Here yet again we see why there are not more genuine Muslim reformers. Sheikh Abdullah al-Hassan was murdered in Mosul; similarly, last year in Morocco Ahmed Assid said: “To call [upon people] to follow Islam by the use of violence and constraint is an act of terrorism.” For that, he has been condemned, declared a non-Muslim, and threatened with death.
“Gunmen kill prominent Iraqi cleric in Mosul,” from Al-Shorfa.com, March 19 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):
Unknown gunmen killed a cleric, who had taken a stand against extremism and terrorism, at his home in southern Mosul, the Iraqi police in Ninawa province said Wednesday (March 19th).
“Unknown gunmen attacked prominent cleric Sheikh Abdullah al-Hassan, imam and preacher at al-Sheikh Abdullah Mosque, while he was at home” in al-Imam neighbourhood, Ninawa police spokesman Col. Khalid al-Hamdani told Al-Shorfa.
“They opened fire on him, killing him immediately,” he said.
The gunmen fled the scene after carrying out the attack, he added.
Michael Copeland says
“Violence is the heart of Islam”
Ayatollah Yazdi, adviser to Ahmedinejad, Iran.
Salah says
Speaking of Ayatollah Yazdi, this vermin was once asked:
“Can an interrogator rape a prisoner in order to obtain a confession?”
He replied: “The neccessary precaution is for the interrogator to perform a ritual washing first and say prayers while raping the prisoner.”
http://crossmuslims.blogspot.ca/2010/04/rape-and-torture-viol-et-torture.html
Jay Boo says
“The neccessary precaution is for the interrogator to perform a ritual washing first and say prayers
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Typical Islamic
Muhammad inspired logic
mariam rove says
this guy is one of the most hated people in Iran. M
voegelinian says
1) Proof that Yazdi is generally hated by Iranian Muslims?
2) When will Iranian Muslims get around to hating the source of all this misery, mayhem, madness and murder — Muhammad?
Always On Watch says
the source of all this misery, mayhem, madness and murder — Muhammad
I should put on my sidebar “The source of misery, mayhem, madness, and murder is Muhammad.”
eib says
And so it is.
JC Vaughan says
This is exactly the answer to your question of why “moderate”, or general, muslims avoid speaking up against these frothing mad dogs. The situation was exactly identical in the U.S. South during the last century, with the KKK and other such groups. And as for Ayatollah Yazdi, he can suck shit out of the ass of his master the Devil. God will give him blood to drink, if I don’t get to him first. You tell him I said he is a pig of Satan and his mother is a whore of Satan who loves to get it on with the bow-wows. Goddamned SwineHound.
gravenimage says
The idea that no one spoke out against racism in the American south during the 20th century is *utterly false*.
Salah says
..last year in Morocco Sheikh Ahmed Assid said: “To call [upon people] to follow Islam by the use of violence and constraint is an act of terrorism.”
Another proof that decent, non violent Muslims do exist. They don’t live long enough though, but there are more and more of them, and they’re getting louder and louder by the day.
These courageous Muslims are our best allies, they are the ones who, knowingly or unknowlingly, will bring Islam down. Islam must be destroyed from within.
Of course, by condemning violence, Sheikh Assid is condemning Muhammad himself!
http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2012/03/assassin-english.html
Charli Main says
Salah,
we need people like you, with inside knowledge of Islam and the Koran, to point out at every opportunity that Mohammed was an insane psychopath.
Its important to make clear, that the fact that Mohammed was a cross dressing homosexual, paedophile, necrophiliac, rapist, mass murderer who killed men so he could abuse their wives, slave trader who sucked the penises of little boys, are NOT the ranting and ravings of Muslim hating Islamophobes.
The are the eyewitness accounts of Mohammed’s OWN FOLLOWERS AND COMPANIANS, like his wife Aisha, recorded in the Koran, Hadiths and Suras.
Mohammed is condemned by the very people who supported him.
Salah says
Thanks Charli Main. We definitely need each other to spread the truth about this 7th century bedouin.
Please download and share:
http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2010/12/perfect-man-of-islam.html
mortimer says
Indeed. Mullahs like Abdullah al-Hassan and Sheikh Assid are saying that Mohammed is too immoral to be a role model.
The criticism of Mohammed, whether directly or indirectly, is blasphemy (kufr) and requires the death sentence.
Our Western clueless, leftard politicians are unacquainted with Islam and think such dissenting mullahs represent the mainstream. They do not.
Defcon 4 says
What a pipe dream. I find myself wondering if you’re not engaging in cointelpro.
You seem to be proposing that nothing need be done about pisslam, because, after all, it’s not muslimes are the problem and they’re all set to leave their death cult any day now.
Salah says
“You seem to be proposing that nothing need be done about pisslam..”
You don’t seem to understand. We can, and we must, do whatever it takes to protect our societies from Islam. Unfortunately, all of these measures (deportation, profiling, immigration policies etc.) are nothing but short term solutions. Islam will eventually come back to haunt us, our children and our grandchildren again.
The total destruction of Islam has to be done from within. Anything else would be nothing but a temporary fix.
Defcon 4 says
Well, I certainly apologize Salah. You’re more on the ball than most all of the Christians I’ve ever met anywhere.
voegelinian says
I agree. Whether Salah is sincerely anti-Islam or deceptively pretending to be, it doesn’t much matter: his anti-Islam message is intimately bound up with a pro-Muslim message; and that combination is more likely than not to produce a debilitating incoherence in the Counter-Jihad — to the extent that it is widely supported.
fair_dinkum says
whod be a reformer in iraq?
poor guy didnt stand a chance. anyone with an ounce of reason is marked.
blind faith and guns.
Always On Watch says
Frankly, I see no hope for any reformation of Islam. We have 1400 years of Islamic history telling us that any such softening of Islam isn’t going to happen. In fact, the opposite has taken place: fundamentalist orthodox Islam is dominating the big picture. The West refuses to see that big picture. Not even 9/11 was enough to wake up the West.
Defcon 4 says
For all we know this imam/mullah/cleric (whatever) could’ve been lying his ass off and the wrong people took him seriously.
EYESOPEN says
I sincerely doubt that. Knowing well what could happen to him, do you actually think that he raised objections to the violence in islam knowing he would be targeted for murder?
Defcon 4 says
Yasser Arafat constantly played the same game — one set of civilised words for the idiots in the enemedia and western democracies and another set for his fellow islam0nazis.
Mike says
Islamic tradition gives severe teeth to it’s dictates by declaring Allah’s wrath and punishment not only for a guilty individual, but for the entire family and society that tolerates the sins of one individual. In that manner, the entire society is compelled to carefully watch and police each individual, which effectively removes all personal freedom. For instance, they believe that an entire society commits suicide when they allow sexual sin, so a teen girl who disobeys her family and dates somebody her father disapproves of can actually bring the destruction of her entire society.
The realization that a family is allowing their daughter to destroy the entire society causes that society to shun the family and distance themselves, by refusing employment and refusing to allow anyone in their own families to marry members of the offending family. To remove this “stain of dishonor”, the family must murder their daughter. This act also appeases Allah’s wrath so he won’t destroy the society.
If the girl engaged in sexual intercourse, the honor killing is also a mercy killing, because it prevents the girl from being stoned to death by the community. Women and teen girls who are stoned to death generally come from families that refused to kill them.
Much of the violence of Islam is to avoid Allah’s wrath, but because the responsibility for offending Allah is borne by the entire society, members of the religion must also worry about the wrath of everyone in their society. This is why apostacy is also punished with death.
Women wear the burqa to avoid any impression that they are attempting to engage in sexual indiscretions, and teen girls who don’t wear the burqa have acid thrown in their face.
The religion was created by a very control thirsty and misogynist prophet, who knew how to brainwash and intimidate. Muslims attack anyone who mocks Mohammed, they ban together and commit violence against anyone who offends other Muslims, and they engage in a shocking amount of violence. Though they are deep down aware that they are actually miserable, they spread the religion at all costs, claiming that it is a religion of peace and that they feel joy, because they fear Allah’s wrath.
John says
One of the best comments I have read on this website. It explains alot of things.
Wellington says
Well reasoned, Mike. And, of course, quite damning of Islam and its founder.
Salah says
Hi Wellington, I’ve posted this on another thread, I’m posting it again in case you missed it. I think you might want to read it:
“The more substantial comment above by Wellington. This person comments a lot on Jihadwatch…”
Wellington says
Thank you, Salah. I found reading it quite amusing. I must say that I do agree with one thing that was asserted and that is that secular/authoritarian rulers in Muslim lands, even though they are also enemies of liberty, do indeed protect Christians and other minorities better than do devout Muslims when devout Muslims run things, but so does Robert Spencer, Pamela Geller, et al. think so and yet the statement accuses us of being standard imperialists. The “standard imperialists,” who do have to interfere in Muslim lands from time to time because Muslim lands are so dysfunctional and often threatening to non-Muslim nations, would greatly profit by learning more about Islam, which to date the Western elites have refused to do (or have done so but are too cowardly to admit what they know).
Thanks again. Always good to read your comments here at JW.
Alan Haywood says
Mike, one of the best reasoned and incisive comments I have read, bravo. If you don’t mind, I have copied it and intend to post it wherever appropriate. I will never claim authorship, but refer to you c/o Jihad watch.
Alan
duh_swami says
The ambitious consolidate their power by eliminating the opposition. The ultimate punishment for ‘warring with Allah’, and spreading mischief in the land is death. It’s not personal, it’s just business, Allah willing, and he always is.
mortimer says
Jihadists are bounty hunters for Allah…they get paid per assassination.
Champ ✿ says
“Iraq: Muslim cleric who stood against terrorism is gunned down”
The ugly truth about evil islam strikes again …”islam0realism” at it’s finest!
Henry says
Sheikh Abdullah al-Hassan was a brave man, as is Sheikh Ahmed Assid.
It takes a lot of courage to speak out against the murderous intimidation of Islam , not least if you are within the community. Undoubtedly there are many Muslims who find fault with Islam or wish to abandon it. We must continue to speak out against the enslaving doctrine of Islam here in the West for the good of all humanity.
EYESOPEN says
You’re right there. In fact I’m surprised that Zudi Jasser is still in the land of the living.
autdrew says
I wonder about that sometimes too. It makes me wonder if he is, not sure how to phrase it, committing taqiya so he is left alone
Angemon says
Isn’t Zuhdi Jasser a certified “islamophobe” by the SPLC? Lol, that’s the world where we live in, where a muslim trying to fight against political islam and for the separation of mosque and state is classified as an “islamophobe”.
autdrew says
This is a perfect example of why it is impossible to have a reformation in islam. The book was supposedly straight from God’s mouth, who spoke it to an angel who then relayed it, supposedly, to mo.
Mo set up a perfect “religion” for men. All the sex you want, with women, children, animals etc but a woman would be killed. He can have multiple wives (& slaves). Women are breeders, that’s their purpose. If for some reason he decides to divorce her, he can just tell her 3x & poof, she’s out but he keeps his “property”, the children. Rape someone & the others will kill the victim for adultery! She needs four male witnesses to say yes, he raped her. I ‘ve often wondered if that means she needs 8 women to testify for her since a woman’s testimony is worth half that of a man. Blood money to a female’s family is also worth much less than a man.
Fear is at the heart of this system. Especially if you are a woman, a child, or free thinker. Do something wrong, or even the appearance of maybe doing something wrong, can get you killed. You are usually born into it, and you can’t leave, thereby taking away any possibility for change.
Everything is all spelled in the book & the hadiths, yet people keep saying these murderers “misunderstand” the “true” islam. Ever since the 600’s, anywhere islam is, this sort of thing (& even worse) happens.
Do they really expect people to believe that millions espousing jihad over the years are simply “misunderstanding” islam? What’s sad is that people DO fall for the bs. Smdh….
Everything the political left says they are against, islam allows. Feminists? Nary a word on honor killings, genital mutilation, beatings, acid attacks, and so on. Gay activists? Nary a word on the legalized murder of men having sex with a male, though it’s allowed if the other male is not old enough to grow a beard. It’s amazing how few know these things or think that this is some kind of new phenomenon and that it’s caused by something we’ve done to the perpetually offended. It’s sad that so few people have bothered to learn about it. I began to investigate after 9/11 & not just because my husband was a Marine. I don’t get it & never will.
Mike says
You never want to mess with Fitna. Especially if your are one of the other 140 plus muslim people groups.