“We hope the international community can know the true terrorist nature of TIP which represents ETIM and their serious threat, and understand and support policies against terrorism.” Don’t count on it. The international media reports on jihad attacks in China with undisguised skepticism and sympathy for the attackers, and that is unlikely to change given the fact that its reportage is hardly better in regard to Israel and the U.S., which face obvious and undeniable jihad terror threats.
“Uighur leader’s support for knife attack proves terrorism: China,” from Reuters, March 19 (thanks to Kenneth):
BEIJING: A Uighur militant leader’s support of an attack this month in China in which 29 people were knifed to death is clear proof that the world should support China’s fight against terror, the foreign ministry said today.
Beijing blamed the stabbings at a train station in the southwestern city of Kunming on extremists from China’s far western region of Xinjiang, home to the Muslim Uighur people.
Abdullah Mansour, leader of the rebel Turkestan Islamic Party, called the March 1 attack an “expensive offer” for China to reconsider its “cruel” policies in Xinjiang, the SITE monitoring service said yesterday, citing a video by the group.
“If the fighters of East Turkestan are now fighting with swords, knives, and mallets, our dear Allah will soon give us opportunities to fight the Chinese using automatic guns,” Mansour said. “Know that blood of those who are killing themselves is not being spilled for nothing, for their blood will bring tens of more to carry out jihad.”
China says it faces a serious threat from armed groups who seek to establish an independent state called East Turkestan, and has reacted with anger to suggestions its policies are to blame for stoking Uighur resentment and violence.
Mansour told Reuters this month that his fighters were gearing up for retribution against China.
The Turkestan Islamic Party, which China equates with the East Turkestan Islamic Movement (ETIM), keeps a low profile in Pakistan, where it is holed up in a lawless tribal belt.
Unlike the Taliban, it almost never posts videos promoting its activities or ideology. Its exact size is unknown and some experts dispute its ability to orchestrate attacks in China, or that it exists at all as a cohesive group.
Chinese foreign ministry spokesman Hong Lei told reporters that Mansour’s video “exposes the true nature of their terrorist organisation” with their open support for the Kunming attack. “Terrorism is the public enemy of mankind. Cracking down on the ETIM terrorist group is an important part of the international community’s fight against terrorism,” Hong added. “We hope the international community can know the true terrorist nature of TIP which represents ETIM and their serious threat, and understand and support policies against terrorism.”
Exiles and rights groups say the real cause of the unrest is China’s heavy-handed policies including restrictions on Islam and the Uighur people’s culture and language. The government strongly denies such accusations but has begun to recognise the economic roots of the upheaval, such as lack of jobs in Uighur areas like rural southern Xinjiang, and has poured money in to rectify the problem.
Study after study has shown that poverty does not cause terrorism. The Chinese have poured money in to rectify the problem? They’ve poured money down the drain.
veggiedog says
They have attacks in Israel, the US, UK, France, Russia, China… Do the Islamists think they can wage this type of war, like they di at home Internationally and not get it up the ass?
Mazo says
Again JW engages in deliberate obfuscation and misreading.
The article cleary says:
“The government strongly denies such accusations but has begun to recognise the economic roots of the upheaval, such as lack of jobs in Uighur areas like rural southern Xinjiang, and has poured money in to rectify the problem.”
And then he concludes with zero evidence that “They’ve poured money down the drain.”
And he goes on to tells us nothing about the current economic situation of Uyghurs in southern Xinjiang, and completely ignores the fact that it will take years for China to finish developing the area and rectify the current economic situation where many Uyghurs in southern Xinjiang are still jobless and live in poverty.
Many Uyghurs in southern Xinjiang also don’t have jobs because they can’t speak Mandarin due to a lack of education. China has to keep spending money to build more schools and hire teachers and it will take years for all Uyghurs to become fluent in Mandarin and educated.
Injecting cash right now into developing the region and building factories won’t bring about an economic miracle right away, China will have to keep up with its development in order to bring southern Xinjiang on part with the north.
What did JW expect? China just dumps money and suddenly all Uyghurs should automatically become educated and be able to speak Mandarin immediately? It takes years to do that.
In northern Xinjiang, and especially in Turfan and Hami, the local Uyghurs are well integrated and have jobs and don’t suffer from this kind of poverty. Almost all Uyghur terrorists originate from southern Xinjiang around the Kashgar-Khotan area where millions of them live below the poverty line. Northern Xinjiang is extremely developed and China poured tons of money into its industry and agriculture at the height of the Cold War decades ago, while neglecting southern Xinjiang’s development.
And there is the fact that the other Muslim ethnic groups in China, who outnumber the Uyghurs and live right in the middle of China itself (and speak Chinese) like the Hui, Salar, and Dongxiang don’t have any separatist movement and never participated in terrorist violence.
Islamisdeath says
So if they just had jobs and money they would stop slaughtering people. Like for instance the way providing them with the good life has stopped them from slaughtering people in the UK? Oh wait no because they butchered a soldier in London in broad daylight.
Angemon says
Mazo posted:
“Again JW engages in deliberate obfuscation and misreading.”
Like that time when you assured everyone that JW was jumping to the conclusion that Uighurs were behind the train station attack and that it was a jihad attack? How did that turn out for you?
duh_swami says
I know that the times I have been out of a job and in a poverty condition, my first thought is to strike back against the government who is oppressing me, by murdering people in a train station, or shopping mall.
Kepha says
I catch your sarcasm, duh_swami. Yes, when I was out of work, I got royally plastered, beat up the wife and kids, robbed people on the street, broke into houses, short up schools, etc., too [NOT!].
Ah, we live in the golden age of excuses!
thomas_h says
The evil, however horrendous, that the moslems do is not the real evil. It is simply retaliation against the real evil perpetrated by non-moslems declining to invest in moslems – or not paying jazzyiah as commanded by shariah.
All evil can be prevented with money, according to Mazo. Had Mazo been paid enough and on time he would have not retaliated by spewing evil lies on this website.
robert4 says
Very good point, “Mazo” – more obfuscation, insinuation, and allegation from Robert, himself a (former?) hard-core fan of Chairman Mao. No wonder he’s lashing out at these “feudalists” based in Pakistan, a “running dog” of “US imperialism” as Robert himself has said.
Kepha says
While I’m not exactly in Beijing’s cheering section, I will also note that a good number of the teachers (and others) China has sent to Eastern Turkistan end up murdered. I learned about this sort of thing back in the 1990’s, but I’m sure it has been going on for longer than that.
BTW, I’m not so sure that someone will cease being violent simply because he has a full belly and a regular job. Poverty and despair was an excuse for the middle class “innaleckchewalls” who brought Marxist revolution to a lot of the world then; it’s the excuse for the jihadis today (many of whom are from well-off families).
Mazo says
@Kepha
While it may be forgivable to apply the name “Eastern Turkestan” to the Tarim Basin (actually the native Uyghur name for the region was Altishahr, meaning six cities, standing for the six most important oaseses, East Turkestan was first applied by westerners and Russians to the Tarim basin, and Uyghur nationalists later took the name from them for their own cause), using the name “East Turkestan” to describe the entire Xinjiang including Dzungaria borders on obnoxious.
Dzungars are Mongols, and not Turkic peoples. Dzungaria and the Tarim Basin were not politically unified until the Qing united them into one province called Xinjiang in 1884. Uyghur nationalists don’t have neither the historical nor political authority to rename lands that aren’t theirs. Xinjiang was an entirely new creation welding togeher previously seperate lands.
Uyghur Nationalists decided to adopt the western/Russian name “East Turkestan” because of pan-Turkist nationalist ideas spreading from central asia in the 1920s.
Look up altishahr and its etymology.
Steve says
Mazo Ball, You are ignorant and just plain wrong. There are several studies that show poverty has nothing to do with terrorism. In fact, most of the 9/11 killers, the times square bomber, the Boston bombers and the terrorists in the UK that wanted to blow up an airport, all have college degrees or even doctoral degrees. Same goes for terrorists in Pakistan.
Here is a Rand Corp. study that proves my point:
“Social Science for Counterterrorism”
http://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/monographs/…/RAND_MG849.pdf
Maybe you should check the facts before you post your lame muslims-are-the-victims drivel. Absolutely no-one buys that bull anymore.
Steve says
Here’s the correct link for the RAND study:
“Social Science for Counterterrorism”
http://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/monographs/2009/RAND_MG849.pdf
enwhitenment says
It is sad that anyone has to waste their short life in poverty.
It is sad that one group has to waste their short life blaming everyone else.
It is sad that the blind faith of some can infect so many
It is just sad that Islam even exists , but hey the devil deserves his cut.