
Sounds very Jewish. Look at Israel.
Bill C. says
And this comes as a surprise? C’mon, man!
Paul says
As-Sabiqun
Masjid Al-Islam
Jamaat al Muslimeen are the three total it lists….
Joel says
I reads somewhere that the SOUTHERN POVERTY LAW (?) CENTER will ONLY hire white ( Caucasian) attorneys.
Not sure if true, but would like to see their employment records.
shrugger says
They might be right about ISD Records. I’d never heard of it till now.
But classifying as hate groups for simply being Conservative or Christian is straight up wrong.
richard says
Southern Poverty Law Center believes there are only two hate groups in the world…1. White Americans who are not Stalinists and 2. Jews.
Christian A. Beltram says
Are there any organizations that monitor Islamic hate groups and produce their own lists and intelligence reports about the activities of such hate groups in addition to Jihad Watch? If not, perhaps a website should be created for this purpose that follows the same style as the SPLC but includes information about the hate groups that the SPLC does not want to include due to its desire to be politically correct. Perhaps such a website could be an addition to Jihad Watch or it could be another website entirely.
Also, if possible, please post the list of websites of other organizations that used to exist on the old Jihad Watch website onto the new Jihad Watch website. If that is done, then readers of Jihad Watch will be able to contact these organizations and read their websites as well. Perhaps this list could even be updated and expanded when new websites that that warn people about the Islamic threat are created and posted on the Internet.
veggiedog says
I think under our current administration to do so would be ILLIGAL. Sad, no.
veggiedog says
ILLEGAL, sorry
Michael Copeland says
Were the Pilgrim Fathers a hate group?
voegelinian says
Of course. They “genocided” American Indians, and later when they could, their immediate descendants enslaved blacks (and as we know, no other culture has ever enslaved anyone, and Muslims did not have a slave-abducting, slave-trading, and slave-abusing network far longer, broader and crueler than anything the white West ever had).
I don’t do the “sarc/off” thing; but I suppose I must now.
John Spielman says
The southern poverty law association is rapidly becoming irrelevant Marxist antisemetic anti Christian proIslamic racist mouth piece for all thing EVIL
Transmaster says
The Southern Poverty Law Center, The Anti-Defamation League, Jessie Jackson’s Rainbow Coalition, NAACP and other of organization of this type are nothing more then shake down organizations. They make unsubstantiated charges of racism and they then expect to be paid off to go away. So what did the murderer of Malcolm X (El-Hajj Malik El-Shabazz) do to get the Southern Poverty Law Center off of the backs of the Nation of Islam.
veggiedog says
Interesting question with so much muck around the assassination. Maybe Farrakhan should be asked.
And don’t leave Sharpton out of the hate mongers.
Transmaster says
Here are organization the Southern Poverty Law Center calls Anti-Islamic.
To me the most interesting is Silver Bullet Gun Oil whichs happen to be a very good gun oil. http://www.silverbulletgunoil.net/
9/11 Christian Center at Ground Zero
Aggressive Christianity
Atlas Shrugs (a blog by Pamela Geller)
Bare Naked Islam
Barnhardt Capital Management, Inc.
Casa D’Ice Signs
Christian Action Network
Christian Guardians
Christian Phalange
Citizen Warrior
Concerned American Citizens
Concerned Citizens for the First Amendment
Escaping Islam
Faith Freedom
Freedom Defense Initiative (FDI)
Insight USA
Islam: Making a True Difference in the World – One Body at a Time
Islam: the Religion of Peace (and a big stack of dead bodies)
Jihad Watch
Political Islam
Radio Jihad
Sharia Awareness Action Network
Silver Bullet Gun Oil
Stop Islamization of America (SIOA)
Sultan Knish (a blog by Daniel Greenfield)
Tennessee Freedom Coalition
The American Defense League
The United West
United States Justice Foundation
voegelinian says
I wonder if Silver Bullet Gun Oil refers to the legendary weapon effective against that other monster of yore and lore.
Transmaster says
Might be, but the bottom line is it fantastic gun oil and popular with Marines, and special forces types.
Transmaster says
Oh I forgot to mention, Silver Bullet Gun Oil contains 13% Pig Fat.
veggiedog says
Gonna get some of that…..i like what they stand for.. Have to buy direct, appears Amazon won’t touch it.
duh_swami says
Personally I don’t care what the Southern Propaganda Lie Center says about anything. They are a hate group themselves…Hypocrites…
Defcon 4 says
I’d love to get a list of prominent donors to the SPLC, I get the distinct feeling islam0nazi NGO’s would figure prominently.
mortimer says
NOT HATE? ARE THE FOLLOWING N.O.I. teachings LOVE?
-whites are devils because of a culture of lies and murder
-the original peoples of the world were black and that white people were a race of “devils” created by a scientist named Yakub (the Biblical and Qur’anic Jacob) on the Greek island of Patmos.
-Yakub established a secret birth control policy among the ruling class on the island. They were to kill all dark babies at birth and lie to the parents about the child’s fate.
-“Thoughtful white people know they are inferior to Black people.Even the religious philosophies, in essence, white supremacy. A white Jesus. A white Virgin. White angels. White everything. But a black Devil, of course. The “Uncle Sam” political foundation is based on white supremacy.”-Malcolm X
-“(If you join Scientology…)You can still be a Christian; you just won’t be a devil Christian. You’ll still be a Jew, but you won’t be a satanic Jew!” -Louis Farrakhan
-Farrakhan received millions from Moammar Kaddafi. He said: “It wasn’t the money, but the principles that made me his brother.”
-In July 2011, King and Representative Frank Wolf, worried that prisoners were being radicalized by Farrakhan, asked U.S. Bureau of Prisons Acting Director Thomas Kane to remove Nation of Islam material from prisons.
veggiedog says
And here i thought Jesus was Black, as were the Jews of that time. So are ME Muslims black?
Andrea McGann Little says
Big mistake
Prinz Eugen says
The SPLC should not be a tax exempt” entity — and this hate and racist group should have no connection to the US gov’t.
This situation is brought about by the utter lack of OPPOSITION from the congress! That sniveling collaborator, Wimp Boehner, simply refuses to investigate the many crimes and scandals being committed by this islamo-marxist regime. Meanwhile, Mullah Barry Sotero and Holder create special protections for their favorite perverted groups. And the GOP says NOTHING !!!!!
Mark Potok says
No, Robert, you’ve got it wrong once again — which would have been obvious had you bothered to look at our website. That particular Nation of Islam mosque is gone, so we no longer list that one. In fact, we list 68 NOI chapters as hate groups. You wouldn’t have to embarrass yourself like this if you actually took the trouble to read what we wrote, as opposed to what some local paper got wrong.
awake says
Hey Mark, thanks for dropping by. Can you provide an example of a NOI group that is not on your list of “hate groups”, and why? It seems counterintuitive to even the semi-sentient to pick and choose chapters for inclusion when the supposed leader of the NOI, Louis Farrakhan, holds such beliefs of biblical destruction of all areas, (and people’s), non-Islamic, no?
Do you care to comment on the link I provided above, at your earliest convenience of course. Most of us are quite patient here on this forum.
Thanks in advance.
awake says
And Mar, I see the latest entry on Breivik at SPLC was not the revelation that Breivik admitted to using the counter-jihad, (not anti-Muslim), movement as a shield to protect his support white ethno-nationalism. Maybe you guys just didn’t kmow about that? Or maybe it just wasn’t reported by any of your cartoonishly consistent liberal sources that you refer to as sources on your “hateblog”?
Here is the LAST article on Breivik posted on SPLC:
http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/07/26/american-anti-muslim-activists-throw-devoted-follower-breivik-under-bus/
Here is Robert’s report on Breivik’s revelation via his prison letter:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/01/murderer-breivik-opposed-spencer-and-other-counter-jihadists-identified-with-them-to-destroy-counter-jihad-movement
livingengine says
So, Mark Potok is stung by an inaccuracy reported about himself in a prominent internet source. It couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy.
I am glad he cleared things up because I was so ready to believe this since it is so in keeping with the SPLC’s character.
Awake has asked the right questions. Why cover the different mosques of NOI? Is it a way to quantify “hate”? A mosque closes, and hate goes down. A mosque opens, and hate goes up. But is it an indicator of hate, or is it a side effect from the agitation from people like Pamela Geller? Is “hate” fungible?
The bit about Breivik admitting that his atrocities were designed to stigmatize the Counter Jihad Movement, and protect his Nazi friends, is something that should be right up the SPLC’s alley.
The source for this information comes from Expo, which was started by Stig Larson, and is part of an international network of anti-racist/anti-fascist organizations, that includes Britain’s “Searchlight”, and Leonard Zeskind’s “Institute for Research & Education of Human Rights”, and is comparable to the SPLC.
It is very difficult for me to accept the SPLC did not hear about something that has to do with Nazis.
This is Mark Potok explaining how impossible it is to quantify hate, and yet, that is exactly what he does. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4662915
Here is my video pointing out numerous embarrassments in an SPLC report about Pamela Geller. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57xRLJzaxMU
Please take note that the video shows that it is not just me, but that the SPLC has been criticized clear across the political spectrum. Many people have noticed the money, and prestige of this self serving group.
The SPLC wants to contract with the government so they can tell people who to hate in a way that brings to mind the Searchlight/UAF connection to the British government.
The SPLC is getting old. Like a bad comb over, they have to cover-up for the fact there is no need for them anymore by making up things about Spencer/Geller, and pandering, in the most embarrassing way to, not just Muslims, but the Muslim Brotherhood groups. They wouldn’t know hate if it sat down beside them. They can’t even get the Nazi news right.
veggiedog says
Thanks for posting the youtube link….well done. Ms. Geller is right, there is nothing too small that each of us can do each day…. Without a voice all will be lost.
awake says
This is a curious move for the SPLC considering that recently, the Nation of Islam reiterated it’s belief about biblical destruction of every area not “dominated” by Islam by wheel-like planes in the sky…
“On Thursday night, Farrakhan spokeswoman Ava Muhammad said that African Americans needed to separate because eventually, “planes are going to destroy every area that is not dominated by Islam.” She said Detroit might be the city Nation of Islam members choose to migrate to in order to form their own community.”
http://www.freep.com/article/20140223/NEWS01/302230146/farrakhan-nation-islam-Joe-Louis-visit
This seems odd that the N.O.I. would call for a separation of judicial systems in the U.S. based on race, no?
veggiedog says
Why, we are in the midst of the most divisive political times in US history.
awake says
I guess I should have used the /sarc. tag… 🙂
Veracious_one says
When Louis Farrakhan speaks nothing but racism and hate come out…
Tim Heekin says
The SPLC is imply following tried and true orders from the past, “We must hate, hatred is the basis of Communism.”……………Lenin
EYESOPEN says
The “Southern Poverty Law Center” is itself a HATE group; and should more appropriately be named the Southern Propaganda and Lies Campaign.
MARK TRAINA says
The SPLC has been providing cover for BLACK SAVAGES in PUBLIC SCHOOLS throughout AMERICA for over 40-years!
1) https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=HTg45g85WP0
2) http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=91408
Hey Mark POTOK, do you think that all the “KNOCKOUT WHITEYERS”, “POLAR BEAR HUNTERS” and “CRACKA SMACKAS” HATE WHITE PEOPLE?
In 2013, over 34,000 WHITE WOMEN were RAPED by BLACK MEN. Interestingly only 8-BLACK WOMEN were RAPED by WHITE MEN!
BLACK THUGS KILL nearly 40 of U.S. each and every day and SERIOUSLY INJURE another 1,800 of U.S. in our HOMES, our SCHOOLS, our PARKS and our BUSINESSES!
Now for the REST of the STORY:
WARNING this BLOG contains nothing POLITICALLY CORRECT – So LIBERALS BEWARE!
I was the DISCIPLINE FACILATOR in the JEFFERSON PARISH PUBLIC SYSTEM for years and years it was me who DECIDED who went to the ALTERNATIVE SCHOOLS – BLACK SAVAGES SIGNIFICANTLY – DISPROPORTUNATELY were the ones that I sent off to ALTERNATIVE SCHOOLS! Primarily because BLACK SAVAGES SIGNIFICANTLY – DISPROPORTUNATELY were the ones PERPATRATING the VIOLENT CRIMES on CAMPUSES!
FACT: In 2012, according to the UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT of JUSTICE – BLACKS were 63-times more likely to perpetrate a VIOLENT CRIME against a WHITE PERSON than VICE-VERSA – so why would the RATE be any different within AMERICA’S SCHOOL SYSTEM! Actually the RATE of CRIMES being perpetrated by BLACK STUDENTS on WHITE STUDENTS was much higher than 63 to 1.
I fought with ZIONNISTS over at the SOUTHERN POVERTY LAW CENTER on a daily basis. Those LILY WHITE LYING LIBERAL BASSTURDS did everything possible to keep me from calling “A SPADE A SPADE” and doing what I needed to do to keep all of the STUDENTS SAFE in JEFFERSON PARISH.
SPLC STUDENT ADVOCATES and ATTORNEYS THREATENED to SUE me PERSONALLY on NUMEROUS OCCASIONS if I didn’t COMPLY with their LILY WHITE LYING LIBERAL POLITICALLY CORRECT ZIONNIST DEMANDS! They often DEMANDED that SCHOOLS IGNOR VIOLENT and extremely inappropriate BLACK STUDENT BEHAVIORS.
REGULAR TEACHERS, many of whom had over 30-STUDENTS in their CLASSROOM, were actually being INSTRUCTED to CONSTANTLY MONITOR and REWARD UNRULY TEACHERS were being FORCED to ALLOCATE all of their teaching time on UNRULY STUDNETS is in FACT, a VIOLATION of other WELL-BEHAVED and MOTIVATED STUDENT’S CIVIL RIGHT to a FREE, FAIR and SAFE PUBLIC EDUCATION.
Needless to say the SPLC and I ENJOYED a very CONTENTIOUS RELATIONSHIP, as for BACK UP from other SCHOOL SYSTEM EMPLOYEES – well there just wasn’t ANY, NONE, ZILCH!
As a SCHOOL SYSTEM EMPLOYEE, sadly, I often I could tell whether or not CENTRAL OFFICE ADMINISTRATORS were REPRESENTING the STUDENTS, TEACHERS or SCHOOL PRINCIPALS of the JEFFERSON PARISH PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM or the ZIONNISTS BASSTURDS over at the SOUTHERN POVERTY LAW SYSTEM.
The SPLC was constantly HARRASSING the JPPSS by DEFENDING the ACTIONS and BEHAVIORS of DANGEROUS and UNRULY BLACK STUDENTS – many of whom were CONVICTED VIOLENT FELONS!
The SPLC DEMANDED that these VILOENT BLACK STUDENTS remain on REGULAR SCHOOL CAMPUSES – no matter what kinds of VIOLENT and DANGEROUS BEHAVIORS they were EXHIBITING.
SCHOOLS in the JPPSS were being made UNSAFE by all of the ZIONNIST BULLIES over at the SOUTHERN POVERTY SCHOOL SYSTEM.
QUESTION: How many other PUBLIC SCHOOLS SYSTEMS were being BULLIED by the ZIONNIST SOUTHERN POVERTY LAW SINNER back then?
MORE IMPORTANT QUESTION: How many PUBLIC SCHOOLS SYSTEMS are being BULLIED by the ZIONNIST SOUTHERN POVERTY LAW CENTER right NOW, TODAY, at this very MOMENT?
Sadly, my GUESS is “TOO MANY TO COUNT”!
1) http://news.heartland.org/newspaper-article/2012/08/24/obama-executive-order-promotes-race-based-school-discipline
FACT: The SOUTHERN POVERTY LAW CENTER should SUE me if my ALLEGATIONS are UNTRUE.
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