The school has only a small number of Muslims, but that doesn’t matter: the principle is constantly reinforced that wherever Islamic law and custom conflicts with Western law and custom, it is the latter that must give way. No one in today’s thoroughly cowed and terrified Britain would dream of saying to parents of Muslim students in this school that their children are free not to eat the pork or the non-halal meat, but that both were still going to be offered. That would be “Islamophobic.”
This is the dhimmi Britain that banned Pamela Geller and me from entering the country: a country in steep decline that is every day reinforcing the proposition that when it comes to Muslims and Islam, the proper attitude of non-Muslims in Britain is solicitude and subservience.
“Parents fury as pork sausages are banned from the school menu and replaced with halal meat,” by Ben Endley for the Daily Mail, March 7 (thanks to Steve):
Parents have condemned a school’s decision to ban all pork products from the menu and replace other meats with halal versions.
Pupils aged between three and 11 at Brinsworth Manor Infant and Junior Schools in Rotherham – which Ofsted identifies as having only a small number of pupils from minority ethnic groups – will no longer be able to enjoy sausages, bacon or ham.
Parents at both schools, which share a site, were told of the decision in a letter from Rotherham Council’s principal catering officer Ron Parry, who wrote that there had been ‘minor adjustments’ to the lunch menu.
The move comes as Britain’s vet John Blackwell called for Muslims and Jews to use more ‘acceptable’ methods of killing.
And parents have branded the decision ‘a scandal’ as only twenty per cent of the 600 pupils are Muslim and the decision to provide halal meat was up to individual schools in the town.
A mother with an 11-year-old girl at the school, who asked not to be named for fear of being branded racist, said: ‘At home I pay more for organic and free range food. I am a Christian but I don’t do it because of that, it’s more for the respect of how animals are killed.
‘The way the animals are slaughtered for halal meat is a religious killing and I don’t feel it should be in schools.
‘My daughter has been anxious about the change as she has concerns about if it is humane killing. I believe in animal welfare rights and standards of meat production that halal does not follow.
‘I feel as strongly against eating meat that had been blessed in the name of a god I don’t believe in and the animal killed in a way I do not agree with, as Muslims do against eating non-halal meat.
‘The children love pork and it’s a scandal to take these meats off the menu to please, what I consider to be, a low number of children who require halal meat.
‘The majority of the children are now having school meals that are made for the minority. The halal children have always had the vegetarian and fish options. ‘
Another mum of a son at the school said she believed that halal slaughtering was cruel.
She added : ‘My son is a really fussy eater and pork is his favourite meat. He’ll get bored having chicken all the time.’
A mother of two said parents who do not know much about halal meat had not been given enough information or time to understand it.
She said : ‘Normally the school is good at consulting parents but with this we have just been told what is going to happen.
‘I’d want to know more about halal meat before I’d be happy for my children to eat it. I’ve been told it is not as well refrigerated.
‘It would have been good to have know what Muslim parents thought and if they were unhappy with the vegetarian option on the menu.’
Halal slaughter is performed by a Muslim butcher in the name of Allah in a way to avoid severing the spinal cord
The school governors at both schools are understood to have agreed to the menu change to ensure the meals are more inclusive.
A spokesman for Rotherham Borough Council confirmed that school meals at both Brinsworth Manor schools have changed and now include halal and non-halal meat on the menu….
Peter Buckley says
Meanwhile, here is the Religion of Peace’s latest contribution to the country’s education:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/463675/Islamic-boys-school-bars-women-from-applying-for-job-as-science-teacher
WatchDawg says
Actually, this is.
http://www.zaytunacollege.org/
gravenimage says
Here’s “WatchDawg” laughably flogging Zaytuna “College” again.
This “institution” is holed up the corner of a Baptist Seminary in Berkeley a half block from People’s Park.
Fourteen years after it’s founding, it has thirty students, and a teaching staff short of ten.
Just pathetic.
veggiedog says
Heaven forbid of one were to request Kashrut.
Wellington says
Drip, drip, drip.
ploome says
if the Brits objected, they would
– abandon this school en mass-home school their children
-storm the school
-demand the school administrators get fired
-set up a private school
RG says
Give me bacon, ham, pork sausage and pulled pork, or give me death!!! Talk about the wussification of Western culture!!!! Great Britain has sold it’s soul to the devil!!!! What a damnable shame!!!!!
Hey everybody–wanna be absolutely certain that no muzzie has ever rubbed his slimy fingers all over your food–EAT PORK!!!!! Yeah, I said that!!!!!
duh_swami says
will no longer be able to enjoy sausages, bacon or ham.
A blessing in disguise. Those should be adult only foods, and I’m using the word food loosely. Only adults are capable of deciding if they want to risk their health by eating, drinking and smoking harmful substances Forcing this on children is child abuse. Replacing them with halal meat, is even worse.
RG says
To ‘duh swami’ – Oh come on! Gimme a break! “Forcing this on children…”–ARE YOU SERIOUS OR DELIRIOUS??? Nobody is forcing anything on anybody! Except that now, like it or not, these children will be FORCED to eat halal (all hell) meat or they can go hungry! TALK ABOUT CHILD ABUSE!!!!!
duh_swami says
Lighten up Bruce…You’re way to heavy.
RG says
I think not! As you may recall–it’s you who somehow managed to liken eating pork products to “child abuse”. That correlation never so much as entered my poor overworked brain. You sound way too much like NYC’s former Mayor Bloomberg! I say it’s you that should lighten up, and let the people choose for themselves what they will, and will not, do or eat.
I repeat, “Forcing this on children is child abuse”–those are your words, not mine. So who needs to “lighten up” Brucey boy????
richard Sherman says
Soon the school will require all students to follow the sociopath MUHAMMAD’s example and PERSONALLY decapitate the first 900 unarmed Jews they find…
RG says
Nobody’s laughing, ‘WD’! You and your ilk would be the first ones to try and pull that off! Talk about hate-mongers!!!!
RG says
To Robert – What is going on with your new website? You need to place the “you must be logged in to comment” info in a more strategic place! Time and again my comments have just been erased! That’s very frustrating, to say the least! More than once I’ve just given up on trying to post a comment . Let’s see what happens this time….
Steffen Larsen says
Nothing new there, it has already happened in my nephew’s school with 20% Muslim here in Denmark. It was recently and proudly announced that pork now is being phased out.
In such up-beat expressions that I doubt anyone dare raise a voice against it.
Tradewinds says
E-MAIL:
brinsworth-manor.junior@rotherham.gov.uk
http://bmaj.rotherham.sch.uk/contact.html
Clara says
Redbridge, London primary schools…
Most schools that participate in the school meals contract are not served meals that contain either pork or beef; lamb is the primary red meat that is served. However, the school meals contract provider does serve meals containing beef at the request of one of our schools.
There are 54 schools that participate in the school meals contract consisting of infant, junior, primary and special schools. There are no secondary schools that participate in the school meals’ contract.
Charli Main says
You don´t see Britain´s Indian and Sikh communities frothing at the mouth about beef products in the shops and schools and demanding that the British stop eating the sacred cow.
But then, neither are they trying to force their religion, culture and laws on everyone else and promising to rape and murder all those that refuse to dress and behave like them.
Jay Boo says
Muslims refuse to eat pork and yet they eagerly swallow toxic Islam that rots their souls.
Tradewinds says
Ironic, isn’t it? Islam is the most poisonous thing going along with Fascism and Nazism. It should be abolished like Fascism and Nazism. Islam – a plague on the world.
veggiedog says
Ironic, stupidity, insanity, pick your superlative.
never miss a day says
In the eyes of ‘religious’ men God’s laws have always taken precedence over His grace. This has led to distortions and additions which have allowed those to build their mini kingdoms and subject their followers to matters which they themselves feel important and which subject the followers to their views and authority.
There is nothing new about this, it happened from the very beginning although it could be said that the early church had more reasons to justify these errors than we do today because they only had the Old Testament scriptures as reference and it is slightly more difficult to preach God’s grace from them, though not impossible.
By Acts Chapter 15 we see it was necessary for the Council of Elders in Jerusalem to write the following to Gentile believers to sort out the many misinterpretations of some of the ‘religious’ who were, regardless of their shortcomings and natural tendencies, out their spreading the Gospel or a version of it. God bless them.
This is what the Elders wrote to the Gentile believers as a result:
“To the Gentile believers in Antioch, Syria and Cilicia;
Greetings,
We have heard that some went out from us without our authorization and disturbed you, troubling your minds by what they said. So we all agreed to choose some men and send them to you with our dear friends Barnabas and Paul – men who have risked their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. Therefore we are sending Judas and Silas to confirm by word of mouth what we are writing.
It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us not to burden you with anything beyond the following requirements: You are to abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality. You will do well to avoid these things. Farewell.”
Acts 15:23-30
Pretty interesting really!
As innocuous and unimportant as it may seem to so many people including those professing Christianity, force feeding Christians and Christian societies ‘Halal’ meat is an attack on the very basis of the original teachings of the early church and therefore to Kingdom of God. It should be resisted at all cost. Even going without food if there is no available alternative!
Islamisdeath says
Precisely as a Christian I am a forbidden to eat halal meat. But when I say that everyone attacks me.even those on supposedly the same side all you see all of a sudden are diatribes against “organized religion” muslims are protected from this but Christians are not.
Ronald Relly says
Damn! Muslim always win. They can force other to follow their halal food, idiot hijab, build new big mosque around the city. They can force sharia finance system. They can even have 4 wives lives like gigolo. And Englishmen only stand still looks like idiot
cheekturner says
Dear WatchDawg, on the subject of halal meat you might find it interesting that I work in a meat factory and my “son in law” is an halal slaughterman. He’s a nice guy but stupid, not because he is foolish but because, like you, he is a Muslime, and that makes him (and you) stupid. He recites the required Arabic words but has no idea what he is saying, so therefore it is meaningless. But then again even if he did understand what he was saying it would be meaningless anyway because he is dedicating the slaughter to allah, who being impotent , makes it’s meaning zero..
As an aside all the carcases pass through my hands at which point I make the Sign of the Cross over each one and pray (In English) that Our Lord (and yours too) Jesus will accept my prayer that the carcases be cleansed of the defilement of sacrifice to a false non-existent god. Hopefuly halal then becomes haram!
Now go feast on raisins.
BlueRaven says
ct – are you nuts? You are working in an Islamic slaughter house – where the animals are killed in a most ghastly manner that a man could think of for his-her own consumption, then you bless that satanic product with the cross and hoping it will cure the psychological burden which are to be packed and sold in the hyper-markets for the Christians.
I am disgusted. We need to stop this kind of barbaric satanic practices. Our Politicians does not have the courge they ought to do anything about it.
cheekturner says
BR I do not work in an Islamic slaughterhouse. I work in a welsh meat factory that has halal slaughtermen. This is all part of the creeping Islamisation of Britain whereby the Supermarkets hide the fact that their meat is halal (but not labeled as such), and to comply with shariah and to ensure continued patronage by the Muslime community they insist on such, and the meat producer for the sake of the supermarket patronage accept this dhimmitude.
Interestingly though, and not “kosher” halal, all the animals are stunned before their throats are slit. Doesn’t sound very “halal” to me
islamisdeath says
Beautiful!
islamisdeath says
The above reply is in the wrong place I am having troubkle with posting comments today. It was meant as a reply to ole watchdog not as a reply here.
I meant to reply here that you are the first other person who seems aware of this very important verse. My family is becoming vegetarian in preparation of having “halal” forced on us.
Rojm says
In the end Islam will fail, the internet will be its undoing. People all over the world can see its faults by looking up information on the internet or reading the world news on the internet. People who protest for Islamic state religion policies such as above are prolonging the m collapse and destruction of state Islam. If they want Islam to live a bit longer, they should be trying to create a personal Islam that does not harm other people or intrude on their lives.
BlueRaven says
Watchdog has just as much right to post his/her comments as any one of us, providing RS doesn’t have any posting prohibition on them.
My problem with Watchdog’s crappy comments is that they are worthless piece of bull crap just like his religion – negative knowledge value. His comments irritate me as much as a three years old kid, who has just learn to speak a word or two, repeating something new just learnt five secs earlier. I am happy to listen to a three years old repeating – but an adult or claiming to be an adult posting useless and irrelevant information is unthinkable.
My logic tells me that some Muslims don’t pass that three years age threshold. There are no lesson to be learnt in Madrases.
jewdog says
The parents may be cowed, but their kids are eager to pig out.
RG says
To ‘jewdog’ – Ha ha! Touché! Touché!
Wellington says
Watchdog has accomplished his purpose on this thread and that is to derail it. While I am of the conviction that trolls sometimes need to be answered, I am also of the opinion that there comes a time with a particular troll where you just henceforth ignore the bastard. I’m not there yet with Watchdog but I’m close to there. I welcome thoughts about this from others.
Jan says
Some trolls should be answered, but I agree with you that ‘watchdawg’isn’t one of them. He doesn’t even attempt to produce a coherent argument about anything, and he’s just a boring pain in the arse.
Wellington says
Hi, Jan. Hope you’re doing well.
What strikes me most about Muslim trolls is their almost complete deficiency in argument. They gloat, they strut upon the stage briefly, they crudely caricaturize and condemn those opposed to Islam’s supremacist designs, they engage excessively in tu quoque reasoning, they intimidate, etc., but they almost never present a coherent, respectable argument in favor of their cause. Contrast this with other religious folks, be they Christian, Jewish, Buddhist, et al. who actually engage in reasoned, articulate and (what is probably most important) non-threatening explanations and defenses of their religion of choice.
There’s so much wrong with Islam and one of the things wrong with it is the way so many of its believers try to convince non-believers that Islam is the true faith, replete with mockery, gloating, threats of violence and a contempt for liberty. Not even a close call here with any other religion on earth. Islam is the odd man out among religions and this will function as one of the chief reasons why it will eventually be looked upon as one of the greatest frauds and errors in all of man’s history. Not there yet but I’m fairly certain mankind will get there by mid-century.
voegelinian says
Mostly I’ve noticed the same thing Wellington is referring to, with regard to Muslim Islamopologists. Occasionally, though, there is a certain type of Muslim apologist who comports himself in a “Saladinesque” way — affecting an elaborate show of calmness, moderation, civility, and an intelligence that on the edges seems to have a few loose seams of pedantic affectation. The fun with these is to persevere in a polite but firm way with a certain line of questions that inevitably scratch this polished surface and uncover the “Inner Fanatic” within every Muslim. (One doesn’t always have to be entirely civil; the courageous Wafa Sultan by standing her ground in a rather provocative way managed to elicit the darker side of that favorite Moderate Muslim Zuhdi Jasser on a TV round-table a few years ago…)
EYESOPEN says
Definitely ignore the troll. Let it rant on and on; and if no one answers, the thread is not derailed. I thought we had learned this lesson by now.
veggiedog says
I am now there, in the future i am done feeding him.
Rojm says
Islam will collapse very soon. The internet will destroy it. Nothing that denies ones rights will last in the spotlight of the world. People who complain about broadcasting the sins of Islam are prolonging its dying. Islam as a state religion that tries to impose its ideology and customs on non-muslims and muslims alike with intimidation and violence will fail in the end. The spotlight is on.
Defcon 4 says
@Rojm
I wonder if your position is sincere? Because it’s absolutely ludicrous in light of events going on in the world today. Aside from the USSR (and ONLY because of the intervention of the military and the actions of Gorbachev) when has any totalitarian state (incl. islam0fascist states) ever spontaneously dissolved?
Rojm says
Yes, I am sincere. There is always hope that enough people will wise up with all the information the internet allows. It is hope that I hope comes true. Websites like this help that dream come true.
Transmaster says
I don’t know how it is in the UK but State there are a large number of Muslims who know better the to eat anything that is Halal, instead they go to a Kosher meat market instead for good reasons. In answer to the question can roadkill be Halal the answer is yes if there if there is a Halal abattoir in the area. I wonder if the eagerness for a Muslim to die a martyr is because of the literately rotten food.
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/savannah-tn/TU1QVV9H167NBKKP0
Ann Barnhardt is a cattle commodities broker, has more about “Halal.”
NEVER buy meat that is marked as “Halal.”
I am in the cattle business, and believe me when I tell you that Halal
kill plants are CONSTANTLY being cited and shut down by the USDA for
horrific infractions. Most of these plants are in Michigan and upstate
New York .
One of the things that halal kill plants are notorious for is putting
already-dead animals in the human consumption line. They will pick up
a dead cow off of a farm or ranch and instead of putting it in their
rendering tank where the resulting “tankage” is worth pennies on the
dollar as pet food or industrial products, they will shackle the dead
animal on the normal kill line and process it as human food which is
the highest-dollar product.
Since Islam teaches dishonesty (taqiyyah) and no regard for one’s
neighbor, this kind of sickening behavior is standard.
Halal plants are also notorious for general citations for filth and
uncleanliness. I have toured normal cattle slaughter plants, and guys,
you could eat off of the floor. Everything is white and men walk
around with water hoses and steam guns constantly keeping everything
in a state of spotlessness.
Halal plants are filthy. A lot of Halal meat is also labeled as “organic.”
Again, don’t be fooled into thinking that “halal” means “better.” It
isn’t. I would never, ever knowingly eat halal meat purely from a food
safety perspective.
cheekturner says
As per my post above I work in a meat factory where everything is very clean. However it is not an halal slaughterhouse per se but in order to keep it’s supermarket custom it employs halal slaughtermen. Whilst every carcase is actually killed by a Muslime reciting his arabic nonsense. I would like you to know that every animal is stunned immediately prior to killing and as such is in conflict with stict halal procedure. There have been concerns regarding the slaughter of organic animals which, apparently, differ from halal slaughter. But hey if their precepts are being cicumvented so much the better!
No Fear says
http://www.halalchoices.com.au
tpellow says
“Halal: A Taste of Terror”
by Enza Ferreri.
(Aug 2013).
http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/enza-ferreri/halal-a-taste-of-terror/
duh_swami says
Since I am a vegan, I don’t think highly of the meat industry as a whole. But halal style killing for food is evil. Eating it is the same as eating the sins of a sin eater. Eating halal is eating the sins and evil nature of Allah. If’ you are what you eat’, means anything at all, those who eat dead animals are in a lot of trouble. Eating halal is even worse because of the evil depravity attached to it.
Aardvark says
” If ’you are what you eat’, means anything at all, those who eat dead animals are in a lot of trouble.”
Nope. If it means anything then it means that cows, who eat grass , are grass. So eating beef is a Vegan option. After all, it’s just grass!
Defcon 4 says
That last comment was funny.
Foolster says
Watchdawg said:
“Here is the TRUTH from a non Muslim historian.
http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/30596”
Hahaha. How do you know this Ianus is a non-muslim historian? I think your confused, and thought this was by Daniel Pipes. (Or you knew this and thought people were stupid enough to be confused).
Also you don’t seem to understand sarcasm and that this person was actually making the point opposite of the one you are making. You might want to read the post again….
You’re always good for a laugh watchdawg.
Transmaster says
This myth, which was made popular in Europe during the Crusades,about spraeding of islam by sword, is totally baseless.
This is hilarious, roll on the ground laugh my ass off hilarious. Let me ask you something Watchdawg have you read the numerous accounts of the fall of Constantinople when the forces of Saladin put thousands to the sword. In fact the Islamic genocide did not slow down in the region until they met up with a people even more ruthless then they where, the hordes of Genghis Khan who killed 100’s of thousands at a time. The Muslim armies that went out to face the Khan’s hordes where annihilated to the last man.
Brian C. Hoff says
Saladin never forcely convert anyone to Islam he was than horonable warrier which alots of christian knight and ruler have alots of respect for. It include King Ricard the Ironhearth.
Defcon 4 says
Damn you’re dumb, but islam will do that to people.
RG says
Ahemmm! Did you actually say that your “granddaddy” was a southern farmer? Wow! You actually know what it means to be born and raised in the Bible Belt and you are defending and preaching islam???? How come I didn’t know that you’re nothing but a KKKer.
BTW, only a southerner would spell it ‘dawg’. Bless yo lit’l o heart!
Hey ‘WatchDawg’ go fry ice! Better yet take a hike–to Yemen or Qatar or Somalia or Sudan. You sure don’t deserve to be called an American!!!!! LOSER!!!!
Iain Campbell says
Wow, just wow! What next? Segregation by sex? Can we please ban Halal in this country? If we must eat meat, can we all at least agree to abide by a set of standards that are at least cruelty free.
dumbledoresarmy says
The good part about this is that **the nonMuslim parents got angry**. They complained. They went to the paper and publicised their fury.
I hope they *stay* angry. But they have to *focus* the anger into group action.
If they’re not already affiliated with Gavin Boby’s “Law and Freedom Foundation”, then maybe they’ll find it and join; and then they can start *pushing back* in an organised and concerted fashion.
http://lawandfreedomfoundation.org/
If they’re Christians, they can get on board with the Barnabas Fund’s “Operation Nehemiah” project…*and* its consumer freedom-of-choice campaign, *demanding* that NON-halal must always be an option and that halal must always be labelled as such.
Here’s a 2012 report that gives an idea of what they’ve been aiming for.
http://www.barnabasfund.org/AU/Act/Campaign/Operation-Nehemiah/MPs-Voting-Decision/
At that link you will find some useful suggestions for those who wish to lobby their political representatives re. halal meat (and other halal products). The basic points would apply just as well in other non-Muslim countries.
PS: visiting Gavin Boby’s site just now, I saw that his organisation has just published a comprehensive report on the Muslim pedophile pimping/ rape/ “grooming” gangs in the UK.
http://lawandfreedomfoundation.org/2014/03/04/comprehensive-report-on-the-grooming-gangs/
It’s a massive document. The link is on the page you’ll find at the link I just gave. I downloaded it and saved a copy.
There are many organisations and persons – and not only in the UK! – to which copies of that Report, or case study, should be sent, with covering letters.
Salah says
PORK or PIG?
Geert Wilders:
“This man (an 80 year old pedophile) is behaving like a PIG, just like the barbarous prophet Muhammad, who married the 6 year old girl Aisha.”
http://crossmuslims.blogspot.ca/2010/06/pigs-of-arabia-les-cochons-de-larabie.html
Job says
Everyone should read this report about Muslim rape and pimping gangs in the UK. it is astonishing:
http://lawandfreedomfoundation.org/2014/03/04/comprehensive-report-on-the-grooming-gangs/#comments
veggiedog says
If we ignore them they will go.
Transmaster says
By the way Watchdawg you are the best troll I have seen in a long time. Is this your Jihad? I don’t see your condemnation of terrorism, even the killing of innocent Muslims.
Remember the rest of you, a troll only exists as long as you feed it.
Mirren10 says
”Remember the rest of you, a troll only exists as long as you feed it.”
So stop feeding it.
somehistory says
So, are the children who don’t want to eat things sacrificed to filthy idols allowed to take their lunch from home, or are they required to eat what the school serves?
If they are not allowed to take lunches from home, then they should be taken out and home-schooled. Not knowing if there is a problem for this in the UK, if a group of parents large enough to make the news try it, perhaps they can get away with home-schooling, or make the schools decide to allow lunches from home, or lunches including pork or other foods not sacrificed to filthy idols will continue to be served by school staff.
And I am one who strongly agrees that those who come here, muslim, non-muslim, or whatever one may lay claim to, only to try to make trouble of one kind or another, to get under the skin of posters, to spew nonsense…should be ignored. Whether this makes them go away or not is not the main thing. They are not here to be enlightened nor informed, only to cause disruption and get their kicks.
As far as using logic with any muslims who spout their nonsense here for those reasons, I recall a recent article quoting an imam (or cleric) who said there is no logic in islam. No Logic! No reasoning with those who avoid logic. It’s pearls before swine to try to convince those so entrenched that they feel it necessary to insult all who disagree.
And as far as being a *redneck* for not believing the islamic lie…being a redneck is an honor…as opposed to making necks run red for a false god and spewing hate and forcing others to bow down to that idol and his disgusting, most infamous worshiper. The days for and of this kind of thing are numbered.
gravenimage says
somehistory wrote:
And I am one who strongly agrees that those who come here, muslim, non-muslim, or whatever one may lay claim to, only to try to make trouble of one kind or another, to get under the skin of posters, to spew nonsense…should be ignored.
…………………………
somehistory, I agree that there is no sense in *directly engaging* with a troll.
But I believe it is sometimes necessary to address a troll’s falsehoods, lest some uninformed readers take their bs seriously.
Helen Dove says
The British brought on themselves. They should never have allowed Muslims into their country.
Defcon 4 says
It could have more to do w/corrupt politicians being paid off by islam0nazis than the will of the people.
Eric Vaughn Snow says
Let’s consider what the Bible says on this subject. Should Bible believers eat pork? What does the Bible say? Deuteronomy 14:3, 7-8 says: “You shall not eat any destestable thing. . . . Nevertheless, you are not to eat of these among those which chew the cud, among those that divide the hoof in two . . . they are unclean for you. And the pig, because it divides the hoof but does not chew the cud, it is unclean for you.” Although it’s often argued that the death and resurrection of Jesus changed this for Christians, that’s not as obvious when the case is examined more closely. Long after that event occurred, Peter said that he had never eaten anything clean or common (Acts 10:14; 11:8). The vision of unclean animals that he was told to eat was really about not treating gentiles as unclean, not about what food is fit for human consumption in God’s sight. (See Acts 11:9-10; 10:17-19,28)
voegelinian says
“The vision of unclean animals that he was told to eat was really about not treating gentiles as unclean, not about what food is fit for human consumption in God’s sight. (See Acts 11:9-10; 10:17-19,28)”
Your citations do not demonstrate your artificial distinction.
Banana Bender says
Most of these rants are SO tiresome. I feel that it would be best to ignore WatchDawg and let the more sensible ones (such as the much admired DDA)continue the debate in a much more rational and useful way.
Wellington says
Three options where trolls are concerned: 1) you can engage them directly; 2) you can write about them without directly addressing them; 3) you can ignore them.
Reasonable minds can differ about these options and when to invoke them. I would add here that I think it a mistake to ignore trolls completely and an equal mistake to always answer them but, speaking for myself, I will no longer employ option #1 where “Watchdog” is concerned, only options #2&3—–and option #2 respecting “Watchdog” won’t be lasting much longer for me I would reckon.
RG says
Let’s see if this comment is posted. If yes, thank you, Robert, for fixing this.
RG says
The above comment by ‘RG’ did not post until AFTER I returned to the the top of this page and again logged in all of my personal info. PLEASE give us some warning about that.
SUGGESTION: Warning–your comments will not be posted unless you have logged in, and your userID (name) appears in the blue font, next to “Logged in as”, located below the “Post a Comment” line.
Yeah, I know, it sounds confusing to me too–NOW DO YOU KNOW WHY I GET SO FRUSTRATED WHEN MY COMMENTS ARE NOT POSTED???
BTW, I thought I had a reply to some of the other bloggers here, now I ‘m not sure I care anymore!!!
RG says
Well, Robert, my friend, you really need to correct this software here. I really am tired of having my comments erased. THERE IS NOTHING AT THE “POST COMMENT” BUTTON TO WARN YOUR BLOGGERS THAT THEY ABSOLUTELY MUST “LOG IN” AGAIN IF THEY HAVE SHUT THEIR COMPUTERS FOR THE NIGHT. THAT’S FRUSTRATING, TO SAY THE LEAST.
I mean, I follow the directions: Click on the “Reply” button, enter my name and userID, ENTER MY COMMENT , click “Post Comment” and voila–NOTHING!! The webpage returns WITHOUT POSTING MY COMMENT! I mean, what’s up with that????
Ice Star says
I would send my child lunch made from home, ham and cheese sandwiches for sure
DaR says
They say “you are what you eat. ”
I have held for a time now that indeed, you are what you eat and that “halal” food is gradually spiritually poisoning its consumants. Look at thirty forty years ago when such nonsense would have been stamped out and laughed; compared to now. And then look at how society has declined. Our children are now more feral than ever; our education system more weak-willed than ever – and did you know that the Houses of Parliament has specifically banned halal meat from its menus?
Go out into the rural areas, away from the metropolises of London, Birmingham, Manchester, Leicester and Bradford, where ‘halal’ has not infiltrated and you will see that people are basically not as feral or ignorant or malnourished.