Imam Musa wants to establish an Islamic State of America by 2050 and has called Iran’s Khamenei the “best leader in the world.” Nor is this the first time he has spread paranoid fantasies about “Islamophobia” in the Iranian press. But was even he able to keep a straight face when claiming that the U.S. government was waging “open warfare on Islam and Muslims”? The U.S. Muslim establishment plays the victimhood game very skillfully, but even they don’t make such wild claims.
“Top Ameican [sic] Imam: 9/11 used as ‘pretext’ to attack Muslims,” from Iran’s state-controlled Ahlul Bayt News Agency, February 23:
(Ahlul Bayt News Agency) – The September 11 attacks in the United States were used by the US government as a “pretext” to “declare open warfare on Islam and Muslims,” an American activist says.
“It’s totally illegal what the government is doing,” said Abdul Alim Musa, the director of Masjid Al-Islam in Washington, D.C., criticizing a federal judge’s dismissal of a lawsuit alleging the New York City Police Department illegally spied on Muslim Americans in New Jersey.
On Thursday, the court in Newark in the state of New Jersey ruled that the plaintiffs had failed to show that the NYPD’s intelligence unit had discriminated against Muslims by spying on mosques and other locations in the state.
The 2012 lawsuit was the first to challenge the NYPD’s spying operations against Muslim groups and individuals in the US. It had accused the police of spying on Muslims at several mosques, restaurants and schools since 2002.
“My belief is it’s a waste of time for Muslims to use all of their energy seeking justice in the United States courts,” Musa told Press TV on Saturday. “The United States court system is totally controlled by American Zionism and they’re not going to allow Muslims to gain any justice in that court system.”
Musa also said American Muslims and “the whole world is tired of US spying” after former National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden released thousands of classified documents on NSA global spying programs.
Champ says
No way! Wherever evil islam goes, hell follows.
America is home of the brave and land of the *FREE*, so islam has no rightful place here; in fact islam, and all it’s evil teachings, can go straight to hell.
veggiedog says
We need leaders from both parties not affiliated with Islam. But it seems left or right we can not trust any. Thank goodness i will be dead before 2050, but i fear for my daughter ant all the other youth, even if they are too blond to see the evil.
Chris Mullans says
If only.
Sharl Martal says
What a crack of shit
dumbledoresarmy says
Just common old Mohammedan projection and reversal of reality.
What *actually* happened on 9/11, was a successful mass-casualty Mohammedan sneak attack upon American home ground – something that the Nazis never achieved (and even Pearl Harbour, by the Japanese fascists, was not the same kind of thing as an assault upon the *Pentagon* in Washington – the Japanese did not dream of *that*); and as such it was the opening salvo in an accelerated and openly declared *Muslim* war upon the world’s richest and freest non-Muslim state and society. That is why Muslims the world over celebrated the attack on NYC and Washington with such frenzied ecstasy. And that is why, for example, half the world away in Australia, straight after 9/11, Vickie Janson noticed that her hitherto apparently-lax Muslima neighbour suddenly donned strict hijab and became much, much more aggressively Mohammedan.
duh_swami says
Total war huh…Does Rasool Obama know about this? it’s not total war, it’s just reacting to ‘workplace violence’ by a few limited drone attacks. Even in Afghanistan workplace violence is out of control, and there is no ‘total’ war going on to stop it. The US nearly stopped workplace violence in Iraq, but it started up again as soon as the US left. Workplace violence is common with Mahoundians, schools are attacked where teachers report for work, market places where vendors work are subject to it as well as shopping malls as in Kenya where people are employed, and there’s more where that came from.
Workplace violence must be stopped and if it takes all out war to stop it, that’s just the way the cookie crumbles.
Davegreybeard says
I’m giggling fer christ sake!
I’ll buy you a Negra Modello for that one, swami!
mortimer says
“The United States court system is totally controlled by American Zionism and they’re not going to allow Muslims to gain any justice in that court system.”
Oh, really? Does this mean he is going to move to Saudi Arabia and seek Sharia justice there? If so, I will contribute to his moving fees, if there is a no-return guarantee.
Clare says
Again going after law enforcement. A bit of set back for 2050, eh? And can I hear patriots say….. “Never. In hoc signo vinces.”
Jay Boo says
Muhammad’s loony recitations were a shameless PRETEXT
to declare genocide will claiming it is the will of Allah.
Gary says
9/11 was a message to the World because among those near 3000 civilains slaughtered by 15 Saudi’s (and 4 common village idiots) were people from over 60 previous nationalities. It was to inflict terror in the hearts of the unbelievers by showing that NO ONE is safe no matter where they live on Earth. islam will come to anywhere and slaughter anyone to claim the land for islam.
But , those that deny 9/11 WAS tied to islam and muslims must think that muslims were too stupid to have pulled it off , so it MUST have been those much superior Jooooz or infidels.
David Hamilton says
What percentage of Muslims so you think actually go for this stuff?
David Waldron says
Moderates tend to facepalm these guys much as Christians tend to facepalm around young earth creationists and guys who claim bad weather is caused by gays etc.
dumbledoresarmy says
I would hazard the guess that it’s an awful lot more than most head-in-the-sand non-Muslims the world over are currently prepared to believe.
David Hamilton says
What percentage of Muslims so you think actually go for this stuff?
David Waldron says
It is a dictatorship so what would you expect a dictatorial government’s to say. As far as Iranians believing in it, the government is very much on the nose in Iran for a long time. (Why it is a dictatorship and why the population vote for reformist candidates every time they get any access to voting at all, which is not often). As far as radical imams go, they get press time, like radical anything (I see a lot of christian facepalming at stuff out in their mouths by Pat Buchanan etc) and they serve as a focal point for angry alienated loners. You don’t tend to hear from average bod Muslims going about their daily job as they don’t have anything dramatic to say which will make people buy papers.
dumbledoresarmy says
I observe a new poster trying to pretend to us that jihad is not normative Islam.
For the benefit of any other new reader who may momentarily be confused by this claim, the following items may prove illuminating:
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/the-lesson-of-algeria-islam-is-indivisible-1566770.html
CONOR CRUISE O’BRIEN
Friday 6 January 1995
The lesson of Algeria: Islam is indivisible
‘“Fundamentalist Islam” is a misnomer which dulls our perceptions in a dangerous way.
‘It does so by implying that there is some other kind of Islam, which is well disposed to those who reject the Koran.
‘There isn’t.
‘Islam is a universalist, triumphalist and political religion. It claims de jure dominion over all humanity; that is God’s [that is, “allah”‘s – dda] will. The actual state of affairs, with unbelievers of various sorts dominating most of the world, is a suspension of God’s will and a scandal to the faithful. The world is divided between the House of Islam and the House of War, meaning the rest of us.
“For more than two centuries now, the House of War has been in the ascendant, and the House of Islam has been abased.
“The remedy for this unnatural and intolerable state of affairs is jihad.
“Jihad is defined as “the religious duty imposed on all Muslims to wage war upon those who do not accept the doctrines of Islam”. The Prophet Mohamed himself not merely preached but waged jihad. God’s word, dictated to the Prophet and preached by him, is binding on all Muslims, and his example is their inspiration.
“In the glorious centuries of expansion, the jihad carried Islam from Arabia, to the west as far as the Atlantic; to the north as far as Vienna; to the south as far as the Sahara and down the east coast of Africa to Madagascar; and to the east across Persia and the Indian subcontinent into part of China and Indonesia.
“**What is going on today in the Muslim world is not the advent of some aberrant thing called Islamic fundamentalism but a revival of Islam itself – the real thing – which Western ascendancy and Westernised post-Muslim elites no longer have the capacity to muffle and control. The jihad is back.** {my emphasis – dda}.”
Click on the link, read the rest of it.
And Jacques Ellul, writing a foreword on “Jihad”, for Bat Yeor’s “The Decline of Eastern Christianity Under Islam”:
http://www.dhimmi.org/Foreword.html
“…a major, twofold fact transforms the jihad into something quite different from traditional wars, waged for ambition and self-interest, with limited objectives, where the “normal” situation is peace between peoples – war, in itself, constituting a dramatic event which must end in a return to peace.
“This twofold factor is first the religious nature, then the fact that war has become an institution (and no longer an “event”)…
“This war is a religious duty. It will probably be said that every religion in its expanding phase carries the risks of war, that history records hundreds of religious wars and it is now a commonplace to make this connection.
“Hence, religious passion is thus sometimes expressed in this manner.
“But it is, in fact, “passion” – it concerns mainly a fact which it would be easy to demonstrate does not correspond to the fundamental message of the religion.
“This disjuncture is obvious for Christianity.
“**In Islam, on the contrary, jihad is a religious obligation. It forms part of the duties that the believer must fulfil; it is Islam’s normal path to expansion. And this is found repeatedly dozens of times in the Koran. Therefore, the believer is not denying the religious message. Quite the reverse, jihad is the way he best obeys it.** {my emphasis – dda}.
” And the facts which are recorded meticulously and analyzed clearly show that the jihad is not a “spiritual war” but a real military war of conquest.
“It expresses the agreement between the “fundamental book” and the believers’ practical strivings.
“But Bat Ye’or shows that things are not so simple. Since the jihad is not solely an external war, it can break out within the Muslim world itself – and wars among Muslims have been numerous, but always with the same features.
“Hence, the second important specific characteristic is that the jihad is an institution and not an event, that is to say it is part of the normal functioning of the Muslim world..”.
dumbledoresarmy says
A little more, from French sociologist Jacques Ellul, a sober and knowledgeable observer:
“…the jihad is an institution in itself; that is to say, an organic piece of Muslim society. As a religious duty, it fits into the religious organization, like pilgrimages, and so on.
“However, this is not the essential factor, which derives from the division of the world in the (religious) thought of Islam.
“The world, as Bat Ye’or brilliantly shows, is divided into two regions: the dar al-Islam and the dar al-harb, in other words: the “domain of Islam” and “the domain of war”.
“The world is no longer divided into nations, peoples, tribes. Rather, they are all located en bloc in the world of war, where war is the only possible relationship with the outside world.
“The earth belongs to Allah and all its inhabitants must acknowledge this reality; to achieve this goal there is but one method: war.
“War, then, is clearly an institution, not just an incidental or fortuitous institution, but a constituent part of the thought, the organization and the structures of this world. Peace with this world of war is impossible.
“Of course, it is sometimes necessary to call a halt; there are circumstances where it is better not to make war. The Koran makes provision for this.
“But this changes nothing: war remains an institution, which means that it must resume as soon as circumstances permit…”.
dumbledoresarmy says
And to round things off, first, a classic article from an astute American who had done his homework, writing back in the early 1990s.
“From Cold War to “Guerra Fria””.
http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm/blog_id/26087
Monday, 22 February 2010
From The Annals Of Serendip: Patrick L. Moore
“There are five especially critical aspects about Islam’s doctrine of jihad which must be brought out to properly understand the significance of Islam as it relates to the United States and the West.
“In summary, the meaning of jihad in its primary sense is military and coercive;
“it is central to the universalist doctrine of the Islamic belief system;
“its operational aim is political domination of non-Islamic territories (i.e. rather than forced conversion); {although in actual Muslim practice forced conversions, even forced mass-conversions – literally at the point of the scimitar – have always been part of Islamic conquest – dda}
“it is offensive or aggressive in nature in the first instance (and not merely “defensive”);
“and, finally, jihad is continuous in character (i.e. pending the ultimate victory of the forces of Islam)…”
If you are new to this site, and this subject, then click on the link, read the rest of it; and then make a copy, and keep, and re-read, until you fully understand it.
Now, secondly, an essay by an ex-Muslim, one ‘Ali Sina’, on the subject of the much-vaunted “moderate Muslim”, whom David Waldron wants us to believe is in the vast majority, and pays never no mind to the preachings of a few, oh, so few (really??) jihad gang bosses:
http://formermuslimsunited.americancommunityexchange.org/2010/03/13/exposing-the-myth-of-moderate-islam/
‘Exposing the Myth of Moderate Islam
‘…I would like to remind the readers that virtually all Muslim terrorists come from a secular background.
“At one point they were just as “liberal” as Mr. Fatah is today until something happened in their lives and they turned to their faith.
‘Every “moderate” Muslim is a potential terrorist. The belief in Islam is like a tank of gasoline. It looks innocuous, until it meets the fire. For a “moderate” Muslim to become a murderous jihadist, all it takes is a spark of faith.
‘It is time to put an end to the charade of “moderate Islam.”
‘There is no such thing as moderate Muslim. Muslims are either jihadists or dormant jihadists – moderate, they are not.”…
And there’s this, also from Ali Sina, who rather than remain a “lax” Muslim, or become a Jihadi, chose the third path, truth, reality, and abandoned Islam altogether.
http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm/blog_id/50877
Thursday, 31 October 2013
Ali Sina: Peeling Back The Layers Of Taqiyya
Among other things, Ali Sina warns us that: “The most common form of taqiyah is when Muslims deny that certain Islamic behaviors have anything to do with Islam.”
Islofob IS-1 says
Any citizens here see a war on islam? No, not yet. We still think [ i.e. “leadership”] that islam can just come in, build the “churches” , start paying taxes, and live and let.
This great Republic will survive, but how many lives will be lost before the real spirit of this country takes no quarter, and rises to face the threat of islam?
When will the world see, and declare “enough is enough” ?
The followers of islam have yet to see how it will ever happen, but it will.