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Peaceful Muslim Brotherhood protesters in Cairo streets

Apr 7, 2014 6:36 pm By Robert Spencer

PeacefulMBProtesters

One (among many others, I am sure) was carrying the black flag of jihad:

Black Flag of Jihad

Mainstream media coverage vs. reality.

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  1. tpellow says

    Apr 7, 2014 at 7:04 pm

    Meanwhile, staff at the BBC in London, and globally, are giving their active political support to three al-Jazeera staff who are on charges in Egypt of supporting the Muslim Brotherhood.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-26918932

  2. Transmaster says

    Apr 7, 2014 at 8:02 pm

    I have a rule when is comes to religion and that is respect for other ways of believing. I feel, Christianity in all of it shades, Hinduism, Jaina Dharma, all of the branches of Buddhism, Shinto, Confucianism, Taoism, The believe systems of Native Americans, etc. They all have a profound view of the world. I have no respect for Islam, it is a hateful, evil thing when practiced as the Qur’an is written.

  3. Davegreybeard says

    Apr 7, 2014 at 8:18 pm

    Hey, I’ll second that Welligton!

    Artiewhitefox is tedious, as in put you to sleep tedious and how fast can I get away from this creep, tedious.

    Got nuthin against Christians, hey, some of my best friends here are Christians. I’ll probably get in trouble for this but, Champ comes to mind.

    Always has a sunny disposition, except when she’s mad at you and then she’ll tell you quite plainly what the problem is. And she’ll quote scripture occasionally, but she doesn’t ram it down your throat or go and on about it forever, like Artie here.

    I guess it’s the sanctimonious arrogance that seems to drip from Artie’ s words, and the arrogance that seems to linger in the air after he has delivered his epistle.

    Yep, an impediment to progress alright, and tedious too.

    • Stephen Poole says

      Apr 7, 2014 at 8:41 pm

      … I got pads/tampons … I’ll UPS you a sixty …

      • Kalliope says

        Apr 7, 2014 at 9:14 pm

        Stephen Poole, what are you doing?

        • Jay Boo says

          Apr 8, 2014 at 10:18 am

          It is sad to see Stephen Poole so narcissistically focused that he grasps at any attention to feed his insecurities with off-color humor on this website about an ideology that commits horrendous violence while it hides behind religion.

      • dumbledoresarmy says

        Apr 9, 2014 at 10:15 pm

        Stop with the vulgarity, mate. It’s getting really, really tedious. And it’s ugly, too; especially when directed toward such a sane, intelligent and insightful poster at this forum, as “Wellington” is.

    • Wellington says

      Apr 7, 2014 at 9:09 pm

      Hi, Davegreybeard. Hope you’re doing well. I don’t mind at all Christians (like Champ, Kepha and dda) often commenting by way of indicating their Christian take on things. Such folks do it well, it’s not exclusionary and not done tediously, contra Archiewhitefox.

      BTW, we have a real jerk here commenting at JW going by the name of “Stephen Poole.” Aside from the fact that he can’t even tell the difference between criticism and goading, he likes to play games. Total asshole. Well, it’s hard to escape such people indefinitely.

      Again, hope you’re doing just fine. Take care.

      • Stephen Poole says

        Apr 7, 2014 at 9:16 pm

        … DGB just asked me to send tampons … … That 30 would do … …

        • Kalliope says

          Apr 7, 2014 at 9:24 pm

          Stephen Poole, what are you doing?
          Remember that I’m a woman when you give me your answer.

      • Champ ♥ says

        Apr 7, 2014 at 10:42 pm

        Wellington, thank you for your kind words, my friend 🙂

      • Jay Boo says

        Apr 8, 2014 at 5:20 am

        @Wellington

        There are many JW’s who understand the truly horrendous nature of Islam.
        It is sad that an occasional troll like SP will pose as sincere while their only purpose is to gain attention for themselves (what about me syndrome)

        • Champ ✿ says

          Apr 8, 2014 at 1:50 pm

          It is sad that an occasional troll like SP will pose as sincere while their only purpose is to gain attention for themselves (what about me syndrome)

          ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

          Jay, mohammedans enjoy playing these cat and mouse games …so if a person wants to be taken seriously around here, they better not present themselves as one-of-them; and SP is definitely stepping into that realm.

  4. Davegreybeard says

    Apr 7, 2014 at 9:17 pm

    More interesting, is the group of three men or so, just to the left of the gunman in the photo.

    Looks like a very determined propaganda team, out to get images to further enflame their cohorts.

    Worth noting, once again, that this War will be won or lost depending on the successful dissemination of propaganda.

    There is much work to be done.

    • Stephen Poole says

      Apr 7, 2014 at 9:19 pm

      … Correction : a thirty …

    • Stephen Poole says

      Apr 7, 2014 at 9:22 pm

      DGB : The pictures on this site do not always line up with the articles … Please keep that in Mind …

  5. jewdog says

    Apr 7, 2014 at 9:38 pm

    The huge protests in Egypt against Morsi displayed the ambivalence that many Muslims feel about their religion. On the one hand, they identify as Muslims, but also many simultaneously understand that there are problematic aspects to Islam.
    These violent protests by the true believers will help strengthen the doubts that many Muslims feel.

    • Salah says

      Apr 8, 2014 at 12:48 am

      “These violent protests by the true believers will help strengthen the doubts that many Muslims feel.”

      Thank you, jewdog.
      Finally someone on JW agrees that what happened in Egypt is bad, not only for islamic parties in general, but BAD for ISLAM itself.
      Something good is happening to the average Muslim, something bad is happening to Islam.
      By rejecting the MB, the Egyptian people has rejected an islamic party, has rejected sharia, has rejected the islamization of Egypt. THIS is HUGE.

      It may seem banal to the average American/European, but as an Egyptian myself, I know what I’m talking about: THIS IS HUGE. Let’s keep hammering Islam, let the world know the ugliness of Islam, and, most importantly, let MUSLIMS know the ugliness of their own religion.

      http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2013/07/the-end-of-muslim-brotherhood.html

      • Jay Boo says

        Apr 8, 2014 at 4:30 am

        As Salah says …
        ” let MUSLIMS know the ugliness of their own religion.”
        ===========

        Islam is Ugly, indeed

        Let the whole world bear witness to Islam’s daily disgrace that hides behind God’s name.
        When the cheapness of this vainglorious ideology comes home to roost Muslims are left with nothing but shame and soul crushing emptiness.

  6. Champ ✿ says

    Apr 7, 2014 at 11:06 pm

    “Peaceful Muslims Brotherhood protestors”

    What an oxymoron …peaceful and MoBro are contradictory terms.

  7. Salah says

    Apr 8, 2014 at 12:29 am

    To all Twitter freedom fighters…
    Please share and follow this:
    #mb_europe

  8. Charli Main says

    Apr 8, 2014 at 2:55 am

    Sorry folks, but I´m fed up with all this nonsense about “good” Muslims and “bad” Muslims.
    The Koran, Hadiths and Suras are very specific in their instructions and teachings to Muslims, which is wall to wall rape, murder, enslavement and genocide of non Muslims i.e people of all other faiths and religions.
    ” Muslims” who do not believe in and follow the instructions given to them in these books ARE NOT MUSLIMS.
    You can´t be a “kind of Muslim” a “sort of Muslim” or “half a Muslim”
    or “a peaceful Muslim”
    Muslims to be Muslims MUST actively or passively support Mohammeds teachings in the Koran. there is no neutral or middle ground.

    • Jay Boo says

      Apr 8, 2014 at 10:38 am

      @Charli Main

      Regardless, it is not even a question of ‘good’ and ‘bad’
      In all humans there is the issue of the ‘person’ and the ‘behavior’
      If we focus only on the ‘person’ then the ‘behavior’ tends to go unquestioned.
      Islam is not as powerful as it seems. It is a dying cockroach rotting from the inside out. When Bill Clinton tried to pander and obscure Islam’s role in violence it was a former Muslim who was up to the challenge to tease out the truth.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeYGC0yHeHg

      We need more than just an Us against THEM policy.
      We need to expose Islam right down to its rotted core.

    • voegelinian says

      Apr 8, 2014 at 1:21 pm

      Indeed, Charli Main. I find the “millions of Muslims are hopeful moderates” meme Salah keeps retailing here for months far, far worse — more offensive given the mountain of data about Muslims we should know by now and given the fact that the PC MC mainstream that continues to sustain the pan-Western myopia to the problem of Islam that is killing us and threatening to kill us more horrifically in the decades ahead — than the evangelism of Artiewhitefox. Yet other than Rod Serling on another thread, no Jihad Watcher seems to notice or care; meanwhile, quite a few times bristles are raised when a Christian crosses the proselytizing line here.

      • voegelinian says

        Apr 8, 2014 at 1:23 pm

        The Salah Meme dovetails with the PC MC paradigm. That by itself is monstrously worse than some commenter pasting in a paragraph now and then that sounds like John Bunyan.

        • Salah says

          Apr 8, 2014 at 3:33 pm

          “The Salah Meme dovetails with the PC MC paradigm.”

          You’re wrong. Our PC elites are whitewhashing Islam, I’m not. Islam is evil, Muslims are not.
          You keep talking about “solutions”, yet, you don’t have any. Deportation, immigration policies could help in the short term, but they are not viable solutions. Besides, you have no solutions for the western-born Muslims problem, it doesn’t take thousands to sow terror in the land, a handful of jihadists are more than enough.
          We can never win a war through “defense” strategies, we must take offensive actions, we must completely destroy Islam itself, Islam IS the real enemy.
          For the sake of our security and the security of all mankind, including Muslims, we must destroy the source of Evil: Islam.
          You won’t achieve any substantial victoriy if all you do is pushing the enemy away. It will come back to haunt our future generations. Our true victory will be achieved once this evil ideology is exposed, not only to us, but to Muslims all over the world.
          Muslims leaving islam IS the TRUE VICTORY.

        • voegelinian says

          Apr 8, 2014 at 9:23 pm

          “The Salah Meme dovetails with the PC MC paradigm.”

          You’re wrong. Our PC elites are whitewhashing Islam, I’m not. Islam is evil, Muslims are not.

          The artful distinction between Islam and its actualizers (Muslims) may seem to be un-PC MC, since the PC MC mainstream goes further in refusing to condemn Islam; but to me it’s symptomatic of the PC MC view. Another way to put it is that the ““The Salah Meme dovetails with the PC MC paradigm.”

          You’re wrong. Our PC elites are whitewhashing Islam, I’m not. Islam is evil, Muslims are not” meme is a way for those who are in the Counter-Jihad to continue to be soft on the problem; not because they want to be soft, necessarily, nor because they are not patriotic — but in order to allay their (misplaced) ethical anxiety (and perhaps also to allay their anxiety not to seem, or to be, racist).

          This tendency or reflex I note among some in the Counter-Jihad, which resembles PC MC or which seems to be milder form of PC MC, I call “asymptotic”, since a new term has to be found rather than calling them PC MC straight out (since being anti-Islam is, precisely, the gold standard of not being PC MC).

          PC MC is just that influential and pervasive in our culture, that it infects even the hearts and minds of some in the Counter-Jihad, who therefore find ways to attenuate what scares them to think outside the Box: a robust defense of their society from not just a Tiny Minority of Extremists, but from a whole People.

        • voegelinian says

          Apr 8, 2014 at 9:26 pm

          Wow, a major typo in my last comment to Salah: I mistakenly included a lot of Salah’s text that shouldn’t be in there — the bold in the following passage should NOT have been included:

          Another way to put it is that the ““The Salah Meme dovetails with the PC MC paradigm.”

          You’re wrong. Our PC elites are whitewhashing Islam, I’m not. “Islam is evil, Muslims are not” meme… [rest continues]

      • Jay Boo says

        Apr 9, 2014 at 12:53 am

        You are right
        All is hopeless
        What was I thinking?
        the problem of Islam that is killing us and threatening to kill us more horrifically in the decades ahead
        All is lost unless we paint the foreheads of Muslims with red bulls eyes.

        (Bad premise)
        My point has never been to reform Islam but to reveal it and the same goes for the so-called Salah meme
        STRAWMAN arm twisting at its finest

        • Charli Main says

          Apr 9, 2014 at 3:39 am

          Ah, yes. I get it now. I can see where I’ve gone wrong. It´s not the “Muslims” its that EVIL KORAN
          Just like it wasn´t Adolph Hitler and the Nazis that rampaged through Europe and Russia, IT WAS MIEN KAMPH
          It was all the fault of the EVIL MIEN KAMPH, the Nazis were innocent, misguided ” GOOD NAZIS”

      • gravenimage says

        Apr 9, 2014 at 6:09 pm

        Actually, I call Salah on this all the time.

        I believe he means well, and really believes what he is saying—but the idea that the Al-Sisi coup represents not just regime change from the Muslim Brotherhood, or even an ideological rejection of the MB, but a mass rejection of Islam by Egyptian Muslims that will then spread to every other Muslim in the world is the very definition, I’m afraid, of irrational exuberance.

  9. The slamist says

    Apr 8, 2014 at 6:13 am

    What’s wrong with protesting against a western dog? Spencer must be crazy when it comes to criticising Islam and muslims. What was occupy wallstreet? stupid.com

    • thomas_h says

      Apr 8, 2014 at 9:26 am

      @The slamist

      Spencer doesn’t criticiseIslam and muzzlems.
      He only says Islam that smells, but leaves it for us to decide if it is a nice smell, or an odious stench. Most of us believe it stinks like pig manure. Of course, you are right to say that this implies criticism, but we are also right to insist that anyone for whom islam smells like roses has a horribly corrupted sense of smell. And the sense of justice, humour and beauty. And of course, the common sense.

      • thomas_h says

        Apr 8, 2014 at 9:29 am

        is:
        “He only says Islam that smells..”

        should be:
        “He only says Islam smells…”

    • gravenimage says

      Apr 9, 2014 at 6:20 pm

      The “slamist” (that would be “Islamiist”) wrote:

      What’s wrong with protesting against a western dog? Spencer must be crazy when it comes to criticising Islam and muslims. What was occupy wallstreet? stupid.com
      ……………………………..

      What the “slamist” means is that no one should be allowed to criticize Islam or expose its terrible threat.

      And as brainless as “Occupy Wall Street” was, they never did anything more violent than break windows.

      Would that we could say the same of violent Muslims…

      Moreover, look at the Muslim Brotherhood’s ultimate goal—to impose bloody and oppressive Shar’ah and brutalize the Copts.

      Try again, creep…

  10. Christopher says

    Apr 8, 2014 at 11:06 am

    you can visit this hashtag for muslim brotherhood crime
    Egyptian people made this hashtag so the west can see muslim brotherhood crimes

    https://twitter.com/hashtag/mb_europe

  11. chrestopher says

    Apr 8, 2014 at 11:23 am

    repost
    i dont know if my post is posted

    this hashtag Egyptian do it to show the west the crimes of muslim brotherhood

    https://twitter.com/hashtag/mb_europe

  12. Prinz Eugen says

    Apr 9, 2014 at 10:03 am

    Moslems will continue to act out their pedophile prophet’s demands, just as Axis powers carried out their leader’s demand for conquests! This will go on until the world finally says “Enough!”
    What is needed here in the US is for the CONGRESS to put an end to khalifa Barry Sotero’s support for islamic terrorism, including the moslem brotherhood and Iran’s nuke program and bombastic boasting!

  13. gravenimage says

    Apr 9, 2014 at 5:12 pm

    Peaceful Muslim Brotherhood protesters in Cairo streets
    ……………………..

    Well, of course! What could *possibly* be more indicative of peaceful intent than raising the Black Flag of Jihad? sarc/off

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