250 jihad warriors from Syria have already returned home and are plotting jihad mass murder attacks. No one, apparently, thought of keeping them out of the country; that honor the British reserve only for foes of jihad. In the coming months and years the British will reap the fruits of their craven appeasement of Islamic supremacist groups, and refusal to confront the bitter reality of the alignment of the many of the so-called “moderate” groups that the British government encourages and funds with Islamic jihad terror groups.
“Hundreds of British jihadis returning from fight in Syria spark terror alert after police and MI5 thwart Mumbai-style attack on London,” by Amanda Williams in the Daily Mail, February 16:
Hundreds of British jihadis have returned from fighting in Syria, sparking a terror alert in Britain.
Senior security officials have said that around 250 British based ‘extremist tourists’ have returned home, and are now suspected of wanting to carry out attacks here.
The figure is five times higher than previously thought and includes several ‘veterans’ who have fought in Afghanistan and Pakistan.
MI5 and police have already intercepted an alleged serious plot by jihadis returning from the war torn region last Autumn.
They were said to be planning a Mumbai-style gun attack on civilians in a crowded place, possibly London.
The returnees are now being monitored by the security services, The Sunday Times reports.
A senior Whitehall security official told paper: ‘Well over half of those who travelled out have come back.’
Last week it was announced that extremist videos which help to radicalise impressionable young men are to be blocked from the internet in the UK.
The Home Office is in talks with web companies to refuse access to violent films hosted overseas ‘at a network level’, MailOnline can reveal.
The plans for what will effectively be ‘cyber border controls’ have been drawn up by James Brokenshire, promoted to immigration minister at the weekend.
Ministers were spurred into action by the growing threat from jihadists in Syria.
Around 2,000 Europeans are thought to be fighting in Syria, including at least 200 known to the British security services.
It is feared that fighters returning to the UK will seek to radicalise young men in particular to launch terror attacks at home and abroad.
Anti-terror police and the Crown Prosecution Service can currently demand that vile videos posted on UK websites be removed.
Since February 2010, the Counter Terrorism Internet Referral Unit (CTIRU) has taken down more than 21,000 pieces of illegal terrorist online content.
If the CTIRU and prosecutors deem material to be illegal it can be blocked from parts of the public sector, including schools and hospitals but this does not extend to domestic users and filters can be turned off.
Last week, video footage capturing the final moments of a British suicide bomber’s life was released by a terrorist group in Syria.
The clip, recorded by the al-Qaeda-aligned group Jabhat al-Nusra, shows Abdul Waheed Majeed relaxing and smiling moments before he carried out the suicide attack, the first by a Briton.
In the ‘martydom’ video, the 41-year-old is seen wearing white Muslim robe while posing for photos with fellow soldiers and pointing up to the sky.
Married father of three Majeed is suspected of driving a lorry into a jail in Aleppo and detonating a bomb last week.
Officials have not confirmed the identity of the bomber amid reports that a UK jihadi, who used the name Abu Suleiman al-Britani, carried out the bombing.
Counter-terrorism officers have searched Majeed’s home in Crawley which is also the ex-home of schoolgirl Sarah Payne’s killer Roy Whiting, according to neighbours.
Majeed, known as Waheed, left Britain six months ago, telling his family he was going on a humanitarian mission to Syria.
Shane May says
every english facebook group is posting this.
luis says
well cameron will have a day once muslins attack his family than he will say to late
the problem is not muslins the quran is the idioligy to follow and bann from uk
David says
And every death to native Britains is DIRECTLY attributed to the holier than thou British governments (Blair & Cameron), who opened the gates to an ideology that has a 1400 year history of conflict with non Muslims.
vern says
I think that anybody who’s lost loved ones to one of these savages should be able to sue the pc leaders who let em in.
tod says
David Cameron said publicly that ”islam is a religion of peace” so it must be true!
He’s also on record saying that he doesn’t want UK to be ”a sea of white faces”.
He should be hanged until dead.
PJG says
No doubt he would have once said he would not like to seeTibet to be a sea of Tibetan faces. The Chinese invasion provided much-needed “diversity”.
Charli Main says
Why are these Muslim vermin being described as “Jihad Warriors” ?????
These low life scum are only good at gunning down or blowing up unarmed women and children in shopping malls, buses and trains.
Libra55 says
Exactly, they are vigilantes ( as every Muslim man woman and child can be used for) not warriors . They can be overcome with sudden jihad syndrome within minutes and start allahu akbaring anywhere at any time
Transmaster says
And I have friends in the UK who tell me they do not even have the right to defend themselves from such people. One was told by an unarmed “Copper” when asked about what to do if somebody breaks down his front door and the this “Cop” told him, Well you have a back door don’t you”. I keep thinking about Private Lee Rigby of the Royal Regiment of Fusiliers, I the US at least in my part of the US Michael Adebolajo, and Michael Adebowale would have been shot dead on the street. I know personally had I witness an assault such as this I and anyone else seeing this would have pulled our personal weapons and sent them to hell on the spot, if not me then the police when the arrived.
dumbledoresarmy says
re the attack on Lee Rigby.
I just keep wondering what would have happened if some non-Muslim Brit, while those two mohammedthugs were still occupied with allahu akbaring and hacking and chopping at Lee’s body, had picked up a couple of bricks or something else hard and heavy of suitable dimensions (hey, a can of beans or a bottle of something or a well-filled handbag ) and dotted them one with it, hard and accurately, wham! Wham! A couple of well-aimed throws might even have knocked them out so that they could be overpowered and disarmed.
What I’d like to know is exactly how many among the people present in the street at the time of that attack were Muslims, and how many were not.
Charli Main says
I can answer that for you DDA.
They would of been arrested by the police for a racially motivated attack. NO I am not joking!!!!!!
The number of people in Britain that get arrested for defending themselves or others against attacks by thugs is staggering.
You are expected to allow your self to be beaten to death until the police show up and intervene.
Jay Boo says
Ref to:
The returnees are now being monitored by the security services, The Sunday Times reports.
—————-
DEPORT (don’t just monitor them)
If your neighborhood becomes infested with diseased carrying rats you don’t monitor them to see if they will behave you remove them.
Jay Boo says
A solution to Islam’s Black Flag
Black Flag bug spray
http://www.blackflag.com/
Salah says
“They were said to be planning a Mumbai-style gun attack on civilians in a crowded place, possibly London.”
Chilling Words: actual phone intercepts between the Muslims killing indiscriminately in the name of Allah.
Never Forget Mumbai
http://crossmuslims.blogspot.ca/2010/06/never-forget-mumbai.html
Undaunted says
Things to look for…
http://freemendo.typepad.com/undaunted/2010/11/speculations.html
Things to consider doing…
http://freemendo.typepad.com/undaunted/2011/06/get-your-shit-in-one-bag.html
panther says
But India ‘hanged’ the lone surviving ‘Mumbai attack’ terrorist after fair trial.
Does UK have the balls to do the same???
I bet you even in USA they’ll not hang the dzhokhar tsarnaev the Boston Bomb terrorist or the nidal hassan the Fort Hook terrorist.
Not even one among the thousands of Guantanamo Bay detainees got death sentence, so we should assume all were innocent however just got caught in a football brawl.
Look at what Canadian govt. has done with that scum omar khadar & his family.
West has completely given to the mohammedan supremacy.
PJG says
But the ministers were “spurred into action”.
“Action” here means “worrying”, I suppose.
Know Thy Enemy says
@ panther
“But India ‘hanged’ the lone surviving ‘Mumbai attack’ terrorist after fair trial.”
I am afraid you underestimate how cunning India’s politicians are. The “lone surviving terrorist” (Ajmal Kasab) was not THE enemy. What does a 21 year old Pakistani know other than what he was taught by Muslims? The real enemy is Islam!
But Ajmal had a face. The politicians and media know that it is far easier and less risky to parade Ajmal’s face around and call him the ‘enemy’. They also knew that the stupid population will be satisfied with taking revenge from ‘a terrorist from Pakistan’. Their strategy worked flawlessly; they didn’t even have to indicate that there is more to who the enemy is.
If I were in-charge, I would simply have sent Ajmal back to Pakistan after his medical treatment. Your politicians fooled you impeccably. You may think you took your vengeance but the real enemy is safe and sound, and ready to hurt you again!
Know Thy Enemy says
Correction:
*and ready to hurt
youagain!panther says
“If I were in-charge, I would simply have sent Ajmal back to Pakistan after his medical treatment.”
And would you please elaborate how would that have worked in defeating ‘the enemy/islam’??? Letting go a murderer, without deserving punishment doesn’t sounds any good.
“Your politicians fooled you impeccably. You may think you took your vengeance but the real enemy is safe and sound, and ready to hurt you again!”
FYI. I am not an Indian, nothing to do with their politics or politcians.
“The “lone surviving terrorist” (Ajmal Kasab) was not THE enemy. What does a 21 year old Pakistani know other than what he was taught by Muslims? The real enemy is Islam!”
Agreed, Islam is the enemy but moslems are it’s soldiers. How could you defeat the enemy without destroying it’s soldiers???
Or you agree with the western treatment of moslem terrorists, where they award them millions in compensation & let them stay & spew hatred in their countries for rest of their lives?? Read about ‘Mehar Arar’ the convicted al-qaida terrorist who was awarded 12 million for his confinement in Syria. Now there are 40 other convicted moslem terrorists in the queue who have sued Canadian govt. for compensation. More to come once omar khaddar is released from the jail.
So that’s the kind of treatment you want for terrorists & murderers and still hope to defeat the enemy/islam???
RodSerling says
panther,
“Read about ‘Mehar Arar’ the convicted al-qaida terrorist who was awarded 12 million for his confinement in Syria.”
Suspected, not convicted. A thorough investigation found that he was not involved with al-Qaeda.
panther says
“A thorough investigation found that he was not involved with al-Qaeda.”
Is al-Qaeda the only Islamic terrorist organisation???
And, he was cleared of the charges only in Canada dues to political pressure, he still stands convicted of terrorism charges in US.
panther says
Correct me if I am wrong.
Maher Arar, along with another Canadian terrorist ahmed khaddar (father of omar khaddar), attended several terrorist training camps in Pakistan run by al-Qaeda & Taliban. That time he was already under RCMP radar. He was arrested in US & sent to Syria. Where he was arrested by Syrian police. Some information regarding his terror ties & training was passed over by RCMP to Syrian authorities, where he admitted his role with various terrorist organisations and attendance in terrorist training camps for the purpose of waging a war against sunni Syrian govt. Subsequently for some unknown reasons he was released form Syrian prison (perhaps, of some political pressure from Canadian politicians as happened in the case of ahmed khaddar whom Jean Chretien, then Canadian PM, got released from a Pakistani jail). He was never charged or convicted in Canada. On his return to Canada with some support from liberal politicians & moslem organisation he sued Canadian govt. settled out of court and got compensated for the torture he suffered in Syrian prison.
He got released, like ahmed khadar, just under some political pressure from various moslem organisations & liberal politicians and not because he didn’t participated in any terrorist activities or didn’t had any ties with them. Here, I don’t see how anybody could still consider him innocent.
Know Thy Enemy says
@panther
“And would you please elaborate how would [sending Ajmal back] have worked in defeating ‘the enemy/islam’??? ”
As I mentioned, Indians fell for the lies that their pols and media told them. Ajmal was the enemy they were told. He was hanged, the people got their vengeance. These satisfied people went back to sleep in their la-la land, the leaders went back to ruling them. Everything worked out fine for everyone! Or did it?
The act of sending Ajmal back would have been a message to Islam followers that I am full aware of who the real enemy is and who was simply brainwashed by the enemy! Then I would have actually named this enemy- Islam that is, and promised to deal with everyone who supports it, just as communists were dealt with in the US!
If by some miracle I become president of US, the first thing I will do is to send Dzhokhar back to his mother in Chechnya safe and sound. I will do it for the same reason as above.
“Agreed, Islam is the enemy but moslems are it’s soldiers. How could you defeat the enemy without destroying it’s soldiers???”
OK, one naïve soldier is dead. Add to that a handful of other jihadis who die in India every month. So how safe are Indians now (and westerners too)? Answer: They are not! They keep dying at the hands of jihadis, their women keep falling victims to love-jihad, they keep having to pay jizya, and whatever they do they keep needing to be careful that they don’t offend Muslims. The enemy keeps getting more and more powerful everywhere!
Why is all this going on when so many soldiers of Allah are killed in India (and elsewhere) every month? Why are westerners treating terrorists the way you explained in your last paragraph? Correct answer: Because they (Indians and westerners) refuse to call them ‘soldiers of Allah’. They call them ‘terrorists from Pakistan’ or ‘misguided people’ or ‘misunderstanders of Islam’ etc etc. They refuse to correctly name the enemy.
Therefore, destroying the enemy’s soldiers is NOT the first thing that one should be doing. The first and most important thing is to correctly identify the enemy. Only then should one look into the next steps including who to ‘destroy’!
joeb says
The British police said in January that jihadists returning from Syria would be arrested at the port of entry.
But not one single person has been arrested. Expect this to continue, and expect more terrorist attacks by muslims in the future.
At the IRA’s peak, there were thought to be around 1300 men or so in total. There were probably around 30 in England. This is 250, and these are the ones they admit to, plus at least, I’d estimate, thousands more who would pick up arms given the opportunity.
tod says
Arresting them would be ”islamophobic” and ”racist”.
tpellow says
Britain’s political class, (including ‘leftist’ media of BBC-Guardian-Mirror-Independent) is still committed to a.)mass immigration from Islamic countries, which ensures b.) infiltration by Islamic jihadists; the British government does not make the obvious connection between the two phenomena, and censors out the role of Islamic tenets in motivating sharia and jihad; and still, UK’s political class is still committed to entry into E.U of 80 million Muslims from Islamizing Turkey.
PJG says
I think they DO make the connection, but they have sold their souls to the devil. Their own children are at risk, but these politicians have become ghouls.
tpellow says
Supplementary.
“Syria terror threat a big problem for UK” –
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-26214793
mortimer says
David Cameron errant STUPIDITY in saying the Lee Rigby JIHAD ATTACK had NOTHING TO DO WITH ISLAM…shows the arrogance of politicians who are know-it-alls and have NEVER STUDIED ISLAM IN ANY WAY!
Islam is ALL ABOUT jihad…Mohammed said jihad is the ‘original religion’ of Islam.
Because the Home Office did not CANCEL the PASSPORTS of these jihadists, MANY INNOCENT INDIGENOUS BRITONS WILL DIE.
Thanks Mr. Know-it-all-about-Islam CAMERON. When the jihadists start bombing UK, don’t dare tell us it has NOTHING TO DO WITH ISLAM! Jihadwatch bloggers have read the original documents of Islam…UNLIKE CAMERON who is GUESSING and BLUFFING HIS WAY.
Bettina says
Testing
islamisdeath says
“Last week it was announced that extremist videos which help to radicalise impressionable young men are to be blocked from the internet in the UK.”
Well there you go problem solved. ” Impressionable young men” will no longer be led astray. Lets move on now./sarc;off
That disgusting sea of white faces is about to be erradicated how happy Cameron must be. Cameron has a white face wonder how this will affect him.
dumbledoresarmy says
They should fuggedabout the videos and websites and instead…shut down the mosques and deport the imams, sheikhs, etc.
The mosques are the command-and-control centres, military bases, recruitment-for-jihad offices, safe houses, arsenals, and bomb-and-explosive factories.
All one has to do, to understand this, is to read ex-Muslim Sam Solomon’s “The Mosque and Its Role in Society”.
Mosques and madrasas should not be permitted in any non-Muslim country. For that matter, Muslim immigration of any kind should not be permitted: since as Sam Solomon (again) points out in his other very useful book, “Al Hijra: The Islamic Doctrine of Immigration”, the Ummah has *always* used infiltration-and-subversion to seize control of “turf”.
KrazyKafir says
Civil war…..tick….tick…..tick….
PJG says
Krazy Kafir: Where where the civil wars of the 57 countries which became Islamic?
Sudan had a civil war over Islam, but the result was the division of the country, and even the “non-Muslim” part is infested with Muslims.
I’m not sure of my history, but has a country undergoing Islamisation had a civil war which has resulted in defeat of the Muslims and everything going back to normal?
Defcon 4 says
Has any country which failed to resist islam0nazism ever returned to normal? If you don’t try, you’ll never know.
PJG says
I know what you mean, and I certainly don’t mean we should not try, but I am curious because of the examples I am aware of are insufficient. India was really messed up by Islam and then the British arrived to confuse them more. Southern Sudan went through such a long, messy war resisting jihad that “normality” is elusive, which is why I feel such sympathy for them; they fought back at huge cost…but they were partially Islamised in the process (it might fade away in time). I see something of an Islamisation process all around me: people used to be utterly horrified when hearing about beheadings, but now they hardly blink an eye; also, fussy Muslim habits are becoming normalised in people’s minds, and their haughty view of themselves as superior is gaining traction. Contempt is a powerful tool: it is easy to absorb other people’s contempt of you.
Anyway, i need to get onto my history reading. There was Charles Martel, of course, but he didn’t have the British Government to contend with, or the EU.
voegelinian says
Spain is a good example — both in its initial vim and vigor in reconquering its own land from occupying Muslims and in its diligence in ferreting out double agents through the Inquisition.
Alas, after a century, the Spanish acquired that curious mixture of amnesia and PTSD that afflicts all lands traumatized and terrorized over time by Muslims, and the Spanish largely forgot about Muslims who continue relentlessly to attack Europeans throughout the very important Mediterranean — and then, as ex-Muslims (second and third generation) fomented a bloody jihad rebellion amongst indigenous Spanish who had believed were genuine ex-Muslims. This surprise revolt was so fierce, it caused the King of Spain to have to divert all his energies and resources to quell it, even while Christians were being attacked all up and down the Mediterranean and many were pleading for help from Spain, at the time (16th-17th century) the most powerful Western polity.
Much to learn from that long epoch of the Spanish crucible.
KrazyKafir says
I see no other way for them to save themselves, and it won’t be the indigenous English starting it, it will be the moslems once their numbers are great enough that they first start demanding autonomous zones and then independent states. Think of an Israel model.
PJG says
Autonomous zones? Of course they will be being disingenuous. I think we should give them such zones smartly. Zones of our choice. No electricity, no water provisions. No welfare. No justice system and jails: they can all stone each other if they like. No banks, except for their own. No hospitals: they can build their own. No supermarkets; likewise. Fenced communities with no way out except apostasy, and that to be strictly monitored. They can weave their own cloth and grow their own sorghum (or whatever). I don’t know how we could keep the Saudi money away from them, but it could be done. Let’s give them what they want…Islam, Islam and more Islam (oh, and no music…they can bang drums for fun.)
KrazyKafir says
I couldn’t agree more, PJG but the invaders have allies in the British population that would prevent such a move.
voegelinian says
Autonomous zones are an Islamic invention: the vilayets of the Ottoman Empire. And a stepping-stone to the further supremacist aggrandizement they have up their long flowing sleeves.
BlueRaven says
Mombay style Op will require a certain type of training and lots of machine guns. Those SOBs were trained by the Pakistani army and they had military training with MIL grade weapons. I doubt the Syrian returnies SOBs brought with them the required arson – the UK police would have nabbed them easily, if that was the case. They will most likely plan a kind of “Beslan school massacre” where simple type of amu was used with the casualties close to 400 people. No doubt something like that is going to happen in the UK before the human rights law are ammended. They will demand all the UK troops to return home. If the UK Government caves into their demand, then time to say “bye bye Britain” for good for those who live in that country.
Bezelel says
It doesn’t take a fortuneteller to what’s coming.
Davegreybeard says
RE: jeob
“…plus at least, I’d estimate, thousands more who would pick up arms given the opportunity.”
It really IS time to work a little harder at education our soldier types as to the enemy we face – we may need them sooner than you think.
Met a couple of young Israeli men the other day when I was having my garage door fixed. I figured I was paying for their time, so I talked to them about Islam and Muhammad while they worked.
I was astonished at their lack of knowledge of the fate of the three Jewish tribes in Medina after Muhammad died. They were even a little fuzzy on what a Hadith was or “The Sirat Rasul Allah.”
So I began with Muhammad in Mecca preaching for 13 years and gaining 100 or so followers and finished by handing them a copy of my “improved” leaflet.
The leaflet is two sided and 8 X 14. One side is the story of Muhammad, “The Model of Conduct” and the other side is split between the core tenets of Islam and selected verses of the Quran.
The discussion was particularly satisfying in that I could tell they were interested as they would ask me to repeat things they missed due to the noise of their tools. As I went through the history, mentioning names such as Rayhana and Safiya, (both of whom Muhammad raped) I could occasionally see a flash of recognition as if they’d heard the name before.
So, talk to your soldiers, cops and first responders – they’re the ones that are gonna need to know Islam first anyway.
davegreybeard says
Dave – that’s terrific! Well done! And as an Old Soldier yourself, you would have “street cred” with these young Israelis who would have done their stint in the IDF.
Here’s something more to keep up your sleeve, if you encounter any more Israelis (or Jews in your part of the world who are Israeli supporters):
http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/06/why_islam_will_never_accept_th.html
Why Islam Will Never Accept the State of Israel
By Steven Simpson, THE AMERICAN THINKER June 30 2010
and the inimitable Hugh Fitzgerald, formerly often contributing here, has this to say:
http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm/blog_id/48088
Sunday, 17 March 2013
Fitzgerald: Stop This Naive Talk About “Two Peoples” and About a “Solution”
dumbledoresarmy says
Ooops. Absent-mindedly wrote name as ‘davegreybeard’ rather than dumbledoresarmy when putting my reply to davegreybeard’s very encouraging post, above! Sorry for the confusion.
RodSerling says
dda,
Technical note/suggestion: When we transitioned to the new system, I found signing in and creating a new password easier. You can either reclaim your old account or start a new one. It doesn’t take long. That way, once you are set up, all you have to do is log in, and remain logged in to make multiple comments, without having to write out your moniker and email each time.
dumbledoresarmy says
Something else from Hugh Fitzgerald. Should be required reading for every non-Muslim in Israel, and in many other places, but especially in Europe, and the Anglosphere. *Every* Western politician and journalist should be *made* to read it, several times, before they are allowed anywhere near Israel.
http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm/blog_id/51955
Saturday, 15 February 2014
Fitzgerald: The Arab-Israeli Conflict: Nationalism or Jihad?
[re-posted from November 15, 2012 andJuly 2, 2006]
Porky's2istan says
“…extremist videos which help to radicalize impressionable young men are to be blocked from the internet in the UK.”
Funny, when they talked about this last month it was ISLAMOPHBIC websites that would be blocked. So goodbye TROP, BNI, GoV, JW, and CS in Britain.
“Extremist”, seems to have a very different meaning in Europe.
Davegreybeard says
“…the fate of the three Jewish tribes in Medina after Muhammad died. ”
Should read “…after Muhammad ARIVED.”
Davegreybeard says
PJG,
The example you seek is the Reconquista.
Islamists invaded Spain and pushed the Christians into a tiny kingdom on the northern coast. Christian kingdoms eventually united and in 1492 pushed the last of the Muslims out – took over 700 years, but they did it.
Semeru says
Yep, and the way things are going it looks like the mohammedans will be back after 600 years
dumbledoresarmy says
And does that bother you?
tpellow says
Supplementary.
“Extremists return to Britain after waging jihad”
http://www.scotsman.com/news/uk/extremists-return-to-britain-after-waging-jihad-1-3308673
What Britain’s political class has provided for the British people. And continues to enable: Muslim sharia enforcers and Islamic jihadists.
Pam M says
It’s not actually true that no one thought of keeping these jihadists out. If one reads the British press reports about Syria one will find hundreds of comments all urging just that. The problem is that no one in government has the backbone to do what everyone knows needs doing. Between them they have less spine than the average amoeba. It’s not just in Britain though as the same is true for every other Western country.
Within twenty years there will be internal conflict in every West European country. I hesitate to call them civil wars because that is not what they will be. Instead they will be wars between the indigenous people and the islamic invaders. America is heading down the same path, particularly under the jihadist in chief, but is perhaps a generation behind Europe.
tod says
Pam, you’re living in a fantasy land.
The brainwashing is so complete (in Britain at least) that the last indigenous white man will still be apologising for the mess when his throat is being cut.
The vast majority of British people don’t care. Nobody cares about the atrocious treatment of livestock in halal slaughterhouses, FGM, suicide-bombings (7/7), paedophile gangs, women’s rights etc. etc.
In fact, organisations set-up to combat the right (such as ”Unite Against Facism”) are full of gays and women.
Mosques are popping-up on a daily basis. Go ANYWHERE in UK and you’ll see swaithes of unemployed hijabis with 5 kids.
Nobody cares.
Pam M says
It simply is not true that you’ll see swarms of hijabis anywhere in the UK. Get outside of the major cities and you won’t see any Muslims at all. They are highly concentrated in certain areas of large towns. Even in those towns there are many parts where you won’t find any Muslims. What you have in Britain, and indeed throughout Europe is total segregation. You have parallel communities, sometimes living just a few streets apart, between which there is less communication than there was across the Berlin Wall.
If you think that Europe will just succumb to Islam without a murmur then think again. It will end in bloodshed and mass slaughter. The only reason why so little violence has happened so far is because the vast majority of people have not yet been affected, partly because of the segregation referred to earlier. Most European countries have Muslim populations in the 5-10% range, which is too low for overt jihadist warfare. When they reach about 20%, which is about a generation away, then we will see a different picture.
Groups like UAF are irrelevant as they’re just government sponsored brownshirt thugs. You can always find a few hundred unwashed Trotskyites who are happy to throw bricks at people, especially when they know that the police will turn a blind eye. In Britain today you have total disillusionment with the political process. The main parties all say the same; all politicians are regarded as crooks and thieves, and elections are rigged by massive fraud. People are disengaging from mainstream politics, but still remain intensely political. Fringe parties, such as UKIP, are finding their support rocketing all across Europe. That wouldn’t happen if, as you claim, no one cared. The next few years are going to be very interesting.
tod says
You are woefully out of touch regarding the feelings of Europeans. The ONLY anti-islam party in the UK receives very little votes.
Davegreybeard says
So in this new JW format, comments are inserted IN THE MIDDLE of the thread if one “replies” to a comment?
Very confusing.
voegelinian says
I don’t know if this nonce-commenter “Pam M” just had an inadvertent spasm, or cleverly embedded an indictment of a potential for genocidal backlash by the West in the future:
If you think that Europe will just succumb to Islam without a murmur then think again. It will end in bloodshed and mass slaughter.
Either way, it is not only extremely unhelpful to the cause of the Counter-Jihad — for it only tends to reinforce the “Holocaust Meme” the PC MCs use against us (to wit, that we are itching to ethnically cleanse those Brown Muslims). And besides, there is no indication the West would “slaughter” Muslims nor desire to. What we may be forced to do simply to defend innumerable innocent lives of our own is to fight Muslims whom we have stupidly allowed to settle deep within our lands by the millions (with millions more by the time, several decades from now, we begin finally to stop hitting the snooze alarm and actually WTFU) — and such fighting in self-defense, of course, will likely involve killing; but not “slaughter” as “Pam M” has so carefully worded it.
Another tragically counter-productive effect of such reckless (or calculated) language: it tends to reinforce the Western sense of an inevitable binary dilemma of Either/Or: Either we “slaughter” Muslims or they will win. There is, however, a third option: kick the sumbitches out of our lands and deposit them unceremoniously anywhere in the vast real estate of the Dar-al-Islam, and let their Muslim brothers (who cares what nations we deposit them into, for according to Muslims, all Muslims are one trans-national family, right?).
voegelinian says
A dangling unfinished thought there in my last post:
“…and let their Muslim brothers (who cares what nations we deposit them into, for according to Muslims, all Muslims are one trans-national family, right?) take care of them.”
Davegreybeard says
And since comments are inserted IN THE MIDDLE of the thread, and one has no idea WHEN comments might be posted, it means that one must constantly REREAD THE ENTIRE THREAD to find anything new.
How is this an improvement on the “old” system of simply looking to the end of the thread for new comments/replies?
Personally, I prefer things to be “nailed down”. What we have now is an amorphous mass of conversation that unpredictably sprouts appendages at random times and locations.
I find it a bit crazy – anyone else having trouble with this?
Davegreybeard says
For instance, I can mess with my good buddy Hesp by inserting my comment here.
dumbledoresarmy says
Defeatist.
And utterly false, to say “NOBODY cares”. That is a wild generalisation. I know it’s false.
A comment like that helps nobody; if anything, it spreads negativity and therefore risks becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy. What’s more, it feeds right into the obscene mohammedan triumphalism of the many Enemy operatives who lurk and read here. Do you *really* want them to hear you saying stuff like that?
What are *you* doing? Anything at all? If you do *nothing* then *you* are part of the problem.
If you attend a church: join the Barnabas Fund’s “Operation Nehemiah”…and ask your vicar to hold a “Beating the Bounds” ceremony round the boundaries of the parish, come Rogationtide. (Look up “Beating the Bounds” – it’s an old English custom that, I think, could be very cleverly parleyed into a morale-building and territorial-reclamation effort). Similarly: the dear old patriotic Royal Society of St George could be joined en masse by all those who worry about Britain’s grave peril, and turned thereby into a means of cultural and political re-assertion.
Then there’s the Mosquebusters – Gavin Boby’s “Law and Freedom Foundation”. At least donate a few pounds to *them*. They *do* make a difference.
Look around. There are things you *can* do, however small. Every little bit helps.
RodSerling says
Panther,
Again, Arar wasn’t convicted of anything. The U.S. (rightly, I believe) considers him a security risk, probably because of his technical knowledge combined with his connections to others associated with people involved in al-Qaeda. But the evidence required to show that someone is a risk (i.e., could be dangerous) is much less than is required to show that someone is in fact guilty of being involved in a some crime or terrorist organization. Merely being named by others, especially if he was named under torture, does not constitute solid evidence.
Arar seems suspicious, given his associations. But to my knowledge there is no reliable or solid evidence of him being involved in any terrorist organizations or operations. If you have evidence, please cite or provide link.
RodSerling says
Panther,
“Here, I don’t see how anybody could still consider him innocent.”
I didn’t say Arar was innocent; that too would require solid evidence, and credible explanations, to establish. I said he wasn’t convicted. To my knowledge, there is no solid evidence that he was involved with al-Qaeda or any other terrorist groups.