Islamic apologists in the West routinely denounce as “Islamophobic” any claim that Muslims anywhere will apply Sharia to non-Muslims. Reality, as always, is different: Sharia asserts authority over non-Muslims, and in Aceh now, that assertion is becoming reality.
“Sharia law to apply to non-Muslims in Aceh,” by Nurdin Hasan for Khabar Southeast Asia, March 22 (thanks to Robert):
Non-Muslims can be prosecuted under Sharia law in Aceh if they participate with Muslims in offenses not regulated by Indonesian criminal law, under a new bylaw passed in the province late last year.
The controversial clause is contained in the Qanun Hukum Acara Jinayat (QHAJ), Islamic criminal procedure codes, passed by the regional House of Representatives (DPRA) on December 13th, 2013.
The clause pertains to “a violation committed jointly by two or more people, among them non-Muslims”, according to a copy of the bylaw obtained by Khabar Southeast Asia.
It also states that non-Muslims who are arrested can choose to be prosecuted in a Sharia court or a state court. But if the violation is not regulated by Indonesian criminal law, the non-Muslim will be prosecuted in Sharia court.
The new bylaws authorise Sharia police, prosecutors and judges to detain violators for 15 to 60 days if an investigation, trial or sentence warrants it. Until now, Sharia enforcement officials have only been permitted to arrest and briefly detain violators for counselling on Sharia norms. They have not had authority to put them in jail.
“Anticipatory”
The QHAJ were sent to the Department of the Interior in Jakarta on February 3rd for final approval, Edrian, head of legal affairs for the Aceh government, told Khabar. If the Minister of the Interior does not respond in 60 days, the new laws will automatically go into force.
The clause pertaining to non-Muslims is to prevent offenders from escaping legal consequences “in the event a criminal offense is not regulated under the Indonesian Criminal Justice Act (ICJA)” Edrian said.
“But in my opinion, there are no criminal offenses that are not regulated by the ICJA and other laws in Indonesia. So the article pertaining to non-Muslims is just anticipatory.”
Other legal experts suggested that non-Muslims could be prosecuted under the QHAJ for drinking or intimacy among people not married to one another (mesum).
“Not really needed”
Muslims and non-Muslims alike suggested the new provision is unnecessary.
The Chairman of Nahdlatul Ulama (NU) in Aceh, Tengku Faisal Ali, said the article on non-Muslims was “not really needed” and had been introduced in an attempt to prevent full implementation of Sharia law in Aceh.
“For all this time, various methods have been used by certain parties to prevent Sharia Islam in Aceh,” he told Khabar. “One of them is to introduce this article regulating non-Muslims, because it is not really needed. It’s a purposeful effort to prevent the application of Sharia law.”
Local legislators and the Aceh government do not seriously support Sharia Islam and are dawdling in ratifying the latest Qanun Jinayat the DPRA promised to pass in 2013, he charged.
Aki, a respected local Buddhist, said the new bylaw “gives a very strange impression because as far as I know, Sharia Islam in Aceh applies to Muslims only. So why should it apply to non-Muslims?”
Non-Muslims “respect implementation of Islamic law in Aceh. Interfaith relations and tolerance are good. Social interaction is also quite good between Muslims and non-Muslims,” he said.
Aki said he and other Buddhists in Aceh were anxiously awaiting the central government’s response to the bylaws.
“If the interior minister does not cancel this controversial clause, I will consult with friends who are civil society activists in Aceh, to advocate for judicial review of the article in the Supreme Court,” he told Khabar.
mortimer says
•I gave at the office.
•The check is in the mail.
•Sharia will only apply to people who want it.
Angemon says
•Yes, we can.
•If you like your health care plan, you can keep it.
Sorry, couldn’t help myself.
umbra says
aceh, another hole on earth. This law is also applicable to foreign tourists. Perhaps a good an idea to avoid aceh permenantly.
john spielman says
I can’t believe I gave money to this govt after they had their devasatating eathquake/tsunami! I want my money back with interest (or they can donate it to Israel)
Charli Main says
So did I john, only to be called a mug by a friend, that hindsight has shown, was much smarter than me.
He asked a question that I didn´t understand at the time.
” How much money do you think that Saudi Arabia and all the other mega rich Gulf States send, to help out Christian Countries in South America, when they have earthquakes and tsunamis???
umbra says
islam takes from non-believers and gives nothing in return except subjugation, death, empty promises and lies.
JAMES says
When you bend your laws to accommodate other peoples,
soon those other people will bend you to their laws.
enwhitenment says
I have done business in Aceh for over twenty years & what was an Arab islamic influence driving the separatists for autonomy was not the locals dream.
The tsunami brought a huge response from the world offering donations & aid.
Food on the ground was mainly stolen by the separatists for their own use while financial aid was mainly stolen by corrupt officials.
The separatists would not allow NGO’S to enter.
Indonesia ceased the war on the separatists hoping things would change.
A small minority of arab influenced thugs have forced sharia upon the people of Aceh & their lives are worse for it.
If you want hookers , drugs or alchohol you need just pay a small fee to sharia police then all is ok.
As a westerner I am often asked my intentions (water sanitation) & almost every encounter with sharia ends with “you want young girl” or “you want drugs”.
The people of Banda Aceh/Aceh are lovely like most indonesians the officials promoting sharia are ugly thugs.
Defcon 4 says
@enwhitenment
What’s your excuse for the ongoing ethnic cleansing of the najjis kaffir
that’s going on in W. Papua New Guinea?
What’s your excuse for the state-sanctioned genocide committed by Indonesian muslimes in E. Timor?
Is it all just a TMOE?
enwhitenment says
Defcon 4,
I have no excuses for anyone else’s action’s.
I was making a point that corruption if often committed by those that claim to protect against it.
I don’t know enough to comment on the questions you raised but I do no that the stealing of land from locals plays a big part in some of the conflicts. (mining & palms play a part)
Indonesia has many different groups bannered under one name & most are just trying to survive day to day.
Radicals do the damage at the bequest of powerful figures.
Radical preachers are not the majority but they are on the increase.
That’s all i know & i have not seen ethnic violence first hand.
Defcon 4 says
I seem to remember a video of an amadhi “muslim” getting beaten to death by other islamic cretins in Indonesiastan. The worst part is that a member of Indonesiastan’s police force was a spectator.
Semeru says
What’s your excuse for the state-sanctioned genocide committed by Indonesian muslimes in E. Timor
Wow, Another jihad watcher who so full of anti muslim malice spewing lies.
Fact #1 The actual architect of the 1975 invasion was a stern army general known as Benny Moerdani. The most powerful of commanders to serve under Suharto, Moerdani was a conservative Javanese Catholic, not only that, it was Moerdani who broke a cease-fire
Fact #2 Benny Moerdani was not the only high ranking christian army officer involved with East Timor.
Here are just a few more
Major General Theo Syafei, a Buginese Christian
LtGen Johny Josephus Lumintang a Protestant born in Menado, northern Sulawesi
MajGen (ret) Sintong Panjaitan
LtGen Tyasno Sudarto a Central Javanese Christian born in 1948
Fact #3 Many of the militia members targeting church institutions in East Timor were themselves primarily recruited from Catholic families.
Fact #4 Eurico Barros Gomes Guterres is a pro-Indonesian or anti-independence militia. He was involved in several massacres in East Timor, such as the Liquiçá Church Massacre, and the Suai Church Massacre, as well as Catholic nuns that were killed in Lospalos he was a chief militia leader during the post-independence massacre and destruction of the capital Dili.
Eurico Guterres, the commander of the Aitarak, held absolute control over not only the Aitarak, but also the Besi Merah Putih, and other militias throughout East Timor.
Due to the ruthless manner in which the Aitarak killed and raped, they became infamous. They acted in a manner that indicated they had no fear of the press, or international reaction or consequences.
But of course, R Spencer and jihad watchers wish to ignore these facts
As Jose Ramos-Horta said in his speech ‘East Timor and the Region: The Opportunities and Perils Ahead’ (Scientia, University of New South Wales, Sydney, 30 May 2001)
the violence in East Timor was fundamentally unrelated to religious differences.
Although sporadic persecution of Roman Catholics did occur,129 Catholic priests and nuns were not targeted for their religious beliefs so much as for their political objections to the Indonesian occupation. Thus they were not targeted as a religious group ‘as such’, but rather as political opponents who happened to be Catholic. This distinction may seem artificial in the sense that the principles of Catholicism require its followers to object to inhumane actions which violate their religious principles. That is, Catholic objections to the brutality of the Indonesian occupation were an expression of Catholic religious beliefs as opposed to an expression of political opposition. Yet this view is an inadequate explanation of Indonesia’s violence in East Timor, since Indonesia targeted all political opposition in East Timor, regardless of whether their opponents were Roman Catholic, animist, or Muslim.
Fact #5 The characterisation of the East Timorese as a racial or ethnical group targeted for genocide is equally problematic. Although Indonesia was primarily responsible for the post-ballot violence and pre-ballot intimidation, most acts of violence against pro-independence East Timorese were physically carried out by militia members of most of whom were East Timorese. The issue is whether members of a group targeted for genocide can carry out genocide against other members of their own group.
Angemon says
Lol @ Semeru, trying to pretend indonesian muslims had no part on the attempted genocide of the East Timorese.
Angemon says
Semeru posted:
“Wow, Another jihad watcher who so full of anti muslim malice spewing lies.”
Indonesia is one of the largest muslim countries in the world, if not the largest. Asking someone about what the Indonesians did to the East Timorese is neither anti-muslim malice nor spewing lies. The overwhelming majority of Indonesians are muslims, so it’s a safe assumption that most of the troops on the ground killing the East Timorese were indonesian muslims.
I can give you an example of religious hate and lies: it’s what you do when you try to blame everything on a handful of christians, including but not limited to you continuously refusing to blame the Indonesian army for the atrocities committed against the East Timorese. According to you, the only massacres who took place in East Timor were committed by “Timorese christian militias”. You even go as far as to avoid saying that they were pro-Indonesian.
umbra says
The one thing about “lovely” followers of the ROP is that once there is any critique of islam, even perceived as opposed actual, their behaviour can and often change very rapidly, leading to insults, threats and violence. This is a universal phenomenon in Islamic countries afflicting many ROP adherents, if not most or almost all.
Jerry says
Wake up!
Islam was invented by the Pluderer for Profit (P… Be Upon Him)
as an excuse for his caravan plundering raid and raids on his
neighbours.
The promise of plunder, booty, sex slaves and other slaves
was augmented by the fiction of a “paradise” with 72 virgins for
those who gained “martyrdom” on Jihad, and naturally, to
this day, no one who became a “martyr” on Jihad efer came
back from “paradise” to contradict that promise!
There is a fiction that supports this hoax about the
gullible adherents having suffered some sort of opression
or insult inflicted mostly by people or nations they never
even met, which opression has to be met by violent Jihad.
So much for a “religion” for previously intelectually
disadvantaged!
And the gullible fools in the West who do not understand
that the violence is not related any real wrongs or opression
but to the hatred and lust for plunder perpetrated by that
“religion” based on lies cannot be appeased and can
only be stopped only if sufficient force is applied to
convince its proponents to remain peaceful at least for a time.
Jerry says
Hi Dan
“Let’s expose Islam as the Great Lie that it is. Let’s demand that our government denounce Islam, an ideology bent on out extermination. ”
A bit difficult to achieve when you allowed a Muslim born fake Christian to become your “Commander in Chief” and let him embark on policies calculated to enable Islamic terrorism take over in Libya, Egypt and Syria, prop up the Islamists in Pakistan and treat the Islamist corrupt regime of Erdogan in Turkey as a reliable ally.
It appears the your “Commander in Chief” is more concerned with appeasing the Muslims, and thus have hindered and delayed the prosecution in the Fort Hood Massacre case and under his pressure the military refuse to this day to treat the matter as an act of terrorism lest the the “Religion of Peace” be blamed.
In the Middle East he pressurised Israel to release a multitude of terrorists with blood on their hands and pressurises Israel to make further concessions to Hamas, who in terms of Article Seven of their “Covenant” are comitted to attempting to realise their vision o a complete genocide of all Jews of this planet.
Israel is treated as an “Apartheid State” partly because of the separation wall necessitated by unceasing attempt to carry out Jihaddist attacks, mainly against its civillians, while the PLO is peddled as a future “Partner in Peace” despite having similar agenda to Article Seven of the Hamas “Covenant” thoough not that clearly articulated in writing.
The “Commander in Chief” also chose to be a relatively silent partner to the Iranian Mischief and is tacitly allowing them to continue with their quest to obtain nuclear weapons, meant, firstly and primarily at the destruction of Israel, but ultimately would be used either to directly harm or blackmail all Western and other non-Muslim states, and even some Muslim states.
American Law Enforcement, Defence and Military agencies are not allowed to acknowledge that Islam is the prime motivator in domestic and international terrorism and known Islamic terrorism supporters and collaborators are appointed to them as advisors and policy makers.
How stupid can one be?
Tommy Peters says
I told the Achenese-Buddhist waitress at the coffee shop down the road not to worry that Mecca’s Verandah is re-aligning itself, because the Central government has yet to approve the bylaw. She is relieved.
Veil416 says
The history of Aceh, particularly the decades leading to 1900, should be required reading for all politicians, military and intelligence staff.
Read about the initially failing Dutch policies and then, after a few decades of failure, they applied a new military strategy that worked successfully within a few years.
The strategy was advised by Christiaan Snouck Hurgronje, a dutch spy who travelled undercover as a muslim and visited Mecca, then later to Aceh.
His advice to the Dutch military enabled them to turn their failed policies around and in the space of a few years they’d wiped out the organised Jihadi threat.
Reading about his advice and the results should be compulsory for all politicians, military and intelligence staff.
Andy says
Islam will force you and ruling your whole life and make you their slav3 until you worshiping allah the moon god. Wake up good people!
ralph3796 says
My S&W Applies to every Muslim that tries to Push His CULT on Me… Off to your Allah and all of those virgins.
Defcon 4 says
I prefer my 12 gauge Remington autoloader with extended magazine capacity. My answer to sharia law and islam0nazism.
Mawloud Ould Daddah says
revolting,stop extremists,stop barbars,yes,yes,yes,
gravenimage says
“For all this time, various methods have been used by certain parties to prevent Sharia Islam in Aceh,” he told Khabar. “One of them is to introduce this article regulating non-Muslims, because it is not really needed. It’s a purposeful effort to prevent the application of Sharia law.”
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Grimly hilarious—this is like the Muslims who say that all Jihad terrorism is an attempt by Infidels to “make Islam look bad”.
What he means is that this attempt to impose Islamic law on non-Muslims may be overreaching at this point, and draw unwanted attention to Shari’ah.
Notice he doesn’t actually say that imposing Shari’ah on non-Muslims would *be wrong*—instead, he just says rather cryptically that it is “not really needed”.
I think all he is saying is that the time may not be ripe yet…