How did a Muslim cleric get the crazy idea that his jihad against China should have something to do with killing Chinese people? Where did he get the idea that beheading was something “good” in the eyes of Allah? Could it have been from Qur’an 47:4, which tells Muslims to “strike at the necks” of the unbelievers? Naah — that couldn’t be it. To think that would be “Islamophobic.”
“VIDEO: Cleric of Chinese Muslim (Uighur) Group Threatens Chinese And Buddhists: ‘Killing You… Slaughtering You… And Cutting Off Your Heads Is All Good,'” from MEMRI, February 25 (thanks to Pamela Geller):
On February 24, 2014, the Turkestan Islamic Party (TIP) released a video-recorded message titled “We Are Coming O Buddhists.” The message is presented by Sheikh Abu Dhar ‘Azzam, who extols the acts of the foreign fighters (muhajireen) coming from Eastern Turkestan and calls upon Muslims to support them with money and men. Addressing the “Chinese and Buddhists,” Abu Dhar warns them of dire punishment for their crimes against Muslims and Islam, and says that killing them and shedding their blood is “good.”
Angemon says
Where are the mendacious, grievance-mongering taqiyya artists who said all JW readers were western white racist, imperialist islamophobes because liveleak reported it as a jihadi attack now?
Champ says
Exactly, Angemon! …yeah where’s that mouthy “Mazo” now? I expect his apology tour to start any moment now / sarc.
Champ says
…oh and lets not forget about “WatchDawg”; he will chime in with his taqiyya doo-doo, too. And they call them “taqiyya artists” implying that they’re *good* at lying; but “WatchDawg” and “Mazo” aren’t very convincing liars. Yeah they each get high marks for lying, but failing grades for artistic achievement with regards to the lies they’re telling. Their lousy liars! lol!
Champ says
oops: they’re lousy liars! 🙂
mortimer says
Yes, his statements are repetitions of slogans overheard in the mosque. It’s ‘persecutory delusion’ or ‘querulous paranoia’.
The sense of aggrieved entitlement and indignant supremacism oozes from Dawg’s every remark. His message is: ‘I am in charge here. Bow down to our hegemony. Allah demands it.’
But Dawg, how do you know that? What is the evidence that you are in charge? Did Mohammed exist?
mortimer says
Oh, the Islamophobia of it!
“We Are Coming, O Buddhists.”
Well, do Buddhists feel ‘Islamophobic’ now? Or are they justifiably alarmed that the beheadings may start at dawn? The house fires will begin immediately.
mortimer says
Would Esposito please explain to the Buddhists that they have nothing to fear?
It’s just phobia? The bombs won’t hurt them?
eib says
Yes, where is Professor John on this issue?
eib says
And maybe Juan Cole would care to chime in too.
James Burton says
Addressing the “Chinese and Buddhists,” Abu Dhar warns them of dire punishment for their crimes against Muslims and Islam, and says that killing them and shedding their blood is “good.”
What crimes? Defending themselves from them in the first place? What are they/anyone supposed to do when those evil murderers come knocking in our neighborhoods; let them have their way?
jeffpresidentlo says
At least the Chinese gov and army won‘t give a damn abt this junkie‘s rhetoric. This video was probably a pretext of the Kunming attack.
Angemon says
Is it just me or dawggie here seems to have a hard-on for Robert?
Champ says
lol!! yep 😀
Pig Dawg says
Majority of Chinese don’t strictly follow religion.
Therefore anyone picking a fight with them should first consider that they will not be fighting by the “rules of war” that the Christians have established in the west.
It is Christian values that have allowed terrorist to flourish.
The Chinese will use a different approach I am sure.
It is time the west stopped fighting the islamists battles for them & just left them to clean up their own mess.
Medina says
Pig Dawg, A Christian is not a doormat, and Christianity is what threw Islam out of Europe, and kept it out for centuries. We are seeing phony Christian liberals in the west today. Detesting evil and protecting yourself is not inconsistent with a Christian life.
Salah says
@Medina
“Detesting evil and protecting yourself is not inconsistent with a Christian life.”
Agree 100%. Jesus is neither a hippie nor a pacifist.
http://crossmuslims.blogspot.ca/2013/07/ann-barnhardt-jesus-guns.html
Angemon says
@Medina
Detesting evil and protecting yourself is not inconsistent with a Christian life.
Indeed. Saint Augustine created the “just war” theory (don’t spaz out yet dawggie, just as in “justified”) back in the 4th century. Basically, what he said was that starting a war for loot, booty and profit was wrong, but that didn’t meant that picking up weapons to defend oneself was wrong. In case of necessity, violence could be met with violence in order to protect peace and christians shouldn’t be ashamed of defending themselves or another. In fact, not doing anything when faced with a wrong situation that could only be stopped by violence would be a sin.
kikorikid says
While I do not use the Bible as my singular shield
it does contain great amounts of useful advice, currently,my favorite
is:
Eccl 3: “There is a time to gather stones.”
The Quran is explicit in targeting Christians and Jews, People of
the Book, but that special designation only gives Christians and
Jews “Head of the line privileges” to get their heads cut off.
The Imam,here, is only shouting to hear himself as Chinese and
Bhuddist are already covered as “Non-believers”. Several
writers, here, have pointed out the profound difference that
the Chinese govt. may employ in dealing with Jihad in China.
My best guess is that they will use ruthless extermination.
A most proper approach!
Shane Von Russell says
I’m just surprised that the Russians and Chinese haven’t reacted with a more iron fist against jihadist. They don’t seem to be bound by the PC shackles that we in the West are. Plus, they are tyrannical to begin with. I wonder what their breaking point is?
PJG says
“I wonder what their breaking point is?”
I have noticed that China is not immune to the halal-labelling racket.
The Chinese Muslim population is at least 60 million.
Not so long ago, ALL religion was suppressed in China.
Is there money to be made here? Somehow?
panther says
Money talks.
Chinese govt. & people in general are so engrossed with accumulating wealth -their business interests lies with Saudis & other oil producing nations and North African states, where they are funding & arming both sides of the conflict- that it’s highly unlikely they’ll ever show the former crushing power, the kind of they did back in 1989 at Tiananmen square.
Ideologically yes, they could successfully resist & defeat these muhammedans but in today’s world where money is supreme and the ultimate goal, Chinese may have to tone down their actions to save their business interests with the moslem world.
voegelinian says
Apparently they are inhibited. If China and Russia were not bound by PC MC, they would have rounded up all Muslims and deported them, then enforced their resultant absence. The fact that they haven’t — and Russia has been plagued by horrible terror attacks (several times in the heart of Moscow) for decades.
Really, JWers have to stop these tendencies they have to make sweeping assumptions (such as “Well, those Chinese will take care of them Muzzies by Gum!”).
voegelinian says
The fact that they haven’t shows that the vicarious bravado about Russians and Chinese indulged by JWers is unfounded.
Burkasrugly says
I’m totally against communism, but this is one time when I hope the hard-core commie Chinese government cracks down with an iron fist on these Islamic criminals. However, as evil as the ChiComs are, they are really no match for the Muslims.
duh_swami says
Hmmm I wonder if this odd fellow, watchdawg is a relative, or maybe an employee of R Aslan? Some of those talking points sound familiar. Of course all Mahoundian talking points sound familiar because they only have few that they repeat over and over. It’s a form of group echolalia. As far as I know, the only cure for this is apostasy.
That may not be the case with China, who is really good at creative punishments. I would be surprised f they did nothing but complain…
citycat says
I hope China sets an example of how to deal with them.
Nothosaur says
China has a horrible reputation for abusing its people to maintain loyalty to the State and to diminish loyalty to the competing interests that a person may have — for example, Falun Gong practioners were pulled through the street by their hair, Christian missionaries were imprisoned, etc.
My wife, father-in-law, & mother-in-law all lived in China, so I’ve heard many such stories firsthand.
So, I was skeptical about Chinese muslim culpability when I first read about the clashes between them and the State.
However, this story is very powerful evidence that this is only business as usual for muslim supremecists. Motivation for violence is the same: following the “excellent example of conduct” of Mohamud.
Same as in the middle east. Same as in Africa.
Same as in Europe.
Same as in Russia.
Same as in North America
Same as it ever was.
Same as it ever was.
Medina says
Nothosaur, since you have first hand information, can you say if any religious groups in China ever launched the sort of mass, violent attack as the Muslims have? I had Catholic relatives there until 2009 who sometimes attended the patriotic church and would never have attended a house church or private mass for fear of reprisals. If there have ever been any religiously-motivated attacks in mainland China (and I do not mean civil disobedience), they were not publicized.
Maybe our friend Muzzo will troll by with some taquiyya.
Nothosaur says
I haven’t heard of any such stories. Most of what they tell me is from the cultural revolution and some things afterwards. Of course, nobody has guns over there except the State. If people had gun, then all sorts of groups with nothing to lose would certainly revolt.
This muslim supremecist seems to have the plain, original 1400-year old motivation, though.
bobm says
Go ahead islam; provoke non muslim Asia, the west, the Russians.. you must indeed have a death wish. I these power blocks ever ally against you; every military asset you have will be dust in a week.. and half your population too if you move en mass…. the ONLY reason you exist as a viable threat now is oil; ad the mistrust of the big 3 of each other….. your oil fields would long ago have been taken from you…. no problem.
eib says
Long live the Middle Kingdom.
I pray for the mandate of heaven, I pray for the centering of China on her own issues.
Islam threatens, not from Tibet, but from China’s very heart.
Roger says
I don t think that Allah so weak need us to kill his creature by his name
The devil who ask us to kill , because we are not his creature
eib says
Only the devil commands murder.
War is a different reality. God understands self-preservation.
Savvy1 says
For every victim of terrorism, 25 terrorists need to pay with their lives. The terrorist’s families should be responsible for all money damages to the victim’s families. Reasonable retribution for terrorist behavior!
eib says
Makes some sense. I’ve always felt that if terrorism carried a high price in blood and life lost for the terrorist cells, they’d stop.
Rakkasan187 says
Allah is a “MOAB” embrace him with open arms 😉
Mazo says
Newsflash- the Uyghur separatist TIP regularly releases these kind of videos threatening violence every month on their media network “awazi”, its just that MEMRI chose to translate this particular video now.
The Chinese government does not give a damn what these freaks say, nor what JWatchers say.
And every single member of TIP is a Uyghur or central asian foreigner (Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan is their ally), not one other member of other Muslim ethnic groups in China (Hui, Dongxiang, and Salar) has ever joined the TIP or participated in terrorism against China, and those other Muslims have never expressed separatist views.
This fight is a Uyghur fight only, but some of our ugly minded JWatchers want to cause troubles in other parts of China against Muslims who have done nothing violent.
PJG says
A few people on Jihad Watch making assumptions about Hui (etc) Muslims in China does not amount to anyone “causing trouble” against those Muslims. Get a grip.
On the other hand, seemingly innocent and peaceful Muslims here and there in the world HAVE BEEN KNOWN to flare up when “radicalised” by visiting Arab Muslims. One day Arab Muslims will notice those quiet Hui Muslims and feel they are not doing enough for the International Jihad Project and one thing may well lead to another. The Chinese Muslims read the same texts, after all, and doubtless think the prophet to be “perfect”. Resisting “radicalisation” is, in some quarters, heresy, is it not?
gravenimage says
Mazo wrote:
Newsflash- the Uyghur separatist TIP regularly releases these kind of videos threatening violence every month on their media network “awazi”, its just that MEMRI chose to translate this particular video now…
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The implication being, of course, that such threats are pro forma and mean nothing. The only problem with this is that Jihad in China has been *anything* but theoretical. In fact, Muslim violence in China has been marked.
More:
The Chinese government does not give a damn what these freaks say, nor what JWatchers say.
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Again, this would only make sense if this were nothing but empty saber rattling, but it is not. Or is Mazo trying to imply that China does not care if their people are slaughtered and their power is challenged? Chinese responses to these attacks gives the lie to this idea.
And China has indicated that she is dismayed that much of the Western press downplays the idea that these attacks are terrorism—so the claim that this is of no interest to China is false as well.
More:
And every single member of TIP is a Uyghur or central asian foreigner (Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan is their ally), not one other member of other Muslim ethnic groups in China (Hui, Dongxiang, and Salar) has ever joined the TIP or participated in terrorism against China, and those other Muslims have never expressed separatist views…
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Even were this true—and it is debatable—it would not in any way diminish the threat China faces from Islam in the form of the Uigers. The threat of Jihad has waxed and waned with this and that group of Muslims over the centuries—but it never goes away.
I suppose that Mazo is trying to imply that the Jihad the Uigers are waging has nothing to do with Islam—but they themselves have made it quite clear that they are motivated by Islam.
More:
This fight is a Uyghur fight only, but some of our ugly minded JWatchers want to cause troubles in other parts of China against Muslims who have done nothing violent.
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More ludicrous Muslim victim mongering—the idea that Jihadists attacking police stations and slaughtering civilians in train stations in China is of no concern, but that a mythical “backlash” caused by Western Jihad Watchers half a world away is.
These claims of fear of an Infidel “backlash” are even more ridiculous than usual—and that is saying a great deal.
Mazo says
China does not care what the freaks at awazi say, because they do not control Uyghurs on the ground. Those TIP Uyghurs at Awazi show off themselves with AK-47s and RPG-7s, because they are not in China, but in north Waziristan, fighting alongside the IMU and TTP against the Pakistani government. They once videoed themelves in a gun market in North Waziristan.
The Uyghurs actually committing attacks in China are armed with knives/bladed weapons, I can’t recall a single incident where they were armed with guns. They are not supplied by militants from Waziristan.
kikorikid says
I’m being censored here. You just prohibited a
statement I have not made before in this or
any other “thread”etc under the banner of
“It looks like a duplicate statement.” I have said
nothing like it and have never addressed the
“Chinese-Bhuddist” anywhere. Why is
this being done?????? Email me. Please explain.
If you want no input from Kikorikid just be honest
and truthfull to me and I will cease and desist.
Walter Sieruk says
The reason the this Muslim clerics would say the “killing you… slaughtering you… is all good.” Is because he is very deluded in to believing that the hoax of a book which is the Quran is some kind of book from God. So thus his mind and soul are warped by this heinous and murderous book. Even one of my earlier postings had exposes the Quran to be a Hoax. As for this Islamic cleric, the Quran does teach in Sura 47;4. “Whenever you encounter the unbelievers strike off their heads until you make a great slaughter among them…” Thus from the Muslim viewpoint that the Quran is true the Islamic mindset would indeed think that such murderous actions are ” all good.” Moreover, it should be restated the Quran is a deceptive work of “the cunning and craftiness of men in their deceitful scheming.” The Bible, Ephesians 4:14. [N.I.V.]
esek says
Uig. Muslims are allowed to have more children than an Chinese.China allowed 50000 Imams to learn Islam in Turkey-thats the discrimination of Muslims!
Edward Monette says
This report and image total deception. As much as I hate jihadists and muslim terrorists I hate opportunist to frame some vulnerable communities, Uighurs are originally believers of Tengrism and Buddhism, 12th century onwards significant number of Uighurs adopted christianity. However during the illegal occupation of their lands, Han Chinese Muslim warlords forced them to convert to islam. Uighur christians, shamans and buddhists have been slaughtered ruthlessly.
Uighurs are much hated by muslim world due to their refusal to adopt islamic law. They are being called kaffirs (infidels) by muslims countries. genocide against uighurs very much supported by Saudi arabia and pakistan.
China is today’s number one suppoter of jihadists, islamist and maoist terrorist organizations.
The capture from photo is a pakistani who hates uighurs but close ally of china, He has close connections with other terrorist organizations targets western individuals by sponsorship of china.
Whoever made this report creating deception. Especially for those clueless idiots who don’t know about uighurs easily buy this lie.