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Black South African explains why Israel is not an apartheid state

Mar 1, 2014 1:11 pm By Robert Spencer

A man who suffered under real apartheid explodes the Leftist/Islamic supremacist libel that Israel is an apartheid state.

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  1. Peter Buckley says

    Mar 1, 2014 at 1:30 pm

    Nice one. Since it is “Islamophobes” who are usually demonized as “racist” or “Zionist”, this is interesting. Can I suggest this video be forwarded by all available means, including social networks, to all those in the West who have been fooled by Palestinian propaganda.

  2. Champ says

    Mar 1, 2014 at 2:17 pm

    test

  3. Champ says

    Mar 1, 2014 at 3:16 pm

    Great video! …and what a brave man for speaking the Truth, too.

  4. duh_swami says

    Mar 1, 2014 at 3:19 pm

    Well, that’s pretty clear isn’t it? I have read all kinds of poisonous remarks about Israel and Jews, that were patently false and malicious.
    It’s good to see this man refute one of the big lies and set the record straight…

  5. Wellington says

    Mar 1, 2014 at 4:33 pm

    A good man, a brave man, who speaks the truth. Bravo.

    And shame on ALL those who continue a most malicious lie that Israel is an apartheid state. I have nothing but contempt for such people.

  6. miriam rove says

    Mar 1, 2014 at 4:47 pm

    well said, well spoken and the truth. all in one.m

  7. Brian C. Hoff says

    Mar 1, 2014 at 5:30 pm

    Then why are there arabs in Israel pirson.

    • miriam rove says

      Mar 1, 2014 at 5:53 pm

      what? m

      • Brian C. Hoff says

        Mar 1, 2014 at 6:12 pm

        He was in pirson for armed rebellian against the South Africa government of that time.

        • Aardvark says

          Mar 2, 2014 at 6:01 am

          Than ayrabs are in pirson for armed rebellian against Western Civilisation.

          Why did you change your name from Defender-Of-Islam to an anagram of ‘Inch of Barf’?

    • Kepha says

      Mar 2, 2014 at 4:25 pm

      Because, Brian, they committed things like murder, arson, vandalism, theft, bombing, etc. Why are there Dashnaks in Turkish prisons?

  8. mortimer says

    Mar 1, 2014 at 6:00 pm

    Very articulate. Facts are powerful. Muslims lose every debate, because they cannot provide facts to support their arguments. Muslim apologists merely have claims or slogans without evidence or proof. Once their claims are compared with facts, they are seen to be false.

    Why they think people are too dumb to see the lies…well, it’s beyond me. But more and more are seeing the Islamic hoax all the time…especially those who are leaving Islam.

    • Salah says

      Mar 2, 2014 at 12:23 am

      @mortimer
      “But more and more are seeing the Islamic hoax all the time…especially those who are leaving Islam.”

      And when they do, they tear up the Qur’an, burn it and urinate on it!

      http://crossmuslims.blogspot.ca/2014/01/egyptian-muslims-tear-up-quran.html

      • anthony Rose says

        Mar 3, 2014 at 6:56 am

        Spencer like most attempt to read a permanent jihad running from hoary ages to now a narrative that claims current issue can only be solved by attacking a straw man ‘Islam’. Very little thinking is required, emotion is paramount and propaganda (a discredited from of communication) is King. Shame Mr Spencer.

    • anthony Rose says

      Mar 3, 2014 at 6:48 am

      What? You facts never just speak for themselves, especially when they are distorted and used to exploit the 911 to marginlise Muslims. I have debated many so-called defenders of ‘Western Civilisation’ They are the deluded ones, stirring up hatred and confusion.

  9. Wellington says

    Mar 1, 2014 at 6:29 pm

    Arab Muslims (emphasis here on the Muslim element and not the Arab one) who are in Israeli prisons, Brian C. Hoff, are overwhelmingly there because they seek the utter destruction of the Israeli state—–and every country has the right to self-preservation, yes even Israel, a nation which I’m sure you think should have never come into being in the first place. Meanwhile, Israeli Arabs enjoy more freedoms than do Arabs in any of the over twenty Arab nations. This is yet another reality (Muslims functioning in a world of fiction as they do) which I’m sure you will not address. But hey, Nimrod, prove me wrong on this one and actually address the fact that Israeli-Arabs enjoy liberty in a way that no Arab in any Arab-majority nation does. I know you won’t, at least in no remotely honest way.

    Be gone if you can’t contribute more to this site, which to date you have not. But, I’ll give you this much and here it is: You have made as good an argument against Israel as any Muslim has. The trouble here though is that no argument against Israel by Muslims (and their clueless dhimmi supporters) amounts to anything at all.

    How fitting since Islam is the one major religion which can’t argue effectively at all. No, it can’t. It can only seek victim-status, make threats aplenty, function in parasitical mode, use actual violence to get its way, appeal to weak-minded and uninformed non-Muslims for sympathy and support, et al. Truly, what a massive excuse for a religion Islam is. No religion supersedes Islam in this category. None. Not even remotely.

  10. richard sherman says

    Mar 1, 2014 at 10:50 pm

    Obama, Hillary Clinton, Micaharl Moore, Sean Penn and All Queda will ignore the truth in this article in order in order to support the foundational antisemitism of their souls.

  11. ProfU says

    Mar 2, 2014 at 1:20 am

    It is great to see a black South African standing up for Israel.
    It is very sad that the “meme” of Israel as apartheid spreads irrespective of its truth value. Israel does not have a shred of apartheid in it. Israeli Arabs have the best living conditions and human rights of any country in the middle east. Israel is the most enlightened nation I have every visited and that includes my home, the USA.

  12. Sumit says

    Mar 2, 2014 at 4:08 am

    The real apartheid states in the world today are the Muslim states like Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Bahrain, Iran, Oman, Yemen. These are the countries practicing strict Sharia and non-Muslims do not have basic rights in those country. Several others follow partial apartheid. Almost all Islamic states follow some kind or other of apartheid. The sooner the world realizes this, the better it will be for world peace and human rights.

  13. judy silver-shapiro says

    Mar 2, 2014 at 1:45 pm

    The BDS-Boycott Divest Sanction movement is ANTI SEMITIC, and spends its time attempting to DEMONIZE the JEWISH Homeland and accuse her of the apartheid LIE. They are emboldened by this sitting US Pres SON-OF-ISLAM obama whose constant lectures and pressure on ISRAEL ISOLATEs her more. However, because ISRAEL is a high-tech giant today, and finding cures for some of mankind’s most deadly debillitating diseases, the world depends on her and JEWISH brains.
    Saudi, Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Hizbolla Lebanon, Turkey, and the rest of the 1.6 BILLION muslim populated countries are truly the real practitioners of apartheid NOT ISRAEL.

  14. Curious mind says

    Mar 4, 2014 at 6:30 pm

    Well – one can safely assume that his paycheck was a handsome one. If anyone is desecrating the memory of Madiba Nelson and his struggle for freedom as well as the struggle of millions of Black South Africans then it is this “gentleman” with his “wishful thinking” (to be polite).

    How anybody in the right frame of mind can say that Israel is not an Apartheid state full well knowing that some 23% of the people under Israeli jurisdiction are denied the most basic human rights is beyond me!

    There are roads marked “For Jews only” – this is what exactly …? There are settlements inside Israel proper for Israeli Jews only; Israeli non-Jews (Christians as well as Muslims) are denied residence – they can’t rent and/or buy property there. And so on and so forth.

    Archbishop Desmond Tutu has a well earned reputation that he is not for sale to anybody no matter how moral the motive of the offerer. He has lived through Apartheid and fought against and he says that Israel’s Apartheid is WORSE THAN S.A.’s ever was.

    Listen to Jeff Halper (ICAHD) who lives in Israel and is a non-self-hating Jew (NOT a Zionist!) on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvCcFxOIipU what he has to say. No Apartheid?? You must be kidding!! Also read his “Matrix of Control” and you may begin to understand how much Israel is an Apartheid state:

    http://icahd.org/eng/publications.asp

    OBSTACLES TO PEACE
    A CRITICAL RE-FRAMING OF THE ISRAELI-PALESTINIAN CONFLICT

    Written and Presented by
    Jeff Halper, Coordinator
    The Israeli Committee Against House Demolitions (ICAHD)

    And let’s not forget the Jewish women segregation – ever heard of the 33 bus lines inside Israel where Jewish women have to sit in the back very much like Rosa Park in the US? Where the sidewalks are segregated – one side for Jewish men and one side for Jewish women? One entrance for men – another for women? One line for men in supermarkets at the cashier – another one for women? Ah no … this is gender discrimination by the Hasidic Taliban of Israel – I get it!

    • JSS says

      Mar 14, 2014 at 4:28 am

      I lived in Israel for two years. Religious fanatics like the Hasidic people are largely disliked by most Israelis and they stay to themselves. In the two years I lived there, the only segregation of women I experienced was at the Kotel. Then, again, I did not live in Bene Beraq or some other such Orthodox place. Most Jews, however, are secular in Israel and women are treated much better than they are in Muslim countries. Israel has very strict laws against even verbal abuse as domestic violence. Name one such Muslim country please?
      Second, while I do not agree with much of Israeli policy, to state horrible things about Israel and ignore that most Muslim countries are ten times worse to their people and their minorities is one sided. I met many Jews from Arab countries whose families had been persecuted for centuries in Arab countries and massacres were common place.
      Saudi Arabia is a 1005 Muslim country, yet people say Israel is prejudice for being a “Jewish state” when 30% of Israelis are non Jews and despite your exclamations ALL Palestinian Christians and Muslims who are citizens of Israel have a vote. The only ones who do not are the ones in Gaza and West Bank. I worked alongside Palestinians everyday, some who were friendly with Jews, others who were not. But need I remind you, that Palestinians in Arab countries don’t fare much better than they do in Gaza.
      Third, I never personally saw any signs for “Jews only”, I did hear stories about beaches and such that Palestinians could not go to who were coming in from the West Bank or Gaza, but one can’t discount the fact this may be for security reasons. I do not recall suicide bombers in South Africa, Israel has got them, I saw an 8 year old boy die in Sderot from an attack from Gaza, his legs were blown off. Yes, I realize people die in Gaza too, which is the part of Israeli policy I have a problem with. However, again, I have NEVER seen a beach or any other place rules out for ALL Palestinians, only those from Gaza and West Bank. In fact, I saw Palestinian Muslims at the beaches with my own eyes.
      I also would like to tell you that there was a Palestinian children’s program, targeted at the same age group as Sesame St. aged children, which preached to children about how killing Jews was a good deed, and how they should try to kill as many Jews as possible. If you think this only started with Israel, you are in correct. Muslims have killed and persecuted Mizrahi Jews for centuries, as well as Arab Christians.
      My main issue with Israel is that most people of Jewish heritage did not live in the Middle East for a long time and came from Europe, North Africa and Ethiopia. While we were fleeing persecution, and genetic studies have proven our ancestry, being gone so long, having mixed in with other populations, having varying cultures etc. I do not think gives us the right to go back to a place where people were already living. However, now that Israel is here, I think it is rather ignorant to make these remarks, because having lived in Israel, I can honestly say, the dirty stuff I saw going down on both sides, was mostly in West Bank and Gaza and that general area.

  15. dumbledoresarmy says

    Mar 4, 2014 at 11:01 pm

    Black African Christians – and other African non-Muslims – would do well to

    1/ refuse, henceforward, all ‘aid’ from and trade with Muslim entities or polities (it *always* comes with Islamic da’wa strings attached)

    2/ refuse all Muslim immigration, and refuse to accept Muslims from over the borders, into their countries, henceforward

    3/ invite the Israelis to come to their countries and invest in them and help train doctors, scientists, engineers, schoolteachers, vets, and farmers (esp in the areas of dryland farming, reafforestation, and rehabilitation of degraded land), *and* soldiers and national intelligence agencies and counter-terrorism = counter-jihad units. Set up some ‘student exchange’ arrangements. Tropical medicine – and bioprospecting in rainforests etc – is a huge area: why not ask Israeli medical and pharmaceutical researchers, who are among the world’s best, to set up shop, and identify bright young Africans to partner with and be trained by them? Win-win.

    4/ form a *pro-Israel* voting bloc in the United Nations, and every time they vote “No” to a “let’s lynch Israel” Muslim-driven ‘resolution’ in the Assembly, think of it as a blow struck in the memory of the 120 million black Africans who are estimated to have perished as a result of the slave-raiding and pillaging activities of the Ummah in black Africa over the past 1200 years.

    If black non-Muslim Africans want sweet, sweet revenge for the blood of all the African boys who were snatched and castrated by Muslim slave-raiders (and something like nine out of every ten boys thus mutilated, perished before ever reaching the slave-markets) and dragged off to be eunuchs in the harems – there were black eunuchs in the harems in Constantinople as late as the 1920s – then one way they can do it – one way they can sock it to the mohammedans, and strike a blow against the ummah, against the Jihad, a physical and a psychological blow – is to *stand with the Jews, and with the House of Israel*.

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