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Police investigating Uighur Muslim with flight training who was on board missing Malaysian airliner

Mar 13, 2014 3:36 pm By Robert Spencer

VietnameseofficialMalaysianplaneWas this a jihad attack? There is no way to tell as yet, but Malaysian police and Interpol are “taking a close look at a 35-year-old passenger of Uighur descent” — that is, a member of the Muslim group in western China that has been waging jihad with increasing ferocity against the Chinese recently — who “undertook flight simulation training.”

“Missing Malaysia Airlines jet: Investigation paying ‘special attention’ to Chinese Uighur passenger,” by Lindsay Murdoch for the Sydney Morning Herald, March 13 (thanks to Doc):

Police investigating the backgrounds of all 239 people aboard the missing Malaysia Airlines flight are paying “special attention” to a 35 year-old Chinese Uighur man who undertook flight simulation training, according to a report in a leading Malay language newspaper in Kuala Lumpur.

The Uighurs Muslim ethnic minority group from the north-western Chinese province of Xinjiang have been battling for independence since they were brought under Chinese control in 1949, claiming they are oppressed by China’s authoritarian government and face religious restrictions and widespread discrimination.

Earlier this month the Uighurs, who make up 45 percent of the population of Xinjiang, were blamed for a violent attack at a Chinese train station.

At least 100 people have been killed in the past year in violent clashes between Uighurs and Chinese security forces.

The Harian Metro newspaper quoted an unnamed source as saying the man is not a suspect over the plane’s disappearance but that investigators were delving into his background.

According to the source the man has a PHD from a university in Britain was recently worked as a lecturer at a university in Turkey.

The source said he undertook flight simulation training in Sweden in around 2006….

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  1. veggiedog says

    Mar 13, 2014 at 3:41 pm

    Could Musims ultimately unite China, Russia and thr US?

    • Stephen Poole says

      Mar 13, 2014 at 4:25 pm

      … That would be a lot of dead people, VD … Just sayin’ … SP OX …

    • sud says

      Mar 13, 2014 at 5:10 pm

      I strongly believe china,russia and the USA would definitely unite one day and that day ain’t far away. Third world war is definitely goanna be a deadly holy war.

      • Stephen Poole says

        Mar 13, 2014 at 5:23 pm

        … Read your Bible, SUD … The next/last World War will be Jesus Christ for/against all of “us” … Just sayin’ … SP OX …

        • Cathy C. says

          Mar 14, 2014 at 3:28 pm

          Ezekial 38

  2. mariam rove says

    Mar 13, 2014 at 4:18 pm

    here we go…m

  3. voegelinian says

    Mar 13, 2014 at 4:24 pm

    But, according to “Edward Monette” who wrote a cantankerous comment on an older thread about a Muslim cleric who preached violent jihad for the Uighurs:

    “As much as I hate jihadists and muslim terrorists I hate opportunist to frame some vulnerable communities, Uighurs are originally believers of Tengrism and Buddhism, 12th century onwards significant number of Uighurs adopted christianity. However during the illegal occupation of their lands, Han Chinese Muslim warlords forced them to convert to islam. Uighur christians, shamans and buddhists have been slaughtered ruthlessly.”

    A number of speciously fallacious nuances riddle this tissue: One, he implies the old saw that because one Muslim group is being persecuted by another Muslim group, the ones being persecuted are automatically peaceful and our friends. Secondly, he marbles into the equation irrelevant details about Uighur non-Muslims. Thirdly, I’m beginning to notice a trend with these suspicious critics who’ve been coming into Jihad Watch comments more and more it seems: they tend to preface their sabotage with protestations of being one of us: “As much as I hate jihadists and muslim terrorists…” One smells a big But bigger than Jennah’s mile-wide butts a mile away.

    Then “Edward Monette” goes on to amplify his specious implication broad claims he leaves utterly unsubstantiated:

    Uighurs are much hated by muslim world due to their refusal to adopt islamic law. They are being called kaffirs (infidels) by muslims countries. genocide against uighurs very much supported by Saudi arabia and pakistan.

    That’s two claims he needs to substantiate. Aside from that problem, neither one of those, even if demonstrated to be facts, make it ipso facto impossible for Uighur Muslims to be waging violent jihad against China. Muslims have been involved in internecine violence for centuries, throughout the Muslim world.

    “China is today’s number one suppoter of jihadists, islamist and maoist terrorist organizations.”

    Another sweeping claim, unsubstantiated; and also even if fact, is irrelevant to whether Uighur Muslims are waging a violent jihad against China.

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/03/muslim-cleric-in-china-killing-youslaughtering-youand-cutting-off-your-heads-is-all-good#comments

    • Inchoate says

      Mar 14, 2014 at 8:12 am

      Lots of armchair experts available, we need a name-index here and buttons to click for the opinions of our choice. I’d be filed under, “generally anti muslim, anti-C.A.I.R.”

      Candidly, why should we Americans worry if these various muslim sects want to slit each others’ throats? That’s a problem for the Chinese, or the Afghanis, or the Iraqis, or the Syrians, or the Saudi’s to settle among themselves. They’re perfectly capable of sharpening and applying their own knives without us trying to choose a side, when each and all of these muslim factions want to slit our American throats?

      We Americans simply are not equipped to deal with the subtleties of muslim-against-musim historical animosities. That’s a compliment.

      We have our own muslim problems over here, but when they slit each others’ throats and leave the rest of us alone, why is that problem?

      To those who say that it’s against the American law to slit someone’s throat in America, I’d say that that applies only to us Americans, not to those muslim residents over here who automatically reject all things American except….except….when it’s suddenly in their perceived interests to take a court-suit to cry out instantly, “prejudice!”, “racism!”, “discrimination!”

      We mere “Ameddicans” [sic] can’t be expected to jump in as arbiters. Muslims in America and elsewhere need to be isolated and contained – or deported – unless they want to assimilate. That, “assimilation thing”, of course, is decidedly un-muslim.

      • veggiedog says

        Mar 14, 2014 at 9:20 am

        We are a bi-lingual country because we could not get the Latinos from Puerto Rico to assimilate. Do you think the liberal left will ever help with the problems incoming Muslims bring? Once it truly hits them it will be too late. This is up to those of us who understand and know what is coming. Me, i am getting old, it is the children i worry about. If i were younger and knew what i know today i would move to Israel and defend it with all of my heart.

        • Inchoate says

          Mar 14, 2014 at 10:17 am

          Well said.

        • veggiedog says

          Mar 14, 2014 at 11:12 am

          Thank you…

        • Mo says

          Mar 14, 2014 at 12:46 pm

          “We are a bi-lingual country because we could not get the Latinos from Puerto Rico to assimilate. ”

          I have no idea what you mean by that. It’s not the Puerto Ricans who demand everything in this country be written in Spanish. Nor it is Puerto Ricans demonstrating with their flag over the US flag.

          Most PRs I know speak English and are perfectly assimilated in this country.

          That would include my parents, who have been here more than 50 years.

        • cranky.white.woman says

          Mar 14, 2014 at 1:34 pm

          You and I, both.

        • veggiedog says

          Mar 14, 2014 at 7:37 pm

          @Mo&crsnky.whitewomen

          I was not dissing people from PR, i was pointing out the failure in assimilation in many areas, specifically NY. Yiddish, Italian, Greek and many other languages are spoken here but only Spanish is a prompt on a phone-line. Will Arabic be following? I just think we have to be careful of not losing why we are a “melting pot”.

        • Inchoate says

          Mar 14, 2014 at 4:14 pm

          Re Mo’s defense of Puerto Ricans speaking English….Perhaps it can be added that Puerto Rican nationalism and immigration into the US Mainland started in the 1940’s [roughly] along with that Spanish language tension, as a precursor to the Mexicans of these later years.
          Moreover, this is a long history…..Re: “It’s not the Puerto Ricans who demand everything in this country be written in Spanish. Nor it is Puerto Ricans demonstrating with their flag over the US flag.”…….
          When I was a teenager living in the District the following was dominating the headlines:
          “Puerto Rican Nationalists Attempt to Assassinate Truman; Gun …
          ghostsofdc.org/…/truman-assassination-attempt-puerto-rican-nationalists/‎
          May 2, 2012 – You may not know this, but there was a very public assassination attempt on a President very near the White House and it wasn’t that long ago.”…end paste.
          It was a sensational event, a shootout right there at the foot of the steps to Blair House, right across the street from the White House where Truman was living which the White House was being rebuilt.
          Google for the rest of the details.
          The point here, I think, is that our current English/Spanish telephone instructions are a precedent for the creep of Muslim associated tensions of a similar nature with the spread particularly in Northern Virginia of an increasing Muslim population which simply will not assimilate and which wants to become solidly entrenched as Spanish Harlem was in the 1950’s.

      • voegelinian says

        Mar 14, 2014 at 3:43 pm

        “but when they slit each others’ throats and leave the rest of us alone, why is that problem? ”

        That particular Islamic fact (amongst a whole multifarious grotesquerie of other facts), of internecine violence in Islam, is important because it indicates the ghoulishly extreme fanaticism that is directly related to why they want to kill us.

        • voegelinian says

          Mar 14, 2014 at 3:45 pm

          That’s why it’s doubly perverse when a demurrer like “Edward Monette” (who, as usual, never reappears in comments after his drive-by) tries to use Islamic internecine violence as a way to diminish our concern about a particular Muslim group or region.

    • moray watson says

      Mar 15, 2014 at 7:51 pm

      There is no good brand of islamic totalitarian supremacism.

    • gravenimage says

      Mar 16, 2014 at 3:16 am

      I hadn’t caught that load of Taqiyya from “Edward Monette” at the tail end of that thread, Voegelinian.

      Leaving such “parting shots” to get in the last word after an article has fallen into the archives is a not uncommon tactic. Bleah.

  4. richard Sherman says

    Mar 13, 2014 at 4:24 pm

    What a coincidence? A MUSLIM with flight training on a flight that disappears…Hello Muhammad Atta!!!

    • veggiedog says

      Mar 14, 2014 at 9:22 am

      Not only that, the co-pilot was a muslim. This was quietly reported when they were telling about the praying at the Mosque where the co-pilot was a member. Interesting for sure.

      • Veil 416 says

        Mar 14, 2014 at 1:09 pm

        I don’t think the co-pilot being muslim is likely to be a factor in the plane’s disappearance if he was a Malay as all Malays under Malaysia’s constitution are automatically classified as Muslim.

        Malay’s in Malaysia don’t have a choice of being non-muslim. If they attempt to be reclassified as having a different belief system they have to apply through the religious courts (which apply Sharia law) and are refused. If they persist they can be sent to detention for re-education (frighteningly similar to the old Soviet style system for dissidents who were considered as psychologically defective for daring to question the communist regime). The rest of the world doesn’t appear interested in doing anything about the totalitarian religious apartheid being practiced in countries like Malaysia but that’s a separate issue to what happened with this plane.

        While this may yet turn out to have been an islamist attack I don’t think the flight crew or Malaysian nationals will have been responsible since it was a Malaysian airlines flight. Given the majority of passengers were Chinese, if it turns out to be an islamist attack it is much more likely to have been an attack by Uighurs.

        We are unlikely to know unless they either find the wreckage/black box which might provides more clues about what happened, or dig up some evidence in the background of someone aboard the flight.

        • Haller says

          Mar 14, 2014 at 1:55 pm

          The link to Islam is patently clear, at least in this respect. Malaysian Transport Authority and MAS are in the spotlight at the moment, embarrassingly so. Makes the fabulously “moderate” Islamic republic of Malaysia look as is it was caught screwing a donkey.
          , so to speak. Whatever the real story is Malaysia cannot be seen to lose face. That’s why they will probably increase the search area to a low space orbit, because after claiming that it was something to do with insurance fraud!? on Monday, the only other possibility they could come up with is abduction by aliens. Oh I forgot,. there is one other feeble excuse that goes along the line of, “The dog ate my homework” And we all know how much Muslims hate dogs. For my money Malaysia et al is hoping against hope that the black box stops pinging ASAP, that way they won’t have to pay out for culpability cos they didn’t upgrade in time,(Feb18) the latest RR Trent 800 software that may have stopped engine meltdown. Can you sue aliens?

        • fatimasadrcity says

          Mar 14, 2014 at 11:36 pm

          what about the 2 Iranians on board? any thoughts on that?

      • Mr. Squat says

        Mar 14, 2014 at 2:44 pm

        Not only that, the co-pilot was a muslim. This was quietly reported when they were telling about the praying at the Mosque where the co-pilot was a member. Interesting for sure.

        ======================

        What’s so interesting about that? Malaysia is a hard core Muslim country.
        And you can bet your left ball that the pilot was a muslim as well.

  5. voegelinian says

    Mar 13, 2014 at 4:26 pm

    An Uighur with flight training; obviously, he wanted to learn how to ride a flying yak.

    • Stephen Poole says

      Mar 13, 2014 at 4:34 pm

      … I believe that the proper expression VG is, “rug pilot” … Just sayin’ … SP OX …

      • Inchoate says

        Mar 14, 2014 at 8:28 am

        …..no, no,………isn’t it a carpet rather than a mere rug? Carpets are the thing to fly on, not rugs.

  6. voegelinian says

    Mar 13, 2014 at 4:27 pm

    By the way, it’s only a matter of time before some rapper rhymes “Uighur” with “wigger” 🙂

  7. Brian C. Hoff says

    Mar 13, 2014 at 5:24 pm

    Robert is getting worry that this have nothing to do with Islam or terrism at all. There is than picture I saw today of than muslim woman with tear in her eyes from worrying about someone she love. Law enforcement is gasping at straw as they know nothing of what happen.

    • eib says

      Mar 13, 2014 at 5:32 pm

      Muslims kill Muslim women all the time.
      Since when would it matter if a Muslim jihadist killed another Muslim?
      It wouldn’t matter at all.
      Not if it’s Jihad.

    • Stephen Poole says

      Mar 13, 2014 at 6:51 pm

      … That Malay plane is now somewhere on the ground … … Its metal is now being sold into scrap … Its passengers are now being sold into slavery … Just sayin’ … SP OX …

      • Brian C. Hoff says

        Mar 13, 2014 at 11:57 pm

        Where is your proof of this. Most likely the airliner landed on the ocean botton in one peice. Radio signal from the black box donot travel well thought lots of water.

      • citycat says

        Mar 14, 2014 at 12:55 am

        ….and some will be selected for spare body parts

      • fatimasadrcity says

        Mar 14, 2014 at 1:13 am

        Your sounding like a member of the Alex Jones Brigade

    • veggiedog says

      Mar 14, 2014 at 9:24 am

      Well it is one of 2 things.

      1. Crash

      2. Hijacking

      We will see

    • gravenimage says

      Mar 16, 2014 at 3:33 am

      “Brian C. Hoff” wrote:

      There is than (sic) picture I saw today of than (sic) muslim woman with tear (sic) in her eyes from worrying about someone she love (sic).
      ………………………..

      As “DefenderofIslam” well knows, his vicious coreligionists murder their fellow Muslims all the time.

      The worst thing is that even the victims will seldom come out and explicitly condemn Jihad. And how can they? That would mean rejecting Islam.

      This may or may not prove to be Jihad terrorism—although it is looking less and less plausible that this could have been simple equipment failure—but citing a grieving Muslim woman in no way rules this out.

      Islam itself offers an out—it holds that any pious Muslims killed in a Jihad attack go straight to paradise, so their Jihad killer actually did them a favor. *Ugh*.

  8. epistemology says

    Mar 13, 2014 at 5:27 pm

    Why am I not surprised? The Uighurs are a violent tribe in North-Western China who keep attacking the ethnic Han Chinese. In Munich they once attacked a group of Chinese tourists and the Chinese government issued a warning against travelling to Munich.

    Although the CNN specialists keep telling us, it was no terrorist attack, I’m pretty much convinced it was one. We know our Uighurs. BTW the name sounds like a pig breed to me, but no hard feelings.

    • Rob Crawford says

      Mar 14, 2014 at 9:46 am

      Pigs forgive you. They’re an easy-going lot.

    • doreva says

      Mar 14, 2014 at 11:39 am

      Uighur sounds like the squealing sound a pig makes.

  9. Wellington says

    Mar 13, 2014 at 5:31 pm

    The larger point, which of course the talking heads worldwide deliberately or ignorantly continue not to mention, is that when one puts aside mechanical or pilot error for the loss of this plane, there is, percentage wise, only one other realistic possibility——Islamic terrorism. I submit that this speaks volumes about Islam, not that most of the rest of the world is listening——–but it should be by now. Oh yes, it should be by now.

    • eib says

      Mar 13, 2014 at 5:33 pm

      What an advantage to us, that Muslims teach us of their brutality and how to despise it!

  10. Transmaster says

    Mar 13, 2014 at 7:47 pm

    Well it is looking more and more like terrorism. It seems the data telemetry system was shut down roughly 10 minutes before the radar transponder was, this shut down is systematic and indicates a manual shut down of the systems. Farther more the engine management telemetry with pings overhead satellites one every hours with engine data continued to operate for some time after the plane vanished off of radar. The Pentagon is not saying much but they are moving the USS Kidd DDG-100 into the eastern Indian ocean to search. I get the impression the Navy known more then they are letting on.

  11. Lynn says

    Mar 13, 2014 at 7:54 pm

    Hard to believe that plane didn’t set down on solid ground. It’s already being repainted and readied for it final flight. People are dispatched world wide on a daily bases. Nobody wants to think these poor souls were merely disposed of; we’ll pray they won’t be ‘wasted’ , rather to surface as barter for imprisoned peers.

    • Bezelel says

      Mar 13, 2014 at 9:48 pm

      @Lynn, The fate of the passengers seems to have taken a backseat, I’m sure they’re not forgotten but… In a Hijack scenario they are already up the creek…but in this case it could mean there is still hope and extreme anxiety.

  12. j_not_a says

    Mar 13, 2014 at 11:06 pm

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2578146/Young-blonde-says-missing-Malaysia-Airlines-pilot-invited-friend-ride-cockpit-entire-flight-2011.html

    “cockpit casanovas” pilots of missing malaysia airliner

    Two iranians boarded who switched to stolen passports on connecting flights with the help of a travel agent known only by the name of a Mr. “Ali”. One of the two muslim pilots, had a sophisticated flight simulator at his home. Both the pilots, in 2011, had let two women keep them company in the cockpit for the entire duration of a flight smoking cigarettes the entire time (possibly drinking alcohol) according to two the women involved.

    Latest reports from experts are saying the plane may be at the bottom of the Indian Ocean

    Speculation on my part – could this be a “9.11” type undertaking gone wrong – an embarrasing failure on the part of the terrorists?hence no claiming of responsibility? So many unanswered questions.

    • fatimasadrcity says

      Mar 14, 2014 at 1:24 am

      I am still very suspicious of the 2 Iranians that did the old passport switch-a-roo…but why would Shia’s target a plane full of mostly Chinese nationals?

      Could be also be a Bojinka styled test run hence the silence….just don’t know what to think

  13. fatimasadrcity says

    Mar 14, 2014 at 1:07 am

    The Xinjiang members of the so called Religion of Peace was the first thing that popped into my female head (worth 1/2 of a mans brain by default of course)

    But do I don’t think they are sophisticated enough to pull off a stunt like this

    • gravenimage says

      Mar 16, 2014 at 6:56 pm

      What’s the story behind your username, “fatimasadrcity”?

  14. Paleologos says

    Mar 14, 2014 at 1:39 am

    Why are muslims, and yeah, I mean all muslims, ever allowed on commercial flights, ever?

    Why are we so f**king stupid?

    The only flights muslims should be allowed on board are these Hirohito Airways budget flights:

    http://iranpoliticsclub.net/history/monarchy/images/Emperor%20Hirohito%20the%20War%20Criminal.jpg

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypLuXx6SKgU

    R/

    Paleologos

    • Mr. Squat says

      Mar 14, 2014 at 2:46 pm

      Why are muslims, and yeah, I mean all muslims, ever allowed on commercial flights, ever?

      —————————

      Malaysian Airline is a muslim airline. They can be on their own airlines.

  15. Brian C. Hoff says

    Mar 14, 2014 at 3:26 am

    Hetre is than video that prove america air crash investater are bias in they work.
    Here is the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ig9LE0Vp1YM.

    • veggiedog says

      Mar 14, 2014 at 9:26 am

      Brian would love to see this as a crash. I just want to know the truth.

  16. the Aton says

    Mar 14, 2014 at 5:07 am

    .
    It was clear by the end of day two that this was foul play of some kind. Mechanical failures do not explain the disabling of the transponder and ACARS, with no wreckage below that point.

    The aircraft must therefore have flown on, and so the question then becomes “where did it go to”?

    But if the aircraft flew on and landed, then where could it have gone to, so that nobody has seen it? A remote atoll? North Korea?

    .

    Actually, an Uigher hijack can make sense of all of this. Lets say that an Uigher had gained control of the B777 and was flying towards Beijing, in order to crash into the city center. The Chinese authorities saw this, and chose to shoot it down – but dare not tell anyone that they had done so, especially having so man Chinese nationals onboard.

    This may also explain why the Chinese are not getting apoplectic about Malaysian incompetence. The last thing China would want to do, in this scenario, is to create even more waves.

    Aton

    • Brian C. Hoff says

      Mar 14, 2014 at 12:06 pm

      They arenot sure the plane they pick up on military rador is that missing airliner the blip is still unknow flying objector. It might have crash in the Gulf of Thailand for we know. Stop reading too spy novel and watching too many Jame Bound moives. When space radio telescope have the same problen of massive object in space bending radia waves which are nothing more than light waves.

    • Mr. Squat says

      Mar 14, 2014 at 2:49 pm

      The Chinese authorities saw this, and chose to shoot it down – but dare not tell anyone that they had done so, especially having so man Chinese nationals onboard.

      ====================

      Possible. But shoot it down so early, over Vietnamese airspace?!

  17. Elliott says

    Mar 14, 2014 at 7:36 am

    Brian C. Hoff, says “Radio signal from the black box do not travel well thought lots of water.”
    Brian, I strongly suggest you research ‘Aircraft “Black Boxes” ‘.
    As there is a MUCH greater chance of an aircraft crashing into the sea, these devices are especially designed to work in water. The whole purpose of the signal is “TO LOCATE THE AIRCRAFT”, be it on dry land or under many fathoms of water.

    • Brian C. Hoff says

      Mar 14, 2014 at 11:48 am

      Not it is in deep ocean water. Part of the Indian Sea are over 4 miles deep plus there are layer of sea water that relect or bend radio waves with make it very hard to locate the back box on the ocean botton. Why is anti sudmarine warfare is very hard due to the layer in the sea water.

      • Brian C. Hoff says

        Mar 14, 2014 at 12:31 pm

        The ocean water also bend light waves too which is why the deep ocean water are dark as sunlight doesnot reach the deep ocean water.

  18. Hibernicus says

    Mar 14, 2014 at 10:39 am

    If you assume a standard fuel load out of Kuala Lumpur, factor in the last known heading, adjust for increased burn rate incurred when operating “low and slow” to avoid radar, and then perform the math you will have to entertain the possibility that the plane reached Pakistani air space……….

    My hypothesis is that the plane is on the ground, has already been re-painted and is being prepared for one final flight. The passengers? There are no non-combatants in the game of jihad – they are either dead or as good as dead.

    Pakistan possesses nukes. It is not difficult to identify and track a ballistic delivery system launch, yet a commercial jet used as a delivery system is an entirely different scenario.

    • Brian C. Hoff says

      Mar 14, 2014 at 12:13 pm

      You are reading too many spy novel written by ex cia agents. First this plane isnot design as than bomber that can carry multh nuclear bombs. It will only carry one. The Pakistan military or government is that supid.

      • Hibernicus says

        Mar 14, 2014 at 1:14 pm

        Mr. Hoff,

        I would ask that you reflect a moment on the five word sentence you submitted as part of your reply to my post : “It will only carry one.” One is all it takes.

        Your reference to the government and military of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan leads me to the conclusion that you view these institutions as stable, modern, accountable entities who act in the best interests of the citizenry. You fail to mention the ISI, or the myriad factions within the numerous ministries, agencies, directorates, etc. throughout the four federal provinces. It is a fact that the west has staunch friends and allies within these institutions; it is also true that there exist determined and motivated enemies to us within them as well. Understand that not only is it possible that one group can act without the knowledge of the others, it is – for many of these groups – the preferred modus operandi. Again, one is all it takes.

        As for “reading too many spy novels”, my professional life provides more than adequate stimulation which mitigates the necessity (or attraction) of living vicariously through the pages of fiction.

      • Angemon says

        Mar 14, 2014 at 4:24 pm

        Brian Scoff posted:

        “First this plane isnot design as than bomber that can carry multh nuclear bombs. It will only carry one”

        How does it make it any better? If Hibernicus’s “last flight” theory is right (i take it he meant a suicide attack), the plane it’s not meant to drop bombs, so it only being able to carry one doesn’t matter since its purpose is not to fly and drop bombs.

        How do you know how many nuclear bombs that airplane can/can’t carry? Are you a nuclear expert? An aviation professional? An avid Tom Clancy reader? What makes you such an expert on the subject?

  19. Doreva says

    Mar 14, 2014 at 11:33 am

    just to comment on the lie that goes around the “left” in my neck of the woods, that is, as illustrated on a bumper sticker that allegest terrorism is caused by poverty…goes something like this…: the sticker says something like “stop terrorism” but has the word terrorism crossed out and replaced with “poverty”, implying of course that, silly silly us, we mistakenly think that the problem is “terrorism” when in fact, it’s “poverty”, cause by us wicked, rich, spoiled, imperialistic (white) westerners, in particular north americans, but not to exclude europeans either, of course…those poor impoverished people, like the Uigher guy who has a PHD from britain (oh that my spoiled, rich, “white” sons and daughters from “the west” could afford to go to university in Britain and have the time and money to afford a Phd.) and then be a lecturer at a university in Turkey, far from home in central china, but remember, the poor guy is in “poverty” that’s why he had to go get a phd in England, then work at a university in Turkey (of course, if your a “white” phd of American or Canadian or English descent and not a muslim, then your a “rich” phd, wrong kind, so keep silent!)…oh yes, people “in poverty” are able to afford to travel half way around the globe for a privileged position as a phd candidate…not like the “rich” young people who live in western Canada for example, of european ancestry and “christian” of course, who can’t even afford to get a phd in their own home place, never mind travel to another country to get one, oh, yes, and have to go to work instead, well, can’t go on welfare like “poor” refugees who flee the “oppression” of sharia law, only to insist on imposing it in their “new country”…it’s just plain crazy…of course a guy who is “flight trained”, has a Phd from Britain, and works at a university in Turkey, is “in poverty”…awwww, you see, if he DID hijack a plane, it’s because it’s “our” fault…i think that “the west” has “battered wife syndrome”, you know, where she apologizes for provoking her violent husband after he beats her up…or worse, do the PC “left” have “stockholm syndrome”…that is, those hijackers, kidnappers, jihadists, et al, are really just nice guys (impoverished, of course) you just have to get to know them, is all!

    • voegelinian says

      Mar 14, 2014 at 8:11 pm

      Very good comment, thanks.

    • gravenimage says

      Mar 16, 2014 at 3:52 am

      Doreva wrote:

      i think that “the west” has “battered wife syndrome”, you know, where she apologizes for provoking her violent husband after he beats her up…
      ………………………….

      That’s *exactly* what I thought after 9/11, Doreva, when so many pundits were wringing their hands and wailing, “why do they hate us?”.

  20. Mr. Squat says

    Mar 14, 2014 at 4:04 pm

    Something doesn’t make sense about the plane turning west and flying over the Indian Ocean: to do that it would have to re-enter Malay or Thai airspace. Air defense radar of these countries would have surely picked up such a huge aircraft flying so high!

  21. j_not_a says

    Mar 14, 2014 at 6:08 pm

    http://ca.news.yahoo.com/malaysian-plane-disappearance-still-unsolved-6-days-sea-222207157.html

    Headline :Theories of piracy or pilot suicide gain more credence as search for missing plane expands

    Looking more likely all the time terrorism is involved…..

    uh oh where have we heard this before:

    Describing one of the pilots (Fariq Abdul Hamid) as a good, “religious” person:

    Fariq was a “good boy, a good Muslim, humble and quiet,” said Ahmad Sarafi Ali Asrah, the head of a mosque near Fariq’s two-story home in a middle-class neighborhood on the outskirts of Kuala Lumpur.

    The more “religious” the muslim, the more likely to blow sh&t up!

    http://bigstory.ap.org/article/missing-jet-pilots-had-firm-community-family-ties

  22. David says

    Mar 14, 2014 at 7:06 pm

    If the pilot and co-pilot were Muslim they both could be carrying out what it says in the Koran to kill infidels.

  23. Kepha says

    Mar 15, 2014 at 12:57 am

    I’m still witholding judgment until more information is released.

    Maybe this Uighur had something to do with the plane’s disappearance, maybe not. But I wonder why he’d target a plane from a Muslim country.

    As for Iranians and stolen passports, my first guess, as a former US consular officer, is that we have two patrons of the large market in fraudulent and stolen documents in Southeast Asia who most likely were trying to get from a bad place to a better place by fair means or foul. For all I know, the odds that they were Mortad and fleeing are as good as the odd that they were terrorists up to mischief or even ordinary Shi’ite Muslims with some kind of gripe with the Mullah-ocracy.

    Further, this same SE Asian market in fraudulent and stolen documents also serviced large numbers of people from the Fuzhou area of SE China, where Muslims are a miniscule minority, back when I was working in Bangkok. The local Chinese press was full of ads for travel agents and other fixers who claimed to be able to help clients emigrate to Western countries–and some were doubtlessly channels in the illegal immigration business.

    @Cranky White Woman:

    I hear ya. I’m a cranky old man, and my family has bilingualism in it–but English and Chinese in my generation rather than English and Spanish. But I think of myself as an American patriot, and am proud of the diplomatic service I gave to my country. As for the Puerto Ricans, I can only say that a good many of them, from what I saw of their island, are white themselves; I had PR colleagues in the State Department; and, when I was getting certified as an ESOL teacher, once of my classmates was a PR and very proud of his US military service which he had just finished. I understand they have more people who vote for Statehood than for independence down there, but still not enough to challenge the status quo.

  24. Mazo says

    Mar 15, 2014 at 5:54 pm

    The Uyghur passwnger in question was part of the delegation of Chinese artists, and a Communist party member.

    http://www.gpb.org/news/2014/03/15/the-passengers-on-malaysia-airlines-flight-370

    “Also among the passengers: a group of two dozen Chinese painters and calligraphers returning home after an exhibition in Malaysia dedicated to the “Chinese Dream.” They included well-known calligrapher Zhang Jinquan, 72, and Maimaitijiang Abula, a 35-year-old artist and ethnic Uighur.

    NPR’s Anthony Kuhn reported that Abula’s paintings were about Kashgar, his hometown. Anthony spoke to one of Abula’s friends who told him that the artist’s main interest, in Anthony’s words, “is capturing the colors and the textures of his Central Asian homeland on canvas.” Abula, his friend said, didn’t drink or smoke, was a Communist Party member but hadn’t completely abandoned his Islamic faith.”

    Its the Malaysian authorities who are investigating him just because of his ethnicity. There is no proof he was involved in the hijack.

    http://www.todayonline.com/world/asia/cops-search-mh370-crews-homes-probe-uighur-passenger

    “Harian Metro quoted an anonymous source as saying that police were interested in the 35-year-old passenger because of his background.

    “The passenger is not necessarily involved in terrorism, or sabotage or hijack,” the source told Harian Metro.

    “It is because of his Uighur background that authorities have taken a keen interest in him,” the source said.”

    • Kepha says

      Mar 16, 2014 at 4:10 pm

      Now I suspect this Uyghur is a red herring.

    • voegelinian says

      Mar 16, 2014 at 4:20 pm

      “…one of Abula’s friends who told him that the artist’s main interest, in Anthony’s words, “is capturing the colors and the textures of his Central Asian homeland on canvas.” Abula, his friend said, didn’t drink or smoke, was a Communist Party member but hadn’t completely abandoned his Islamic faith.”

      Yes, it’s impossible for a Muslim to be painting art and to become a “Communist” and yet still be planning and/or perpetrating a jihad attack. Really, with idiots like this (Mazo and Kepha), people die.

  25. Arunkumar says

    Mar 17, 2014 at 6:47 am

    IT IS JEHAD: So many Chinese (153) and @ 20 American co’s men at a time both countries are hurt. Chance to get revenge

  26. uyghur says

    Mar 21, 2014 at 9:52 am

    How do you get your information? Do you even check your sources before publishing it?
    The fact is that this professor has the same name with the uyghur artist on missing malaysian plane, there were news about this uyghur artist on chinese news websites way before your news and he was proved not related to any terrorist activity.

    And now this poor other uyghur professor that happened to have a same name has to be blamed in front of the whole world? He is not on the plane, he is in turkey. He has nothing to do with this event!!!!!! what is wrong with your ethics??? why dont you check your sources, why dont you do further research, before putting Uyghur Muslims name on such negative news? Do you even understand how harsh conditions that Uyghurs face in china???? please, what is wrong with your ethics??????

    I dont know if this professor sued you guys. But if this person happend to be me. I will sue your ass very bad.

    This is shame on your news site. This is a shame!!!!!

  27. Malakh Adonai says

    Mar 25, 2014 at 6:26 am

    Ecclesiates 5:2 , Ephesians 6:8, Luke 8:17-18

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