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Leading ayatollah in new moderate Iran: the Twelfth Imam “will behead Western leaders”

Mar 17, 2014 10:26 am By Robert Spencer

iranantiobama“After his speech, the outlet of the Quds cyber forces officers posted an image of Obama wearing a Nazi field marshal’s uniform and surrendering with his hands on his head. The caption reads, ‘In the not too distant future… One [Gen. Qasem] Soleimani is enough for all the enemies of this country.'” Good thing the Iranians are all moderate and peaceful now. Imagine what they’d be saying if they were still “extremists.”

“Leading Iranian ayatollah: Islamic messiah ‘will behead Western leaders,’” by Reza Kahlili for the Daily Caller, March 16 (thanks to Jerk Chicken):

A leading ayatollah of Iran’s Islamic regime is promising that Western leaders will be executed by the Islamic messiah, the state-owned media outlet Mehr news reported Saturday.

“When Imam Zaman [‘Mahdi,’ the last Shiite Imam] comes, he will behead the Western leaders,” warned Ayatollah Mohammad Emami Kashani, the interim Friday prayer leader of Tehran and a member of the Assembly of Experts, the body that chooses the supreme leader. “However, Imam will not harm the oppressed nations,” he said.

The Shiite clerical establishment in Iran believes that at the end of times, the 12th Imam, Mahdi, a ninth century prophet, will reappear with Jesus Christ at his side, kill all the infidels and raise the flag of Islam in all four corners of the world.

A video revealed in 2011, “The Coming Is Upon Us,” showed regime intentions: change in the Middle East, destruction of Israel and the coming of Mahdi. The video, produced by the regime, was to be distributed in the Middle East.

Kashani compared the Western leaders as “tag rags” and criticized Europe’s foreign policy chief, Catherine Ashton, for her recent visit to Tehran in which she met with female dissidents. The purpose of Ashton’s visit was to discuss with regime officials the ongoing negotiations over Iran’s illicit nuclear program. However, in a sign of support for human rights, she met with several dissidents.

“They come to Iran, and in the name of human rights, they meet with this and that,” Kashani said. “However, they commit the most heinous crimes in the region and the world.”

U.N. human rights officials recently raised an alarm about violence against women, torture and at the pace of execution in Iran. In two and a half months of this year alone, 176 people have been hanged.

Meanwhile, the chief commander of the regime’s Quds Forces, Gen. Qasem Soleimani, has called the Islamic Republic the only country capable of leading the Islamic world.

“From a long time ago, countries like Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan claimed leadership of the Islamic world and tried very hard in that pursuit, but none of these countries except Iran is capable of accepting this great responsibility,” Soleimani said. “None of these countries is able to lead the Islamic world due to two key elements: support of fighters and Islamic movements, and defense of Muslims and Islam in the face of aggression on the Islamic world.”

Soleimani called the fall of Quds (Jerusalem) in 1967 the zero point of the Islamic world in its weakness and boasted of Iran’s power today and how it has changed the equation of power in the region and the world.

Soleimani had previously stated that President Barack Obama was not after regime change, but only because the U.S. can’t topple Iran.

“America in the last 35 years has committed the most cowardly and worst practices against the… Islamic Republic,” he said.

After his speech, the outlet of the Quds cyber forces officers posted an image of Obama wearing a Nazi field marshal’s uniform and surrendering with his hands on his head. The caption reads, “In the not too distant future… One [Gen. Qasem] Soleimani is enough for all the enemies of this country.”…

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  1. shrugger says

    Mar 17, 2014 at 10:37 am

    I’m conflicted as to whether beheading our Western Leaders would be an actual Bad thing. 8/

    • islamisdeath says

      Mar 17, 2014 at 2:51 pm

      Well the beheadings in my opinion would not be but life under Iran certainly would be.

    • Kepha says

      Mar 17, 2014 at 3:20 pm

      As someone who thinks that OBAMA means One-Big-@r$e-Mistake,-America, I confess to similar feelings.

      Well, anti-Americanism is the juice that seems to hold the Mullahocracy together. While I’d like to believe that there are loads and loads of Iranian dissidents of the non-Khalqi kind, I’m not sure that there are. Back in the ’50’s, we made the mistake of saving Southern Azerbaijan from the Soviet embrace (Mossadegh, that brave, patriotic lion against British interests, was a crippled quail when it came to Soviet machinations), and will probably pay the price for a long time to come. We lost our bet; modern Iran thinks the only standpoint it can have with us is hostility. Hence, while I’m no shill for war with Iran, and would welcome a genuine thawing of relations, my hope is that if Iran or one of their proxies (Hamas, Hezbollah, whatever), smuggles in something and touches it off in one of our cities, we’d have leaders who would have the 外卵to both impound any and all Iranian assets the USA could get its hands on and then, after a declaration of war, nuke Iran’s top twenty strategic and population centers.

      • Islamisdeath says

        Mar 17, 2014 at 5:24 pm

        Considering we will probably get Hillary of Cluelessia for our next Prez i doubt anything would be done if they bombed half our cities to rubble. Hope to God I am wrong.

      • Defcon 4 says

        Mar 17, 2014 at 10:45 pm

        @Kepha
        “Well, anti-Americanism is the juice that seems to hold the Mullahocracy together. ” That’s very unfair to the iranian islamic “republic”. As far as mottoes go, ‘death to Israel’ is practically equal in popularity to ‘death to america.’

    • Mr. Dude says

      Mar 17, 2014 at 8:49 pm

      Mohammad and Jesus did not understand nor advocate democracy (unlike Modern Secular Humanism does), so heck, if we believe the Abrahamic faiths are actually true then maybe we SHOULD be-head our democratically-elected Western leaders and turn it over to the Taliban, or the Christian Taliban, as Mohammad/Jesus seem to endorse (they approved of totalitarian political schemes – just read the Qur’an/Bible.)

      The word “democracy” is not found in the Qur’an or Bible, but “King” appears a whopping 400+ times in the Bible alone. They’ve had around 19 centuries to improve the Bible in that regard, and they’ve never done it. Don’t settle for mediocrity.

      • gravenimage says

        Mar 17, 2014 at 11:23 pm

        “Mr. Dude” has made his agenda quite explicit on other threads—that Christians and Jews not be allowed to criticize the sanguinary horror of Islam until they clear up every minute (supposed) contradiction of their faith.

        What would be the upshot? That no one who falls short of perfection (as defined by “Mr. Dude”, of course) would be able to oppose Islam.

        He is not really concerned about any real or imagined shortcomings of Christianity, and still less is he an actual secular humanist—instead, he wants to see any opposition to bloody Islam stymied.

        • Mr. Dude says

          Mar 17, 2014 at 11:54 pm

          No, I’d love to see Islam discredited today, right now, ASAP! Mohammad was a monster.

        • Mr. Dude says

          Mar 18, 2014 at 9:15 am

          No, I want to see ALL belief systems improved, and why not?

      • citycat says

        Mar 18, 2014 at 1:13 am

        “(….Modern Secular Humanism)”

        Not conventional—Not spiritual—Not divine

        is one mother of a boring image

        To say NOT god or NOT wotever is a mental clot in the mind

        have you looked behind the celestial body Pluto to check God is not there, or is it just a belief God is nowhere? anyway, digression

        Hasn’t the Modern Age gone, we’re in the Postmodern that started with “HOWL”?
        Isn’t that gone too?
        Where’s this age of enlightenment with its Harmony and Understanding
        Sympathy and Trust abounding
        Mystic crystal Revelations?
        Age of Darkness, more like, and Evil beyond Understanding,

        I think Modern Secular Humanism is like a religion, with fixed ideas about wot is NOT.

        It’s barely conceivable that it will solve Islam, that’s a long road round, Mankind, by then, will have evolved beyond ideas, either via Transcendence or by the illegalization of Ideas by Islam.

        Fate’s long bow, straight through the Vampire’s proverbial heart that’s glutted on Muslim Soul, is wot’s needed, The Sword of Truth, straight through, no messing. This is real war.

    • leonore says

      Mar 18, 2014 at 7:10 am

      Waht are you smoking or are you just an idiot?

  2. Blitz2b says

    Mar 17, 2014 at 11:02 am

    You are right shrugger. I can think of at least half a dozen of our western cowarditicians whose heads deserve to roll, with the traitor-in- Chief to lead these dhimmified useful idiots to the chopping block…

  3. ebonystone says

    Mar 17, 2014 at 11:04 am

    While I certainly don’t want to have 0bama beheaded — impeachment and imprisonment for, say, ten years would be fine — there would be a certain delicious irony in him being beheaded by his Moslem buddies, whose interests he’s done so much to promote.

    • shrugger says

      Mar 17, 2014 at 12:46 pm

      You’re right. I pray everyday for Barry’s continued good health and that he lives a long life……..without parole.

    • gravenimage says

      Mar 19, 2014 at 8:10 pm

      Ebonystone wrote:

      While I certainly don’t want to have 0bama beheaded — impeachment and imprisonment for, say, ten years would be fine — there would be a certain delicious irony in him being beheaded by his Moslem buddies, whose interests he’s done so much to promote.
      …………………………

      I realize you were being flippant, Ebonystone—but I can think of few things that would embolden Jihadists more than successfully beheading the leader of the “Great Satan”.

      The reality that Obama is an enabler and appeaser of Islam would get lost in their supremacist glee over the bloody act itself.

  4. Jay Boo says

    Mar 17, 2014 at 11:14 am

    Anti-Israel Holocaust denying Iran should be the last to use the Nazi metaphor.
    Do they real hate Israel that much or are they trying to ingratiate themselves with the rest of the Islamofascist world.

    REPOST
    Every now and then Iran’s Muslims seem to have a need to offer up a self-imposed loyalty test to show that they are still Muslim just like their Sunni neighbors and prove that they have not drifted into wayward apostasy.
    Ayatollahs wear their fancy hats a bit tighter and their yoke of Islam just a bit higher.
    From flamboyant fatwa to honor killing flagellation for the sake of ‘Allah’
    Iran’s Muslims have a perverse codependent inner conflict that sometimes makes them act just a bit nuttier.

    • Defcon 4 says

      Mar 17, 2014 at 2:41 pm

      A “bit nuttier”? Than whom? Soddy Barbaria? Sunni Soddy Barbaria had a man and woman executed for practicing sorcery and witchcraft within the last 3 years.
      In Sunni Soddy Barbaria the police forced girls back into their burning school to die because they were improperly dressed. In Sunni Soddy Barbaria a young woman who converted to Christianity had her tongue cut out and was burned alive by her own family members and no police investigation was initiated because it was not a crime.

      • Jay Boo says

        Mar 18, 2014 at 1:31 am

        The Saudis are nutty too but at least they don’t flaunt it as much as Iran’s regime does.
        The Regime is proud of their nutty behavior because it proves they are still relevant in the Muslim world
        Iran appears to be in a slight remission in recent years but don’t be surprised when another Khomeini comes along.
        Iran flaunts its hangings and hints at bringing back the return of stoning .
        The temporary lull in fatwas won’t last.
        Then there is the blatant denial of the holocaust.
        Let’s not forget the public weeping displays.
        Even the Saudis don’t perform self-flagellation to show their piety.
        The Shia are the laughing stock of Islam.

  5. mortimer says

    Mar 17, 2014 at 11:34 am

    Is this ‘behead’ message in fact a fatwa commissioning all Muslims to be vigilante killers? Similar to the fatwa against Rushdie?

    Is the leading cleric in Iran inviting all Muslims to assassinate most world leaders? Should the CIA, FBI and other police agencies be concerned?

    Should Western immigration policies change when there is a GOVERNMENT that supports POLITICAL ASSASSINATIONS of their politicians?

    • bobm says

      Mar 17, 2014 at 11:43 am

      @ Mortimer; that sir is a good starting place to open the gates wide to islam for most western governments.. … insanity. and to make their own homeless to accommodate them.

  6. Walter Sieruk says

    Mar 17, 2014 at 2:05 pm

    The belief of this kind of Islam in the coming Islamic messiah who is called the Mahdi or Twelfth Imam the many Muslim believe will some back and then conquer the whole word for Islam is one of the reasons that the Islam clerics in power in Iran seek to obtain then use nuclear weapons. For according this their type of Islam this character will only come when things get worse in the Middle East and not better. That where W.M.D. come in. This kind of mindset is very hard for most Westerners to understand . For this absurd belief is based not on reason or logic but in Islamic fanaticism. Nevertheless, that is the dangerous way of thinking[belief] of the mullahs and other Islamic clerics in power in Iran. Furthermore, they also want W.M.D. because the State of Israel, which they call the little Satan and they also hate the United States which they call the Great Satan. any so called “dialogue” between the officials of the six word powers and the officials with the Muslim clerics in supreme power in Iran, the officials of these Islamic clerics will be very disingenuous and be lying as well as speaking half-truths. They will say the whole truth only when it happens to suit the and no other time. For they do know how to dissimulate. As Thomas Jefferson explained “An enemy generally says and believes what he wishes.” Moreover, as the this strange far-fetched nonsensical belief in a coming Mahdi that has so much power over the thinking of those who have great power in Iran. That matters not just how little sense this belief really makes. Rouhani. Ayatollah Khamenei the the mullahs have this dangerous belief and cannot be reasoned with. For religious fanatics cannot be reasoned with. Religious fanatics will not respond to reason and religious fanatics they are. As Benjamin Franklin printed in POOR RICHARD’S ALMANACK “The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason.’

    • Defcon 4 says

      Mar 17, 2014 at 2:46 pm

      WRT Ben Franklin’s comment. Isaac Newton (a scientist who actually did science, unlike Franklin) believed in G-d, as did Einstein.

    • Bezelel says

      Mar 17, 2014 at 4:38 pm

      Just a hunch, but I think Ben was referring to recognition of Acts of Divine Providence. As in defying the laws of physics. Note, Ben was not speaking from an inverted sense of good and evil, IMHO

    • Mr. Dude says

      Mar 17, 2014 at 8:53 pm

      “For religious fanatics cannot be reasoned with.”
      You mean like people that are so fanatical, and so out of touch with reality, that they steadfastly refuse to believe the world is NOT 6000 years-old like their religious texts imply? If we can’t reason with people that believe the earth is 6000 years old, then maybe it’s time that they, and their fellow Abrahamic-faith followers, start looking for a more reality-based belief system? Your thoughts?

      • islamisdeath says

        Mar 18, 2014 at 12:31 am

        You are so tedious and most of what you post is just drivel. Personally i think you are a muslim troll.

        The vast majority of Christians are aware the world is more than 6000 years old.

        • Mr. Dude says

          Mar 18, 2014 at 9:06 am

          Too bad Jesus/Mohammad weren’t really “divine”, or they would have said 3 little words that would have helped the world immensely: “Genesis got it wrong”.

          If YOU had their supposed super-powers, islamisdeath, would YOU have said those 3 little words, to help the world out, or kept silent like they did, and sat up in heaven laughing down at many Muslim/Christians for being so stupid (to think the earth is 6000 years old.) Dawkins would of course say those 3 words. How about you?

          PS Show me one Muslim who calls Mohammad a PEDOPHILE like I do. I’m not a Muslim. I believe in science/reality too much to be a member of an Abrahamic faith.

        • Mr. Dude says

          Mar 18, 2014 at 9:07 am

          In other words: MOHAMMAD/JESUS didn’t know the earth is now not 6000 years old, or they would of course have spoken up.

        • Mr. Dude says

          Mar 18, 2014 at 9:26 am

          Can you just be honest with us and admit that the Bible got it wrong (Genesis)? If you can’t, then I’d suggest you start reading “The God Delusion” by Dawkins (saw).

          Most Christians (or “pro-Christian” non Christians) can not do that, as they feel they would be upsetting Jesus, who never rebuked the Genesis story about his dad, and who in Matt 5:17 said that he had come to FULFILL the old laws.

          Allah/Jesus, like the US gov’t, know what goes on at this web site/forum of course, so if they really cared about their “children” then they’d of course clear this all up (or are they not all-powerful?) They’ve had 2000 years to do it, but refuse to help out. Bigfoot and Santa are the same as Allah/Jesus are in this way, for some very very strange reason…..hmmmmmmm.

  7. Mr. Dude says

    Mar 17, 2014 at 8:37 pm

    “The Shiite clerical establishment in Iran believes that at the end of times, the 12th Imam, Mahdi, a ninth century prophet, will reappear with Jesus Christ at his side, kill all the infidels and raise the flag of Islam in all four corners of the world.”

    The Abrahamic faiths, two of which believe that this “Jesus” fellow will return and kill a bunch of folks (Revelation in the Bible and the very similar Islamic beliefs mentioned in the article), are clearly so far out of touch with reality that they pose a clear and present danger to the world. A better alternative is a belief system that embraces reality, and doesn’t teach that jinns are real, invisible people with wings are real, talking snakes are real, etc.

    It’s time the world got in touch with reality once and for all….we see the consequences of not having faith in reality.
    Have “faith”, just not in a magic man in the sky (Allah, Jesus, Thor, etc.), but in reality. People with invisible friends, who say that THEY are better than other people, are too crazy to be trusted with nukes.

    • Defcon 4 says

      Mar 18, 2014 at 12:22 pm

      Just because muhahahahamad said his was an Abrahmic faith doesn’t make it true. I can say you’re an idiot and a liar, but that doesn’t make it true.

  8. Mr. Dude says

    Mar 17, 2014 at 8:42 pm

    “The Shiite clerical establishment in Iran believes that at the end of times, the 12th Imam, Mahdi, a ninth century prophet, will reappear with Jesus Christ at his side, kill all the infidels and raise the flag of Islam in all four corners of the world.”

    TWO magic invisible people magically returning to save us all (if we bow down to the religion, that is! – it always comes at the price of logic and reason!) is not that much different than ONE magic invisible person magically returning to save us all (Jesus.) So Islam is of course not that much different than Christianity.

    Dawkins, on the other hand, being guided by reason and science like he and Sam Harris et al are, looks like a much better way to go.

    Christians can’t criticize Islam because their belief system has more crazy stuff that Islam, it does appear. No Jinns, but a talking donkey. No splitting of the moon, but the earth being 6000 years old. There is a better way.

    • gravenimage says

      Mar 18, 2014 at 12:03 am

      “Mr. Dude” wrote:

      Christians can’t criticize Islam because their belief system has more crazy stuff that Islam
      ……………………………….

      This is the numb of “Mr. Dude’s” message—all else if empty verbiage.

      He wants Christians—and Jews, but they are pretty much an afterthought for “Mr. Dude”—to roll over for the horrors of islam, including these threats of beheadings.

      And, moreover, he wants them to surrender on the false basis that they are no better than those who seek to be their oppressive Mohammedan overlords.

      • gravenimage says

        Mar 18, 2014 at 12:06 am

        “Numb”, should, of course, be “nub”.

  9. Mr. Dude says

    Mar 17, 2014 at 9:02 pm

    Christians and Muslims arguing over whether Jesus will return with the 12th Imam, or whether he will return w/OUT the 12th Imam, is like kids arguing over whether Santa will return next year with, or without, Rudolph. If you think the 12th Imam returning is crazy, then realize that ANYBODY returning from the dead is equally as crazy. Shiite Muslims are no crazier than the followers of the other Abrahamic faiths, it can be argued, from that one standpoint at least.
    But I could be wrong, so tell me where.

  10. Mr. Dude says

    Mar 17, 2014 at 9:52 pm

    Philip, I guess my main point is that there’s no more evidence for Jesus’ return than for the return of the 12th Imam, or for the return of Elvis.

  11. gravenimage says

    Mar 18, 2014 at 1:09 am

    *This* is what the sand-throwing “Mr. Dude” would have us forget:

    Leading ayatollah in new moderate Iran: the Twelfth Imam “will behead Western leaders”
    ………………………………..

    Our appeasement has just further emboldened the Mullahs.

    More:

    “After his speech, the outlet of the Quds cyber forces officers posted an image of Obama wearing a Nazi field marshal’s uniform and surrendering with his hands on his head…
    ………………………………..

    Projection.

    More:

    “When Imam Zaman [‘Mahdi,’ the last Shiite Imam] comes, he will behead the Western leaders”…“However, Imam will not harm the oppressed nations,” he said.
    ………………………………..

    The “oppressed nations” almost certainly refers to other Muslim countries. In other words, the Ayatollah is trying to reassure Sunnis that the kid in the well is probably going to spare *them*.

    More:

    The Shiite clerical establishment in Iran believes that at the end of times, the 12th Imam, Mahdi, a ninth century prophet, will reappear with Jesus Christ at his side, kill all the infidels and raise the flag of Islam in all four corners of the world.
    ………………………………..

    Well, not exactly> This is not “Jesus Christ”, but the vicious Muslim “Isa”. The main Infidels he is going to kill per Islam are *Christians*.

    More:

    “They come to Iran, and in the name of human rights, they meet with this and that,” Kashani said. “However, they commit the most heinous crimes in the region and the world.”
    ………………………………..

    And what would those “heinous crimes” be? Why, occasional and inconsistent defense against Jihad. What gall! sarc/off

    More:

    Meanwhile, the chief commander of the regime’s Quds Forces, Gen. Qasem Soleimani, has called the Islamic Republic the only country capable of leading the Islamic world.

    “From a long time ago, countries like Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan claimed leadership of the Islamic world and tried very hard in that pursuit, but none of these countries except Iran is capable of accepting this great responsibility…”
    ………………………………..

    More jockeying for power. Despite setbacks in Syria, Shi’ite Iran want to posit itself as the leader of the Islamic world.

    And note, “Quds” is the Muslim name for Jerusalem, which they plan on taking when they destroy civilized Israel.

    • Bezelel says

      Mar 18, 2014 at 8:42 am

      @gravenimage,You may have noticed mr dude not only makes pointless and false statements, he repeats them over and over and over, like his Salvation depends on it.

  12. Lujack Skylark says

    Mar 18, 2014 at 8:12 am

    There are beheadings taking place now. There will be beheadings taking place later. (Revelation 20:4) These executions are hidden by the world’s media now. These executions will become daily entertainment during the anti-Christ’s reign.

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Apr 2, 2014 at 10:41 pm

      Mate, there hasn’t been an uptick in Muslim beheadings, it’s just that we in the modern West (having largely forgotten about it) have had it brought to our notice again. The mass beheadings have been going on steadily for 1400 years, throughout the Islamic world, both within it (in pogroms against dhimmi communities, and deemed unislamic Muslims) and in all of its jihads against next-door neighbours. There are accounts of jihad in Central Asia and India – and in the Balkans – in the middle ages and on through to the 18th century (and 19th century – Bulgaria, and in the 20th century the genocide of the Armenians) that involve the creation of actual *towers of skulls*.

  13. Change Iran Now says

    Mar 18, 2014 at 9:54 pm

    The Mullahs’ regime in Iran prepare for the return of Islamic Messiah as they slay infidels. They are asserting that Armageddon is at hand and that the Islamic regime’s followers, indeed all of Islam, must prepare for a monumental change in the world, their claim awaits until they get the nuke bomb.The West must not be fooled by the Mullahs’ charm offensive campaign.

  14. dumbledoresarmy says

    Apr 2, 2014 at 11:04 pm

    For those who may come in late.

    The troll or dementor, “Mr Dude” , who may not necessarily be what he claims to be but, rather, a Mohammedan in a mask seeking to demoralise and to create confusion, constantly repeats the phrase “Abrahamic faiths”, thereby continuing to attempt to lump together Judaism and Christianity and Islam as somehow “the same”.

    The “Abrahamic faiths” meme is a big favourite of ‘interfaith’ snake-oil salesmen and Muslim da’wa artists who are trying to pull the wool over the eyes of naive Jews and Christians and persuade them that Islam is nothing to be afraid of.

    It was originally promulgated in the West by a well-trained dhimmi Islamochristian from Lebanon, but the core concept is Islamic: for in fact *Islam* pretends to be the “true” or “real” or “original” faith of “Ibrahim” and whenever anyone with commonsense points out the glaring points of difference between Islamic beliefs and practices and scriptures, on the one hand, and Jewish and Christian beliefs and practices and scriptures, on the other, the Muslims accuse the *Jews* and the *Christians* of having *altered* their scriptures in order to make them different from those of the Muslims!!

    (To get a handle on what the Muslims are here doing to the Jews and the Christians, imagine it as being like someone doing an ugly and badly-written foefic/ rewrite of the Harry Potter novels, completely altering all sorts of key plot points and turning Harry’s character into something almost as nasty as Voldemort, and then suing J K Rowling for plagiarism whilst loudly asserting that *their* nasty foefic was the real story, the unaltered original and *hers* was the messed-up knockoff).

    To repeat: the basic meme ‘Abrahamic faith’ is *Islamic*; no Christian and no Jew used it until it was imported into their world in the 20th century by, as I said before, a dhimmi Lebanese Christian.

    For a detailed, readable, clear and *brief* analysis of the radical disjunction – and indeed antithesis – between (on the one hand) the two biblical faiths and, on the other hand, Islam, the pretender, see Mark Durie’s little book “Revelation? Do We Worship the Same God? Jesus, God, Holy Spirit in Christianity and Islam”.

    Here’s the Jewish scholar, Bat Yeor, reviewing Durie’s book and summarising some of the main points:

    http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/219405/which-one-god/bat-yeor

    BAT YEOR

    DECEMBER 4, 2006 7:58 A.M.
    Which One God?
    Comparing the Muslim and Christian conceptions of God.

    Click on the link and read: well worthwhile.

    Furthermore: the disjunction between Islam and the biblical faiths has also been noticed and discussed by the Jewish philosopher Franz Rosenzweig, who classed Judaism and Christianity together as one kind of thing, and placed Islam, as a completely different kind of thing, among the ‘pagan’ or, to put it different, ‘non-biblical’, belief systems; and by Jacques Ellul, who does an excellent job of demolishing the “abrahamic faiths” canard in his essay, “Les Trois Piliers Du Conformisme”, “the three pillars of conformity”.

    Australia’s Rev Dr Mark Durie expounds on the subject in his essay, “The Abrahamic Fallacy”.

    http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm/blog_id/51787
    Friday, 31 January 2014
    The Abrahamic Fallacy

    I find it deeply suspicious that, over and over, in exactly the manner of a propagandist repeating a Big Lie, “Mr Dude” insists on pushing this “abrahamic faiths” line.

    If “Mr Dude” were *really* against Islam, he would be *dead against* using a phrase that originates in the thought-world of Islam; he would *not* be using the enemy’s language and thus perpetuating memes invented by the enemy.

  15. dumbledoresarmy says

    Apr 2, 2014 at 11:19 pm

    Again, for those who came in late, I observe that in one of his postings above, the purported atheist and Distractor/ Disruptor, ‘Mr Dude’, engaging in false moral equivalence, claims that “People with invisible friends, who say that THEY are better than other people, are too crazy to be trusted with nukes.”

    Between the lines, I would bet, he means to be understood as saying that majority-Christian USA and the Jewish state of Israel are “too crazy to be trusted with nukes”.

    So, in a world in which Islamic Pakistan has nukes and Islamic Iran is rushing to acquire them, and in which totalitarian atheist Communist China and batsh*t-crazy North Korea (which murders every Christian it can find within its borders) have nukes, ‘Mr Dude’ is primarily getting his knickers in a twist about the existence of nukes in the arsenals of Israel, the USA, and some other nominally/ culturally Christian (but politically secular) countries such as France and Britain, as well as politically-secular majority-Hindu India? Or perhaps he thinks American nukes and israeli nukes are much more dangerous than Chinese nukes, or that during the Cold War the atheist Russian Communist nukes were somehow safer than those held by the USA?

    If Mr Dude thinks Israel, because it is majority Jewish, should be stripped of its nukes, Mr Dude essentially believes that the Jews should be stripped naked, tied hand and foot, and handed over to the howling mobs of the Ummah, to be butchered wholesale.

    Here is what former jihadwatch regular “Hugh Fitzgerald” had to say, back in 2010, on the subject of Israel’s nukes, and on the subject of those who – like Mr Dude above – deplore them:

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/05/us-backs-resolution-to-disarm-israel.html

    Hugh | May 31, 2010 12:22 PM | Reply
    “Look, the whole thing is very simple.

    “There are 350 million Arabs [99.9 percent Muslim – dda], who control 22 states and a land area more than a thousand times the area of Israel.

    “There is Islam-maddened mahdi-maddened Iran, with a land area by itself twenty or thirty times the size of Israel.

    “There are the vast oil resources that is a gift that keeps on giving, to Arabs and Iranians alike — some thirteen trillion dollars since 1973 alone — money that pays for diplomatic assaults, propaganda aided and abetted by Western hirelings, some of them true Believers and antisemites, others merely in it for the money.

    “More than a trillion of that money has gone to buy Western arms, and to pay for projects related to nuclear weapons, and other weapons of mass destruction.

    “If you want Israel to survive, then you have to understand that there will never ever be a day when Israel can afford to give up its nuclear arsenal. Never.

    “If you are murderously hostile to Israel [and that, I fear, is Mr Dude’s real position – dda], or merely coldly and cruelly indifferent to its fate, then you will pretend not to understand this, and will aid and abet those Arabs and other Muslims who recognize that in order to destroy Israel they must first get rid of its nuclear arsenal.

    “That will not bring peace but certain war, and the war will be one of Israel’s destruction, and the mass killing — have no doubt about it — of the Jews of Israel.

    “That’s it. There is nothing else you need to know.

    “Those who call for a nuclear-free Middle East are calling for the destruction of the Jews of Israel.

    “End of story.”

    And here is the same subject, put in a nutshell, in one devastatingly brilliant cartoon image:

    http://drybonesblog.blogspot.com/2010/05/by-popular-request.html

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