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Philippines: Muslims celebrate MILF’s peace with government; Christians at site of jihad massacre less excited

Mar 28, 2014 6:26 am By Robert Spencer

PhilippinesMuslimwomen“Just last September — while the deal was being drawn up — Muslim rebels opposed to the process held several residents of the coastal village hostage during a six-day standoff. The incident sparked fierce clashes that saw 56 people killed and more than 60,000 displaced, many of whom still live in camps in the city today.” Those “clashes” were jihad actions, and so the Christians of Zamboanga City understandably oppose efforts to make the city part of the new Muslim autonomous region. But if the Zamboanga City officials don’t go along, warns a leader of the Moro Islamic Liberation Front, “there will be consequences.” Gee, what kind?

“Philippines Muslims celebrate peace agreement,” by Hader Glang for the Anadolu Agency, March 27 (thanks to Twostellas):

Nearly a hundred people from pro-Bangsamoro groups ignored pleas from Zamboanga City officials Thursday and publically showed their support for the signing of the Comprehensive Agreement on the Bangsamoro (CAB).

The groups, composed of Royal Heritage Women West Coast Cooperative, the Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF) Political Committee, and Bangsamoro Leadership and Management Institute, were supposed to hold a rally in the dockside Recodo area but moved to an area near a mosque when permission was denied.

The majority Christian city’s political leaders have repeatedly vowed to oppose any attempt to include the city in the Bangsamoro entity — an autonomous Muslim region in a large part of the southern Mindanao region — that will be formed as part of the peace agreement between the government and the MILF.

Mayor Salazar reiterated earlier Thursday that the city, or any of its nearby waters, should be excluded from the Bangsamoro. She, however, stressed that the city supports the initiatives of President Benigno Aquino III to end the decade-long hostilities in Mindanao.

The groups celebrating Thursday, however, were undeterred. Many of them wore green T-shirts emblazoned with such markings as “I am for Bangsamoro,” and “We are proud to be Bangsamoro,” and waved green flags and streamers.

Danny Daranda, one of the organizers of the gathering, said that they did not deliberately go out to defy the no permit rule.

“This is our right. Freedom of (assembly) and speech is embodied in the Constitution,” he said.

Harim Abdullah, waving a green flag, said: “First of all we thank the Almighty God, and to President Benigno Aquino III for the signing of Comprehensive Agreement on the Bangsamoro.”

She added that she hoped it would be “the solution to the conflict for lasting peace here in Mindanao.”

Danny Daranda, 55 — who claimed to be a MILF information director — said that Zamboanga City will become part of the Bangsamoro territory.

“They can’t do anything because it will pass through the process because it is stipulated in the agreement between the government and the MILF,” he said.

“They’re just local government officials… They have the right to say they don’t want to be part of the Bangsamoro entity but it is already in the agreement they can’t do anything but to follow.”

He warned that if they didn’t accept the agreement “there will be consequences.”

Just last September — while the deal was being drawn up — Muslim rebels opposed to the process held several residents of the coastal village hostage during a six-day standoff.

The incident sparked fierce clashes that saw 56 people killed and more than 60,000 displaced, many of whom still live in camps in the city today.

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  1. ibn Muslim says

    Mar 28, 2014 at 6:49 am

    Who can deny that Islam means peace? MILF, however, has another meaning…

    • twostellas says

      Mar 28, 2014 at 8:07 am

      Yes, peace as in no more Jihad on your community, just Sharia. Such peace. Watch out for the blasphemy laws, though. And step aside for Muslims, for whatever they want; your land, your business, your daughter, your dignity. Or else. No thanks to that “peace”, I’ll choose freedom, peace or not.

      • umbra says

        Mar 28, 2014 at 10:19 am

        Ah! Yes! Southern Mindanao, another hole on Earth. What would those “rebels” do with all the spare time they have now?

    • RodSerling says

      Mar 28, 2014 at 3:14 pm

      “Who can deny that Islam means peace?”

      1. Translators of the Qur’an. Translators, when not simply transliterating “al-Islam,” call it the Submission or the Surrender.

      2. The Qur’an.

      2:216 “Warfare is ordained for you, though it is hateful unto you; but it may happen that ye hate a thing which is good for you, and it may happen that ye love a thing which is bad for you. Allah knoweth, ye know not.”

      47:35 “So do not falter and cry out for peace when ye (will be) the uppermost, and Allah is with you, and He will not grudge (the reward of) your actions.”

      33:26-27 “And He brought those of the People of the Scripture who supported them down from their strongholds, and cast panic into their hearts. Some ye slew, and ye made captive some. And He caused you to inherit their land and their houses and their wealth, and land ye have not trodden. Allah is ever Able to do all things.”

      59:2 “He it is Who hath caused those of the People of the Scripture who disbelieved to go forth from their homes unto the first exile. Ye deemed not that they would go forth, while they deemed that their strongholds would protect them from Allah. But Allah reached them from a place whereof they recked not, and cast terror in their hearts so that they ruined their houses with their own hands and the hands of the believers. So learn a lesson, O ye who have eyes!”

      4:76 “Those who believe do battle for the cause of Allah; and those who disbelieve do battle for the cause of idols. So fight the minions of the devil. Lo! the devil’s strategy is ever weak.”

      9:14 “Fight them! Allah will chastise them at your hands, and He will lay them low and give you victory over them, and He will heal the breasts of folk who are believers.”

      43:89: “Then bear with them (O Muhammad) and say: Peace. But they will come to know.”

      Tafsirs of 43:89
      Al-Jalalayn: “God, exalted be He, says: Then disregard them, leave [them] be, and say, ‘Peace!’, [I will stay away] from you – this was [revealed] before he was commanded to fight them. For they will [soon] come to know (ya’lamūna, may also be read as [second person plural] ta’lamūna, ‘you will [come to] know’), [meant] to threaten them.”
      Ibn Abbas: “(Then bear with them (O Muhammad)) it was said to him: turn away from them (and say: Peace) words of truth. (But) this is a threat (they will come to know) what will be done with them on the Day of Badr, Uhud, the Troops. Then, after this, he was commanded to fight them; it is also said that this means: but they will come to know the hunger and smoke that will befall them.’”
      Ibn Kathir. “…Say Salam (peace!) means, ‘do not respond to them in the the same evil manner in which they address you; but try to soften their hearts and forgive them in word and deed.’…(But they will come to know.) This is a warning from Allah for them. His punishment, which cannot be warded off, struck them, and His religion and His word was supreme. Subsequently Jihad and striving were prescribed until people entered the religion of Allah in crowds, and Islam spread throughout the east and the west.”

      3. The Hadith:

      “It is reported on the authority of Abu Huraira that the Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people so long as they do not declare that there is no god but Allah, and he who professed it was guaranteed the protection of his property and life on my behalf except for the right affairs rest with Allah. (Sahih Muslim, Book #001, Hadith #0030)

      Sahih Bukhari Volume 1, Book 3, Number 125:
      Narrated Abu Musa: A man came to the Prophet and asked, “O Allah’s Apostle! What kind of fighting is in Allah’s cause? (I ask this), for some of us fight because of being enraged and angry and some for the sake of his pride and haughtiness.” The Prophet raised his head (as the questioner was standing) and said, “He who fights so that Allah’s Word (Islam) should be superior, then he fights in Allah’s cause.” (also see Sahih Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 53, Number 355; and Sahih Muslim, Book 20, Number 4684 (also 4685, 4686, 4687).

      Sahih Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 53, Number 386:
      Narrated Jubair bin Haiya: Umar sent the Muslims to the great countries to fight the pagans. When Al-Hurmuzan embraced Islam, ‘Umar said to him. “I would like to consult you regarding these countries which I intend to invade.” […] Our Prophet, the Messenger of our Lord, has ordered us to fight you till you worship Allah Alone or give Jizya (i.e. tribute); and our Prophet has informed us that our Lord says:– “Whoever amongst us is killed (i.e. martyred), shall go to Paradise to lead such a luxurious life as he has never seen, and whoever amongst us remain alive, shall become your master.” […]

      Sahih Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 53, Number 388:
      Narrated Juwairiya bin Qudama At-Tamimi: We said to ‘Umar bin Al-Khattab, Jo Chief of the believers! Advise us.” He said, “I advise you to fulfill Allah’s Convention (made with the Dhimmis) as it is the convention of your Prophet and the source of the livelihood of your dependents (i.e. the taxes from the Dhimmis.) ” (parentheses in M. Muhsin Khan’s translation).

      http://bewley.virtualave.net/bukhari23.html#jihad
      LXXXVII: What is said about spears
      “It is mentioned from Ibn ‘Umar from the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, “My provision has been placed under the shadow of my spear, and abasement and humility have been placed on the one who disobeys my command.””

      Sahih Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 52, Number 44:
      Narrated Abu Huraira: A man came to Allah’s Apostle and said, “Instruct me as to such a deed as equals Jihad (in reward).” He replied, “I do not find such a deed.” Then he added, “Can you, while the Muslim fighter is in the battle-field, enter your mosque to perform prayers without cease and fast and never break your fast?” The man said, “But who can do that?” Abu- Huraira added, “The Mujahid (i.e. Muslim fighter) is rewarded even for the footsteps of his horse while it wanders bout (for grazing) tied in a long rope.”

      Sahih Bukhari, Volume 3, Book 46, Number 717:
      Narrated Ibn Aun: I wrote a letter to Nafi and Nafi wrote in reply to my letter that the Prophet had suddenly attacked Bani Mustaliq without warning while they were heedless and their cattle were being watered at the places of water. Their fighting men were killed and their women and children were taken as captives; the Prophet got Juwairiya on that day. Nafi said that Ibn ‘Umar had told him the above narration and that Ibn ‘Umar was in that army.

      Sahih Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 58, Number 160:
      Narrated Jarir bin ‘Abdullah:
      Allah’s Apostle has never refused to admit me since I embraced Islam, and whenever he saw me, he would smile. (In another narration) Jarir bin ‘Abdullah narrated: There was a house called Dhul-Khalasa in the Pre-lslamic Period and it was also called Al-Ka’ba Al-Yamaniya or Al-Ka’ba Ash-Shamiya. Allah’s Apostle said to me, “Will you relieve me from Dhul-Khalasa?” So I left for it with 150 cavalrymen from the tribe of Ahmas and then we destroyed it and killed whoever we found there. Then we came to the Prophet and informed him about it. He invoked good upon us and upon the tribe of Ahmas.

      Sahih Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 52, Number 177.
      Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah’s Apostle said, “The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. “O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him.”

      4. The Sira:

      Ishaq, pp. 470-471.
      “Many a woman will ask of our fight.
      Had she been there she would have seen that we were steadfast.
      We were steadfast trusting in Him;
      We saw nothing equal to God in the hour of our danger.
      We have a prophet, a true helper,
      By whom we will conquer all men.”

      Ishaq, p. 204-205.
      “ ‘O men of Khazraj, do you realize to what you are committing yourselves in pledging your support to this man? It is a war against all and sundry. If you think that if you lose your property and your nobles are killed you will give him up, then do so now, for it would bring you shame in this world and the next (if you did so later); but if you think that you will be loyal in your undertaking if you lose your property and your nobles are killed, then take him, for by God it will profit you in this world and the next.’ They said that they would accept the apostle on these conditions. But they asked what they would get in return for their loyalty, and the apostle promised them paradise. They said, ‘Stretch forth your hand,’ and when he did so they pledged their word.”

      Ishaq, p. 208. “ When God gave permission to his apostle to fight, the second ‘Aqaba contained conditions involving war which were not in the first act of fealty. Now they bound themselves to war against all and sundry, while he promised them for faithful service thus the reward of paradise.

      Ishaq, p. 531.
      “Get out of his way, you unbelievers, make way.
      Every good thing goes with His apostle.
      O Lord I believe in his word,
      I know God’s truth in accepting it.
      We will fight you about its interpretation
      As we have fought you about its revelation
      With strokes that will remove heads from shoulders

      And make friend unmindful of friend.”

      Ishaq, pp. 489-490.
      “Do the bastards think that we
      Are not their equals in horsemanship?
      We are men who think killing no shame,
      We turn not from the piercing lances.
      We feed the guest with choicest camels’ meat
      And smite the heads of the haughty.
      We turn back the conspicuous warriors in their pride
      With blows that quash the zeal of the unyielding.
      With heroes who protect their standard,
      Noble, generous, fierce as jungle wolves.
      They preserve their honour and their goods
      With swords that smash the heads beneath the helms.
      Ask the Banu Badr if you meet them
      What the brethren did on the day of battle.
      Tell the truth to those you meet whenever you come out.
      Conceal not the news in assemblies.
      Say, We slipped away from the claws of the angry lion
      With rage in his heart which he could not work off.”

      Ishaq, p. 511. (Raid on Khaybar)
      “When the apostle raided a people he waited until the morning. If he heard a call to prayer he held back; if he did not hear it he attacked. We came to Khaybar by night, and the apostle passed the night there; and when morning came he did not hear the call to prayer, so he rode and we rode with him….We met the workers of Khaybar coming out in the morning with their spades and baskets. When they saw the apostle and the army they cried, ‘Muhammad with his force,’ and turned tail and fled. The apostle said, ‘Allah akbar! Khaybar is destroyed. When we arrive in a people’s square it is a bad morning for those who have been warned.’”
       
      Ishaq, p. 511. (Raid on Khaybar)
      “The apostle seized the property piece by piece and conquered the forts one by one as he came to them. …The apostle took captives from them among whom Safiya d. Huyayy b. Akhtab who had been the wife of  Kinana b. al-Rabi‘ b. Abu’l-Huqayq, and two cousins of hers. The apostle chose Safiya for himself. …The women of Khaybar were distributed among the Muslims.”

      Ishaq, pp. 326-327.
      “God said, ‘It is not for any prophet,’ i.e., before thee, ‘to take prisoners’ from his enemies ‘until he has made slaughter in the earth,’ i.e., slaughtered his enemies until he drives them from the land. ‘You desire the lure of this world,’ i.e., its goods, the ransoms, the captives. ‘But God desires the next world,’ i.e., their killing them to manifest the religion which He wishes to manifest and by which the next world may be attained.”

      5. Islamic law:
      Hanafi school on the subject of Jihad, as given in the Hidayah, vol. Ii. P. 140:

      “…The sacred injunction concerning war is sufficiently observed when it is carried on by any one party or tribe of Muslims, and it is then no longer of any force with respect to the rest. It is established as a divine ordinance, by the word of God, who said in the Qur’an, ‘Slay the infidels,’ and also by a saying of the Prophet, ‘War is permanently established until the Day of Judgment’ (meaning the ordinance respecting war). The observance, however, in the degree above mentioned, suffices, because war is not a positive injunction, as it is in its nature murderous and destructive, and is enjoined only for the purpose of advancing the true faith or repelling evil from the servants of God…”

      “…If the infidels, upon receiving the call [to embrace Islam], neither consent to it nor agree to pay capitation tax, it is then incumbent on the Muslims to call upon God for assistance, and to make war upon them, because God is the assistant of those who serve Him, and the destroyer of His enemies, the infidels, and it is necessary to implore His aid upon every occasion; the Prophet, moreover, commands us so to do. And having so done, the Muslims must then with God’s assistance attack the infidels with all manner of warlike engines (as the Prophet did by the people of Ta’if), and must also set fire to their habitations (in the same manner as the Prophet fired Baweera), and must inundate them with water and tear up their plantations and tread down their grain because by these means they will become weakened, and their resolution will fail and their force be broken; these means are, therefore, all sanctified by the law…”

      6. Anyone who’s ever been on the receiving end of Islamically-approved, Islamically-commanded violence.

    • gravenimage says

      Mar 31, 2014 at 3:13 pm

      ibn Muslim wrote:

      Who can deny that Islam means peace? MILF, however, has another meaning…
      ……………………….

      As ibn Muslim well knows, Islam *does not* mean peace. It means *submission*.

      And note he will not tell us how, exactly, MILF differs from every other Jihad gang, either in their methods or their aims.

      And how could he? MILF is a perfectly mainstream Jihad gang, and now they have been foolishly allowed to gain a foothold of power in the Philippines by the foolish, violence-weary Infidels there. This will not go well for the Kuffar, as the poor Christians in the story above realize all too well.

  2. mortimer says

    Mar 28, 2014 at 8:12 am

    ETHNIC CLEANSING and GENOCIDE commanded by Mohammed, normative Islam:

    “”Truly, if the Hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and those who stir up sedition in the City, desist not, We shall certainly stir thee up against them: Then will they not be able to stay in it as thy neighbors for any length of time.” (K. 33:60)

  3. Mazo says

    Mar 28, 2014 at 10:55 am

    I like how everyone conveniently forgets that the Filipinos Catholics in Mindanao are descendants of colonists from Luzon and the Visayas brought over by Spanish and American colonialists, the big flood of millions of Filipinos to Mindanao came after America violated the Bates Treaty with the Moros and conuqered the Moro Sultanates, opening their land to Filipino colonization.

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/02/philippines-frees-jihad-leader-to-make-peace-with-milf

    Oh yeah I remember why everyone forgot, since America, Canada, and Australia are the result of millions of European white colonists conquering the natives, violating treaties with them, and then flooding their land with colonists and destroying their culture and language, that it might just by hypocritical to bring that topic up.

    • RodSerling says

      Mar 28, 2014 at 2:19 pm

      Mazo,

      You are pretending to care about racism, colonialism, etc., meanwhile you support the biggest and longest-running racist colonialist project ever invented: Islam. And the racism and colonialism of Islam are not even its worst aspects. It is also a program of murder, rape, slavery, torture, subjugation, extortion, violent misogyny, and treacherous deception, with world conquest as its explicit goal.

      This is Jihadwatch. We are concerned about jihad and Islamic supremacism that threatens non-Muslims right now, today.

      • Mazo says

        Mar 28, 2014 at 4:49 pm

        I’ve talked about this crap before, Indonesia and the Philippines were both backed by colonialist western countries against the Muslim Moros, Muslim Achenese, Animist and Christian East Timorese, Moluccans, and West Papuans, and these people all banded together with Gaddafi’s support to fight against Philippines and Indonesia.

        http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/02/indonesia-armed-muslim-mob-blocks-construction-of-church

        http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/02/philippines-frees-jihad-leader-to-make-peace-with-milf

        • Simon says

          Mar 29, 2014 at 6:09 am

          To Mazo. Gaddafi supported the West Papuans (Animists, Christians) against Indonesia (overwhelmingly Muslim)?? You are way off mark. No doubt Indonesia has used Western aid equipment to help them persecute Timorese and Papuans – unintended consequences.

        • Mazo says

          Mar 29, 2014 at 11:12 am

          Again, you express suprise that your western governments support dictatorial regimes like Suharto? America approved of Indonesia’s invasion of East Timor and annexation of Papua because Indonesia was strongly anti-communist during the Cold War.

          Gaddafi set up the World Mathaba Organization to coordinate weapons supplies to the Free Aceh Movement, East Timor FRETILIN, Free Papua Movement, and South Moluccan seperatists.

          The Secretary General of East Timor FRETILIN was an Arab Muslim, Mari Alkatiri, While the Indonesian General Leonardus Benjamin Moerdani, who invaded East Timor, was a Roman Catholic.

          Gaddafi appointed Hassan di Tiro, leader of the Muslim Free Aceh Movement, as head of Al-Mathaba. He coordinated weapons supplies to the Animists and Christians in Papua and Timor and rallied against what he called “Javanese colonialism”.

          Indonesia is dominated by the Javanese ethnic group. The Javanese settled their own people in Aceh, Papua, and Timor as part of the Transmigration program. The Javanese also allowed closely related peoples like the Balinese Hindus to benefit from the program, settling several thousand Balinese Hindus in East Timorese land.

          The Muslim Acehnese said they wouldn’t take any crap from the Javanese just because they were both Muslim, and Hassan di Tiro made it clear that it was not a religious, but a racial conflict with Javanese colonialists oppresing Acehnese Muslims, and East Timorese and West Papuan Christians and animists.

          In the transmigration program, Muslim Madurese were also settled in other parts of Indonesia like Borneo. This angered both Muslims Malays and Animist Dayaks in Borneo, so that in 1999, the Muslim Malays and Animist Dayaks joined together to massacre several thousand Muslim Madurese.

          Indonesian conflicts are overwhelmingly racial and not religious.

        • gravenimage says

          Mar 31, 2014 at 3:17 pm

          Reams more obfuscation and apologia from Mazo. But then, we’ve come to expect nothing ‘less’ from him…

        • Mazo says

          Apr 2, 2014 at 9:48 am

          Gravenimage, your gang has told blatant lies to our faces.

          http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/02/thailand-muslims-murder-three-soldiers-and-election-official-in-jihad-bomb-attack

          The last paragraph of this story manifests the typical mainstream media slant. Reuters does not mention that the Malay Muslim sultanate was making war against the Siamese during the war between Siam and Burma, and that Thailand conquered it in that context

          Pray tell, how could Burma, which was a colony of Britian in 1909 when Thailand annexed Pattani, have been waging a war against Thailand?

          I explained Thailand over here.

          http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/03/western-media-condemns-terrorist-attacks-that-happen-at-their-door-but-show-sympathy-to-terrorists-killing-people-brutally-in-china/comment-page-1#comment-1016978

          I caught another couple of blatant lies here where JWatch falsely attributed actions done by the MNLF and BIFF to the MILF.

          http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/03/robert-spencer-in-frontpage-mag-leland-yee-an-anti-gun-democrat-jihadists-can-love/comment-page-1#comment-1029178

          What parallel universe do you live in?

        • Angemon says

          Apr 2, 2014 at 10:14 am

          Mazo needs to pick a story and stick with it. First the invasion of East-Timor and the genocide of its inhabitants was the work of a single christian general, then the US were behind it. There’s a common element on his fantasy stories: the islamic government of Indonesia had no responsibility whatsoever in the invasion of East-Timor and the genocide of its native people, according to him.

        • Mazo says

          Apr 2, 2014 at 3:04 pm

          And here comes angemon, deliberately ignoring the fact that Indonesia is a Javanese dominated country, not an Islamic state.

          Acehnese MUSLIMS fought alongside East Timorese and Papuans against Javanese Indonesian colonists. The Moro Muslims were also allied to them through Gaddafi’s Mathaba.

          The Javanese used the transmigration program to benefit themselves and closely culturally and ethnically related peoples to Javanese like Balinese Hindus. They discrimnated against ALL non-Javanese, whether Muslim or not.

          America backed Suharto’s dictatorship in Indonesia and allowed the Indonesians to take East Timor and West Papua because of their anti-communism, while it was Gaddafi, Islamist Acehnese, and Communist insurgents from the Phiippines who supported East Timorese and West Papaun rebels.

        • Champ ✿ says

          Apr 2, 2014 at 3:19 pm

          Angemon is a formidable and very intelligent poster who has a solid grasp of reality and the threat of islamic jihad …unlike mazo-ball-for-brains who doesn’t, and whose *contributions* we can live without. Get lost, you evil perp!

  4. Dave says

    Mar 28, 2014 at 12:52 pm

    And with this historic signing…..
    Will the Phillippines see peace ?
    Or will they see an automous region soon become a terrorist base for further attacks against infidels and kaffir ?

  5. dumbledoresarmy says

    Mar 30, 2014 at 6:34 pm

    To remind ourselves of the Big Picture (despite the frantic efforts constantly made by ‘mazo’ to obscure it), and why it is that I do not think for one minute that this ‘peace’ in the southern Philippines is going to last.

    Four “takes” on the victim-card-playing that is perpetually indulged in by the Ummah.

    http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2011/11/dangers-of-legitimizing-islamic.html
    Sunday, November 13, 2011
    The Dangers of Legitimizing Muslim Grievances

    Hitchens, writing the day after the jihad bombings in London, July 2005.

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2005/07/08/we-cannot-surrender-115875-15713152/

    WE CANNOT SURRENDER

    “…We know very well what the “grievances” of the jihadists are.
    The grievance of seeing unveiled women. The grievance of the existence, not of the State of Israel, but of the Jewish people. The grievance of the heresy of democracy, which impedes the imposition of sharia law. The grievance of a work of fiction written by an Indian living in London. The grievance of the existence of black African Muslim farmers, who won’t abandon lands in Darfur. The grievance of the existence of homosexuals. The grievance of music, and of most representational art. The grievance of the existence of Hinduism. The grievance of East Timor’s liberation from Indonesian rule. All of these have been proclaimed as a licence to kill infidels or apostates, or anyone who just gets in the way…”.

    A list of all the things that “fuel Muslim extremism”:

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2006/10/fitzgerald-95-things-that-fuel-muslim-extremism.html

    “…86. The continued existence of Jews.

    87. The continued existence of Christians.

    88. The continued existence of Hindus.

    89. The continued existence of Sikhs.

    90. The continued existence of Buddhists.

    91. The continued existence of followers of Confucius

    92. The continued existence of agnostics.

    93. The continued existence of atheists.

    94. Everything.

    95. Nothing…”.

    And a Bengali ex-Muslim, explaining what Muslims really mean when they claim that Islam, or the Ummah, is “oppressed”.

    http://www.islam-watch.org/AbulKasem/IslamOppressed.htm

    • Semeru says

      Apr 1, 2014 at 12:05 am

      To remind ourselves of the Big Picture (despite the frantic efforts constantly made by ‘mazo’ to obscure it),

      DDA cannot refute what Mazo has to say, so she links to four articles that have nothing to do with Philippines or SE Asia

      DDA like many others here write so much shit about islam here in SE Asia

      Lets see if DDA can refute the below, it is off topic but still has a lot to do with SE Asia

      Fact #1 The actual architect of the 1975 invasion was a stern army general known as Benny Moerdani. The most powerful of commanders to serve under Suharto, Moerdani was a conservative Javanese Catholic, not only that, it was Moerdani who broke a cease-fire

      Fact #2 Benny Moerdani was not the only high ranking christian army officer involved with East Timor.

      Here are just a few more

      Major General Theo Syafei, a Buginese Christian

      LtGen Johny Josephus Lumintang a Protestant born in Menado, northern Sulawesi

      MajGen (ret) Sintong Panjaitan

      LtGen Tyasno Sudarto a Central Javanese Christian born in 1948

      Fact #3 Many of the militia members targeting church institutions in East Timor were themselves primarily recruited from Catholic families.

      Fact #4 Eurico Barros Gomes Guterres is a pro-Indonesian or anti-independence militia. He was involved in several massacres in East Timor, such as the Liquiçá Church Massacre, and the Suai Church Massacre, as well as Catholic nuns that were killed in Lospalos he was a chief militia leader during the post-independence massacre and destruction of the capital Dili.

      Eurico Guterres, the commander of the Aitarak, held absolute control over not only the Aitarak, but also the Besi Merah Putih, and other militias throughout East Timor.

      Due to the ruthless manner in which the Aitarak killed and raped, they became infamous. They acted in a manner that indicated they had no fear of the press, or international reaction or consequences.

      But of course, R Spencer and jihad watchers wish to ignore these facts

      As Jose Ramos-Horta said in his speech ‘East Timor and the Region: The Opportunities and Perils Ahead’ (Scientia, University of New South Wales, Sydney, 30 May 2001)

      the violence in East Timor was fundamentally unrelated to religious differences.

      Although sporadic persecution of Roman Catholics did occur,129 Catholic priests and nuns were not targeted for their religious beliefs so much as for their political objections to the Indonesian occupation. Thus they were not targeted as a religious group ‘as such’, but rather as political opponents who happened to be Catholic. This distinction may seem artificial in the sense that the principles of Catholicism require its followers to object to inhumane actions which violate their religious principles. That is, Catholic objections to the brutality of the Indonesian occupation were an expression of Catholic religious beliefs as opposed to an expression of political opposition. Yet this view is an inadequate explanation of Indonesia’s violence in East Timor, since Indonesia targeted all political opposition in East Timor, regardless of whether their opponents were Roman Catholic, animist, or Muslim.

      Fact #5 The characterisation of the East Timorese as a racial or ethnical group targeted for genocide is equally problematic. Although Indonesia was primarily responsible for the post-ballot violence and pre-ballot intimidation, most acts of violence against pro-independence East Timorese were physically carried out by militia members of most of whom were East Timorese. The issue is whether members of a group targeted for genocide can carry out genocide against other members of their own group.

    • Mazo says

      Apr 2, 2014 at 4:19 am

      Massive liar DDA ignores the fact that Muslim Acehnese and Muslim Arab Libyans supported East Timor against Indonesia, and the Muslim Moros in the MNLF were also allied to the Acehnese and Timorese in Gaddafi’s Al-Mathaba organization.

      In fact the Muslim Moro mnlf website, displays a book by Noam Chomsky on Indonesian atrocities against East Timroese which the west was ignoring since Indonesia was their ally, in their list of recommended reading books.

      Also DDA ignores the fact that Muslim Arab East Timorese leader Mari Alkatiri objected to Australia’s theft of their natural gas, and oriented East Timor towards China (another people you hate besides Muslims).

      And the Javanese ruling class of Indonesia settled Hindu Balinese and Catholic Javanese on East Timorese land, in addition to settling Muslim Javanese on Muslim Acehnese land and Muslim Madurese on Muslim Malay land, causing both the Acehnese and Malays to lash out in anger at the settlers.

      Many Muslims in China have also been followers of Confucius to this day.

      I challenge you to drop all of the religious BS just for one second, and look at these conflicts drom a neutral perspective.

      You might just realize that you held the wrong opinions for decades but it would be worth coming to terms with the truth.

      I already debunked your blatant lies about Thailand annexing Pattani during a war with Burma, Burma was under British rule in 1909 when Thailand annexed Pattani

      http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/02/indonesia-armed-muslim-mob-blocks-construction-of-church/comment-page-1#comment-1013083

      Although from what I see here, some of you are in such self denial that you will continue to repeat such lies after they get debunked right in your face.

  6. gravenimage says

    Mar 31, 2014 at 3:06 pm

    Philippines: Muslims celebrate MILF’s peace with government; Christians at site of jihad massacre less excited
    ……………………….

    Ah, yes. In fact, it has come to light that MILF was just involved with an arms smuggling deal with corrupt California State Senator Leland Yee.

    One might assume this rather casts doubt on their commitment to peace…

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