“We do not suggest that these contacts are to be blamed and have no evidence to suggest that they were improper, but rather view them as an important part of the story of Tamerlan’s decline.” That doesn’t make any sense. The FBI visits are “an important part of the story of Tamerlan’s decline,” but they’re not to be “blamed” and were not “improper.” If they were not improper and are not to be blamed, why did they give the poor dear so much “paranoia and distress” that he thought the only way to relieve it would be to murder some Infidels at the Boston Marathon?
This defense tactic is a craven attempt to exonerate Dzhokhar Tsarnaev of all responsibility for the Boston Marathon jihad bombings. It also has the side effect, whether intended or not, of distancing the act from its root causes in the Islamic jihad ideology. The defense attorneys are trying to exploit the ridiculous Boston Globe farrago that asserted that the “Tsarnaev brothers appear have been motivated less by Islamist ideology and more by their own personal failings and inner demons.” And then this poor haunted soul got a visit from the FBI — and that was it! Time to bomb the Marathon!
In reality, Tamerlan Tsarnaev had vowed to die for Islam. His brother said that he carried out the Boston jihad attack because he wanted to defend Islam. There is abundant evidence that before the Boston Marathon jihad attack, Tamerlan had become a devout Muslim — but forget about all that. It was all because the FBI came a-calling.
“Tsarnaev defense: FBI visits may have triggered Boston bombing plot,” from WMUR.com, March 28:
BOSTON —Tamerlan Tsarnaev was the instigator and mastermind behind the Boston Marathon bombings and stress from FBI visits may have been a trigger for the attacks, letters from the defense team for Dzhokhar Tsarnaev suggest.
The claims are made in a Feb. 28 defense counsel letter requesting all records and documentation about the FBI’s contact with Tamerlan Tsarnaev before April 15, 2013.
“We seek this information based on our belief that these contacts were among the precipitating events for Tamerlan’s actions during the week of April 15, 2013, and thus material to the defense case in mitigation,” the letter states.
According to attorneys, Tamerlan Tsarnaev felt pressure after the FBI asked him to be an informant reporting back on the Chechen and Muslim community.
“We further have reason to believe that Tamerlan misinterpreted the visits and discussions with the FBI as pressure and that they amounted to a stressor that increased his paranoia and distress,” the letter reads.
“We do not suggest that these contacts are to be blamed and have no evidence to suggest that they were improper, but rather view them as an important part of the story of Tamerlan’s decline,” the letter continues.
The FBI denies the family’s claims.
Attorneys for Dzhokhar Tsarnaev also claim his brother’s alleged role in a triple slaying in Waltham played a role in the younger brother’s involvement in the marathon bombing plot.
” … Tamerlan’s having committed a gruesome triple murder — and having included a ‘close friend’ among the victims — would powerfully support the inference that Dzhokhar experienced his older brother as an all-powerful force who could not be ignored or disobeyed,” according to attorneys.
Tamerlan Tsarnaev was never charged in the Waltham crime.
Always On Watch says
Gah!
If people (dhimmis) are going to think this way, there is no hope of reasoning with them.
Let’s try another context…”Judge, the reason that I ran the red light is that seeing a police car triggered me to run that red light.”
john spielman says
with a normal person if one gets a visit from police/FBI, he/she would be extra careful NOT to violate the law. But with these demon possessed muslims , just the opposite reaction occurs. Just another sign that Islam is Satanic, and Mohammed their false prophet was a demon possessed mass murderer, thief liar misogynist and pedophile.
Always On Watch says
The key words being “a normal person.”
Salah says
Muhammad’s mental condition was a matter of concern since his childhood. His wet nurse thought he was demon possessed.
Later on, he said to his wife: “When in seclusion, I hear someone calling and saying, O Muhammad, O Muhammad”.. and I fear that it is one of the djinns (demons)!!!
http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2011/10/muhammad-and-satan_24.html
mortimer says
Seeing the police, they had increased adrenaline, increased rage, increased self-righteousness, increased faith in Islam, increased desire to commit murder, increased hatred of America.
Yup, the police are responsible for the Boston Marathon Bombings.
jr says
with a defense like that, you know hes gulity
veggiedog says
Oh, we know he is guilty.
Joe Murphy says
>> [The terror] was all because the FBI came a-calling.
I don’t think he hopes to get off with that defense. Rather, he’s getting publicity for those notions and making a strike for later Islamists. He’s carrying out information warfare, propaganda: The Islamists are trying to blame Islamic terror on our defending ourselves against Islamic terror. In doing so they are hoping that we will stop defending ourselves.
We have to get ready for all that mount of crap. They will be suckers for that kind of thing in Western Europe. I hope and expect Americans will be a little bit smarter.
veggiedog says
And American lawyers…. They work the wrong way. Yes, i know all deserve a lawyer, but let ‘s not vilify our US anymore on this issue where we are the victims.
Always On Watch says
Overall, who is winning the propaganda war?
I live in a constant state of frustration because of all the dhimmitude.
Jay Boo says
Don’t get discouraged even some leftists in the MSM have begun to show signs dhimmitude fatigue.
Just keep hammering the message about Islam’s indefensible ideology until they are hoisted up and nailed by their own petards.
Always On Watch says
John,
I’m no quitter. Please see what I did in my classroom a few days ago. I showed Fitna — with followup information.
I was stunned by something and posted to that effect: I was amazed that so few parents, quite informed about most current events of all types, were unaware of the beheading of Drummer Lee Rigby on the streets of London on May 22, 2013!
I realize that most teachers cannot use a lesson plan as outlined above. I work with groups of homeschoolers and have a lot of latitude without putting my job in jeopardy.
Always On Watch says
Erratum: I should have addressed my reply to Jay Boo.
Isabella says
Typical Muslim behaviour. It is never their fault. Hey FBI it is your fault that the Boston bombing occurred, get it?
Jay Boo says
Ref to
—“We do not suggest that these contacts are to be blamed and have no evidence —to suggest that they were improper, but rather view them as an important part —of the story of Tamerlan’s decline.”
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DISGUSTING
Was Tamerlan a VICTIM of mysterious outside forces beyond his control.
Muslims don’t need help playing the victim. That is why Muhammad conjured up Islam
eib says
I’m sure that Tamerlan was “a man of wealth and taste.”
Jay Boo says
A trial for Dzhokhar in November
Why wait so long????
Is another soft focus photo prison edition from the rag Rolling stone due out in October.
The attack on Lee Rigby happened after the Boston marathon and his murderers have already been convicted.
The US criminal system:
Showed-up by Islam appeasing Britain
sheik yer'mami says
That’s it! I’m going on jihad because the IRS been harassing me. Bloody hell, why didn’t I think of that earlier?
mortimer says
A ‘devout Muslim’ is a jihadist or he supports jihad financially or materially.
duh_swami says
I can see where being under the constant watch of the FBI could create ‘diminished capacity’…The Dan White defense. ‘Twinkies made me do it’…
You don’t suppose this terrorist had been eating Twinkies? Maybe Tam should claim that Twinkies are responsible for his behavior.. Or maybe the Quran does the same thing…diminishes capacity, or in other words creates a psychotic episode. Hmm, at least Twinkies taste good, the Quran is really bitter.
Mo says
The sad part is… it may have some influence.
After all, liberals are the ones always demanding “trigger warnings”, coddling prisoners and claiming everything else is the cause of people’s behavior, except for their own free-will and choices.
Peter says
The only important part about the FBI visits is that the FBI failed yet again to connect the dots despite the Russians having warned them about Tamerlan’s jihadist motivations and inclinations.
Federal Bureau of Incompetence, bravo! 3 dead, hundreds wounded. Keep up your politically correct standard of excellence.
eib says
How about the stress of Islam?
Have mercy on the Joker, why don’t you?
Islam is profane.
By their fruits you shall judge them.
Follow the antichrist and that’s what you become– the chief object lesson of the Tsarnaev attack.
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
The defense attorneys are trying to exploit the ridiculous Boston Globe farrago that asserted that the “Tsarnaev brothers appear have been motivated less by Islamist ideology and more by their own personal failings and inner demons.”
There is a big and dangerous fictive reality built around Islam. Never mind the aggressive beliefs stated unambiguously in its scriptures, never mind its history, never mind its contemporary assertions… instead let’s speculate about the motives of the two murderers, much richer ground for nurturing the misunderstanding and misperception that this was a big mistake, one in which the Tsarnaevs were as much victim and perp.
That way the myth of one-of-the-world’s-great-religions and one-of-the-three-
Abrahamic-faiths and tiny-minority-hijacked-religion-of-peace.
The Boston Globe is a worthless rag, but alas its not at all exceptional in its ability to misrepresent.
veggiedog says
I wonder if the attorneys are some Progressive Jewish lawyers, this is such a common tactic used by those that are anti-semitic. We shall see how this plays out but I suspect this man will not get off easy and there will of course be outrage.
Walter Sieruk says
Evil is always looking for an excuse.
... says
Stress from reading stupid shit might trigger a violent response towards tsarnaev defense.
Clearsighted says
Beyond doubt, two of the greatest concepts upon which our legal system in the United States is based are the right to a fair trial and the requirement that the government be required to prove its case against you beyond a reasonable doubt (no matter how guilty you may be.)
It is sad to see, therefore, how many commenters misunderstand the role of defense counsel in a criminal proceeding in the United States (until they are themselves charged with a crime). It is NOT the job of the defense attorney to roll over and play dead because he believes or knows that his client is guilty. It is NOT his job to help the government meet its burden to prove the case against his client beyond a reasonable doubt. It IS the defense attorney’s job to make it AS DIFFICULT AS POSSIBLE FOR HIS CLIENT TO BE CONVICTED.
The reason for this is simple. This country is founded on the principle that it is better to let 99 guilty people go free than to imprison 1 innocent person. You may not like that, but you would like it a lot more than imprisoning 99 innocent people just to make sure that 1 guilty one doesn’t get away.
Over 500 years ago, a famous British jurist once remarked: “Hard cases make bad law.” As a Bostonian, I can tell you this is a very hard case. But, if we were to change the fundamental principles upon which our justice system is based just because we rightfully despise the Tsarnaev brothers and the jihadist belief system that drove them, we would be accomplishing much of what the jihadis are seeking to accomplish, namely, to tear down our “miserable house” with “our hands.”
Let’s not be so quick to sacrifice the greatest legal system in the history of mankind.
Boston Strong!
Realist says
>> It IS the defense attorney’s job to make it AS DIFFICULT AS POSSIBLE FOR HIS CLIENT TO BE CONVICTED.
Doesn’t an attorney also have a moral obligation not to represent clients that he thinks or knows are guilty?
Isn’t the ultimate aim of the justice system to see that justice is served? Or should it be treated as a mind game, each side willing to try any shenanigan to beat the opposing side, ethics be damned?
Of course, the attorney might be court-appointed and in such a case, I am not sure if the attorney can excuse himself.
Jacksonl03 says
How can it be right in our justice system for an attorney to recuse himself because he has prejudged the defendant as guilty? Only a fair trial can determine guilt or innocence.
It’s up to the jury and/or the judge to decide based on evidence. I have confidence a conviction will be attained regardless.
veggiedog says
Attorneys do not discrimanate by guily, the do not ask. They want fame and notoriety. I foe one would not ever use an attorney who is trying to get a terrorist off, no gray area for me.
Clearsighted says
An attorney does not have a moral obligation to refuse to represent a client he believes is guilty any more than he has a moral obligation to agree to represent a client he believes is guilty.
Mirren10 says
”. It IS the defense attorney’s job to make it AS DIFFICULT AS POSSIBLE FOR HIS CLIENT TO BE CONVICTED”
What you say is unfortunately true; and for me it simply means that the Western system of justice has lost it’s way.
Justice, and that includes the defence, should be concerned with finding the truth, not seeking to do anything to avoid convicting the guilty.
Clearsighted says
The issue isn’t whether the system is designed to find the truth. The issue is how best to go about that search for truth while maintaining the principle of making it difficult for the government to deprive people of their liberty or their lives. As I have said, we strive to ensure that everyone gets a fair trial and that nobody is convicted without proof beyond a reasonable doubt of their guilt.
Let me give you an example. Why, in our search for truth, don’t we allow confessions extracted by torture? After all, some tortured confessions would undoubtedly be true and a guilty person exposed. But, in the much bigger picture, if we allowed the government to use torture to extract confessions, it’s also likely that some of them would be false and an innocent person convicted. So, sometimes limits must be imposed on the search for truth in order that we don’t sacrifice the rights of the many just to convict the guilty few.
Mirren10 says
”Let me give you an example. Why, in our search for truth, don’t we allow confessions extracted by torture? After all, some tortured confessions would undoubtedly be true and a guilty person exposed. But, in the much bigger picture, if we allowed the government to use torture to extract confessions, it’s also likely that some of them would be false and an innocent person convicted. So, sometimes limits must be imposed on the search for truth in order that we don’t sacrifice the rights of the many just to convict the guilty few”
This is just a nonsensical red herring.
Neither I, or anybody else who disagreed with your defence of defence lawyers, said anything about torture being used as a method of extracting **truth**.
The whole point about torture is that in fact it is **not**designed to extract truth, since most people, unless they are incredibly courageous, will say whatever the torturers want them to say, in order to avoid any more agony.
My point was, that defence lawyers are prepared to put forward **anything** they think will get their client **off**, they are not interested in the truth, or justice.
You may think that admirable; I do not.
Isabella says
To clearsighted who wrote:
“This country is founded on the principle that it is better to let 99 guilty people go free than to imprison 1 innocent person. You may not like that, but you would like it a lot more than imprisoning 99 innocent people just to make sure that 1 guilty one doesn’t get away. ”
Now, about half of those 99 guilty live in your neighborhood? What would you say when now the situation affects you personally?
Bezelel says
One might think a visit from the FBI would discourage someone from acting out. That is someone normal, like a bankrobber?
Paul G. says
Aha!! So now we know. All of the media and liberal pushes for more and more gun control, being in the faces of everyone on a daily basis, are the real reason behind the shootings of Giffords, in the movie theater, Sandy Hook, etc…
ralph3796 says
STRESS my A$$; these Stupid Muslim’s live to kill and die so they can go to allah and collect those 72 virgins. This CULT has Brain Washed Everyone of the Ishmaelite’s into think allah will see them in paradise(HELL).
PJG says
We hear time and time again from Muslims variations on the theme of “Don’t resist or provoke us, as it will be worse for you.” Journalists get taken in by this all the time, but I’m not sure I like hearing it come from lawyers.
carlos says
mk ultra victims its real, there are many others in society, ready to be actived.
Lawrence Kelley III says
It wasn’t until I watched the YouTube video titled, “Why are We Afraid? The Secret 1400 year History of Islam,” by Bill Warner of http://www.politicalislam.com/.;
that I was truly aware of the entire murderous and mayhem history of Islam against Christianity in the Middle East, North Africa & Europe, especially Spain.
The Muslims committed unspeakable atrocities unknown to other civilizations.
And ended up killing over 270 million people, most of whom were Jews, Christians, and other religious/ethnic groups.
As Warner says: “Christianity was but a bloody stump of what it was before the Islamic battles,”…. over 500, compared to 12 Crusade battles confined to the western Mediterranean coast. Muslims were sacking religious caravans also.
Its clear that the intent of Muslims planted into the US have every intention of using their same tactics to overthrow civilizations in their history. The exact same legal and economic strategies were used in all their past conquests, as seen in the TY video by Warner.
shabeer says
The Boston Bombings LIE:
First of all, always keep in mind the following verses, and the many others like them, when you deal with the evil zionists and their evil slaves, the neo-cons, who have even hijacked the Bible to serve their evil lies and hate:
Revelation 2:9, 3:9 “(Israel) the Synagogue of Satan”
Isaiah 14:12 “Lucifer the son of the (evil) star!”
It seems that the Israeli Mossad terrorists of the Boston Bombings are now almost clearly identified by the face and person. 3 female Israeli agents included. See new video in Proof #2 in the following table). All Praise and Glory and Thanks are due to Allah Almighty, Alone! New videos and sections added to this table about the Boston Bombings Israeli LIE.
Again, please read my DISCLAIMER above about this not generalizing all Jews. See also the Righteous Jews in the Glorious Quran [1] [2]. Also see the Boston unanswered questions, below.
Also, the following Youtube Channels have tons of videos with ample pictures and videos and evidence about the Boston Bombings LIE. You can also to a search for “Boston” in these Channels:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4lcz7xZbug
2 FBI Agents Who Arrested D. Tsarnaev Killed. The two FBI Agents died from falling off a helicopter! Also, on the Woolwich Beheading proven to be another lie with detailed video and picture analysis. The following is their picture. Also watch the Youtube video above.
(click on image to enlarge)
(The two FBI Agents died from falling off a helicopter!) [1]
http://www.youtube.com/user/DAHBOO77/videos?view=0
http://www.youtube.com/user/WeStayEternal?feature=watch
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheAlexJonesChannel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-fDFZF9h8Y (clear proof that the backpack was photoshopped)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gN023zH7bFo (much closer look at Dzhokhar Tsarnaev inside the hospital shows fabricated lies)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c_pCwkRrNQ (one of http://www.infowars.com great videos that thoroughly exposes the Boston lie).
http://www.youtube.com/user/ummubasma (amazing detailed videos on the Boston lie by a Muslim Sister)
For ample more research, Youtube: Boston Bombing. Or go on Youtube.com and type “Boston Bombing” and search.
Also Youtube: 9/11 is a lie. Or go to Youtube.com, and type “9/11 is a lie” and search.
Proof #1:
New video and pictures that clearly prove that Federal Agents planted the bombs at the Boston Marathon Bombing zionist terrorist attack. In this video you’ll see:
Younger brother, Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, left the scene WITH his backpack on [1]:
The FBI claimed that younger brother, Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, was shot in the head and in the neck, and was bleeding to death before he hid inside the boat. Yet, the picture of him exiting the boat shows a very healthy man!! [2] [3]
Serious Condition???
Serious condition and yet, he was able to get himself up and
walk himself out of the boat??!!
Shooting himself in the mouth on the boat, yet
have complete strength to get himself up, and
walk himself out of the boat??!!
Click here to watch the video.
One of the exploded bags that had a bomb in it had a UNIQUE white square on top of it. This square still remained there even after the blast. This unique white square was found on one of the backpacks of ONE OF THE FEDERAL AGENTS who was carrying the backpack [4] [5]:
And after the explosion, the very same federal agent was pictured running WITHOUT the backpack on his body! [6]
Americans, wake up!!! Israel, the “Synagogue of Satan” (Revelations 2:9, 3:9), and the “Star of Satan” (Isaiah 14:12), is running wild inside your lands!! The zionists have pulled another 9/11 on you! Stop this “Muslim Terrorists” stupid card. It doesn’t work.
Again, watch the new video for more details.
Also visit: The hijacked Bible.
Proof #2:
Here is a new video with three additional strong evidences for the Boston LIE:
1- The Israeli FBI took a college professor’s mobile phone, and deleted all of the pictures he took. You’ll see the professor describing what the images were in the video.
2- Clear PICTURES (plural) of three Israeli female agents placed one trash bag and two personal bags that latter exploded!
3- The Boston police removed the tree where the blast happened. The tree would’ve shown which DIRECTION THE EXPLOSION CAME FROM!
(Click on any of the images to enlarge)
Again, watch the new video for more details. And also this Youtube Channel.
Proof #3:
The Boston Bombings were another 9/11! They were an inside government job! See proofs of the older brother getting captured ALIVE and taken away. He wasn’t killed and found dead as they claimed. The two brothers were framed. They used to work for the FBI, and they got framed:
The Tsarnaev brothers, Tamerlan (older) and Dzhokhar (younger) Tsarnaev used to work for the FBI, and they were framed.
Look, as a Muslim I 100% condemn all terrorist acts!! The Glorious Quran also is crystal clear about this:
“On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person – unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land – it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people. Then although there came to them Our apostles with clear signs, yet, even after that, many of them continued to commit excesses in the land. (The Noble Quran, 5:32)”
Muslims are commanded to be the better than everyone, and to be the BEST example:
“…..Help ye one another in righteousness and piety, but help ye not one another in sin and rancour: fear God: for God is strict in punishment. (The Noble Quran, 5:2)”
“Ye are the best of peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in God. If only the People of the Book had faith, it were best for them: among them are some who have faith, but most of them are perverted transgressors. (The Noble Quran, 3:110)”
Please visit: Islamic Justice.
Also visit: http://www.youtube.com/DAHBOO77.
veggiedog says
What are you smoking?
gravenimage says
shabeer wrote:
The Boston Bombings LIE:
First of all, always keep in mind the following verses, and the many others like them, when you deal with the evil zionists and their evil slaves, the neo-cons…
………………………………..
Of course. All Jihad was actually perpetrated by the perfidious Joooooooooooz just to “make Islam look bad”…
All that stuff in the Qur’an and Hadith about waging violent Jihad? The Jooooooooz added that.
Just ask any pious Muslim: “‘Jihad’? What’s that? The word sounds Hebrew…” sarc/off
More:
Again, please read my DISCLAIMER above about this not generalizing all Jews. See also the Righteous Jews in the Glorious Quran
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Please note that the only “righteous Jews” in the Qur’an *converted to Islam*. So—the only good Jews are *actually Muslims*.
More:
Also, on the Woolwich Beheading proven to be another lie…
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Never mind that there were a dozen eyewitnesses, that the murder was filmed, and that the butchers have bragged about the slaying. Must be those darn ol’ Jews again…sarc/off
More:
Stop this “Muslim Terrorists” stupid card. It doesn’t work.
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Translation: please stop noticing that Muslims wage Jihad terror! This is just making it harder for us to wage Jihad! How terribly inconvenient…
More:
Look, as a Muslim I 100% condemn all terrorist acts!! The Glorious Quran also is crystal clear about this:
“On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person – unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land – it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people. Then although there came to them Our apostles with clear signs, yet, even after that, many of them continued to commit excesses in the land. (The Noble Quran, 5:32)”
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shabeer has quoted Qur’an 5:32 before. What he won’t tell you is that this was *not* an Islamic acknowledgment of the sanctity of life, but rather just another threat directed at the Jews. Read the next verse, Qur’an 5:33.
Is shabeer trying to convince us that *no* Muslims wage violent Jihad, and that all acts of Jihad terror—22,710 just since 9/11—were all committed by the Jews and “Neo-Cons”?
More:
Muslims are commanded to be the better than everyone, and to be the BEST example
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No, they aren’t. They are commanded to *consider* themselves better than everyone, and to exploit and abuse unbelievers accordingly—a *very* different matter.
More:
“Ye are the best of peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in God. If only the People of the Book had faith, it were best for them: among them are some who have faith, but most of them are perverted transgressors.
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What is it that pious Muslims consider “right”? Among these horrors are raping nine-year-old girls, beating and “Honor Killing” their wives, abusing and oppressing Infidels, and —incidentally—*waging violent Jihad against the filthy Kuffar*.
veggiedog says
It’s always the Jews, always has been the Jews. Read yesterday anti-semitic acts doubled in the US in 2013. It’s those damn Jews.
gravenimage says
Tsarnaev defense: Stress from FBI visits may have triggered Boston Marathon jihad mass murder
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This is just the latest twist on the grotesque assertion that what causes violent Jihad is any attempt at all on the part of Infidels to defend against it.
veggiedog says
Any Lawyer using this is a traitor.